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2002 Dodge Durango Code P1391: Intermittent Crank/Cam Sensor Loss Fix & Diagnosis

Model: Dodge Durango Fault Code: P1391 Posted: 2009-02-08 09:16

Hello! I'm seeking help with a recurring Check Engine Light issue on my 2002 Dodge Durango (5.9L 408 Mopar engine). The vehicle is showing intermittent P1391 code — 'Intermittent Loss of Crankshaft or Camshaft Position Sensor Signal'. I've replaced both the crank and cam sensors with new units, and both have been synced to zero via an OBD2 scanner. Despite this, the P1391 code returns intermittently—appearing during about 1 in every 15 starts—and the engine runs rough initially before stabilizing. Voltage readings from the sensor pigtail are stable at 5.14V with consistent grounding. No fluctuations have been observed. The issue persists even after clearing the code, which reappears over time. I'm looking for a clear diagnostic path to identify whether this is a wiring harness fault, sensor installation issue, or a problem within the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). I suspect the PCM may be 'hanging' on the error due to intermittent signal loss—similar to how computers can freeze—but I need confirmation. I'm also curious: could a misfire from ignition components (e.g., coil, distributor) or timing chain issues cause this code? The truck has original 360 distributor and flywheel. Timing is confirmed accurate. Any advice on affordable OBD2 scanners that allow real-time monitoring of crank/cam signals during symptoms would be greatly appreciated—especially since dealerships like Snap-On push high-end tools that exceed the vehicle's value. Additional note: I recently had a local electrical shop in Orlando test the sensors and wiring. They confirmed both sensors were functional and the wiring harness was intact, but reported intermittent 'loss of signal' to the PCM. Based on this, they concluded the PCM was faulty—leading me to purchase a new OEM Mopar PCM from an Orlando Dodge dealer, which was flashed with VIN data and tuned for 408 engine operation. Unfortunately, the P1391 code returned after reflash. I'm now considering further diagnostics such as distributor gear seizure or ignition advance issues. A recent $46 test ruled out coil failure. I've also learned that the Check Engine Light must be physically present in the dash cluster—otherwise, OBD2 scanners won't allow access to fuel sync adjustments. Our original unit was missing; it was replaced with a soldered LED bulb for just $2 instead of $599 at dealership. Final fix (for 408 Mopar engines): 1. Ensure the Check Engine Light is active—without it, no deeper diagnostics are possible. 2. Advance fuel timing by rotating distributor (small increments, ~1/16 inch) to +6 degrees; this improves engine stability on modified motors. 3. Modify the crankshaft position sensor: remove the rubber dust grommet and grind the hole in the sensor housing into a slot so it can be shifted toward the distributor side—ensuring physical contact with the distributor end. 4. Recheck fuel sync at +6 after modification. This solution resolved the P1391 issue for our 2002 Durango with a 408 Mopar engine. If you're doing a similar build, this may save significant time and cost.

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Comments (9)
Anonymous 2009-02-08 17:16

The intermittent loss of crank or cam sensor signals could point to a wiring harness issue. When symptoms occur, use an oscilloscope to monitor the actual crank and cam signal waveforms for out-of-range readings.

Anonymous 2009-02-08 17:34

This code may persist even after symptoms resolve because the PCM retains fault memory. To diagnose accurately, you must monitor sensor signals in real time while the engine is experiencing roughness. Can anyone recommend a budget-friendly OBD2 scanner that supports live signal monitoring? I’ve been unable to find affordable options from dealerships like Snap-On.

Anonymous 2009-02-10 15:34

Avoid aftermarket crank sensors—OEM Mopar parts are significantly more reliable. The P1391 code can also appear due to misfires or irregular timing caused by a worn timing chain, loose flywheel hub, or faulty ignition components like coils or distributor. A thorough inspection of these areas is essential.

Anonymous 2009-02-10 16:40

Thanks for the tip—I’ve already swapped in a genuine Mopar crank sensor. We’ve successfully run this setup on other trucks without P1391 issues, and the PCM was flashed specifically for the 408 engine. If I see the code during startup and sync sensors, could it reappear even after symptoms resolve? Could the PCM be 'stuck' or locked in a fault state—like a computer freeze? This is a plausible theory, especially given how sensitive modern ECUs are.

Anonymous 2009-03-10 16:42

Any updates on this issue?

Anonymous 2009-03-10 17:24

Update: I took the truck to TRS Electrical in Orlando. They confirmed both sensors and wiring harnesses were functional, but reported intermittent signal loss to the PCM—leading them to conclude the PCM was faulty. I replaced it with a new OEM Mopar PCM from an Orlando Dodge dealer and had it flashed for 408 engine use, including VIN data to prevent MIL activation. The P1391 code returned after reflash. We’re now waiting on Larry Marceado, a Viper tuner in Sanford, to inspect the truck. I’m open to any further diagnostics—especially if someone has insight into distributor gear seizure or other mechanical causes. The original 360 flywheel and distributor are still in place, and timing is confirmed accurate.

Anonymous 2009-03-11 14:47

One possibility: the distributor drive gear could be seizing inside its housing—this has been observed in a few similar cases.

Anonymous 2009-03-11 17:31

At this point, it’s very likely. I spent $46 to test and eliminate the coil as a source—still no change. Orlando Dodge won’t assist with a 408 engine; I offered to sign a waiver for DRB inspection. Their diagnostic machine should detect signal drops from either sensor—but they’re prioritizing business over service. I’d have agreed to T&M tracking if it would resolve the issue. Thanks for the input, Jeff.

Anonymous 2009-03-23 06:34

2002 Dodge Durango P1391 Solution: 1. The Check Engine Light must be physically present in the dash cluster—otherwise, OBD2 scanners won’t allow access to fuel sync adjustments. Our original unit was missing; we replaced it with a soldered LED bulb for $2 instead of $599 at dealership. 2. Advance fuel timing by rotating distributor (small increments, ~1/16 inch) to +6 degrees—this improves stability on modified engines. Note: this does not affect ignition timing but adjusts when injectors fire. 3. Modify the crankshaft position sensor: remove the rubber dust grommet and grind the hole into a slot so the sensor can be shifted toward the distributor side. The sensor should sit against the distributor end—discard the original grommet. 4. After reinstallation, verify fuel sync at +6 degrees. This fix resolved P1391 for our 2002 Durango with a 408 Mopar engine. If you're building or modifying a 408 Mopar setup, this may save significant time and cost.