Is Tesla’s Unsupervised Robotaxi Plan Failing Miserably?

It's not that the robotaxi is a bust, it's how Elmo can spin this to pump up the stock.

Yes, it is failing miserably. The concept was a two seat model y with its tires painted gold and the “autonomous taxis” on the road needed a supervisor in car. There was never a plan to succeed that was articulated by someone who wasn’t zonked on ketamine.

It was never meant to be a thriving business. Its just one of the ideas to pump the stock. He has already moved to other great things now since his new pay deal

Who needs cars at all when you can have AI data centers in space?

The ketamine riddled conman strikes again. Absolutely nobody is surprised by this cuck’s every growing list of scams

Yes.

The concept fails out the gate. Two seats for a taxi? Ideal for that family of four that needs a ride to the airport with all their luggage.

They did recently manufacture 30+ of them. Maybe more, that was all I saw in a picture. No clue if they have steering wheels or not….

Correct. It's all just theater, like the guy dancing on the neoprene suit. The whole company is CGI renderings and occasionally a mock prototype.

And Moon colonies!

And Grok running Elmo's robots as they build a moon-base - yes, just heard that from the nutbar this week! Nothing he says can be taken in good faith, it's all performative pressers or sound bites meant to drive up the value and make his cult of fanbois think he's the genius he's objectively not

~~Is~~ Tesla’s ~~Unsupervised Robotaxi~~ Plan Failing Miserably ~~?~~

F'Elon will just have one if his autonomous humanoid robots grab you and carry you to your destination. Mebbe 2 bots if you have luggage

So Elmo owns 25% of TSLA and he’s going to get SpaceX to overpay himself billions of dollars. Be surprised if there wasn’t more than a few investor lawsuits over that.

The real rollout in LA should have been Westwood not a studio backlot

Yeah the stupid custom compute modules they shitcanned had pretty renders

Yes. Of course.

Well something must be going wrong when every prototype I see on the road has a steering wheel, a driver and both of the drivers’ hands are on the wheel…

30+ mockups as far as we know.

That plan is working as intended: pump and dump!

And the one without a driver is being followed by a chase car.

Elong's talk of the robotaxi is simply a 'feel-good' stock pump. Like Optimus, robotaxi is an overhyped exercise in a salesman's glorious claims without actual product deliverables.

If anyone actually believes this is a real product, they deserve to have their money taken by Elon.

They are required to have steering wheels if they are traveling on roadways (or at least some other manual steering element).

No one is questioning Tesla's ability to build that cheap gaudy looking thing, the question is if it can actually drive safely without supervision in any meaningful capacity. All evidence thus far suggests that no, it cannot.

It's hard to believe the flimflammery of WeRobot was only 2 short years ago. Much movement, many breakings.

Ask not what the robotaxi can do you for you. Ask what you can do to pump thy stock.

Another failure in a long line of Eleanor Musk failures..

Same. No rear view window, no side view mirrors so a less safe car these people have to drive around. What could go wrong?

Yes the ones I’ve seen all have drivers behind the wheel

He turned his (crappy) Robotaxi into Highlander. There can only be ONE!

Same.

How is anything not Fraud. Like this dude can make up whatever. He’s basically Theranos lady. He never ever lives up to the promises.

No problem. Just hail 2 robotaxis!

If it actually worked Elon would have to explain why running a real taxi business wasn’t like printing money.

There just aren't that many fanboys with that much money. Something more nefarious is going on.

He owns 15%

He owns 15%

So what's the point of cybecab mass production?

More like 3, and one of them just broke down.

Anything Tesla is sub par junk.

Standby, next Musk lie loading…

So 6 vehicles, 3 robo taxis and 3 supervising Tesla employees. The future is now.

Because what he says is so stupid that no reasonable investor would believe him

Yes. Next question.

If they really do make a load of Cybercabs they'll either have to spend a fortune putting them out there, with one-to-one, at least, human oversight, and high risk of accidents, or they'll sit around in parking lots. It's clear to me that Tesla are at least a decade off meaningful autonomy; just look at the [FSD Community Tracker](https://teslafsdtracker.com/) and you'll see they're at about 99% taking c. 3 years to add each 9, and it is far from certain they'll keep improving, so that is a best case scenario!

He also thought he would licence out the whole FSD package to other manufacturers. No surprise they all said no.

Which was their defense in court. It worked.

Will a seig heil work or can you only use the app?

It looks like it has been approaching a complete failure since FSD, so robot taxis seem like nothing more than a dream. First off, they would have to give up on implementing autonomous driving solely through image processing AI; since that would mean burying everything they have built in the dark, it seems like they are just packaging it as if there are no issues to boost their stock prices.

If we’re not constantly pumping our stocks, are we even worthy of owning them? Line must go up!

Can anyone explain to me why we need autonomous taxis to begin with?

The theory is, if you could perfect the autonomous aspect for some suitably finite sum of money, then scale it all up, it would be transformative. For the sake of simplicity imagine a wealthy philanthropist developed a system that never crashed, which he gave to the world. This would make buying a car and driving it yourself more expensive than letting it drive itself as insurance would be less. By extension you wouldn't even need to buy a car at all as autonomous taxis would be super cheap, as the main expense is the human driver, no longer required, so many people, especially in cities, would just use taxis rather than buy a car, as it would be less expensive. This is the theory as I understand it.

Saved you a click: Yes.

Who would think a low margin business wouldn't be highly profitable when most of the cost isn't eliminated?

Smart Money must have a formula for the math on SpaceX valuation that include overpaying for Tesla stock somewhere down the line. If they don't then they should be quietly dumping Tesla stock.

Yes.

It's a bad design for a taxi in general. Very low ride, hard to get in and out especially for older people. Should have taken a look at London's cabs before shrinking the cybertruck into a two seater.