Musk touts California robotaxis but Tesla does nothing to get permits

Hes sitting on an explosive destruction of wealth.  Can't wait.

And the charade continues..

According to Tesla robotaxis are not autonomous. At least by California law.

considering it will tank the entire stock market, I would rather the charade continues.

Wait, he isn't even logging the current Robotaxi miles? Even Cruze was doing that? SMH

Nah let it fucking burn. Enron collapsed and civilization didn't end.

I'd love to see the it crash and burn. Finally a reality check

Tells you everything you need to know about how serious their product is.

There aren’t any robotaxis. FSD running with someone supervising is Level 2.

In my opinion, the main reason Tesla has not applied for a Robotaxi permit in California is because they know their technology, in its current state, is not good enough to get it.

It's going to be ketostrophic.

a lot of people lost their livelihood and their homes. I don't want it to be me this time.

House of ketamine and dynamite. Powerful combo.

Maybe? According to the article, they first need to get permits to "test" the vehicles, and then go for 50,000 miles with a safety driver, and then after that they can proceed to no safety driver. So do you think that Tesla is pessimistic and they won't make it successfully through the 50,000 miles of testing?

Maybe a system that’s built on a house of cards reliant on lies deserves to crumble. We can’t build a better system because people rely on this one is a brain dead take.

Yes. The fact they have not done this already proves that point

A you not care about your own self interest.

But what other reason could there be not to do it? That they just can't be bothered?

Not going to happen. He will just announce xAI powered robotaxis with robot drivers taking people to Mars and the stock will jump 20%.

You are right, this is probably true. But then I wonder what the internal memos at the company say... because their CEO is singing a very different tune. If their internal memos say "we are not ready to expand the taxi system from driver in the front seat in California using FSD, so let's not even try to get a permit to try autonomous, we are many months away" but their CEO is saying "we will be doubling every month" and "exponential growth" and "half the US population covered by the end of the year" and "the problem is regulatory, not in the system"... you would think that would be an interesting shareholder lawsuit some day.

ketamite!

*We’re paranoid about safety.* *Bare-minimum safety standards are too onerous and impede progress.* -Same idiot

These aren't even forward looking statements. He is straight up lying about current conditions to shareholders.

Nice to see *some* news outlets FINALLY calling out Tesla on blatant Headline Engineering scams

Not just deserves to crumble but *will* crumble eventually. Probably better that it happens sooner than later.

They'd need to present hard data demonstrating that the safety drivers didn't need to intervene. Yes I think they don't believe they can demonstrate that. Why else wouldn't they try?

Enron had a valuation of about 70 billion in 2000 when it collapsed, Tesla currently about 1.25 trillion. Thats not a bubble, its a nuke.

It will be a beautiful sight.

The safety of his bogus wealth is all he's paranoid about.

Why should Tesla want to get a permit? Ketamine users don’t want that, they want an Optimus chauffeur. He can clean house when he’s not driving you around. Excuse me, I meant Optimus(Supervised). /s

He was more proactive about trying to get Epstein to hook him up with child slaves than getting these permits.

The article says this information is “unreported” but that is not true as I subscribe to “Motörhead” on Substack which researches Tesla and they go on about this all the time. What is really unreported is that Wall Street Tesla analysts must know this information, bit choose to carry on with the charade in order to win business from Musk and profit from speculation in Tesla shares (as you can’t make money from helping people speculate in a bankrupt company after all).

The ceo is a grifter. A confidence man.

They don’t have any

Sell

You might be onto something there https://fortune.com/2026/02/26/tesla-robotaxis-4x-8x-worse-than-humans-at-driving-safety-record-crashes/

Exponential growth! Remember 0 and -300 are both possible exponents.

it's 2% of the S&P.

Dude is using his money and the power that comes with it to dismantle democracies around the world so nah

Not sure how it is tested but wouldn't be out of character for them to try an manipulate the tests like dieselgate. Difference is higher pollutants do not cause an immediate fatal threat. I'm not sure it is the testing requirements but rather they know the current version will simply kill people. I don't think sociopathic Musk cares about human life but it would actually kill the stock / company if there were a spate of deaths.

because they know that even if they can pass or cheat the test it will kill people which will in turn kill the company

They use disappearing message services like FDX did

Monorail! —but underground

Grifters gotta grift

"Tesla did nothing to secure that approval in 2025, according ‌to previously unreported state Department of Motor Vehicles records and a state spokesperson. Tesla logged zero miles of autonomous test driving on California ‌roads last year for the sixth year in a row, the records show." 🥱

Jokes on you for still listening to that buffoon.

Waymo's have been all over LA for like 2 years now. Musk can continue to lie all he wants but no one gives a shit about his brokedown janky robotaxis

Oh look, another day of Muskism. Spew some dumb shit, stock goes up. Make $$ trillions, buy up politicians and dismantle democracy and institutions.

They're pumping the stock on the glorious future of Robotaxi. If they completely fail to get permits, it's much harder to pump since there's clear data on how far away they are. Especially if reports from those permit-attempts get published. It risks killing confidence in their Robotaxi scheme, so it's safer for the stock to just avoid it and continue to make lofty promises. I don't know how they plan to dig themselves out of that hole, but it seems to boil down to hoping that their FSD-AI training just makes a magical breakthrough on its own and somehow "solves" it.

Same reason they cannot do Level III anywhere. They throw shade at other manufacturers Level III, but are unable to match it. Yes, FSD everywhere is theoretically better, but if your competitors achievements are so trivial, why not at least match them for the time being?

>Tesla ​has not logged any miles with state regulators since 2019 and has documented only 562 ​miles in total since 2016. This would indicate they started years ago and then gave up.

I’ve taken 3 Robotaxi rides in S.F. Each ride required a driver intervention. First time Robotaxi tried to back into a bus stop as a Muni bus was pulling in. Last time it got spooked by trash on the freeway. Thing Elon can’t realize is that human eyes on a rotating neck have much better depth perception than cameras hard mounted to a car.

Most (all?) of that 562 miles was filming the Paint It Black video.  It’s not so much that they gave up as they never really intended to field a legitimate autonomy development program in the first place.

I think even the Tesla faithful are slowly getting tired of the bull$hit.

Correct. They are blaming regulation, but it's their technology that isn't good enough to meet the regs/standards. Every other AV vendor seems to be able to meet the regs/standards.

I feel tempted to email the Wall Street shysters that pump Musk, ask them if they’ve taken this account into their research and projections and point out that if they haven’t it might lead to questions about their credibility as analysts and, at a worst case, an appearance of a conflict of interest which could be a problem for them and their firms in the future. The strength of the approach is that it is undoubtedly true that they are certainly turning a deliberate blind eye to it. At a best case it would force them to respond, especially if it was in public. Even if they don’t respond it would raise the stakes for their on going charade - there is now a paper treat trail showing they are either ignorant or incompetent or openly deceitful.. This might work with Morgan Stanley who still have a reputation to defend - but wouldn’t work with someone like Dan Ives I think, whose reputation is essentially that of the clown he dresses as.

Good point. When it crashes down (and it will) these clowns will say that there was no way to know But it does create a sort of robin hood situation where the rich give to us poors

>“I believe half of the population of the US will be covered by Tesla’s robotaxi by the end of the year," \--Elmo, BS artist, July 2025 [https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-failed-to-deliver-on-2025-promises](https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-failed-to-deliver-on-2025-promises)

Waymos are running laps around teslas.

Small sample size but that feels significant to me, 3/3.   I wonder if increasing camera megapixels only increases data and therefore the potential to get spooked by trivial data.