Tesla is quoting $290,000 for its 500-miles electric semi truck

I also enjoy making up prices for things that will never exist.

Spoiler: it either won't be $290k or won't have 500-miles range. Probably both.

How much for the support crew that follows in a normal Diesel truck?

500 miles... Fully unloaded lol

500 miles....towed

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Is this a harder flop than Cyberstuck?

500 miles downhill but we'll tilt the camera to make it look like it's driving uphill!

Didn't Frito Lay have these hauling around mostly air and they still kept breaking?

SpaceX/X/xAI/XXX are going to buy them all and use them as datacenters. Guarantee this will be the next wild claim.

With a diesel generator towed behind to recharge continuously

We've had production electric semis in the US for around 7 years now.

I mean to be fair frito lay bags are mostly air. Wait was that me getting whooshed. Big air is watching.

Last new Tesla truck model was promised at $39,900 with over 500 mile range. Look how well that worked out....

Look who’s talking, UK :))))

I’d like to see it go from Texarkana to Atlanta with a trailer full of beer before committing.

Impossible task...

So if we use the Cybertruck’s prediction vs reality then it could cost $600,000 for a base model to upwards of $900,000 well equipped. And the range won’t meet estimates, by a long shot. Certainly not pulling a load. And with its massive batteries everyone should pray they don’t get in a pile-up with one where people trapped in a pile-up will burn alive by the dozens.

Will it really have 500-mile range? No, it'll be less. Will it really cost $290K? No, it will be more. Will it sell? Yes, as well as the Cybertruck.

Lol imagine. Going from LA to Vegas and running out of battery and needing to sit for 3 hours to charge.

Definitely both. You can take that to the bank.

500mi - unloaded, downhill, with a tailwind, drafting a diesel truck, on bicycle tires pumped up 120psi

For the moon amirite

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It didn’t do well? I thought I saw pictures of it on the moon or something.

Ill make one for $289,000.

And a 50 feet sail mast.

They already do exist, just not in production.

Double the price, half the range, actual availability: 10+ years

With no AC or heater running....downhill....with a tailwind.... during a blue moon.

They could just bail out Nikola.

At least it's not ugly.

Its a ultra rare achievement but it has to be unlocked to 100% capitalism

But how many people can it run over on auto pilot each 500 miles?

“declining colonies” is brilliantly accurate

They can't handle the weight of Elron's hot air.

Launch them into space and use them as data centres.

I can just picture them covered in solar shingles.

The semi will require a “trailing cable” like those used with giant electric mining excavators. Basically an extension cable.

Are they going to make a fake Burt Reynolds from a fake Optimus.

How much extra for a turn signal stalk?

Listen guys! How dare you!!! Leon said it would beat rail! In a convoy scenario! It's a no brain! Ffs. He just wants to make the world better mmmkay? Hyperloop will make our lives way better! Starship will be able to travel from continent to continent! Starship will one day take us to Mars....once they figure out how to get it to orbit.... without blowing up...have some faith in the dear leader

Next year, definitely! /s

20mph because 80mph would be 100miles range lmao

Hahahaha

So they don’t exist then. Even Elon says “prototypes are easy, production is hard”.

They don’t exist in production because Tesla cannot built the semi they claim this one is. So is there a piss poor version they pushed out and most likely gave free to Pepsi in some back room Epstein type of deal to prop up the Tesla stock, then yes you can claim it exists if you don’t mind being dishonest.

It would have been if they actually sold the semi as companies would have sued them for not making the numbers they claim, logistics is very focused on cost per mile, unlike the losers who bought a giant Nazi dog whistle. There is a reason why only a couple were made to haul potato chips, which Pepsi got a crap load of government subsidies to take them.

The truck itself is only $50k, the other $250k is for the flatbed it will need to be towed on.

Next year Every year!

Those numbers put it on the heavy side but not outrageous for a day cab. I believe a Freightliner Cascadia or a Peterbiilt, fueled, are somewhere in the 15 to 18 thousand pound range. So not great, not terrible. But they're competing with people who know trucks and have had several years to lean electric.

Ayyyy now thats edison motors and they're actually doing a good job with their diesel electric trucks. They are actually making thier own truck because they got tired of waiting for tesla.

Emotional Support Wrecker.

Why can't this guy just deliver something once before he starts complaining? It really can't be that hard to wait until there's a binding offer with a firm delivery date. It's always just announcements, probable delivery dates, probable prices, and probable services. I'm genuinely surprised anyone still takes this nonsense seriously.

Maybe 500 mile range empty? I'd believe that. Definitely not loaded though.

And a 40mph tailwind

lol junk. It will be lucky to get 350 miles and not tow a loaded trailer to its destination. It will come with a giant red button for a direct line to a semi tow truck. The price will be well more than that.

I’ve only seen prototypes.

No. Worst sales and more unreliable than the Edsel and killed more than the Pinto, iirc.

"Unicorns exist, it's just that they just exist in stories."

2-3 times.

They should just have the unsold cyber trucks assemble into a semi like Voltron.

How much for the moon base?

How can anyone believe anything Elon musk says anymore he has never been truthful or accurate about any product launch

I saw one driving in Santa Clara a couple of months ago. Looked pretty cool, but it’s odd I’ve only ever seen one.

has anyone actually seen these in california? i heard pepsi and frito lays drivers been using them

Don’t worry, for just $1.2 million you can get a special deal on TWO trucks, one that hauls freight, and a second one hauling more batteries behind you in order to hit that 500mile target.

The cybertruck formula.

Electrified semis are not at all practical . A diesel engine can get 8 mpg , which is very efficient . They pull 80k lbs including 45 or more in cargo .

I’ll be charging $500,000 for my Star Trek matter transporter, but you can only get one if you pay in full five years in advance.

So they cost barely the same as the one from Volvo, MAN, Daimler Trucks you can already buy.

Lol.... Just like Trump with his "we'll have it in two weeks" B.S.

If tesla focused on that last one, they'd probably be worth a hell of a lot more

Driving around on the moon…

The Cybertruck was the first Tesla vehicle that spent 100% of its development under Musk. The Semi and Roadster appear to be vaporware at this point. The fact that the Models 3, S, X, and Y (or what’s still being made) haven’t had major updates is pretty telling.

Announcements always made just before the earnings call.

The napkin math I did in the Terrathread yesterday came up with a best case fuel cost savings over ICE of 16 cents per mile - or $160k for a million mile truck. A basic Freightliner is $175k. So the delta in initial cost is $115k, leaving a potential $45k in savings over maybe 5-7 years of a million mile life cycle. There's a ton of "ifs" in there, having to do with time of use energy billing, and of course there's maintenance/downtime cost - TSLA will claim superiority, but I remain skeptical. I think if they could actually build them at scale (doubt) and they really meet range claims (extra doubt), Tesla might sell a few of these...until freight companies fully comprehend the TSLA service experience.

xAI seems pretty focused on it

I really have no clue: How much does a Diesel truck that can tow similar loads cost?

I see, you guys don’t even bother to elect a king because you are just brainwashed that their family has to stay in power for generations because they are of some divine descent. Great!

Ah, so this is built on the cyber truck frame.

Cult goes beserk, stock goes up 30%

It will also be able to operate in space. Autonomously. And be charged with solar. And also you get a Russian bride with every purchase

The Tesla stock is too over valued for that. Better to use Tesla stock to funnel cash into another shady Musk business.

This is a fair enough take.

But they do, just not at the specs they're aiming for yet, if ever.

And sure, you could buy a Scania electric or a Volvo electric, companies that know how to build trucks. But TESLA is also a company that technically has built a truck before so why not let their famously good service team look after you /s

$290k without battery, 500 miles without load..

Mine will cost $350 and go 1000 miles. I just need you to invest $1 billion in my company to make it happen.

I will bet you 10,000 dollars the Tesla semi comes out.

Full self towing (unsupervised) ((supervised))

How old is the semi legend ?

We're building them on the moon currently! That's what the moon base is for!

Bullshit. The best on market truck battery hits about 500 going mostly downhill at 20-25 MPH in perfect conditions. They expect us to believe they can make something that can easily weight 30-40x that at 300k? There's just no chance a 35-40 ton vehicle is gonna hit 500 miles going 65+ MPH.

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A pererbilt 579, based on a quick lookup, costs less upfront and goes a lot further. Which means a business can put one on the road for far less than the Tesla and start making back the capital investment.

Just like the Roadster 2

I think it’s also likely they underestimated how much it would weigh or how important weight would be to trucking companies. Shipping a truckload of Lays potato chips not a problem but any freight where loads are close to 80,000 lbs every pound heavier than a diesel rig means a pound less of cargo. Trucking boils down to how much does it cost per ton per mile and Musk’s bullshit and hype has little value in the trucking industry.

$3.50? I can do that.

$100k more than a new peterbuilt? What would be the roi on that?

It is Schrödingers Truck. It has everything as long as you don’t see it.

Don’t tell me you’re still upset you lost the independence war. It cannot be it.

Quoting? Wasn’t this already shipping to customers in 2020? Am I crazy?

Will you take my 5k deposit please ?

Mine will have rocket boosters, to jump over pot holes.

I don’t have $1B but have an island with some females on it. (The island is in my backyard pond. I’ve got some females newts that have laid eggs there)

Destination Fee: $150,000.00

Miles are money in the world of trucking. 600 miles a day is typical. 650 is possible on an 11-hour clock. Anybody developing an electric truck should start with that and work backwards. Truck drivers are not going to voluntarily give up 1/5th of their income, and trucking companies are not going to give up 1/5th of their productivity.

That suspension does't look like it will survive off-roading.

Using the same metrics as Cyber Truck ($80K vs. $40K promised), and a range of 325 (500 promised), Semi will cost $580K, and get 325 miles of range, providing you are hauling cheese puffs (Pepsi Co).

> the independence war. There were dozens of independence wars. Which are you referring to?

I can't believe no one did the 'tree fiddy' before me. That never happens.

2nd one is diesel powered.

Strong wind, high steep hill and many many good wishes.

Uh, PAY for it. That is when the IRL things start to happen.

Lmao. Aka the Vapor Truck

One way or another, yeah. Can't wait for the first load to rapidly disassemble itself in that peculiarly unscheduled way. Or is it actually scheduled?

Oh? Just you wait, Leon will fix that ASAP.

Is ASAP after next year?

I only gave him a dolla

Trucking industry values reliability very very highly. Repair-ability too. If it can't be fixed in the middle of nowhere at 3 AM local time, the losses start. If has to be towed more than an hour, losses increase. If it has to wait for parts, service availability or any of of the hundreds of other things that could go wrong, it is unlikely to bought or used by this industry. Proven track record is something Leon does not have.

Yeah but for a truck guaranteed to break down for 1 million miles…. /s

Actual range 335-350 mile in ideal conditions. Extended battery pack to bring mileage to 500 available for $130,000 in 3-6 months. By the way, we don’t have any connector for that extender pack built in.

So, where's the roadster? 🤔

Just a diesel tanker truck with a generator structurally duct tapped to it.

With full self driving!

If not, then the year after. You know, Leon's usual time line for things.

It’s existed for years. Pepsi has a bunch.

Can I use it on MOON ?

None that can take any load for 500 miles. They only use them to take chips a few dozen miles down the road.

Settlement on mars by now right guys? lmao

'Tree Fiddy! Dammit!' https://youtu.be/tuh8Hip_B3w?si=cYc9AxeX50JXWIJk

OK, but what's the reservation non-reimbursable fee?

But vrooom vrrooooom the Tesla Semi will accelerate super fast! Wheee!!! And you'll sit in the middle, making it super cool! Wheeee!!! (They really have no fucking clue what trucking companies care about)

Companies are slightly more rational than MAGA influencers who bought their cyberstucks thinking their dicks would grow larger, so they won't buy any of these with their own money. They'll buy it with your money instead, they'll buy it with tax money available for "green" projects, just like what Frito-Lay did for the initial beta test. That wasn't their money, that was California tax dollars at work.

If you pay a deposit now you'll almost certainly possibly maybe get a truck in a short period of 3-150 years.

Counterpoint: Tesla has fart mode.

Itll be 500k with 290 mile range

I would buy an optimus Fred.

Great, they can carry 20 packets of crisps for 30 miles! It's a simple question, what is the load capacity of one of their trucks. Every other manufacturer can give it, why can't Tesla?

Sarcasm tags ruin the sarcasm

I was close, I said "over 300k" yesterday, based on non-sleeper cab versions of the Freightliner eCascadia prices of around $300k in the non-sleeper cab trim. They're claiming over double the range of the eCascadia, which begs the question of why they'd sell this at a cheaper price. I think that's pretty clear on account that they use a similar strategy with their battery storage. In order to drive down their costs, Tesla has always pre-ordered massive volumes of battery cells from their suppliers, likely with supply growth built into the supply contracts. These same cells are used in their vehicles and battery storage. However, if their vehicle sales were to ... say... stop growing, then they're already locked into their cell source contracts and it would result in a massive explosion of battery cell inventory. If that happens... they throw those excess cells into battery storage, and then underbid all competitors to ensure they always sell out their battery cells. They can do this because their cells were bought for cheaper than their much smaller competitors. This is the same reason GM started talking about getting into battery storage... because it can be used as a hedge against weak vehicle demand, while also enabling massive cell orders to drive down cell price costs; or in GM's case, to produce high volumes of their own cells and take advantage of economies of scale. Sadly, GM has been slow to the game. Had they been faster, they would have been able to compete with Tesla directly on battery storage, forcing prices down even further, and Tesla wouldn't always be guaranteed to win storage contracts, which could result in a build in cell inventory; screwing Tesla over. Tesla was planning to replace cell suppliers with their own cell production of the 4680 cells in order to lower their costs and have more control over their cell supply volumes, but that's been somewhat of a bust AFAIK. I'm not entirely clear what their contract is to produce LFP cells in Nevada, but it sounds like they bought equipment and training from CATL to produce these cells. No idea if they have to share the revenue with CATL, or there are some volume supply agreements. I imagine this means they'll be using more LFP cells in their vehicles and storage, which will free up supply from their other cell production... so now they need a place to put that excess supply. Since Tesla's vehicle sales growth has stalled... even shrunk a bit... and given that they've now lost the EV tax credit, and regulatory credits are all but null and void in the US, their US demand and margins will be further restricted. They're now having to move US cell supply from their vehicles into other products; clearly battery storage, but now semi trucks that may use as much as 12x+ as many cells as their model 3/Y. By undercutting their competitors' prices, like their battery storage products, it guarantees they sell out all of their supply and clear out all of their cell inventory. Further, unlike their personal vehicles, California has dedicated something like $165 million in funding to subsidize the sale of Tesla Semi (supposedly Tesla Semi specific funding; not for other branded EV semi trucks), ranging from $84k - $351k each. (according to Electrek) At $217.5k in direct government subsidies per truck on average, that would enable them to sell 758 of these trucks before running out of government funding. 758 \* 290,000 = $220 million in revenue. Needless to say, other EV semi truck suppliers are none too happy that California has provided Tesla such a massive and nonsensical competitive advantage; a clear case of a government picking a winner. Tesla also has a tendency to use the strategy of overflowing the market with supply so that not only will competition be locked out from the market, but it could cause some serious financial pain to those other companies who may have already spent a bundle to build up supply chain. If there's one thing that Musk is very good at, it's extracting taxpayer dollars from our government.

500 miles in winter/cold conditions?

No, the test is on video. They tested it on a route from Fremont CA to San Diego, with average speeds that looked to be around 55 mph. The video was posted on December 1 2022, but I imagine the test was done before then, meaning the test was likely performed at between 60 degrees and 75 degrees. I doubt this range estimate is based on an EPA test cycle. Yes, winter/cold will reduce the range, but then Tesla only seems to be setting up a charging route along the Southern and South West sides of the US.

I'm waiting for the tesla semi on fire picture in front of the next trump building. 😅

It will be waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat, so it can cross rivers, lakes & even seas that aren’t too choppy.

Established marques with their quick EV design conversions of existing designs will eat up the short distance market.

You want Edison Motors in Canada then.

Self driving so you don't need to pay for a driver. Just a virtual driver in India.

22% of new heavy truck sales in China in the first half of 2025 were electric (up from about 8–9% the year before). Not only will the Tesla semi exist, but its late to the party. The concept is proven and it not only works, total cost of ownership is about 25% less. Thats a no brainer for any company that can swing the up front costs. The only real question is will the Us invest in the charging infrastructure to make it viable here.

The 500-mile range is laughable. I looked up the range of a typical diesel semi: "A typical diesel semi-truck has a, driving range of approximately **1,200 to 2,000+ miles** on a single full tank of fuel. This, impressive range is achieved with dual tanks (often 120–150 gallons each) averaging 6 to 8.5 miles per gallon (MPG)." Hydrogen-powered trucks could probably achieve these kinds of ranges, but more hydrogen infrastructure is required to make that feasible in practice.

Trucks have had that for years. Sometimes truckers have to eat at gastrointestinally challenging places.

Are you being sarcastic?

The Tesla semi design already looks really dated.

So $580,000 and it only goes 200 miles on a charge when actually hauling something… more vaporware

"You want it for $290k? Of course... It's just that... that's the model variation 42c, which won't be out for... um... a few more years. The first model is the higher end one, that starts at $600k... without seats or a battery, if you want seats or a battery, it will run you $800k. But please, members of the press, do as you always do, and only publish that $290k price in all your reporting even though that product doesn't exist, and might never exist."

More likely about 375 mile range on flat ground with no load and going 40mph on the highway…

Dirt monkey here. It costs a lot to run electricity around a property. I mainly do residential and 15 to 45 thousand to get power to a house is routine. Thats just a 200 amp service. A fleet sitting overnight charging is going to have expensive infrastructure. Upgrade power to building on lot. Trenching to every parking spot. Cost of chargers. Cost of electricians. Cost to power company. Cost of hardware. Cost of lot being innacessable while work is done. Could easily be 100 g's or more per truck. This has to be factored into the payback period.

Or won't be around until 2049

I'm quoting $718,000 for the current pair of underwear I'm wearing.

Id true - decently priced. They really need to ramp up to a 1000 mile range version.

Can’t flop if it never happens. It’ll just fade into the background.

What is the land speed velocity of an unladen Tesla semi truck?

I'm not a fan of Tesla but I see them almost weekly in Nevada near California. And I have for several years

"Available next quarter!"\*ᵗ¹²³⁴⁵ \[followed by 69,420 pages of disclaimers\]

What you see isn't a $290k truck that can haul things 500 miles. That's the benchmark Tesla established.

Trump pardoned Nikola's founder. Nikola 2 is in the making.

they "launched" it in 2022 you know. a big party as they had pepsi show off a few hand made models. Seems like they abandoned it since except as a stock pump. and as a stock pump specifically, $290k is as good a price as any other, especially since Tesla will never mass produce these.

It doesn’t need to, the truck will mine its own bitcoin to fund repairs made by underage mechanics.

WTF?!

Robots driving them

There's a factor in your lifecycle analysis you didn't include. Fleet truck owners (Swift, JB Hunt, etc) typically run their trucks for 3 years, maybe 4, then sell them. Owner-operator types will buy them for maybe $60k or so. But - will there be any market for used Tesla semis? I'm guessing it will be small, meaning either the fleet owner has to keep them longer (and accept the higher maintenance costs) or sell them for less. Just one more for your "ton of ifs", but if they're losing $20k on the resale, that's a big chunk of the potential savings over the first 3 or 4 years.

Well, if your electric truck has 350 mile range, then 650 miles in a day is totally possible. Remember, your 11 hours comes in a 14 hour window, so you could run 300-odd miles in 5 hours, take a 3 hour charging break, and run another 300-odd miles in the next 5 hours. Of course, that assume you can fully charge in less than 3 hours (and that there's a charger available in the right place). Realistically the Tesla semi is only viable for P & D or dedicated routes with a charger at each end.

It’s not a question of where it GRASPS it! Oh, an African swallow, mayBE!

Are they hyoo-mon females?

Yeah, electric trucks will be great for a lot of trucking applications. But the technology has a very long way to go to be able to fully replace diesel for long-haul, I think. Diesel trucks actually get pretty decent mileage once they’re up to speed and cruising. It’s the getting up to speed part that sucks it down. But especially hills. Any long-haul replacement will need to be able to get up and over some pretty high mountain passes. Diesels go from ~10mpg on the flat to barely over 1mpg while climbing a steep hill. Can the electric get over the Donner Pass without having to re-charge half-way up? But regenerative braking will be awesome! You can get a lot of that juice back on your way back down the mountain. Should be a big safety improvement, too.

The constant announcements are sure sign that Tesla is heading for bankruptcy.

Never trust Elon musk.

So…these things were using the same motors that were in the Plaid S & X’s… So what’s the plan…….what are we doing here

With that range, it weighs approximately one Hummer EV more than a Freightliner Cascadia.

I just need you to invest 500M in my company. We are going to make a battery the size of a AA that will power that things for at least 1,000 miles. We are working out the last few issues.

Is this the same company that said the cybertruck will cost $39k and get 250 miles and for $60k it will get 500 miles? So this means the semi will cost $500k and get 250 miles. Got it. And just like Cybertruck, nobody will buy it.

Pfft, the US is a dead cat; it's protectionist policies for Tesla has done nothing but hurt it because they never had to actually innovate in true capitalism. China is light years ahead in EVs and it might as well be the beacon showing that they are going to be the future world leaders.

So there is a truck-shaped thing that has batteries?

Please reserve 10 for me.

Correct, I don’t understand why Electrek is reporting the price as if the product is widely available, which I highly doubt.

Didn't the US military buy a bunch of the rolling dumpsters to use as target practice?

how much do semi's usually cost? pardon my ignorance

> innovate in true capitalism. This only really exists near the start when established markets and giant corporations don't exist. Late stage capitalism is just a series of oligopoloes as capital has consolidated over time. Any new entrants that do somehow manage to breakthough ultimately get bought out.

You can place pre-orders for a non-refundable pre-order fee of just 50k, which will be accounted when buying!

You see the semi?

yeah just like how the driverless robotaxi came out.

This is why I hate it when anyone tries to compare him to Steve Jobs, who was insanely secretive about what apple was working on until it was ready for buyers

Anyone else remember when Musk stood on stage in front of this thing and declared that they had convoy tech that made them both 10x safer than regular trucking and faster than rail. "We can do this today, now". I have not heard a single mention of this alleged revolutionary technology since.

> They are actually making thier own truck because they got tired of waiting for tesla. Every big trucking company in Europe and the US already has EV trucks and have done for years already. Then whatever the Chinese and Koreans are doing.

What is the price for a electric Volvo or Mercedes or Chinese truck which are already on the roads?

I have a pretend $290,000 for Tesla's pretend truck.

The royal family is ceremonial. They have no power.

If FSD is as close as Musk claims, why have they included a human driver area at significant increased cost?

Exactly this, the only person who can do what Donald Trump is doing in the US is the Prime Minister with the backing of MPs in Parliament. A bill must be first proposed by MPs in the House of Commons. Then MPs vote on whether to accept the bill or reject it. If a majority of MPs are in favour of it, it then passes. A bill that passes the House of Commons must then go into the House of Lords for revision. If it passes both chambers then it gets royal assent and becomes an Act of Parliament. Royal assent is seen as more of a formality as no reigning monarch has refused it since 1708 which was before the American Revolution if memory serves. Granted King Charles could refuse royal assent but that would trigger a constitutional crisis in which he may have to abdicate. Source: I live in Yorkshire, England.

I owned one when I was 5

Loaded with chips

Well there’s another loser proposition for a product the doesn’t exist.

The dumb design is probably going to be one of the biggest dealbreakers. No front passenger seat, ignores the fact that drivers often need to pass stuff out the side window - basically a working vehicle designed from the ground up based on what Musk and Tesla thinks are good ideas, not what the drivers want. Meanwhile you've got the 'legacy' market leaders of Scania, Iveco, Mercedes, Man and others who actually listen to customers, have caught up with and passed Tesla and been producing electric trucks for years now. Much like the Cybertruck, the Tesla semi is also dead-on-arrival in Europe and much of the world because it's not a cab-over (those markets restrict the total length of the truck, so a longer tractor means less cargo volume)

what you mean? $290,000 is already quoted price.

Stating a price of the truck _at all_ is weird given it's a B2B market, not retail. Normally such prices are negotiable and depend on what features the buyer wants, how many they're buying, when they need them delivered, etc.

If Tesla delivers, good on them. Due to their history -- I would add two caveats \#1) I will believe when I see it. \#2) Seeing as they made $250 Million on the non-existent battery swap -- How much government subsidies are they getting for being first to market?

Can't wait to see a thousand of these in a parking lot, unsold.

China is one of Tesla’s biggest markets. The model Y has topped monthly sales charts there many times. Completely agree the US protectionist policies are incredibly stupid, but it’s great for Tesla. They are really the only US car company actually putting up robust competition to China. The policies may have hurt Tesla a bit domestically, but they absolutely decimated the domestic EV competition to the point many brands just gave up. That’s huge for Tesla. They took out their biggest domestic competition just when they were starting to overtake Tesla. That’s horrible for the country, horrible for US consumers, but the short term losses seem well worth it for Tesla.

I saw one of these in traffic and was impressed at it moving like a normal vehicle

Tesla will be bankrupt so don't expect any after market service.

These are close to shipping, what are you talking about

HAHAHAHAHA! Sure they are bud. Just like the Roadster 2, robotaxis (without safety drivers), people on Mars (was supposed to be 3 years ago according to Elon), 10k solar tiles per week, millions of Cybertruck deliveries, NASCAR-like Tesla repair...

Yes. I live in Reno, NV and they are routinely seen since the Gigafactory is nearby. The trucks I've seen are on 80 headed to or from California but I've seen them enough that they seem routine.

I’d daily this for work and jersey mikes

Perfect for hauling potato chips, and not much else.

500 miles when hauling puffed up doritos bags full of air.

maybe mention that upfront next time instead of implying they’re actually being used.

Rivian makes some EVs for Amazon. Those look nice and actually exist.

they have had major updates, but they made things worse (removing stalks so you have to use the touchscreen for shifting, and merging the exterior lights to make it look ugly)

$500,000 290-Miles 2029

Sub $300k for an 11,000 pound high efficiency battery would be a steal without the truck. This platform is a fantasy Elon can't deliver.

Tesla is a such a Ponzi scheme. Why not 1000 miles?! How about 5000 miles?! It’s never coming to market so might as well lie your ass off.

you can take that 1 billion and use it to bail out and buy products from your other failing businesses in a circular pattern and be the worlds richest person.

When is Elmo DOA in Europe and the rest of the world?

Vaporware’s gotta get paid for by someone to get to a $1 trillion dollar net worth. Plus it opens our eyes to know that Electrek is just basically bought and paid for spam.

* speeds<65mph, half-load trailer, constant travel speed, highway only

Will be years before they reach breakeven at that price especially if most sales r the long range trim

If Musk had a clue he would have gotten the short range Semi to production years ago and could have sold or leased a significant number within CA which had an incentive or requirement for EV trucks for drainage since at least 2020

*downhill

Same case here. But I will ALSO need an advance bonus payment of 500M right away. To my personal account.

Yeah I rather take diesel powered that will go 1500 miles on a full tank of diesel fuel over Tesla “estimated range” lmao

It probably does. Pepsi has had them for years. Employees on YouTube like them

You should see the geniuses at Tesla investors club that are calculating how fast it will recover its money by saving on fuel.   The argument goes “it cost 100k more than a diesel but it saves 15k a year on fuel” or something like that.  Not a single one thought to include in the calculation the fact that it’s supposed to carry load that is getting payed for

So you didn’t include the fact that these things are supposed to carry cargo and that a diesel one can carry way more per trip that the electric which means less income.

without heat or AC running, windows closed, in a tailwind.

Or warranty.

Now we know what kind of chips Felon wants to manufacture. Would you like salted or BBQ?

It's so nice of people to give them $50k insterest-free loans indefinitely.

They do tend to seem more an more desperate each time.

What's the range? You can keep the skid marks.

The trucks are FOB: Mars.

Down the memory hole apparently.

How much more for the real thing, not just a CGI rendering?

They don't cost anything at all because they don't exist. However feel free to give Tesla an interest free loan while they promise to deliver something "next year."

True. Even in the early days I remember rumors about projects called Lisa and Macintosh but beyond the codenames leaking nobody had any clue what they actually were until the products were official announced.

$10,000 non-refundable deposit. Will be ready by the end of a year.

Launch date 2030

I'll do it for a shiny nickel.

… Model 2, “unboxed” production, dojo, Cybertruck battery extenders, the everything app, networks of tunnels, vehicles as appreciating assets (maybe his dumbest claim of all… although a flying and floating roadster is a close second).

Current charging infrastructure can’t support EV long haul so that’s out of the picture. These trucks are for local delivery and MAYBE dedicated regional routes(DC to DC with dedicated chargers at each location). So middle of nowhere breakdowns are not gonna be an issue these trucks will face. However if Tesla gate keeps on parts & service data on these trucks like they do with their cars it will be a major issue for the operators.

They'll give it a shot to try to use excess battery cell production. But probably a better idea to build and operate battery backed substations and solar farms and move into grid services in a bug way. Plenty of money to be made even if the AI boom fizzles in the near future

In the original reveal event Elon said "this beats rail". He may have been referring to "platoon mode", I don't recall

Model 3 was ugly, looked like a vacuum cleaner, the update made it look a bit better, but still super generic. Model Y was worse and the update made it possibly the worst looking new car on the market. So they ended S and X. Great job!

If Musk is the one who said it, each number should be doubled or halved.  Whichever is worse.  Then you'll probably be close to how it actually will be.

I've seen these trucks on the freeway. I guess I must be hallucinating. That or you're uninformed.

You're hallucinating. Because the $290k 500-mile truck doesn't exist, and never will (at least not from Tesla). What you have seen (and what you shills report) is a $600k truck that can pull chips 100 miles.

Well if it’s hauling downhill it’ll actually charge If it’s hauling uphill it will use more energy than flat terrain … just like ICE

With its regular car sales tanking, I don’t know why Tesla isn’t ramping up on these which have a huge backlog of demand.

Lotus builds three electric roadsters. Originally the Tesla roadster was a lotus Elise with an ev drivetrain. I don’t know how they could be better than a lotus, brand cachet isn’t there or what it once was for Tesla to say the least.. lotus has the name and the brand history track record etc. I think geely owns it.

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Well, the 1,000 people who put down Roadster 2 deposits have given them a quarter billion dollars of interest free loans for over eight years without even a prototype existing.

\> Musk’s bullshit and hype has little value in the trucking industry. Because it's yet another thing he knows absolutely nothing about. He just makes up shit as he goes along. No market research is being done, nor does it even appear that he works with engineers or runs any kind of cost analisys to see what's realistically feasible. It's amazing how someone with no business sense whatsoever has managed to fail upward this much. #misanthropy

I exists and doesn't exist simultaneously.

Sold by weight, not volume!

\> Proven track record is something Leon does not have. He has a proven track record as a liar, conman and ignoramus.

Girls FTW!

Because Tesla had to pretty much give them away for free in order to receive those units sold.

Well you can ask Tesla what it costs but first you'll have to answer a bunch of questions and sign an NDA. Yeah they're requiring people to sign an NDA that says they can't publicly mention the price.