Tesla: “The Biggest Bubble Possibly in Stock Market History”?

It's been for years. The problem is they keep adding new shit to the "vision" to lure in new meme stock buyers so you can't really short it. It can double overnight on a new rumour at any time. So calling it a bubble becomes kind of a moot point, everyone knows it but nobody can really act on it.

Enron Musk will have his day yet and it won’t be soon enough

I mean, it's like Gamestop style - completely divorced from reality

The key-man risk seems to be ignored with Tesla. It's like investing in a small clinic group with a bunch of popular specialist doctors. When those doctors retire or go on sick leave, the stock just dies.

There is no question about it.

It's too big to fail at this point. It will never fail, no matter how dumb, this because the US stock market, and all those connected will be negatively affected by a crash. A fake inflated economy is much more beneficial than the alternatives. I hope I am wrong.

and the lead doctor is also a self-confessed drug addict whose physical appearance indicates serious health issues.

Meanwhile, I'm taking notes to create my own bubble that will make me a trillionaire.

I’m curious what will happen to Musk and his companies if the next president is someone who hates him. Might finally be the beginning of the end

So if you're right, it means that part of the American economy is subject to speculation.

I mean is there any other contender for that title that comes even close to the fraud that TSLA is?

The way to destroy the POS was for everyone who wasn't a white supremacist to stop buying his cars, stop using his internet and stop using Twitter. Unfortunately humanity failed the test badly.

> in a small clinic group with a bunch of popular specialist doctors ... where the treatment rooms are empty most of the time because there's only a few clients left that want to get treatment from that group ... and which is telling everybody that their business actually isn't running a clinic but selling the world's best ice cream (despite they haven't sold a single cup of ice cream so far and also don't know how ice cream is priduced)

Right. Every time there's a tiny correction, people flock right to it, buying back, hoping to get in before the next jump based on Musk's next set of lies. It's a speculative investment right now, not a 'real' stock where you care what's behind it. It's more like bitcoin, or like what Gamestop was for a little while. Not tethered to anything real, just tethered to everyone guessing what everyone else is going to do with the stock. Tesla as a company will have to *really* tank for the stock to ever drop significantly. I think it will happen someday, and when it does, it will happen fast. I think there's still a ways to go though, with the mirages of *actual* FSD, AI, and robotics still seemingly on the horizon, no one cares about dropping car sales. They WILL start to care when they realize the rest is a mirage based on lines, but for now? They are still on board.

Just make wild claims that are objectively unachievable , print money.

Lots of people aren’t deep into TSLA and elon’s antics and just see their neighbors with the cars and buy them.

Gavin Newsom probably has issues with Leon. I’m not suggesting Newsom will be the next President, but it’s possible.

Seems obvious to anyone paying attention

GameStop is massively profitable, around 20 P/E ratio and cash about equal to their market cap. Check out Michael Burry’s latest analysis.

It will end in bankruptcy but it won’t matter to him. Also, me$rcedes explored a purchase of tesla many years ago and their one condition was that k man leave and not be involved after the purchase. He wouldn’t agree to it so discussions ended.

That in itself is a failure.

Hahaha, I love your attitude! That's exactly what I'm going to do to become a trillionaire.

So far I'm pretty impressed with Newsom. Yes, he's not perfect. I'm not looking for perfect. I'm looking for someone who can manage our country's darned resources without burying us in total debt. Newsom seems to be doing pretty well for California. I'm open to voting for him.

I think if you look you'll see the other EV car manufacturers are gaining. Musk is exactly why I bought a Rivian. For the record, I love this electric vehicle!

Can't wait to see him crying in the gutter where he belongs

Lol seeing this while watching the video on my TV.

I like the analogy

I dare say that most of the global economy is subject to speculation in our current timeline.

He said if Harris got elected he probably would have gone to jail. Pretty telling

Their is always a good reason why buffet didn’t get involved

Jesus!!!

Well part of the problem is also that it’s highly weighted in indices, so everyone keeps dumping their retirement $ into it by default.

Not even a close comparison.

From the biggest bubble head on earth.

Don't forget to buy politicians to make your own agency so you can disband all the investigations against you.

It has not done that in a long time. It has been a dog since 2022. If you bought after that you are on average losing money once trading fees and compensation packages are calculated.

It’s substantial (like 80% overvalued) but not even close to the biggest in history

I was thinking of him as well. As of right now, 2028 will most likely be him vs. Vance, and I think the odds are neck and neck.

I used to think that way about Donald J Trump.

I want in on this bubble

It's the biggest ponzi of all time. I'm starting to like this guy's videos. They aren't poorly product like Thunderfoot's.

I'm accounting for the upcoming hyperinflation so I'm going to be a sextillionaire.

And cut all the cronyism out of goverment so you can be the new crony.

With GameStop, if you checked fundamentals quarter after quarter since Ryan stepped in as CEO, this investment started to make more and more sense

It’s actually not that hard to scam people. Plenty of crypto scam coins made a lot of money before. It’s all about public image management

What are you even talking about? Even if you bought at the peak in 22 you’d be up today.

Bubble? Sure. Biggest? Not even close.

Buffet didn’t get involved because he chooses value stocks not speculative ones.

Every two weeks, 1% of all earned income in the U.S. is directed to buy the S&P 500 at market price. I honestly don’t know how it can ever market correct back to historical P/E ratios with that dynamic.

At this point, I’d vote for anyone, and I really do mean anyone that isn’t a magat.

Elon will start a subscription service for Tesla to offer AI child porn while hands free driving. Hits Elon’s fan base of incel basement dwellers. Now they can jerk it to kindergartens without mom walking in on them to feed them hot pockets.

Definitely a ridiculous bubble. I would love to short the hell out of this, but Elon has become very skilled at endlessly pumping Tesla and finding new suckers and I have zero doubt that he can outlast any feeble short effort on my part. Absolutely flabbergasting.

No it didn't, fuck off ape. Their stock is currently worth about twice as much as what their cash in hand and profits combined would justify. And those profits are mostly generated by the interest accrued by the pile of cash (that the CEO created by diluting investors) rather than by any improvement in the underlying business other than closing stores and shrinking the company's footprint into nothing.

Fake it till you make it.

Tesla is a pump and dump scam.

If you look at the history of “guessing presidential races three years out” it’s pretty hilarious. Who in January 2014 was guessing Trump would be the next GOP candidate, much less president?

> The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. — John Maynard Keynes

Yep, that’s why I said as of right now. Who knows how things will be the end of ‘28.

That's completely false, their stock is currently worth about twice as much as what their cash in hand and profits combined would justify. And those profits are mostly generated by the interest accrued by the pile of cash (that the CEO created by diluting investors) rather than by any improvement in the underlying business other than closing stores and shrinking the company's footprint into nothing.

Fake hype is what made the stock so high, not sales.

The biggest stock pump event by far last year was Elon merely buying some. No bullshit even necessary.

Psst it's not just Tesla, pass it on

His internet will continue being bought because the primary motivation behind it, unfortunately, was the military and the global elite. The rest who latch on to it are also in the relative global elite. And yea, a rural American farmer is ALSO in a relative global elite if people truly understand the level of disparities that exist in the world. This thing will not be used by the global poor. It'll be military, yachts, campers, militias, cottagers, cruise ships, private jets etc. Hardly anybody else is that desperately in need of remote low latency internet that couldn't have been provided through alternative, more sustainable means.

True.

Beware all ye who wish to short. Here there be monsters.

Literally have self driving cares without a safety passenger in Austin. Idiots lmfao.

Interest a cherry on top. Collectibles and PowerPacks is their core business now.

Why do you lie, ape? Rhetorical question, it's to shill your stock to suckers in order to pump your bags. [Q1 2025 results:](https://investor.gamestop.com/news-releases/news-details/2025/GameStop-Discloses-First-Quarter-2025-Results/default.aspx) Operating loss $10.8 million, interest income $56.9 million [Q2 2025 results:](https://investor.gamestop.com/news-releases/news-details/2025/GameStop-Discloses-Second-Quarter-2025-Results/default.aspx) Operating income $66.4 million, interest income $79.6 million [Q3 2025 results:](https://investor.gamestop.com/news-releases/news-details/2025/GameStop-Discloses-Third-Quarter-2025-Results/default.aspx) Operating income $41.3 million, interest income $49.0 million Oh, and YTD collectibles and powerpacks represented 27.5% of sales vs. 51.7% for hardware and accessories. They literally explain it in their results, you just need to Ctrl-F "collectibles". Good luck keeping that operating income out of the red when Switch 2 sales start to cool down.

I’ve always said it’s like Enron, but everyone knows it’s a scam and is pretty ok with it. They all think they won’t be the last bag holder.

All tech stocks are in bubble too, but I keep my money invested in all of these.

OpenAI, xAI, SpaceX. Just ask yourself what company is Musk involved with

My TSLQ is ready and waiting...

I just checked the financials and it looks fishy as! * **Automotive revenue fell sharply** (-$3.5B QoQ), signalling weaker demand (End of EV Rebate) * **Energy + Services stayed roughly flat**, too small to economically offset the auto collapse. * **Yet total gross profit barely moved and gross margin jumped** → this is **not operationally plausible** without accounting effects. * The gap was likely filled by **cost timing, inventory drawdowns, deferred costs, or reclassifications**, not real margin expansion. * **Operating cash flow dropped hard**, confirming the profit wasn’t “cash-real.” * **GAAP earnings took a hit while non-GAAP didn’t**, pointing to one-off or deferred charges parked outside adjusted metrics. (Fishy AF) Q4 looks **engineered to protect margins**, not driven by underlying business strength. This is classic **accounting smoke and mirrors** — margins improved on paper while the core auto business weakened underneath. Meanwhile everyone is commenting TSLA to the moon! Seriously I cant deal.

We have a 19% compounded inflation alone since 2022. While the market has done well as a whole, Tesla is trading just above 2022 prices. If you include inflation, you have lost money with Tesla. Certainly would do a lot better if you had invest in an index. Tesla has been a dog since 2022 underperforming the markets considerable and more so, not even keeping up with inflation. The very minimum marker.

I used to believe this and bought TSLZ end up losing money cuz POS TSLZ did RS!

Unfortunately the bubble will probably pop because Elon and his board of directors dump everything before the average investor has a clue. As long as Trump is in office he will pardon Musk to prevent any possible litigation too

The others have the profits to match their valuation. 120 billion profit a year is more than 4 billion, yet those companies aren't worth 30 times Tesla but just 2 to 3 times.

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EVs in general are great, but the icing on this particular cake is that Rivian's CEO isn't a nazi.

Yep. If people are looking for "perfect", they're never gonna find it. I'll take the one who isn't going to turn Proud Boys loose on the streets with automatic weapons and instructions to do whatever they want, because they'll have immunity. Fuck Trump and Vance and Miller and Bondi and...

Higher PE just means it's a hot stock and has heavy future potential. nothing makes sense so I try not to look at it most of the times unless it's falling. i have made most money with high PE stocks. I understand what you are saying.

And part of a class action lawsuit. Major recall with them remotely bricking customers without warning is a no-no.

Tesla is going to be a huge bubble, but I think bitcoin might top it.

There is not enough liquidity for this to happen. If they started dumping it would farrrrrk the market

But but robot surgeons

Yes, but you think they care?

It can, as long as there is no buyer, but sellers. The amount of shares outstanding is the same. All you need is a sucker willing to buy above $0. And as the index weight goes down, the percentage the ETFs have to allocate to Tesla also diminishes gradually.

Teslas P/E is currently at 288:1. For comparison: NVDIA is 45:1, and their sales numbers are neither declining nor can any other company do what they are currently doing. BMW is at 8:1.

Optimus robots are going to start assembling other Optimus robots. It is exponential growth from there.

His bubble was years and years ago and yet the man still keeps making money lol This bubble must not be so vulnerable as people want.

By index I’m assuming you are talking about things like voo? Which index has beat Tesla since 2022?

Release the EPSTEIN FILES!

shades of Enron. When they fall, it will fall hard

It for sure is the biggest bubble built on hopes and dreams. Over $1.5T valuation and it is trading like a start up.

Yes but during a downturn these are the stocks that get liquidated first.

Not If but when there is a bubble Tesla will be drawn in but unless there is a recession caused by the latest war (again probably not if but when) but Tesla shares will rebound. You don’t get it, Tesla makes record profits per car but cars is only tiny part of it, they are like Apple and will upsell add ons self drive software , Starlink, home batteries , recharging stations , they sell direct and service as well. The real money is robo taxis but 1000 times more than that any Tesla can be added to self driving fleet, then robots etc They have a supply chain and vertical integration like no one else . They are scaling fast exponentially. They don’t care about Chinese as Tesla is apple or BMW the Chinese cars are android or Ford and Tesla has US and China factories and now has duty protection in US. However the AI Ponzi scheme and war in Iran will crash the whole US market so who will buy their robots or use the FSD Tesla’s so it’s a hard call . Sell now is safe but if the war and AI bubble don’t happen Tesla will go ballistic . This is George Westinghouse all over a huge revolution , no one can beat Tesla’s self driving network , they have the data it cannot be copied in western roads. All auto makers will have to rent the data off Tesla. Robots will be big money but Tesla driverless taxis are half as much to run so multiply that by billions of taxi trips per year. All the Japanese and US and European brand cars are already collapsing as they have no good EV’s and there old fossil fuel cars are now dearer than EV’s and have lost economies of scale. This will be a boom for Tesla as well . The new generation will just hail a driverless Tesla and will not own a car but your normal Tesla’s can be added to the fleet and private owners can make huge money on their car when not being used. Everyone forgets the Titans of the last Industrial Revolution how fast they got rich.