In Memphis, where people fear Elon Musk’s supercomputer is making them ill
No surprises here.
No surprises here.
https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/07/07/a-billionaire-an-ai-supercomputer-toxic-emissions-and-a-memphis-community-that-did-nothing-wrong/#:~:text=The%20facility's%20behemoth%20methane%20gas,to%20respiratory%20and%20cardiovascular%20disease. Non-paid
The 35 gas turbines at this facility is 15,700 metric tons per year - equivalent to the emissions of 120k ICE cars.
Musk, who owns a solar company and builds enormous batteries, installs 35 methane burning turbines for power? He is such an a\*\*
They only have a permit for 15 apparently, and say the rest are just "stored" and not operational. Why thermal imaging shows them to be just as hot as the operational ones is a mystery.
quality work as always... I bet they have some terrible accounting fuck ups internally...
Can you not just buy a tank or bazooka in the USA
Didn't he also want to replace planes and trains with rockets that could reach any destination within 30 mins? He clearly doesn't give a shit about the environment, with tesla hes just greenwashing for greenbacks.
Perhaps this says something about solar power.
Tanks yes, but they have to have their firing systems removed before sale. Bazookas, not so much since the 1980’s.
Same how? In CO2? That might be problematic for the climate but it's not making people sick the way ICE car exhaust does.
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It is also releasing nitrogen oxides and formaldehyde. As of course xAI is doing nothing to capture pollutants. Source for this is from link of someone below that says: > the facility’s behemoth methane gas turbines increase Memphis’s smog by 30-60% as they belch planet-warming nitrogen oxides and poisonous formaldehyde around the clock, pollutants linked to respiratory and cardiovascular disease
If you saw how much the Texas factory makes in pollution and illegal waste dumping people would not think Tesla is an environmental friendly company.
All of this for an AI just worshipping the CEO.
No, fire is converting.
It’s mechanic gives you the shitsler
No, it doesn’t.
Burning anything, creates NOX. this is because there is nitrogen and oxygen in the air, which when exposed to high temperatures causes NOX to form. Hydrogen fuel cells get around this because they don't burn anything, but obviously, a methane turbine does.
roughly Elon's deliveries this quarter in the US
I’m going to challenge you to do the math to figure out how many square miles of solar panels are required to run his data center. Remember to account for the need for over supply to charge batteries and that 1 sq meter of solar cell generates about 1 Kw in a best case scenario.
Yeah, it's also a real mystery why Google Earth still doesn't show full PV on the roofs of -any- Musk properties. Even the flagship dump in Austin has splotchy coverage (although it at least sort of spells out TESLA, so musk can snicker when he flys over it in his Gulfstream). So much environmentalism it's crazy. edit: punctuation
I'm going to challenge you to not be a giant tool.
I know math is hard. Sorry to offend you by asking you to understand the issue.
All electric future indeed. Time to breakout the nuclear reactors, and bump up the effort for nuclear fusion.
Why not so much since the 1980s?
Yeah, but say 34 turbines if better than 35.. so your point matters little.
You’re a tool but to answer your question. - Assuming a large data center that uses 20MW/h - That’s 480MW/h a day or 172.6GW/h a year - Memphis gets 5.2 kWh/m²/day of solar So you would need around 613,000 square meters to power the data center. A typical data center has 35-50k square meters of roof space, assuming you could use 50-70% for solar you would be able to provide 6-10% of the data centers power usage from rooftop solar. A typical American football field is around 5,351 square meters, so you would need around 115 football fields of space to run the data center off solar. That one data center uses about as much power as 16,000 homes, so this says more about the tremendous amount of power required for the data center than it does for solar. Now for comparison, those 16,000 average homes have over 2 million square meters of roof space which using our previous calculations is more than the 613,000 square meters required to provide 20MW/h of power.
IIRC the government outlawed the sale and transfer of them.
Colossus 2 appears to have 220MW of cooling. Power plans are to expand capability to 1.2 Gw (1200 Gw.) Your current numbers are off by a factor of 11x with plans to be off by a factor of 60x. So I may be a tool, but you seem to be the fool. [Analysis of power and plans to get it](https://newsletter.semianalysis.com/p/xais-colossus-2-first-gigawatt-datacenter) The article says 220MW of cooling, but the center will hopefully not be maxed out on that, but the generation numbers are documented better. Using your numbers, the full power capability is the same as 9,600,000 homes. These numbers are on top of Colossus 1 at 300 Mw. I’m also assuming the Mw/Gw ratings for production are based on a full day and not an instantaneous rate which would require a multiplier times hours in a day. In which case my numbers are low.
I’m gonna challenge you to do the math and show the harm all the pollution is causing the people. All the long-term costs and early deaths. At least your username checks out though. Well done.
I’m simply pointing out that solar ends up being impractical for something like this. Building many literal square miles of solar infrastructure to power one building doesn’t work. You need to go with nuclear or reevaluate the data center. (Wind would need a smaller footprint and be more practical than solar also since the land can be dual use then.) I’m very sorry I offended you by trying to get people to do the actual math to understand the underlying issue. But when your ideology doesn’t match reality, and you refuse to realize it, that’s either fanaticism or cult behavior.
One day this moron will be in prison
Shutting down AI databases would be a start.
There’s a yard in Colorado called “Cold War Remarketing” that had some decommissioned tanks for sale a few years ago.
To be fair, it also denies the holocaust.
I never said that solar is viable for a data center, I did the math to conclude you would need to have an area the size of 115 football fields to power a 20MW/h data center; which we both can agree is not realistic. A larger data center just multiplies the absurdity of its power usage. I also made it a point that the problem is not solar, it’s the ridiculous power requirements to run the data centers. I highlighted this fact by taking the data center’s own power requirements and concluding that residential houses that draw the same amount of power would be able to produce excess energy with solar.
That’s not gonna happen, that cat is already out of the bag. But what is there can help speed up R&D of micronized nuclear including nuclear batteries which might make EV and all electric viable, unlike now.
Probably some SO2 in there as well
It must be Grok AI slop coming out of Elon's giant digital muckraker thats making people sick then.
Well not everyone relies on a chatbot to do everything for them.
When the bubble bursts the cat will starve to death.
You can buy .50 BMG rifles that can hit building sized targets from miles away.
I’m amused by all the people who can’t do math but are rah-rah solar power not understanding the limitations and space requirements for it. Look at all the downvotes just because i challenged their ideology and said they should do the math. Then I get called a tool because I did do the math.
Nah, he's too rich for that. He could lose 99.7% of his wealth and still be a Billionaire
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