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Judge sanctions Tesla for 'willful' and 'deliberate' violations in fatal crash lawsuit

Fun_Volume2150 | 2025-10-31 20:41 | 428 views

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SikQuiver 2025-10-31 20:49

Buying calls for Monday, stock will go up 10% on this news

RiseUpAndGetOut 2025-10-31 20:50

4 years since the accident, 3 years in litigation, no result in sight. Nothing will change until the enforcement changes.

BringBackUsenet 2025-10-31 20:56

Let's hope this a precedent that opens the door to others hurt by Tesla and their corrupt management.

wootnootlol 2025-10-31 21:02

1. Any fine from the civil lawsuit is going to slap on the hand compared to enormous wealth of Leon. He'll pay it (after fighting for many years), and then, just for shits, send same amount of money to some stupid cause, just to mock people 2. Any federal criminal charge will be dismissed by DOJ ONLY hope to bring any accountability are state criminal charges, but current administration will likely send military to arrest the judge.

BringBackUsenet 2025-10-31 21:05

They should bring criminal chages for obstruction of justice if nothing else then bring up their attorneys on charges to get them disbarred.

oregon_coastal 2025-10-31 21:11

When those Robotaxis start killing people, I am not sure we have the court capacity to handle what is coming. Here is my called it headline in the near future: "Two die trapped in burning Robotaxi"

wootnootlol 2025-10-31 21:16

DOJ brings criminal charges.

beren12 2025-10-31 21:37

Or states

beren12 2025-10-31 21:37

“Love the car”

Hozntl 2025-10-31 21:45

They really are fucking awful people. And it obviously all stems from Musk. Dickhead.

JiveChicken00 2025-10-31 22:58

So a typical weekday then.

bobi2393 2025-11-01 00:24

2-4 years for an initial decision is normal for big, complex lawsuits, or 5+ years with contentious discovery practices which are typical with Tesla. Add on another year or two for appeals court, and another year or two for the Supreme Court, if it goes that far. Not saying it’s not a problem, but this is normal for a rich, uncooperative defendant like Tesla.

BringBackUsenet 2025-11-01 02:14

Unfortunately it shouldn't take long for your prophecy to come true.

Born-Gur-1275 2025-11-01 04:19

They should just get Musk on the stand. He’ll really piss off the judge.

Talloakster 2025-11-01 05:48

The corporation should face criminal charges if they continue acting this way.

altertuga 2025-11-01 09:31

That's exactly what the commenter you replied to is pointing out. _That_ is the problem.

bobi2393 2025-11-01 09:53

I think of "enforcement" as regulatory agencies like the NHTSA and DOT, which operate independently of the judiciary. And I think it makes sense that they need to change, regardless of the outcome of civil liability trials. Like the NHTSA's Preliminary Evaluation into Tesla's phantom braking issues started in 2022. But you could be right, and I misunderstood the commenter's intent. I don't think the speed of individual civil trials like this will bring about any substantial change at Tesla, as $10 million or $100 million here or there is a drop in Tesla's bucket. But hypothetical class action cases could bring about change with a big enough award to make investors wince. (Probably $10+ billion in Tesla's case).

sambull 2025-11-01 09:56

Tesla has a thing about not opening doors during emergencies

altertuga 2025-11-01 11:19

Right, the best course for such companies is high numbers, but also faster action. Otherwise the decision makers just don't care, as they can cash out and let it burn.

[deleted] 2025-11-01 12:25

Those are the odds. 350 million to 1 - for someone holding them accountable.

wraith_majestic 2025-11-01 13:59

15% without breaking a sweat. Add in a promise of a 30k flying car within a year and 25%!

SikQuiver 2025-11-01 14:05

30k flying cars? That’s it I’m putting a $1000 call 0TDE Monday.

svmonkey 2025-11-01 15:51

Until we start fining corporations a % of revenue for discovery violations, they will keep making them. The other alternatives are to start jailing executives for criminal contempt or to hold the entire corporation in criminal contempt which then shuts down their entire operation for the period of contempt. The current mild sanctions mean the incentives are to flaunt discovery rules.

bthest 2025-11-02 20:48

It's only a complex case because the defendant has a lot more money than the plaintiff.

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