Are stock holders so greedy and blind to miss the fact Elon is a master at pumping the stock, without a healthy (and real) company behind it?
In theory, if enough hedge funds come out against this they should have enough votes. I just don't have faith that they will. They prefer the pumps more than actual shareholder value, which this is horrible for.
An unprecedented bubble of a stock.
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The pay package is exactly for the above reason. They are paying him a trillion dollars to do illegal things. He is getting paid that much to counter the money he is spending in pumping the stock. He’s getting paid that to take care of the politics and back room deals needed to keep the Ponzi scheme running. Since he is using stockholders money basically to pump the stock this makes it a Ponzi scheme where only the people who get out early are the ones getting paid. Given he is also trying to fake it until he makes it, but Tesla can never meet its value now and no future invention is likely to live up to the hype.
Yep, and when it crashes the whole stock market is coming with it
This happened last time for the 55B pay package arc. He got it anyways.
The thing is even if he misses most of his targets, it's still an insane package.
Absolutely not. But they're also aware that most of his wealth is tied to Tesla stock and he's borrowed so heavily against his existing stock that he can't afford to stop pumping it regardless of his pay package. So why dilute your own shares when you don't have to?
Perhaps if Elon calls them TERRORISTS again they will change their minds lol
I mean, if I was a tesla shareholder, I would certainly vote for whatever musk asks, tesla makes cars, but the stock price is based on pixie dust sold by Musk. If Musk stops the grift, it crashes 95%, why would any shareholder want that?
I think a lot of the stockholders are aware that Tesla is a bubble. They are just along for the ride, playing the bigger fool theory. At least until they get the unpleasant new that they are the biggest fools.
Indeed, if you realised the grift you'd sell your shares (and then no longer have a vote) so no one who currently has a vote wants to bring down the house of cards
He's good for the stock because his mythology \*is\* the company. He's bad for the company because his extracurricular activities have scared of the very demographic that purchases what few pieces of junk actually manage to make it to production to keep the charade going. At this point, it's really a no win situtation for Tesla. They are just looking for ways to bleed it dry before all the air escapes the bubble.
It will head to 0. Look how much it lost just from his unloading of shares to buy Xitter.
It's on it's way to becoming like tulipmania, or the crypto bubble.
Which may have been the point all along.
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First read I thought it said they joined Isis, glad Isis is not involved.
Tulipmania is almost entirely myth. The amount of money involved and the number of people affected was quite small. It was much closer to the Beanie Baby fad than the Dotcom Bubble.
This is a great point. Haven’t thought of it. He’s not gonna burn down the house he’s in just out of spite. Although stranger things have happened..
The dizziness will end at some point anyway, the only question is when. Investors therefore need an exit strategy or they will lose billions of dollars. If you are interested in a serious company with organic growth, you should vote for the package and then get out very quickly...
He pumps the stock by buying it with a hedge on his other holdings. The pay package is his liquidity that accounts for about 10% of the hedge should it all go sour. Sadly, there is no regulation here to stop this
You mean dumber things have happened. And yes history does show he's capable of making decisions without advanced thought to their consequences
That trillion is pure dilution of the shareholders shares. Total net income for Tesla 12 months ending June 2025 was less than 6 Billion. That was before their revenue dried up and the name for the consumer sector was damaged. They currently have no material products to earn income. This pay package is equivalent to paying a burger flipper $10,000/hr in hopes they come up with a brilliant condiment arrangement that will revolutionize the food industry.
Why do they hate white people!
Remember folks. $1TN = 20M years @ $50k/year. 20,000,000 years of your labor. Look in the mirror and tell yourself why he is better than you and dont tell us. Because the rest of us don't believe so . He will never care about you or make your life better in any meaningful way
If Musk has a heart attack, the stock goes to 0. If I am a retail investor though I could vote for this and bet on stock getting pumped and hope I can get out in time. Institutions probably would hate this.
not exactly gonna change much for the average american. this giant will just be brought down to our level, reflecting the actual reality for most of us
You’re right, the stock market isn’t the economy. But it is millions of Americans 401k and it’ll also crash the dollar and the actual economy. Honestly I’m not even sure if it’s a bad thing or not, it might be the only way to get Americans attention and decide to remove the orange fuck and his fascist regime
This is just a straight comedy listening to you guys be so mad at musk…so hilarious
kinda feels like an inevitable thing, honestly. i know it would suck for me, but i think its something i want my kids not to deal with, so i would see it more as a good thing in the long-term
The thought that we can build a better country after this wholesale destruction is what keeps me going
as pessimistic as times like this are, i genuinely believe it. there's a lot to be optimistic for even in the darkest topics of today if you know where to look.
The irony of Tesla is that Elon gives it the share value, but also is taking it completely off the rails as well. It is a car company trying to be anything other than a car company that is neglecting its core business.
Yes, they only have to leave the boat before everyone else does it and call the top, ez.
No robots if baby Elon doesn’t get his company
Me, fapping to tranny porn and microdosing anxiety while I sit on my couch for 8 hours a day: "Yeah! He's no better than me!"
Elon's sentient flyign cars are going to change everything.
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