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Safety stands exist for a reason

homoiconic | 2025-10-16 21:12 | 386 views

A tweet from Elon Musk that reads, "The wife of a friend of mine was killed by an illegal trucker who wasn't qualified to drive. Safety standards exist for a reason."

Comments (160)
winfredjj 2025-10-16 21:13

he has no friends though. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Status_Ad_4405 2025-10-16 21:14

Your cars drive like they're drunk but ok, dude

BringBackUsenet 2025-10-16 21:17

Then why aren't those standards enforced against Tesla and its Full Reckless Driving?

BringBackUsenet 2025-10-16 21:17

Only until they go up in flames.

CompoteDeep2016 2025-10-16 21:17

Please invent a time machine, and save that woman by taking her seat Thank you

babypho 2025-10-16 21:18

Didn't Mitch McConnell's sister in law died when her Tesla reversed into a pond and she couldn't roll down the window? She had time to call the folks inside the house and said her goodbyes as the water filled up.

Fishy_Fish_WA 2025-10-16 21:23

Some cars exist only to be a cause for new safety regulations

xVAMPIREGENERALx 2025-10-16 21:23

Didn't he also propose the of gutting all regulations So what is it Elon?

FrogsFloatToo 2025-10-16 21:23

You can easily tell he's just making shit up when he says "friend of mine"

HistoricalFill7257 2025-10-16 21:27

Just remind me how many people have been burned alive in Tesla with door handles that didn’t open or were killed by cars on FSD?

Madder_Than_Diogenes 2025-10-16 21:27

That friend was ketamine. The whispers it told him that night were wild I tell you.

Pdx_pops 2025-10-16 21:27

And hard to believe that anybody who would be friends with him would be married

sneaky-pizza 2025-10-16 21:29

And lock you inside during the fire

Crumbbsss 2025-10-16 21:29

Yet my hw3 intel car still drives dangerously. Safety standards that apparently don't apply to his own software.

AffectionateSize552 2025-10-16 21:30

That's right, because of things like his well-known utter contempt for the safety standards meant to protect his employees, his customers, innocent bystanders, or anyone else.

DazzlingPoppie 2025-10-16 21:30

With people inside.

RocketLabBeatsSpaceX 2025-10-16 21:30

They do? Then why is he still lying about the capability of his cars and getting people killed? Damn hypocrite is virtue signaling again.

crazy0ne 2025-10-16 21:31

"You don't know her, she drives in Canada."

interpol-interpol 2025-10-16 21:32

illegal trucker is so funny

laserdisk4life 2025-10-16 21:34

DOGE has ended all investigations into Tesla

rdu3y6 2025-10-16 21:34

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blue-mooner 2025-10-16 21:34

_Friend_ here means _”person I once met”_

Aggravating-Curve755 2025-10-16 21:35

Didn't people burn alive inside a Tesla because the handles wouldn't open?

Ill-Egg4008 2025-10-16 21:36

There’s even an on going lawsuit against Tesla about this. (At least one that I know of anyway.) I hope they use this tweet against Tesla in court.

yeezusosa 2025-10-16 21:37

Huh

TerranOPZ 2025-10-16 21:37

Is this a true story?

AdvantagePractical31 2025-10-16 21:38

Wait what

Ifailedaccounting 2025-10-16 21:38

I think she was drunk and drove into the lake

TOPLEFT404 2025-10-16 21:38

'Friend of Mine' he accuses blacks of violence and points out names of people. Why not just say **WHOM that friend is?**

that_dutch_dude 2025-10-16 21:38

how does the immigraton status change the operation of safety systems in a car?

Ok-ChildHooOd 2025-10-16 21:39

Every time he refers to his friend, I know he's lying.

RosieDear 2025-10-16 21:39

Is he really that sick (in the head)? Like the highest fatality rates? Like his entire career is built on NOT following the standards. That's why his cars...meet NO standards for self-driving.

RosieDear 2025-10-16 21:41

Somewhere someone was killed by someone who had an expired license - also, people were killed in accidents with Politicians who drank too much. People have been killed by every type of person!

PatchyWhiskers 2025-10-16 21:41

Yes but she wasn’t unconscious and was able to call for help. But because the cars are death traps she could not be saved. https://apnews.com/article/angela-chao-dies-mitch-mcconnell-03f040a0ca93396a8adebc293d94f98e

Bay_Brah 2025-10-16 21:42

Why did you post it twice

Astral-projekt 2025-10-16 21:43

The irony

[deleted] 2025-10-16 21:46

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Boundish91 2025-10-16 21:48

I know right. Elon and his ilk are so hypocritical all the time.

[deleted] 2025-10-16 21:50

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mattatwork_ 2025-10-16 21:50

HOW DOES HE SAY THESE THINGS WITH NO IRONY?!

ayannauriel 2025-10-16 21:53

Says the head of the company with the cars that will lock you inside as the burn.

InternationalBig9105 2025-10-16 21:54

Sheesh, the people on this thread are full of hatred. Elon is likely talking about J.B Straubel.

Dependent-Fig-2517 2025-10-16 21:54

and how many have his work practices and poor quality control killed ?

[deleted] 2025-10-16 21:54

"I want to get married and have 100 kids so I can have 100 friends and no one can say 'no' to being my friend."

InternationalBig9105 2025-10-16 21:54

Likely J.B straubel.

InternationalBig9105 2025-10-16 21:55

Someone who is an immigrant may not be able to read road signs…are you dumb?

InternationalBig9105 2025-10-16 21:55

Someone who is an immigrant may not be able to understand road signs…are you dumb?

dsmith422 2025-10-16 21:55

All federal investigations. California and maybe other states are still investigating it.

dsmith422 2025-10-16 21:56

You forgot the "Sir."

InternationalBig9105 2025-10-16 21:56

You are full of hatred and lies. What evidence do you have that Elon is lying?

Too-Em 2025-10-16 21:56

"Safety standards exist for a reason" Me every time a another Tesla autopilot causes a crash, or a cybertruck incinerates its occupants.

umbananas 2025-10-16 21:59

Wait. I thought he hates regulations. 🤷‍♂️

Dog_From_Malta 2025-10-16 21:59

His lips moved.

Best-Problem-9888 2025-10-16 22:00

Things that happened on a tesla test track for $500

InternationalBig9105 2025-10-16 22:00

You are just full of hatred.

cinred 2025-10-16 22:00

I'm sure the business owner employing these ill-trained and illegal drivers will surely be dragged into court any day now.

Bay_Brah 2025-10-16 22:01

2 slides, one image, one post

art-is-t 2025-10-16 22:03

Isn't Elon himself an illegal ?

SC_W33DKILL3R 2025-10-16 22:04

He is so lacking in self awareness. What is it Elmo, deregulate or regulate. Enforce driving standard or just lie about the capabilities of FSD.

fuckswithboats 2025-10-16 22:07

Who's he? The illegal who's killed dozens of people with his shitty software?? That doesn't count, when they say illegal they are actually referring to skin tone

ZeroSkribe 2025-10-16 22:09

Tragically, a wife of a friend was also killed by a legal trucker who was qualified to drive. Inspections exist for a reason.

Lyf3_Dk 2025-10-16 22:09

"But Jan, you don't have any friends."

Birthday-Tricky 2025-10-16 22:10

Was this trucker driving a Cyber Truck?

DAL1979 2025-10-16 22:10

Once met, because no-one wants to meet him a second time.

that_dutch_dude 2025-10-16 22:11

from personal experience i know for a fact that even people that are born in the US cant read signs so thats irrelevant.

[deleted] 2025-10-16 22:11

Wouldn't it be cool if people send him this with a link to every news article where Teslas killed someone?

Zealousideal_Draw924 2025-10-16 22:12

Who? Name names? More bullshit from Elmo.

angryvetguy 2025-10-16 22:15

Nazi says what?

Serialtoon 2025-10-16 22:25

Bro is literally here illegally selling cars that kill people. I wonder if he’s talking about himself 😂

morty-vicar 2025-10-16 22:29

The shaving mirror must coma as a shock every morning, might explain some of the facial damage he seems to have done to himself, that and his ketamine abuse.

Demonshaker 2025-10-16 22:30

removing "an illegal" makes 0 effective change to the statement.

Available_Agent_8839 2025-10-16 22:31

How about getting burned alive b/c Tesla didnt properly design rear door manual releases where they should be.

[deleted] 2025-10-16 22:35

The equivalent of "Im not racist I have a friend who knows a black guy" Fuck this bloated racist turd.

mrbuttsavage 2025-10-16 22:35

He's definitely talking about JB Straubel here. That said, the roads of America are filled to the brim with licensed drivers that aren't qualified to drive. This asshole himself was an illegal immigrant who wrecked a McLaren.

[deleted] 2025-10-16 22:42

It’s your standard billionaire hypocrisy, standards and rules for thee but not for me.

Youngnathan2011 2025-10-16 22:44

Meanwhile doesn’t care about safety with the companies he “runs”, and actively encourages them to be unsafe

AbleDanger12 2025-10-16 22:46

The guy who is implementing "Mad Max" mode in his beta software that is being tested on an unwitting public has no leg to stand on regarding safety standards.

Lankx183 2025-10-16 22:49

Fucking liar, he's has no friends lol

Engunnear 2025-10-16 22:53

Which time?

Dog_From_Malta 2025-10-16 23:00

? There is no "hatred" in facts. Just the cold, immutable omnipresence of reality.

Robo-X 2025-10-16 23:05

Or person I paid to be my friend.

plug_play 2025-10-16 23:18

Haha

plug_play 2025-10-16 23:18

Anything can happen in the k-hole

Aggravating-Curve755 2025-10-16 23:21

[cybertruck fire](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15166051/amp/College-student-burned-alive-inside-Tesla-Cybertruck-doors-locked-shut-vehicle-burst-flames-leaving-trapped.html)

Aggravating-Curve755 2025-10-16 23:22

[or this one ](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-cybertruck-lawsuit-driver-burned-bones-disintegrated-b2771728.html)

Aggravating-Curve755 2025-10-16 23:24

Stolen from another redditor - Tesla are way worse than the Pinto....which famously caused 27 deaths out of a fleet of 3.1 million cars produced. Lifetime TSLA is around 6 million produced with 83 fire deaths counted. Did I mention the Pinto fires were a half century ago? People throw out stats about vehicle fires...stats that are aggregated by fire departments that log a 'fire' everytime they roll out to put douse a small engine fire in an '82 Nova that had a fuel line rust through...but what about dealy fires? The NFPA says the US averages 579 deaths a year...TSLA had 28 deaths in 2023 - almost 5% of all fire deaths, while the TSLA fleet (I estimate 3.5 million on US Roads) is 1.2%. And that will surely get worse as the TSLA fleet ages and gets mechanically less sound, and the used/beaters end up in the hands of more risk taking demographics. The fact that its so bad with a fleet so young is sobering. Its a genuine issue - obfuscated by bs stats over generic 'fires', and alot of heads stuck in the sand. There are solutions - retardent built into the pack, a nice thick sheet of steel betwen the pack and occupants would be great, easy to find and operate manual door handles of course (both inside and out), and even changes in battery chemistry.

M_V_Agrippa 2025-10-16 23:26

So stupid. That car had manual door releases. She committed suicide. Stop blaming a car for that

beren12 2025-10-16 23:27

You’re funny. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

beren12 2025-10-16 23:28

K. Etamine.

Lacrewpandora 2025-10-16 23:28

Cool story bro. Like Elon really has friends...

beren12 2025-10-16 23:28

A bunch of native born Americans certainly can’t by the way they drive.

Select_Asparagus3451 2025-10-16 23:29

Every finger pointed with these guys. The billionaires are the worst offenders.

beren12 2025-10-16 23:31

Was?

Brave_Quantity_5261 2025-10-16 23:36

Ha you know he’s lying. he doesn’t have any friends.

Gildardo1583 2025-10-16 23:50

That rear door manual release is so easy to get to?

AccurateMidnight21 2025-10-16 23:52

You can pull that manual release lever all you want, the pressure of the water against the car door will prevent you from opening it. You can’t open a car door under water until the pressure equalizes on both sides. The average person doesn’t know that or think about that in a moment of panic. If you live near water, carry an emergency hammer in the car with you at all times so that you can break a window and let the pressure equalize faster, so that you can get out. Teslas emergency release design is also absolutely awful, which is why they themselves have admitted they are in the process of redesigning it. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/18/business/telsa-door-handle-redesign?cid=ios_app

eclwires 2025-10-16 23:54

Yep.

M_V_Agrippa 2025-10-16 23:55

Nope, front door of a mx, not rear door of a model 3/y. The door handle is manual. Since this is reddit, it's just like your Mazda or Toyota.

Mr-Zappy 2025-10-16 23:58

How many people have died in his cars because they couldn’t get the doors open in an emergency? I installed manual release pull cords for the back doors on my Model Y. I thought I knew how to do it because I looked it up in the manual in advance. However, I also needed YouTube (because the manual is wrong), a screwdriver, a headlamp, and several minutes. How would I (or a kid) have gotten it open in an emergency?

Flight808 2025-10-17 00:02

Thank you. From the report: "Chao, 50, died the night of Feb. 10 after having dinner with a large group at a ranch near Johnson City, west of Austin. The report describes a frantic scene as friends and deputies tried to pull Chao from her Tesla after she backed it into the pond near a guest lodge on the property. A friend, Amber Keinan, told detectives that Chao called her at 11:42 p.m. and said the car was in the water and she was trapped inside. The conversation lasted 8 minutes as the car slowly sank. Chao told Keinan the water was rising and she was going to die and said ‘I love you,’” the report says. “Chao then said her good byes to Keinan."

sadicarnot 2025-10-17 00:20

Kind of rich from the guy whose factories have the worst safety records in their industries.

Desperate-Hearing-55 2025-10-17 00:22

Says the drug addicted ketamine person. ***"49 percent of Tesla Model 3s failed their first inspections last year, along with 16 percent of Tesla Model S vehicles and 14 percent of Tesla Model Xs. The other cars in the list of top 5 flunkers were Renault Zoe (19%) and Porsche Taycan (12%)."*** Safety standards seems don't exist in Tesla Model 3. [https://yle.fi/a/74-20186654](https://yle.fi/a/74-20186654)

TheInternetsLOL 2025-10-17 00:30

The annoying thing is, you know he made up this bullshit story of his. he has no friends. Lying piece of shit as usual.

Fit-Dentist6093 2025-10-17 00:33

Also fucking their wives.

[deleted] 2025-10-17 00:50

Said by someone selling vehicle that is basically a death trap

hashswag00 2025-10-17 01:17

Says the guy claiming FSD works and doesn't drive off the road, hit things, or travel the wrong direction. Faux Self Driving

mrbuttsavage 2025-10-17 01:32

He was an illegal immigrant. He still is, but he used to be too.

BringBackUsenet 2025-10-17 01:32

And they are taking their sweet time. This guy should have been prosecuted 10-15 years ago.

GarysCrispLettuce 2025-10-17 01:42

This is almost certainly a 100% lie

Ok_Subject1265 2025-10-17 02:20

Ironically, the wife of a friend of mine was killed by an immigrant who tried to advertise the cars his company made as self driving, but what they actually do is crash into things like my friends wife and then lock the occupants inside so they can be immolated by an inextinguishable lithium fire.

Gildardo1583 2025-10-17 02:27

That's why I pointed out the rear doors. It's not like Mazda or Toyota. You have to dig into the door in order to pull a string to manually open the door.

M_V_Agrippa 2025-10-17 02:33

You'll find that in five years, most cars will use electric releases with backup cable releases that may or may not be accessible. Lexus is already doing it.

Curious-Paper1690 2025-10-17 02:35

The fact that of all people, Elon is preaching safety standards is the most hypocritical thing I’ve seen this year. So far.

Remarkable-Diet-7732 2025-10-17 02:37

What about all the deaths caused by "FSD"?? Fuck off, Elon.

beren12 2025-10-17 02:48

Calm down Mitch :-)

Gildardo1583 2025-10-17 02:52

I see a reverse in that trend. As more incidents of people getting trapped in their cars, it will pressure regulating agencies to make a manual release mandatory.

relaxyourshoulders 2025-10-17 03:24

Or in any of their factories

goranlepuz 2025-10-17 03:55

It rather looks like "qualified", not **"illegal"** is the more relevant element in this case. But since he wrote this to pile hate on illegals, no, actually, it isn't, huh? I can't say whether he is stupid, or a vile manipulator, or both. He can fuck off.

goranlepuz 2025-10-17 03:59

>She committed suicide. Sorry, what now?! This is so necessary.

Pixel91 2025-10-17 04:55

Is this friend in the room with us right now, Elon?

cseckshun 2025-10-17 05:06

He’s lost the border between “stuff I saw online” and “my own lived firsthand experiences with real people”. Now he remembers or presents things he read on Twitter as if they happened to a close personal friend of his because that’s the only way it makes sense how much stock he puts in these random stories and posts on social media. Joe Rogan has had a few moments like this where it’s clear he is talking about something he saw online but he presents it as if it’s from a more organic and trustworthy source than a tweet or a meme he saw. Rogan said it about the schoolteacher talking about the litter boxes in classrooms, he either pretended or convinced himself that it was actually someone he knew who had told him the story instead of it just being a Facebook meme he saw and that fit his own internal narrative and worldview so well that he couldn’t even engage with it logically to think that it might be a fabrication or think that maybe it was misrepresented or exaggerated in some way potentially. Not sure what’s worse, that these people are purposefully trying to lie and say it’s stories from friends instead of online posts… or if they actually believe and are confused about whether something like this is a meme they saw online or if it’s a story someone told them on a podcast or at dinner or something. Speaks to a blending of our actual real lives and online content we view though, our brains are probably not well suited to read a bunch of potentially fake stories online on social media and then properly differentiate them and treat them differently than the stories our close friends and family tell us (probably sometimes also in text format so we might be reading them on the same devices we are reading stories off of social media).

damngoodengineer 2025-10-17 05:19

His Cybertruck was not allowed to be sold in Europe, is he fucking kidding us?

RatkeA 2025-10-17 06:09

He has no friends

ianishomer 2025-10-17 06:17

So much concern for safety standards, but then can't make his Cyberskip get anywhere near EU safety standards.

Wonderful-Group3639 2025-10-17 07:17

There's even a website dedicated to it with reports archived on a spreadsheet: [https://www.tesla-fire.com](https://www.tesla-fire.com)

WombatShwambat 2025-10-17 07:21

Releases Mad Max mode for Not Full Self Drive that ignores the speed limit

hxl004 2025-10-17 07:47

Elon doesn’t have any friends

NotYourAvgBoomer 2025-10-17 08:24

His FSD acts like a drunk teenager coming from a sorority party.

Secondchance002 2025-10-17 08:37

We know this because person in question was somewhat connected to power. Now imagine how many normal folks this Nazi pedo has killed.

Ok-Bill3318 2025-10-17 10:30

Indicator stalks are standard UI for a reason. As demonstrated by the many teslas I see every day indicating the opposite way

Wellokaythendear 2025-10-17 10:43

Wow I’m going to hell for laughing at this.

Schlawinuckel 2025-10-17 11:28

His kids are already saying No!

[deleted] 2025-10-17 11:34

Understandable and good for them.

The_JSC 2025-10-17 12:17

I call BS on this. I don't think he really has friends.

Secret-Revolution172 2025-10-17 13:56

Yet this shit stock again is up today. Holding my TSLQ strong. May I burn in Valhalla

Emotional_Goal9525 2025-10-17 14:15

Bitch please. You don't have any friends.

Emotional_Goal9525 2025-10-17 14:17

You wouldn't believe it if you saw that in a movie.

TerranOPZ 2025-10-17 14:41

You have no evidence he's telling truth. He literally lies about everything. You can't take his word for anything.

EnderAlexander 2025-10-17 14:45

Such a sad little boy Michael Scott was.

Ashamed_Data430 2025-10-17 14:53

Uh, Elon. Low earth orbit. That's all I'm saying. (Well, that and, you have no actual friends. Those are just hangers-on, grateful for any billionaire crumbs that fall off your clothes.)

Zlimness 2025-10-17 15:15

Driving illegally means you don't have a driver's license. Could your 'autonomous' software pass a driving test?

SeveralPrinciple5 2025-10-17 17:16

Is this the man whose car doors are so difficult to operate after a collision that people get burned alive when they could have escaped had there been any safety standards considered in the design? Asking for a friend.

transsolar 2025-10-17 18:28

Oh he's going to flip out when he sees Tesla factories

[deleted] 2025-10-17 21:44

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DhOnky730 2025-10-18 00:40

He proposes regulations don't matter, that you should be able to plow through them and just be able to pay fines to cover your tracks. At least that's his argument with the recent twenty labor violations with the Boring Co. Additionally, just what he's considering an "illegal trucker?" Most American companies can't legally hire someone without some documentation, and this isn't a position that's a cash-type job. And is Elon going to analyze the other 119 people that statistically died in traffic deaths today? How many were due to Tesla FSD, ASD, or getting trapped in a burning car? How many were due to sleepy drivers? How many were due to people being on their cell-phones because the penalties/laws aren't enforced? I can go on. Yes, what he's saying is a tragedy, and I don't want to downplay that. But lots also really bring attention to the other 119. Actually more are statistically killed by gunshots each day, and more than double by drug use. In rural areas smoking seems especially high. How many die each day?

deejaymc 2025-10-18 02:53

And what? You're out here defending it against people calling it a shitty design? You must be a genius.

automatic__jack 2025-10-18 03:39

“friend of mine” lolol

Almost_Sentient 2025-10-18 12:02

An infinite array of Elon Musks given infinite resources couldn't invent an original design in Lego. Your only hope is for there to be a time machine start-up for him to buy then pretend to be a founder of.

logicnotemotion 2025-10-18 15:13

I think I know his train of thought. Not that I agree with it, but it seems to me he is ok with casualties as long as they help with the progression of technology. He sees the Tesla passenger fatalities as being for the greater good because the data helps make the tech better in the long run. He sees no progression or advancement from an untrained trucker accident. If it were an autonomous truck, he would probably have a different viewpoint.

coulombis 2025-10-18 15:54

Just like Trumpie’s, “people say”.

jaimi_wanders 2025-10-18 15:59

And exploding rockets… It’s going to happen, and it’s going to be horrific, when the consequences of ignoring past best practices catch up. They lucked out in Texas with the lack of a flame diverter, and “just” had mass destruction & contamination but no deaths, but luck always runs out.

coulombis 2025-10-18 16:42

Maybe he has an imaginary friend. He probably is schizophrenic which could explain a lot about his behavior.

Brilliant-Lettuce544 2025-10-18 20:14

what do you mean? this is it. FSD V14 is it. Only a few more months till cybercab launches then the autonomous robot then robo van. Tesla to the moon. This definitely isnt all just a scam

Flat-Gear7212 2025-10-18 20:48

He never said that. Stop making up stuff lmao

ADiviner-2020 2025-10-19 09:52

Going to have a bigger career fallout than Elizabeth Holmes from Theranos, being the first company in human history to murder innocent people with AI on America's public roads.

fuckdirectv 2025-10-20 05:34

As soon as I saw "friend of mine" I knew it was made up.

ProfessionalTwo5476 2025-10-20 22:58

Fake. You have no friends.

Tiggerbeeman 2025-10-22 17:17

You say this but your cars malfunction and people have died. Sounds like you are guilty as well

LWBoogie 2025-10-23 03:17

Real, it was JB Straubel's wife. She was out for a bike ride.

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