Despite Elon Musk’s public statements that Tesla was getting “regulatory permission” to launch a robotaxi service in the Bay Area, the company had yet to apply for any of the needed permits to do so. Instead, the service that Tesla eventually did launch was in vehicles with safety drivers behind the wheel to invite-only customers. Perplexed state transportation officials asked Tesla’s policy representatives whether they could help clear up “public confusion” about the launch, according to the emails obtained by Reuters. Tesla’s reply was to avoid the question entirely, saying only that the company’s policy was not to respond to questions from the press. Which makes a ton of sense when responding to a question from a government official in charge of overseeing the safe rollout of autonomous vehicles. Read more: [https://www.theverge.com/news/783804/tesla-robotaxi-california-dmv-confusion](https://www.theverge.com/news/783804/tesla-robotaxi-california-dmv-confusion)
When a company won't talk to the press and answer questions, that's always a good sign. Stock up 12%.
Hey - if gaslighting customers and "investors" has gotten them to a $1.36T market cap, why *not* see where gaslighting the government gets them?
If only regulators had the power to do something about it.
Well, yeah. Part of why he wanted to Doge us was to get rid of pesky govt oversight and regulations. So ignoring state and local govt seems right up his dark alleyway
They've sent at least a dozen strongly worded letters, and Tesla hasn't done anything!
Ah, the Chuck Schumer approach.
How's all that passive income coming along Tesla owners? Drowning in all that money? Along with your FSD that was promised to be just around the corner over a decade ago? 😅
That narrative shift... 2017-2023: we would totally be operating robotaxi fleet if not for those pesky regulators 2025: lol whats wrong regulators? Don't like robotaxi? Take it up with the orange man
I became a lot more cynical a few years back when I suddenly realized that *not* solving problems is very effective when your real goal is political fundraising.
lol, good one
>and Tesla hasn't done anything Not even a poop emoji response?
Or how congress started doing temporary funding, at least initially, to see if certain programs produced the desired results. Quickly they realized that by threatening not to renew the funding (even on proven programs) was a great way to bring in the lobbying cash.
I choose to believe that Tesla spams every regulatory agency with poop emoji messages every day, and this response just got lost in the shuffle.
If I don't don't apply for any permits, you can't deny me, gotcha.
Well, yes... those are some of the problems to which I was referring.
Tesla is only claiming to have robotaxis vs actually having them in California. That's merely corporate puffery for the share price and now that the SEC no longer functionally exists, Elon's free to claim his Optimus robots have cured cancer and will soon be available for $50k if you buy a founder's edition w/ $1k down non-refundable for his next grift. They'll multiply the reservation confirmation #s by 300 and next thing you know, people will claim there are 600M pre-orders which will further hype up the price.
As long as Tesla doesn't run any test cars without a driver (they're only picking up employees), they're not breaking the law so other than their lying to investors (the nonfunctional SEC's turf), so until someone gets hit by a robotaxi, everything is "by the book".
deep down they know they're not even close technology wise so why bother applying for a permit which would get rejected
If you have no permit, you can't lose it! \- REGULATORS HATE THIS TRICK! Remember: Its not driving - its TRAVELING ;) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIsTfEEv0ag](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIsTfEEv0ag)
Meanwhile Waymo does most things by the book and is a way better alternative to robotaxis in Austin.
probably will get them upto $5T market cap.
Because it's all a con. No point wasting time applying for permits if it is just a con, got lots of other cons to do.
There is no definition of much of the stuff Leon says - he relies on that. Giga? Cyber? Mega? Robotaxi? Full-Self-Driving? There are good reasons he doesn't use things like "level 4 SAE". Most of you know why....but it is really strange that millions of certain types of Tesla fans and some others don't even think this far! They probably think "He invented the Robotaxi" and so on. Since there is no definition, we can say he DID invent it. The words.
It will hit at least 500. Elon is pumping the stock with option manipulation and there is no one to stop him at the SEC and or Trump won’t let them prosecute him. That picture of the two of the at the memorial event is telling. I doubt it crashes until the AI bubble bursts.
Literally at $430 after 3 robotaxi crashes here in Austin in the last week There's no making sense of a meme stock
Borrowing a comment from another post. 1. Announce an idea. 2. ????? 3. Profit. Except they're skipping step 2 now.
>*not* solving problems is very effective when your real goal is political fundraising. Or even better, actively make them worse and blame it on the other side.
Our tax dollars pumped into SpaceX hard at work.
If they ignore it happened did it really happen? 🤔
fix autowipe
Reddit army at work. Todays topic is tesla confusing regulators, well for once they are confused because I have seen how they confuse Citizens. If you dont believe try to start a business in camifornia. 1. To regulators - If its illegal , arrest them otherwise figure out your job. 2. To all Key board warriors - If you think its a meme stock then short TSLA.
Why dont you short it ?
Today my 6 year old model X 2019 drove me for 25 miles without any intervention. If you dont use FSD you will never know
Why dont you short TSLA ? You seems to have good knowledge about market.
I bet he'd pull down his glasses to the tip of his for this one.... 🙄
Did that get you on the high score list? Sick.
There are no safety score thing anymore. Read more and do better
The USA still has regulators??? That's news to me!
Because shorting a meme stock propped up by idiots is a foolish idea?
[https://www.perplexity.ai/finance/TSLA/holders](https://www.perplexity.ai/finance/TSLA/holders) Check top holders some of them might be owning your 401K too. Good idea to liquidate all stocks/401K which is owned by Vanguard/Blackrock/Goldman/Morgan Stanley , oh wait.
Exactly
Worked for Trump with COVID! Big /s
Also... 2017-2023: Tesla can just push a button and have millions of robotaxis, they have more data! 2025: well obviously Tesla needs to have safety drivers and a geo fence, what did you expect?
Are you at least getting paid to spam this nonsense? Your comment history is astroturfy.
Same question to Reddit army who loves to hate Tesla.
Didn't Musk promise a nationwide roll out before the end of the month? Not even close? Stock goes up
Is the robotaxi service in the room with us right now?
And Mars next year! Oh wait!? Starship still hasn't even left LEO. How people - and I'll admit I was one of them until the cave-sub incident - haven't seen through his grift, constant lies and exaggerations is beyond me. The Muskrat fanboi base is something truly to behold
plus a special build that is 'six months' ahead of the fleet.
my HW4 Model Y drove me 1000 miles to Bellingham. Still can't trust it enough to sleep while driving tho, which is what Elon needs to deliver by the end of the year now.
> short TSLA way ahead of ya
Try that in a slightly smaller town
Because the market isn’t behaving rationally, expecting that to suddenly change would be foolish.
You do realize that the reason that Blackrock et all is holding that much stock has nothing to do with the stock itself - they are selling structured products based on the market index.
How about regulator (DMV) will do their job and regulate. I am sure Tesla starts responding questions after DMV stops issuing plates to Teslas and start seizing permitless Robotaxis.
The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.
Are we the new flat earthers?
Why apply for permits when Musk know it will be denied. Just sell the news. Peoples are stupid enough to buy it.
No. He doesn’t realize. Dumbasses will argue Tesla will be worth trillions in a few years because the Optimus sexbots will blow you away
Stevie Wonder could see the flaw in that logic
Since he was reelected I would say it did work out. Makes no sense but worked for him
Just start fining them $10 million a day. I bet they work that out real fast.
[https://www.plainsite.org/documents/28jcs0/california-dmv-tesla-robotaxi--fsd-notes/](https://www.plainsite.org/documents/28jcs0/california-dmv-tesla-robotaxi--fsd-notes/) **2021** (page 7) >Notwithstanding other public messaging from Tesla about developing vehicles capable of full driving automation, **Tesla reiterated** that the City Streets **feature is** currently a Society of Automotive Engineers **(SAE) level two (2) Advanced Driver-Assistance feature** and that Tesla will continue to monitor how participants interact with the feature and make improvements. >As mentioned in your December 14, 2020 correspondence and per California regulations, **should** Tesla develop technology features **characterized** as **SAE level 3** or higher, Tesla will seek the appropriate regulatory permitting from the DMV before autonomous vehicles are operated on public roads. FSD is only **SAE level 2**
You mean the Robotaxis are all Schroedingers Cars?
Well, at least this „Reddit Army“ that you imagine has facts and arguments. You only have uncritical following of a Nazi to brag about.
I’ve referred to it as Schrödinger’s Autonomy on more than one occasion.
So much this. The narrative always changes to show Tesla in the best light.
You mean poop emojis don't count?
If they wanted to, they could shut everything down, but they won’t. Bought and paid for
Not just the press, they don't even talk to regulators: >...a senior state transportation official asked the Tesla employee whether the company would clear up the “public confusion.” The staffer did not directly respond, saying only that **Tesla does not answer media inquiries** and that customers would receive information when available.
>Tesla’s robotaxi push is confusing the hell out of regulators I guess they didn't watch the Optimus launch event.
It's easier to pump the stock if you just SAY you're running a robotaxi service while simply running a taxi service without permits.
So they have no regulatory approval - prosecute them??
One presumes that they're just going to start running them and dare cities to do anything about it.
So what you're saying here is "If you think that Musk is committing fraud to pump up his share price and there is nobody that can do anything about it since Trump neutered the SEC, then why don't you bet short the stock that is being pumped up and nobody can do anything about?" I have to assume you use text to speech because otherwise you must be typing with one hand over your eyes and the other in your pants.
Of course he wants that $1trillion bonus from Tesla
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