Volkswagen EVs Outsell Tesla in Europe a Decade After Dieselgate

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It's just a shame that VW price range is too high compare to what they offer.

While I think EVs are generally too expensive, I don't see VW being worse than other OEMs.

That's every VW, you can get a better and more luxurious car from France, Korea, or Japan and having the benefit of not having to deal with a car from the VAG group

Well when you sell a ID7 Tourer starting at 58K up to 75K.... I think that's very pricey for what they offer [https://www.volkswagen.fr/fr/configurateur.html/\_\_app/id-7-tourer.app?---=%7B%22configuration-step-navigation-service%22%3A%22%2F%3FconfigStep%3D%257B%2522context%2522%253A%252230560-35095-ID.7%2BTourer%2BPro%2522%252C%2522selectedStep%2522%253A%2522trim%2522%257D%22%7D](https://www.volkswagen.fr/fr/configurateur.html/__app/id-7-tourer.app?---=%7B%22configuration-step-navigation-service%22%3A%22%2F%3FconfigStep%3D%257B%2522context%2522%253A%252230560-35095-ID.7%2BTourer%2BPro%2522%252C%2522selectedStep%2522%253A%2522trim%2522%257D%22%7D)

Yup. Actually I'm aiming for a BYD Seal. When you look at the comfort and the autonomy for the price, it's a pretty good deal.

I have a Seal. Autonomy is a nothing-burger just like any other car (LKA and Radar cruise effectively). Comfort and performance though? Stellar. I've done several long trips in mine and I originally cross-shopped it with a BMW i4.

In the Netherlands BYD basically took over most senior Tesla staff in their approach for growth.

>flagging consumer interest in battery-powered autos \[...\] driven by a 38% gain in global EV deliveries from the previous year Make up your god-damn mind. Do people not want EVs or are they buying them so quickly it's up nearly 40%? ***Anyway*** It should be noted the VW Brand on it's own has now outsold Tesla, but in terms of cars sold for the entire group, Tesla has almost always been in third place behind Stellantis and VAG respectively. Likewise, this is only counting electric vehicle sales; if you lump in "traditional" cars into the mix (Diesel and Petrol), Tesla barely makes a blip in Europe outside of a few months where one model might be the best selling car in the region, and even those figures are called into question because they'll deliver one quarter's worth of cars in a single month and report the figures as if they were for, say, June only. It's all really scummy.

So, what are the cheaper alternatives? Everything else in that segment is way more expensive.

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That's not an answer. We have the BMW i5 Tourer and the Audi A6 e-tron Avant in the same segment. That's it. Both cost way more.

Well, this is an answer, I don't have the exact model who can offer the same range for cheaper. But definitely BYD can do it with the Seal Design, for cheaper.

There is no BYD Seal estate.

I don't get why they keep s*iting on Herbert, if it weren't for him they would be in a worse place now.

In this case the Sealion7.

Are you just naming random cars now? That's an SUV. Also has less range and isn't actually much cheaper. Maybe just accept that your original premise was wrong.

European EVs are pretty great. I love the Škoda Enyaq

I don't think that is true at all.

You can say shitting on the internet, we won't tell mummy

Don't know, man. Got banned from subs for less.

When I scroll down to the related posts there's one from 4 months ago saying: Volkswagen Overtakes Tesla As Europe's Top EV Seller So, doesn't seem like news to me. Then again let's just keep recycling the bad news and eventually the penny will drop.

There really isn't any. ID.7 is a big car, in that segment it's probably the cheapest electric estate you can buy. The 75K is for the AWD GTX variant with the larger battery. We are missing a C-segment electric estate market, off the top of my head the only one I can think of is the Opel Astra but it doesn't really have the legs you want for an estate.