Is Tesla Going Out Of Business?

So what, tesla stock doesn't care. I hate it

Teslas main business is getting investors to vastly overpay for their stock, and that business appears to be still going strong.

Just imagine how high the stock will be if they go out of business!

Don't forget baseless hype, see hyperloop, mars colony, etc

You mean the fast food industry darling? No way!

Lol whaat? Haha I‘m bearish on the stock, but they won‘t go out of business…

Baseless hype is a major part of how they manage to make investors pay so much.

The P/E ratio will approach infinity!

Look how fucking sickening the stock price is today. How in the world have they basically erased the losses from an absolutely terrible earnings??? How??? It's mind numbing

Don't they also make a lot of money selling carbon credits?

Couldn't happen to a bigger asshole.

Dude it’s up 5% as we speak.

That's some 5D thinking right there.

With 400 billion, a little stock manipulation can be easily hidden

I’m PT Barnum and I approve this message.

People that trade the most stocks are tech bro types and conservatives. Their attachment to reality is tentative at best.

think of Tesla like Enron back in the day... everything looks great until the second it's not and the rug gets pulled out almost instantly.... sound familiar..... Many of the investors still trusted Lay and believed that Enron would rule the market. They continued to buy or retain their stock as the equity value decreased because of what Lay had been telling them in the media.

Come by the whitehouse for no money down Tesla’s! Buy buy buy! We are going discount crazy! Trucks were $140k at launch now $70k!! That’s half off in one year!

It's a slow wealth transfer from fools to investors. Profit taking up until the price drops 5-8 percent. Everybody gets the memo and pauses. Next morning, all the genius retail investors "buy the dip," which just bumps the price up a little so the big dogs can repeat the cycle. It's happened like 10 times in the last 30 days. People who bought in the 200s really need to start thinking about selling before they run out of bigger suckers.

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Fingers crossed, but Tesla is defying reality. Even though the feud between Musk and Trump could end up being a bit of a problem for Tesla.

FSD by the end of the year we swear

It has to be fucking Rigged

It's up 5% today because Trump tweeted out support for him.

And Elon salutes you for that take. Twice, even.

Stock price ≠ financial health. Fundamentals and valuation are two very different things. There's a major disconnect.

They make some money from carbon credits, but that has never been a major part of their business model.

This has to be rage bait.

it's just as silly to see how bitcoin is doing

Tesla’s actual product is the stock, and the real customers are the stock HODLers

It's a valuation bubble that is likely to burst, if the earnings keep weakening.

Wonder what the ROI on that Iron Man 2 cameo has been. Phony Stark

There are still above average EVs vastly overselling their competition in the US. Get ride of Elon and focus the company on making cars instead of all the other Bs. And then you will love Tesla again.

Cause Trump frantically offered back Musk his subsidies on Truth Social today Why? Likely cause Musk has Epstein info on Trump. This is how the country is governed now.

The only thing I can come up with to explain it away is that he is bribing fund managers to hold the stock. Any adult can see that he is a grifter and his pie in the sky promises never materialize.

EV owners need to do two things when traveling, charge and eat. Tesla is considering entering the combo dining and charging business in a big away and could disrupt the industry bringing in huge returns! <for those that cannot tell, this is a joke>

Agreed! 🍈 and Dan Ives touting it will be 20 trillion. Good day to increase short today, but keep some powder dry for more pump headlines.

That business apparently already halved because of their terrible sales.

If they do, stock will fucking RIP UP

The business doesn’t get money when you buy stock unless you buy during an IPO. If you buy on the NYSE or other exchange, you are just purchasing the ownership stake from another stockholder.

Up 6% so far. What the actual fuck.

I just have a lot of popcorn stored for the day Tesla finally crashes and returns to a sane valuation. Until then I avoid everything having to do with Tesla and Elmo.

It's insane I bought the inverse a while ago, TSLZ. I am still dumb founded by whoever is buying this stock

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That doesn’t seem to matter it’s been one day and the stock is almost back where it was yesterday morning or the day before

Good line to read with morning coffee. Thanks for waking me up, love it!

Why can't it be Russia and/or the Saudi's buying the dips and squeezing shorts? Essentially infinity money propping this pig up, if that is the case

Safe you a click: SUMMARY Tesla faces a major revenue hit as a new bill eliminates the need for regulatory credit purchases. Analysts expect Tesla’s credit revenue to drop 75% in 2026 and vanish completely by 2027. With sales declining and profits shrinking, Tesla is offering aggressive deals to stay competitive.

They trade average 100 million shares a day do the math that’s not coming from retail investors it’s coming from large corporations or countries

Yeah, it’s baffling

Let's hope so

Wym? Tesla is in the business of selling dreams and promises. They have recently transitioned toward being a fastfood chain as well. They will never run out of business. I repeat, NEVER.

To lose fair and square no problem. To be cheated whole different story

Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered "No"

According to this article: "In Q4 2024 alone, Tesla earned $692 million from selling regulatory credits or carbon credits, accounting for nearly 30% of its quarterly net income of $2.33 billion." [https://carboncredits.com/teslas-carbon-credit-revenue-soars-to-2-76-billion-amid-profit-drop/](https://carboncredits.com/teslas-carbon-credit-revenue-soars-to-2-76-billion-amid-profit-drop/) This article says 43% of their profits in Q1-3 2024. [https://insideevs.com/news/742024/tesla-regulatory-sales-profit/](https://insideevs.com/news/742024/tesla-regulatory-sales-profit/)

I don't think so Elon just announced there will potentially be more robotaxis than mammals of all species combined on the road by end of year! 😎

One can only hope

IBM, FORD, APPLE, UBER are all example of companies with great product that was struggling because of bad leadership. Leadership got replaced and the company bounced back. Tesla will eventually be forced in that category by investors.

I’ve got 200 shares lol. They have a lot of potential. AI and robotics being the heart of it all. I do covered calls though this stock can give big swings so more premium for me.

One can only hope...

I’ve been stacking them honestly I don’t see how Tesla doesn’t go down to 160 based on revenue and hopefully the squeeze will come thru Q3

What makes Tesla better at AI or robotics than the hundreds of other companies doing the same things except they don’t have the insane news coverage?

No, I think it’s simply that market makers are making so much money selling options, that there’s an incentive to keep the machine going up and down and up and down as long as possible. Just like at the 5y chart.

It's up from Friday of last week

Do u have the post text?

“Tesla is going out business.” Stock pumps.

As long as the stock is in the S&P 500 passive investors will be buying TSLA as part of their index funds, regardless of whether they love or hate the company.

I’m losing money on tslz the stock keeps going up. It finally went down yesterday but shot back up

Picturing racoons ordering a robotaxi 🤣

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I would hold dude this stock is volatile, and it’s going to go down at some point. I know the ETFs are supposed to be short term but this is one I’ve been holding and have kept adding. I’ve got 7000 shares

And beyond.

Holy fucking shit. That is *wild*

Yes, but which year?

This aged well...see comment above

Yes.

Tesla is in the business of raising money from investors for hype. The things that they make and sell are of less importance. Selling cars is a minor part of Tesla's business model. Selling carbon credits is an even smaller part. The comment that compares car sales to carbon credit sales is not relevant for this discussion.

To the moon! They will no longer have to concern themselves with sales or profits.

Hyperloop is glorious. completely abandoned, a poster child of Elon flagship projects, tours on youtube are so funny

without the EV credit, or the regulatory credits, and in light of their falling sales I think if they stay profitable next year I will be impressed. If they reduce prices that will bolster their sales, but there are a lot of people that wont buy a tesla at any price. Furthermore, that would put pressure on the second hand market which has already seen tesla prices tumble

blood money is fitting for Elon, the Saudis are known for not being afraid to waste it

Wild, right? Self-fulfilling prophecy.

when they roll out the Optimus waiters, you will change your tune! You'll see! /s

Thanks for the good laugh.

without elon the company might survive but the stock wont. For their stock to be in line with their car business it would have to drop 90%

this is going to be a case study at some point, I cant wait to understand who has been buying tesla all this time. I dont think there are a sufficient number of people that gullible with that much cash that they are keeping it afloat, there has to be more to the story.

Think about the fact that even with incentives and people trying to buy before the tax credit is gone, Tesla sales still plunged while other EV sales were up.

I'm suprised how everyone forgot about solar roof that every US home was supposed to have. It was supposed to be cheaper then normal roof and generate money by selling power to the grid.

Is it theoretically possible that Tesla could go 99.99% out of business, and keep some little tiny shell of a company in existence, and have it's stock essentially turn into crypto? As in, the only thing left is a few repair shops to service existing Tesla's, with everything else shuttered or sold off, but yet it's still valued at $1 trillion?

Yeah, I had almost forgotten about the regulatory tax credits. That’s huge!

It is slightly dangerous because it's possible for them to go out of business and you still lose on something like TSLZ. If Tesla keeps going up in value and then suddenly drops to zero, you'd get a 2x return on the ending value of that day. Personally though, I'm holding a small amount of TSDD that I'm not currently underwater by much right now and I plan to keep holding

Not really. The Tesla pitch has not been broken yet. Long term investors still believe Tesla will gain market dominance in robots or autonomous driving/ride share. Dates have just been pushed as usual but nothing has swayed them yet of their long term beliefs. I for one think function robots at market rate prices for volume sales are at least 10 years out so not worth considering. I do think they will make some waves in autonomous/ride sharing but I don't think it is anywhere near as profitable as people believe it will be.

Once Tesla goes out of business, they’ll finally be free to realize their true potential, no distractions like manufacturing or delivering cars. Cathie Wood sees this as a $30 trillion market cap opportunity. It’s not a collapse, it’s a clean pivot into a fully autonomous AI religion with vertical integration into the metaverse. We’re talking post-product valuations here.

Several!

First it was going to be loved by all! Then it was supposed to be only for Teslas. Then it was going to be only for Teslas with the Hyperloop upgrade package and subscription... 🤦

MOON!!! The stock's potential can finally be unleashed when it isn't tied down to a physical company.

Considering they will *legally* be required to have these repair shops open to satisfy any issued recalls or service their own vehicles for a pretty lengthy period of time, there absolutely is a possibility.

Love it.

It is. The major banks own a lot of Tesla shares. They won’t sell and let the price collapse. It would crush them too. So they prop up the stock and hope things eventually level out

I don't they are concerned with profits now!?

Yeah

This is really hilarious- I mean just imagine.

Basically the ZEV/CAFE credits from legacy manufacturers paid for the 5 factories. So Elon’s sitting on $30B in cash, enough to get robotaxis, or admitting defeat.

Hopefully yes

Ayup, 2m cars per year is BMW/Mercedes zone. 1/15th the market cap.

Reason is at least Tesla is proven. And has revenue. Even if it’s on a clif. We at least see something and hopeful in the positif future of AI and better EV. Also no matter what EV will be the main cars on the road sooner than later even if trump disagrees. It’s the most efficient way. So they have good potential and ppl are banking on that.

Jp Morgan has 39 million shares and a price target of 115. Interesting

I’m still guessing it’s this. I bet a lot of the smart money is out. Someone can just buy during low volume periods and create a false narrative. Then dumb money like 401ks come in and buy at any price. What possible reason is there for a 5% gain today?

People see the dip and have been trained to ignore the reason for said dip. This stops the price slides then reverses it. Other people see the price going up again and assume the FUD was wrong and buy more because the price is going up.

For sure. Billions are paid in stock options. Basically investors are paying for employees and in particular, billions to director directly in the for of share sales. This on top of raising capital by diluting shares. While share prices are factors higher than the company valuation, any company will capitalize on this and dilute the shares. Gamestop is another company that did just that. They have pretty much no product/profit but when the stock price was high, they issued shares and built up a massive cash reserve. Of which they are burning thru.

Not going to happen until mElon keeps on grifting for all fanbois

Can only hope

It would go to the moon

Can’t musk be sued by the shareholders for tanking their brand and their investments?

This would be hilarious if it didn’t sound like every crypto-tech D-bag / Fox Business interview.

The ultimate Leopard Ate my Face example. To think that Elon invested $250 million to get the man who is destroying Tesla elected (o_O) ?

Username does not check out. Seems like you'd be on the other end of the chair and whip.

Elon brought this upon himself, destroying his own crown jewel out of a temper tantrum. He was sick & tired of the left’s woke mind virus?? At least they supported all those things that made him a billionaire, i.e. tax rebates, EV mandates, carbon credits, renewable energy subsidies, etc etc. So he decides to go MAGA, which stands firmly against ALL the left/ woke: green energy push that made Elon who he is. What outcome did he actually expect??

Well, yes and no. Those legal agreements go out the door if the company goes bankrupt. Contracts are null and void when the entity no longer exists.

its like a self-driving Tesla. The most and least impressive thing you've ever seen

Maybe we need to wait for charging in the US but in China we see 500+ KW EV charging in less than 10 min

Other cars companies won’t have the EV credit neither… is a lose lose situation for everyone but Chinese companies. American brands won’t notice a difference between them.

Ai is a separate company

Proven grifters

Google does

I watched Enron crash in real time and waiting for the chance to see the same happen again

Yeah, they should be coupled

Believe me I spent way more time than I'd like on that truth social cesspool and did not see a thing that was close enough to what the poster described in the last 2 days

A top hit from Google: trump musk https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/24/trump-musk-federal-subsidies-cuts-00473570

I see a big, BIG future for you in consulting...

Have to keep selling their #1 product called hope.

Of course it is... God dammit.

Don't kink shame!

It’s certainly questionable if it’s a going concern.

Yes but Tesla will charge folks faster with the V4 cabinets. With slow service in the Tesla diner they can rack up idle/congestion fees and further increase revenue.

Capital losses for everybody!

This made me laugh so hard I snorted.

I don’t know if they are going out of business anytime soon, but they are hurting. I have a 2018 Model 3 and they are contacting me weekly via phone calls, emails and text to offer me a “great” deal to purchase a new model. I’m going to run mine into the ground and then get a Rivian RT1.

See fisker.

To the moon!

No

Or as Elon would say; an order of magnitude above infinity.

Not for long

It's over 9,000!!!

Tesla gonna need a damn miracle to be in the black again. Their profits have always just been credits and even then they had many red quarters.

Ah got it... Thanks for that, it was confusing because the BBB already did cut his subsidies credit trading which can't easily be undone. I guess he meant the punitive threats

Yeah. Or. Real religion with ‘churches’ and pot and ketamine worship

Like all the pole who bought fiskers and are now kinda screwed

Just traded in my MY for an R1T. Super happy about the whole deal

worlds wealthiest man after spending close to 500M to help buy a convicted rapist an election - is now on the outs? What a sucker. hope you had a good year elon finding out keep your enemies closer....

It went up by half an Enron (at its peak) today. Now it's at 14.14 Enrons.

You can do anything when you learn how to divide by zero!

😂 no

DJT is one of the top Bitcoin holders. It’s not a Twitter competitor; it’s a crypto money laundering machine. Tesla can live on somehow.

without the credit many people are priced out of the EV game altogether, its just another factor that has whittled away at his potential customer base.

Yes. Just like Trump isn’t gonna be re-elected in 2024. Oh wait…

Mars colony is soooo 2020 … it’s Venus colony now. The future is in building heat shields… 100 trillion market cap.

The first self driving stock.

Tesla is facing tough times, their cars have aged, they are not the cutting edge anymore, the cybertruck was a flop. But, they have robots coming that could change the whole labor industry, if they can pull the self driving thing as well, they can revolutionize the transportation industry as well. Elon Musk is his biggest asset, can combine Space x and star link for the best internet connection and Grok for the AI I don’t think Tesla will get out of business but I do think they will have to cut cost immediately, the cybertruck is probably getting discounted soon.

Musk is doing a Buzz Lightyear "To infinity and beyond"

To Mars!!

Can’t wait for the first person to call for Tesla to stop making cars because it looses them money

Going out of business 😂😂😂😂😂

Don’t exaggerate. The company is still profitable. But the valuation is just ridiculously high. In a similar sales situation, other companies would be in the range of 50-100USD.

Tesla hasn't had a new share offering in nearly five years. Effectively they've done much of the opposite instead through frequent buybacks. The company's main interest is definitely "shareholder value" but that doesn't translate into an actual earnings model.

Buying shares from shareholders isn't giving the company money, that's a pretty fundamental thing to know about investing...

20 trillion!

They could make more on fuel subsidies than selling cars. Or is that their business model?

Don’t forget the restaurant, they’re gonna make an absolute killing!

Terrible cars. Fascist CEO making ridiculous claims a child could refute? Cybertruck fiasco? Chinese dominating the space? Nah—Tesla’s fine!

Will never achieve full autonomous that states approve of! Never.

And beyond!!!!!!!!

Amazingly accurate if the operative word is “the”.

How about if they sell the car business off to Stellantis? Then they can become an AI / robotics/future visioning think tank company, unencumbered by producing or supporting products.

That prospect of running out of bigger suckers is probably why musk is so big on pro-natalism.

This is just $TSLA closing the gap to $PLTR PE ratio. Can't let $PLTR be the king of memes!

It will truly unlock shareholder value!

They will go back to being "pre-revenue". Instant market darling

Green/pink hairs would be so happy if that happens

Cathie Wood is an ass clown haha

Now that their fuel economy credits are gone and the $7500 tax credit done, the only thing worth any money is their charging network.

Yeah my friend has been waiting for 3 years for that to go in. He put his deposit down and is screwed now

Every time I see something about dividing by zero and thought of the Siri response to the question: "Imagine that you have zero cookies and you split them evenly among zero friends. How many cookies does each person get? See? It doesn't make sense. And Cookie Monster is sad that there are no cookies, and you are sad that you have no friends."

How many 20 quintullion dollar companies go belly up?

No, they won't. 40 billion cash reserve vs 30 billion liabilities. But it will seriously affect their ever growing R&D especially with their moonshot projects Robotaxi, FSD and Optimus.

Doomed to be totaled at the next bridge pillar.

In the future with enough bad bets, sure. Right now they are fine mostly thanks to delusions of fanboys and probable manipulation of the stock by Musk. However the technology lead they had in all areas of the company are gone. Their EVs, batteries, self driving, robots, robotaxies have been surpassed by other companies. Their future is all theoretically and Musk’s love of ill-advised shortcuts is going to prevent the leaps they need as new technology and shortcuts don’t mix well. Their main life support - government subsidies - are likely to be eliminated one at a time as part of the very thing Musk pushed far - DOGE. I suspect if Musk is able to get his huge bonus, he will dump his Tesla stock and what broken remains of the company will be sold for parts. But that could take many years to happen.

There would be something fascinating about Tesla reporting they're bankrupt as their current valuation.

Don't you mean "To the Mooooonnnnnn!!!!"?

Originally I figured some other company would take Tesla over and turn the brand into a badge under new management. But the main Tesla lineup is becoming increasingly dated and Musk has pretty much poisoned the brand recognition. So . . . I dunno.

I've heard this described something like - "Index Investors are unwittingly not a neutral party" - Because index funds have a specific way they invest, active large investors in the market can game the system and essentially get money that they'd don't technically control moving in the direction of their choice in order to achieve an outcome.

They would have to get very close to zero, but never cross over into the negatives. Bullish!

I’m a Saudi king, sell me a megaproject.

Literally makes no sense, the product is toxic and sales are down everywhere with no anticipation of that changing. Cybertruck had to be a huge loss, no one buying those abominations. I don’t see their path to green, at least a path that justifies this stock being more than like a $20 stock.