Tesla Cybertruck Sales Fall Dramatically To Their Lowest Level In A Year

It's amazing to me that they're selling any. If you want one for some reason, you can buy a used one with a few thousand miles on it for 50%+ off. And it's just as ugly as a new one 👌

The best part of this article is the shitty surface finish on the vehicle they put in the banner picture.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are fake sales in there to inflate the number.

Decades from now the Cybertruck will still be laughed at. It is a joke for the ages.

Run rate of around 17,500 for annual number. Roughly just under 50 per day. The production rate is hopelessly inefficient and unprofitable.

That’s just how they look all the time.

Yeah, it looks somehow like it was one that was left in a damp garage for 10 years then rolled out.

I mean, at what point does Tesla admit the obvious, and cut its losses on this one. Given their insane valuation, they should dump the cybertruck, and buy Rivian.

Rivian is at around 45,000 per year and in financial hot water

Soon, they aren't selling enough to keep a production line going. The De Lorean of a generation.

Aren't they still counting vehicles delivered to the dealer?

Rivian is still in startup phase and has substantial investments from VW and Amazon. The true test will be next year when the R2 comes out.

The people that I know who own it bought it because they could. One doctor was going through his midlife crisis. He brags about it even though he doesn't use it as a truck at all. He hires people to move things. His idea of going outdoors is going to the beach. One other guy owns multiple boba shops and he owns two cybertrucks. But he doesn't use the cybertrucks for anything. He has toyota trucks to haul things.

Yeah you know those lists of 10 worst ______ ever made. It's gonna be in those

They’re so ugly

I do think that they are not losing money on making those. But I don't think they are recouping even a small portion of the investment they made in making the cybertruck. They could have sold a lot more of them if not for the design and raw material choices made by Musk.

This is not news

Remarkable they really don’t sell meaningful volume on 3 of the 5 models available

Last year in Flagstaff I spotted 6 on the road and a few dozens on the dealership This year, I spotted 1 on the road, and a few dozens at the dealership My guess is the one driving have broken down.

You mean used car sales to dealers?

I mean when they ship a new vehicle to their dealers to sell

It will be in the list of the one worst car ever made. I'm not sure how they can keep producing them they must be losing a fortune on every car.

I used to see em almost every day around where I live. I don’t think I’ve seen anymore than 2 or 3 in the past few weeks. I think it’s the engineering problems and the shame

They don't have dealers, so....

Funny thing about Tesla vehicles, you can buy one that's ten years old and it will look exactly like the 2025 model. They haven't updated shit.

Tesla can’t ever admit defeat this would most likely tank the stock. Just redirect with another shiny object that’s mostly a lie, half truth at best.

The Tesla influencers on Twitter’s minds can’t comprehend why this isn’t the best selling vehicle in America

There’s a buyer born every minute 😂

It form the basis of a business school case study on the effects of ketamine on ceo decision-making

That’s much more that I would have anticipated after seeing how bad it is in the real world.

The company is nearing 20 years old and has yet to release a true second generation of any of its vehicles...

I thought those things were DeLoreans

Just the ones parked at abandoned shopping malls across the US

I assume it's the same marks re-buying a new one as theirs gets Cyberstuck.

Rivian is now a profitable company that scares Musk. I expect Rivian to take off when the R2 is released. I know I'm interested.

Me too! We have a R1T and it’s a great vehicle. I’m excited about the R2 launch, I think Rivian is really going to take off.

They let someone I know keep it at their house and test drive it for three days!!! He did not buy it thankfully but wow are they desperate

You’re kidding me…

Anyone see some of the questions on Robinhood at least, from the stockholders. One was about CT plans and what an “incredible product” it is. Lol. It seems like a lot of those questions are softballs.

So basically lowest level ever

You can only prop up shit for so long the bill will come do

I mean, this isn’t true. Model 3 and y both just had refreshes. But they make changes to the car every year. The self driving hardware is going on its 5th version now, in 2021 all models got upgraded AC and heating systems, in 2022 they upgraded the infotainment system to use a newer processor. They just don’t change the look of the cars (except for the refresh they just did!). So while you can by a 2019 model 3 and it’ll look the same as a 2023 model 3, they have completely different hardware underneath.

F150 Lighting : Q1 '25 = 7185 Units. Q2 '25 = 5842 Units Hummer EV : Q1 '25 = 3000. Q2 '25 = 4508 Cybertruck : Q1 '25 = 7126. Q2 '25 = 4306 Rivian : Q1 '25 = 8640. Q2 '25 = 1752 Everyone fell except GMC... reads article.... Hummer reporting sales of both variants of trucks together this quarter on. Huh

They sold more than all Hummers ever sold combined in Q3 2024 alone

It’ll be a symbol of Tesla’s downfall

I got 10k rn if anyone wants to sell theirs.

Yeah. Like ten years ago Tesla cars looked . . . fine . . . I guess. Not great but not really offensive in any way. Now they're just kinda looking dated. I know appearance isn't everything. But you'd think Musk would be more conscientious of making his product *feel* like the future. I mean, I hate the swelling size of infotainment screens, but even then other companies are doing more interesting things with them than Tesla. Which is still stuck at 'I-Pad taped to the dashboard'.

Live in Orange County CA and they're a semi frequent sight here. Though I supposed it's because we're the absolute most permissive environment. Lots of conservative Musk fans, abundant electric charging options, and very permissive weather.

But they have stores that display the cars and they will sell them to you.

Below the Pontiac Aztec.

Nope. Those display locations will not sell you a vehicle. If you're interested, they'll sit you in front of a computer where you can order one online yourself

Musk for being a supposedly smart man sure should stop making the cyber truck and start making a minivan.

Come on the model Y juniper is a totally new vehicle

The new Chevy Trailboxx EV 2026 480 miles is pretty awesome for an EV

In 30 years if we are still doing cars, it might have a cult following like the Delorean. He was an idiot drug addict too.

The 5 people left who want a brand new one should just come together and refuse to buy until prices are cut 60%. Who's gonna stop them? Lol

I like how unsold Cybertrucks in Michigan are being parked in a lot that used to belong to a Bed Bath and Beyond.

If they would only put the swastika on the truck they would lean into their customer base.

Generally on low productions runs you are loosing money. There is a high fix cost as you need a large work force that is trained and an administrative costs that is very high regardless if you sell one unit or 100,000 units. You can make money on highly specialty vehicles that are somewhat hand built but you have to have very high margins. That how super cars do it that only build a few hundred a year. But if you are trying to run a production line, you need to build a fairly high volume to cover the static costs. There is a reason every car company shuts down lines that are low producers even if they are making money per vehicle.

Self checkouts have gone too far.

Actually, there’s only a buyer born *slightly* less than every 30 minutes.

Soon to be the site of a Spirit Halloween 👻

/r/confidentlywrong

New saying, then: there’s a sucker born every 30 minutes

Buyer, I mean buyer

Tesla doesn't have dealers™

The circle of life

I'm beginning to think that using stainless steel wasn't such a genius idea after all.

It as cute as the amc gremlin

How does the cybertruck sell better than the Rivian.? It’s a good looking truck.

Actually, Delorean (the man) was framed; in court he was shown to have been coerced into the deal he'd been charged over. And Delorean (the car) wasn't really equivalent to the Cybertruck - it performed the duties of a car reasonably well, and was relatively well built (one might even say very well built, by comparison to an early-80s GM car). Unlike the Cybertruck, which does not perform very well as a truck, and is notoriously poorly built. In 30 years I doubt there'll be enough functional Cybertrucks to support a cult following.

In the 1930's the Budd company started building rail passenger cars out of stainless steel. Many of those built in the 1940's and 50's are still around, having spent 80 years and more out in the weather, and run up millions of miles. The trick is you have to pick the right stainless steel for the purpose.

Yawn. So every single manufacturer does refreshes or mid generation updates and then releases new *generations*. As I said Tesla has never had a **true** second generation of any model. For a company so flush with cash and supposedly awesome at R&D they seem hesitant to go all new. Maybe it's because when they do refreshes they have to shut down the lines for months? I thought Elon knew more about manufacturing than anyone! Also why are the fans so quick to defend the aging lineup? New bumpers and lights? Oh another hardware system? Maybe they'll have FSD figured out by HW42.

No. They literally report cars they transport to storage and parking lots Tesla leases or owns as if they have been sold to independent third parties. Financially delivered, as Tesla calls it

I think this is a dumb argument. Porsche hasn’t updated the 911 in literal decades by your standards. Also teslas have only been on the road for a decade with their oldest models. Most cars don’t get major refreshes every year, maybe every 5-10. Maybe generational refreshes are dumb. People buy the latest iPhone even though it looks the same as the one that came out 10 years ago.

Yup I've heard this argument before. The Porsche 911 has had the 991 and 992 generations in the time since the model S was released and now the 992.2 which is a refresh is currently being produced. Yeah generational refreshes are dumb if a company can't innovate enough to make a platform or generation obsolete. Maybe Tesla can continue building on the Model S platform for another 10 years. Or maybe continue on the Model 3 for another 8? Regardless of how you or I feel- general consumers will view it as stagnant and the same models year after year. Tesla was supposed to have 50%CAGR and reach 20 million units a year by 2030. But now we are likely to see another flat year and more than likely a flat or negative 2026. Among other factors consumers are seeing these as old products

And if a frog had wings, it wouldn’t bump its ass a-hoppin

Great point - in the time Tesla came out with the tablet taped to the dash other companies have introduced 20, 30, 40"+ displays integrated into the dashboard with multiple screens and configurable arrangements. Also they offer heads up displays on the windshield. Meanwhile Tesla takes away physical buttons and still has a table taped to the dash.

It will be a case study on how to waste time and money. Tesla had so many opportunities in the 5 years to develop the CT. But instead of market research, development, and bringing new products people wanted they lied about 4680 capabilities and the specs and prices of the CT. All the while competition was gaining ground.

The 992 and the 992.2 look very much the same on the outside. If that’s your standard for a new generation than I truly don’t see how the model 3 refresh and more specifically the model y refresh aren’t generational changes. I know there’s zero convincing you, your tone clearly shows that you’re not really here to engage but rather just trash talk. Which, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised by. That’s the point of this sub.

dude the gremlin is rad though

calling the Delorean well built is definitely at odds witb what I've heard from car community. Idk about fraud but I do think he did a lot of cocaine? Both were stainless steel and not particularly good but very different.

A refresh is just that: A refresh. Maybe improved batteries, new tech, bit of new interior, new front and rear, but the base vehicle is still the same. Every other car maker does a „facelift“ every 3-5 years. Totally normal. Like the Toyota RAV4 5th gen was introduced in 2019 and then in 2021 it got a facelift and now in May there was a proper updated 6th gen. VW Golf with Mk I to VIII is another example for proper „new generations“. Tesla never made a proper „next gen“.

Heads up Displays is like 15+ year old tech. IIRC the Corvette C6 had it as an option.

Selling less cars than the Pontiac Aztek is quite the achievement

They should’ve just beefed up the Model Y a bit and make a medium-sized pickup and it would’ve sold millions.

yeah but that's essentially the same thing. Twenty years ago mobile phone shops were doing the same thing.

Nobody talking about this, but combined (!) the CyberTruck, Model S and Model X only sold 10,394 units compared to 373,728 Model Y and Model 3. This is like 2.7% of their entire sales. And the majority of them is the CyberTruck. Model X and S sold like 20 cars in Germany. They’re on par with brands like Lotus and Vinfast when it comes to these vehicles.

And they don’t sell any cars outside North America, while Tesla is global. If they can utilize the VW network with the R2 they’re going to be successful. The R3 even more if it ever makes it. And I hope their delivery truck is making it to Europe. Currently we already have Chinese postal trucks here in Austria, because nobody else make EV delivery trucks.

Do we have an estimate on how much it cost to develop and build the factories? What's the sunk cost?

If the timeline was the same then the Tesla brand was already in the bin by the time the CT launched

why do you care about people doing cocaine, a large proportion of wealthier people do cocaine, as well as others.

Sure but longer term they inevitably will.

...and yet Tesla still hasn't offered it. Shocking.

I said the 991 and 992 were generations. And the 992.2 is a refresh of the latest 992 generation. I'm here to be a dose of reality with heavy snark and sarcasm. You're surely not here to "engage" but that's fine. The lack of investment in proper new generations or models will be evident in sales. But hey at least Musk and Tesla are rich.

30+ year old. Nissan had it in the very early 90's. Tesla could do it but simply they're too cheap to spend the money.

I remember an interview from shortly after he bought Tesla where is talked about how he considered generational design to be nothing more than wastefulness and that he had no intention of ever making a second generation of the S (it had just entered production at the time). He then talked about incremental improvements as being the superior way and how he was going to shock the automobile industry, as if that wasn’t already a thing for decades all across the industry. Delusional. I knew then he was trouble. Also, the only designs Musk has given us are the Ipad no button interior, falcon doors and the CT. The design language of the 4 was pre Musk Tesla and the S originally had a normal interior.

Source on the interview? It makes sense Musk truly believes that he knows better than anyone. Remember when he was going to have the alien dreadnaught but now it's just Tesla tents or when he was going to have 10+ people capacity in pods in his tunnels now it's just Teslas driven by a humans? Remarkable vision that he has...

This is exactly what I have tried to explain for YEARS but I've made no progress. I guess they're fine with whatever Tesla says it is and whatever Tesla gives them.

Source is lost. It was a fluff interview coincided with the release of the S. I joked about it with my other car nerd buddies at the time and never thought to save the link. He’s just a hype man. Sells steak, delivers jerky for twice the original price and 2 years behind schedule. And to be clear when I say I knew he was trouble I only mean within the confines of Tesla as a CEO that actually thinks design language should never change and thinks they have invented what is already a decades old practice isn’t going to work out in the long run. I had no idea how crazy he actually is.

I don't? I was just making a joke about them both being similarly drug fuels businessmen who make bad decisions

And possibly get a free wrap and all the factory QA somewhat addressed by the first owner spending half a year getting it serviced

Would like to see the financial cost and opportunity costs of this. Or at least more criticism on it

That checks, who is this unreliable vehicle for at this point? Elons 3rd party?

Considering that they supposedly have more than 10,000 sitting in parking lots waiting to be sold, at this point that's like 7 to 8 months worth of inventory... They could shut down production for half a year and still not run out of vehicles.

I think you underestimate Tesla stock supporters and in general how the stock market works at this point. It has become largely decoupled from reality.

They likely have multiple wholly owned local business entities that are licensed to sell and service vehicles. They might be ‘wholesaling’ the vehicles and internally drafting the revenue from themselves.

It's incredible that the Cybertruck ended Tesla's incredible streak of successes with new models yet Tesla fanboys refuse to acknowledge it at all. Call it what it is: Tesla's first true failure, and one of, if not **the** greatest automotive failure of the century so far. And the design was forced from the ground up as Musk's personal pet project. It should be considered his Hindenburg moment, yet stock go up.

They likely have multiple wholly owned local business entities that are licensed to sell and service vehicles. They might be ‘wholesaling’ the vehicles and internally drafting the revenue from themselves.

What are you talking about? Used ones are selling for more than new

Fair play.

Hey guys! Let's point and laugh!!

Cyber truck owner here. Amazing vehicle you guys should go test drive one. If you dont like it that's okay you can go buy something else. I plan on buying another one in 5 years so more for me.

There was some shit happening at tesla dealerships in Canada that everyone's seemingly forgot about. The dealerships were reporting sales that would have been physically impossible over such and such time frame.

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We live in a post truth society

Classic DeLorean play

it literally only came about from him being such a tightass and deciding it was a great use case for the leftover stainless steel from Starbase. Stainless Steel...SS...hmm

>They could have sold a lot more of them if not for the design and raw material choices made by Musk. as per another of my replies, the stainless steel was borne out of him being such a fucking cheapskate he thought they could use up the leftover stainless from starship that way

A proper narcissist can never, ever admit they were wrong. If it becomes a financial necessity he'll gaslight the fuck out of everyone and the stans will parrot it like gospel. They'll scale production way down, pretend the sales of S/X are actually CTs, and Elon will make some proclamation that they were only ever meant to be limited edition and that will be the end of that

'your campaign has the momentum of a runaway freight train. why are you so popular?' vibes for sure

such a steep drop, assuming it wasn't a typo, suggests something external was influencing the production because it's almost impossible to find people saying bad things about Rivian's vehicles. Many CT reservation holders cancelled and put themselves down for one of those instead - even on the CT owners club forum people are very enthusiastic about them which says a lot I think. The financials are really the only negative ammo anyone's got

> Porsche hasn’t updated the 911 in literal decades by your standards. Except that's not true. > Also teslas have only been on the road for a decade with their oldest models. Model S came out in 2012 and has a minor refresh since. >Maybe generational refreshes are dumb. People buy the latest iPhone even though it looks the same as the one that came out 10 years ago. What a stupid comment. How much do you think a rectangular phone where the entire front is glass can change year to year?

> Come on the model Y juniper is a totally new vehicle Anyone that doesn't follow Tesla is going to have a hard time distinguishing the Juniper from an old model. The only notable change to most people is the new front fascia, which is changed by most manufacturers during refreshes. It doesn't look any less dated than it did.

> They sold more than all Hummers ever sold combined in Q3 2024 alone Is this supposed to be a dunk of some kind? It's not.

> Actually, Delorean (the man) was framed; in court he was shown to have been coerced into the deal he'd been charged over. There's a big difference between being framed and being coerced. He had a definite need to raise a lot of money given the poor sales of the car. >And Delorean (the car) wasn't really equivalent to the Cybertruck - it performed the duties of a car reasonably well, and was relatively well built (one might even say very well built, by comparison to an early-80s GM car). That's revisionist talk - it was never a good car. It was slow, it had significant quality problems, it started at $30k in 1982, and went up to $34k in 1983. >In 30 years I doubt there'll be enough functional Cybertrucks to support a cult following. Ehh, maybe, but only because Tesla might be out of business by then and cracking their ECU code to continue to support it might be impossible. Despite how shitty the CT is, they've made a lot more than Delorean ever did and there are always people that love ugly cars.

> They could have sold a lot more of them if not for the design and raw material choices made by Musk. You mean if they weren't poorly made and ugly as hell? Well yeah, that's the downfall of any poorly selling car. Is this supposed to be insightful?

Entrapped would probably be a better word than coerced or framed. He did need to raise money, but the testimony in court showed that Delorean was not the instigator of the idea. As for whether it was a good car, you have to think of it in the context of late 1970's and early 80's cars. Most cars introduced then had significant initial quality problems. Delorean addressed those, and the later production cars were comparable or better than other auto makers of the time. And while it was low on power for a "sporty" car, again you have to put it in context, the Chevy Camaro of that era only had 40hp more, for a 1000lb heavier car. While the Delorean was not a great car, it also was not, by the standards of it's day, a poor car. In general, the large amount of electronics and plastic in modern cars means most of them will not last long enough to become classic cars - for all their failings, the simple design of 50's - 80's cars means they can be restored and maintained in a way that cars of this century cannot, once the original manufacturer stops supplying parts.

I don't see them being supported long and those POSs are always breaking. Good luck getting parts after the stick they have is gone.

So the car is expected to fall apart in 5 years. Gotcha.....

Those companies don't have such high valuation.

Lol that truck will never fall apart. If you bothered to own one or even experience it on your own for at least a month you would begin to undersrand. Or dont undstand I could care less.

It could have been something interesting, but just his ego and not focusing on what the market wants.

If my grandma had 2 wheels she’d be a bicycle

pepperidge farm remembers

why would that be? Used ones having a track record of actually working vs mystery box of new?

Where? I would buy one for half off

Nah, the build quality and sheer ugliness of it guaranteed its demise. Politics just nudged it in that direction.

How many pedestrians have you hit yet?

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Jerky is usually 3 plus times the price per oz. Just saying..

If you are paying $50+ for a pound of jerky you are being robbed blind. At my local Kroger I can get a pound of jerky for $15 while base strip steak is $17.

The ones in the listings are NOT cyberbeasts and are not Foundation series. They are regular AWD, which can be bought for $72k new after tax credit. The used EV tax credit is only for used EVs UNDER $25k. Cybertruck doesn't qualify.

The cheapest one listed for $56k is salvage title. [https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/751881134?allListingType=all-cars&city=Littleton&makeCode=TESLA&maxPrice=69999&modelCode=TESCYBERTR&searchRadius=0&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&state=CO&zip=80123&clickType=listing](https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/751881134?allListingType=all-cars&city=Littleton&makeCode=TESLA&maxPrice=69999&modelCode=TESCYBERTR&searchRadius=0&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&state=CO&zip=80123&clickType=listing)

Used Cybertrucks are NOT 50% off or even close. Used prices are almost same as new after tax credit. Used for $70k and 6k miles. Or new at $72.5k after tax credit. New one is a way better deal. [https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/753852419?allListingType=all-cars&city=Littleton&makeCode=TESLA&maxPrice=69999&modelCode=TESCYBERTR&searchRadius=0&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&state=CO&vehicleHistoryType=NO\_ACCIDENTS&zip=80123&clickType=listing](https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/753852419?allListingType=all-cars&city=Littleton&makeCode=TESLA&maxPrice=69999&modelCode=TESCYBERTR&searchRadius=0&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&state=CO&vehicleHistoryType=NO_ACCIDENTS&zip=80123&clickType=listing)

A good litmus test for car reviewers is to see if they gave a positive review to this POS

Rivian sales are even worse - 1/4 of Cybertruck. The large EV truck market in is dead for the moment.

I test drive one last Monday for an hour after test driving a Model Y.  My first time driving a Tesla.  I was absolutely impressed by both and have a hard time considering any other vehicle.  I've been shopping for used Cybertrucks daily since.  The used market for these is crazy expensive and offers extremely little to no savings advantage over new if you qualify for the $7500 tax credit.  The only criticism I've heard is politically based or style/looks based.  Neither of which concern me.  If you painted every truck option white, the only one that would still stand out would be the Cybertruck - I'll take that one.  I rarely tow or haul heavy and when I do it's rarely now than 100 miles, not do I drive hundreds of miles a day, so those inconvenience related to electric vehicles aren't a concern.  Daily local commute and errands and weekend trips to the mountains or the beach is what I need.  FSD by the way was extremely impressive!  Door to door through light to heavy in town and highway driving.  Door to door!  What else can do that?  That's what I want.

Not true, I've been shopping online heavily for 4 days. After test driving a new one   The used market for these is annoyingly expensive and offers no advantage over new for those who qualify for the $7500 tax credit.  I'd love to see a price drop on these sometime soon though.

Funny thing about any other truck, you can ONLY buy one that looks like every other truck, a bunch of slightly stylized boxes. Paint em all white and you get a sea of the same boring thing.

Feel like the future!?! Paint every model of available pickup white, line them up and ask any child which one looks like the future and which others look like the same slightly stylized boxes?   You might hate the style, but it's the only option that isn't exactly like every other.  Knock it for it's towing range or whatever, but it's the ONLY thing that's even TRYING to look like the future.  From the interior to the exterior, it's completely different than any other truck   It may or may not be the future, but at least one company is brave enough to step out and try.  How many awesome looking concept cars have the legacy car makers shown us over the years, and NONE have actually been produced.  Too risky to actually do something different, a slave to focus groups and maximizing sales to the current majority, who only like something because others like it

Defend the Cybertruck all you want. I'm not the one who spent 6 figures on a hunk of steel that's held together by duct tape and prayer.

I can’t believe how many r*tards have bought a Cybertruck. The gimmick didn’t last long.

I’ve purchased two. We use them commercially and demo one out often Almost 50,000 miles on the first one, end of February ‘24. 22,000 on number two purchased in December I’m amazed that more haven’t sold.

horrible resale value..you doint know jack squat about cars do you

no one else on this board is amazed they havent been selling. Its just you ...let that sink in

I know more about cars and assest management then your fuzzy little head would even begin to comprehend or even understand.

Tesla is going to crush the market at some point you all cant hate on tesla and Elon all you want fast is hes the richest man in the world has all the tech. Let that sink in...

no one wantsto drive a telsa when going on long road trips. Least picked at car rental places. Cold weather affect the batteries. Price tag and insurance cost is high. Significant depreciation. charging stations are a pain in the butt. shall I continue?

I am frankly shocked that ANYONE actually buys one of these new.