Tesla pulled out shops certification

Best way to sell new cars is to make fixing them as time consuming and expensive as possible.

They're going to need to make up for all the regulatory emissions credits they're no longer going to have a market for. They're looking for any more money they can pull in!

The whole point of the dealership rules in many states was because if companies were to sell direct to customers, it would wipe out dealerships. Tesla, even though they're the wealthiest OEM on the planet by far (based on market cap), was allowed to get around these rules, while every other OEM had to abide by them. A huge competitive advantage for Tesla. Now Tesla seems to be pulling the same crap with repair shops, even those repair shops that likely jumped through hoops to become a certified repair shop. Why pay a 3rd party shop when Tesla can bring all the repair work in house, skip the middle man, funnel more of the vehicle service money to Tesla, and obscure the numbers if need be? \_\_\_ What's really interesting is that it's now quite clear that Tesla's only profitable because of subsidies, and in fact, lost money on their vehicle division in Q1 despite heavy subsidies, yet people forget that they've been taking advantage of state exceptions to dealership rules that every other OEM must abide by that have enabled them to increase their margins... and even then, the other OEMs seem to be doing just as good or better than Tesla. Weird... it's like all the claims of Tesla's business model and vehicle production being so much more efficient were lies. Isn't it ironic.

Elon Musk continues to demonstrate why you never want to do business with him or trust him with any sort of partnership. This sort of behavior will catch up with him, IMO. Consumers should also be concerned with this sort of mentality because if he's willing to screw over businesses who have invested millions into a program requiring facilities, equipment and specially staff, he wouldn't give a second thought to screwing over a customer that only made a $50k purchase.

My mechanic told me that no one truly "owns" a Tesla. Besides the fact that Tesla doesn't sell parts on the wholesale market like every other car maker, the cars can't be easily customized. Not even a good aftermarket sound system.

Pulled out of what, to where?

I didn't know it, but apparently selling those is the way they finally got into the black.

From a year ago: [87% of US Tesla drivers say they’ll buy another Tesla](https://electrek.co/2024/04/09/87-percent-us-tesla-drivers-say-theyll-buy-another-tesla/).

The two NM locations are on Indian land, the solution to state dealership laws.

It always seemed like a scam to me and I’m surprised everyone was allowing that to happen. Like out in the open selling regulatory loophole access. Between that and the consumer EV tax credit incentives and subsidies, no wonder this company was able to thrive

> This sort of behavior will catch up with him, IMO. Many people would rather die than give up the cult

Wonder what that number is today. I would have maybe a year ago, but no way would I do so today. Just bought a VW instead.

Never knew that subreddit existed but it is very entertaining

SHOULD be much lower now. We bought our Model 3 in Feb of 2023 and when it’s time to replace it Tesla is off the table.

Mine too

Yeah, when I first heard about how that was how Tesla was actually making money, I was shocked—I knew about industrial carbon credit trading shenanigans in general, but I thought that Tesla was in the business of making cars primarily, not as a front for greenwashing laundering…

You have to click through for it to make sense—the other post is by someone who works at a Tesla certified repair shop, who says Tesla withdrew their certification without warning or explanation.

Dealerships are one thing and there is a reason they do not have the best reputations (even though there are cases where having a dealership can be useful, especially if communication and service from the manufacturer is less than ideal). But for service being dependent on the manufacturer and only the manufacturer is really annoying, even the model of only being allowed to go to contract service centers sucks and is often needlessly more expensive. If tesla goes to only in-house service they need to up the number of service centers to make it just an annoyance and not a downright deal breaker. I really do not understand Teslas strategy with these things, for their car business they might make that work somewhat. But these shenanigans are everything commercial operators can't accept, if they want to sell their semi trucks the service is a selling point that is at least as important as the price, if they try to sell a truck the operator will be more concerned with the way service is done than any normal customer because lacking service and resulting downtime hurts their business in a low margin competitive business that is a deal breaker. These moves are not instilling confidence in your network. And maybe tesla is building out their service capacity under the radar, but I have not come across any indication that this push exists in a way that satisfies their current customers let alone new ones for commercial requirements.

Given all the complaints I see about month long waits, it seems their service centres can't keep up already. All this does is make the lines longer.

I think this goes to 'right to repair'. Being forced to go through the OEM, and disallowing 3rd party repair shops from working on the cars is a big issue. IMO, it doesn't matter if Tesla provides enough of their own service centers. 3rd party shops should be given the means to work on the cars.