Elon Musk Takes Over Tesla Sales For North America and Europe

Yet another nail in the coffin.

"Without FSD tesla is a zero" - elon musk he said that back before tesla had declining sales in 2024 and now 2025. Back when he said that, Tesla's sales were growing 50% years over year. He knows sales aren't what matter to this stock promotion scheme, it is just perception. At the robots silly? Yes! But they're several years where people can justify a stock valuation that's 20x higher than you can possibly justify otherwise.

“What do I need to do to put you in a new Tesla today?”

That was the first thought I had when I heard the news a couple of days ago! Does the board honestly think think this is a good thing??

It’s because Elons right hand man wasn’t willing to be shady enough to fake deliveries to reach the numbers Elon wanted

"Tesla makes the best cars at the best prices! Just compare - there's no way you can NOT SEE it!"

This will end well. I’m sure Elon can find some humility and apologise for his behaviour that ruined the brand and certainly won’t double down on everything.

So thats a wrap then. It's so over.

Excellent, this will solve the problem, surely.

Absolutely, if the problem is Tesla, and the solution is it disappearing completely

Yeah, because that is going to help....

You forgot the /s

Hahahahaha

You forget that this is a play on words, not sarcasm.

How many nails can that coffin take? I think it’s more nails than coffin these days

I can’t keep up with all Elon, Trump, Vance etc’s statements at this point

"NOT SEE" -> "Nazi"

/s

He’s about to lose his EV tax credits. It’s a big deal. When showing you the price of the car on the website, they are showing you price with EV tax credits applied. For the lower end models, that’s an 18% increase in price after credits are gone. 38k with credits vs 45k without.

Thanks, English not being my primary language, i don’t really read it as English in my head.

This is going to go well.

Oh that’ll totally work /s

lol, that’s exactly what the company needs is more Elon Musk.

Elon doesn't like to pay for advertisers. So, he is going to pay even more influencers now. Embrace for more something like, "The best car in the world", "Look at my beautiful MYLR", and "FSD just saved my life!" titles on your social media feeds!

Makes sense. The sales slumped because he wasn't present enough. /s

I hope he uses a cybertruck approach to sales improvement

Breaking News: Elon Musk takes yet another job he is not qualified for.

Yes, good idea. Put the person responsible for people not buying TESLAs, in charge of sales. Galaxy brain shit.

Another opportunity for him to reveal his ineptitude. Buncha naked emperors running around these days...

The arsonist is now personally in charge of the fire department. Will be fine and dandy.

It's like tesla walked into the shower and grab a piece of turd as soap to clean itself...let's see how well that works.

yeah, that will really help in Europe....

All he has to do is stfu

Ah yes, the Nicholas II method. Maybe Elon should go ask him how that went and stay there.

This literally could be part of it. He KNOWS he is wealthy enough that anything he does that is illegal will get him, at worst, a slap ok the wrist, or normally, just be ignored. And he probably thinks he is so smart he can fudge the numbers in a way that no one will catch him.

OMG I feel so sorry for my ex coworkers ... Elon's idea of management is sending a stupid one liner email to the whole company with a subtle threat at the end. To everyone, You guys need to sell, prep and deliver 12 cars each day all by yourselves otherwise the company and the planet will die. Thanks, Elon

The Tesla board is totally captive to Musk.

Ha!

I hear that he is going to stage baseball throwing events at dealerships.

He's too juvenile to make up normal sounding numbers, so expect announced US sales of cyber trucks in Q3 to total 69,420.

420 bro, go to mars with self driving bro

He should just use his vast wealth to buy up every Tesla and then reports will show that sales are through the roof, stock goes up and Elon gets richer and repeat. The cars don’t even have to be built, just keep on those numbers /s

I hope he appears in his own advertising. Pleeeease

“You need to sell it to me for -$60k” would be my answer

Skip the coffin and just use a cyber truck.

They were dumping new cars to the used market already, so I doubt that.

This should be great. I bet his new sales slogan will be: Tesla, go fuck yourself.

this reminds me when hitler took over the jobs of the generals..... I expect similar results

That coffin being a fancy stainless steel box with panels rotting and falling off.

The guy who tells customers to "go fuck yourself", is now in charge of sales. If you wrote this shit in a movie plot, studios would throw it in the trash and say it was too fucking ridiculous.

I love how oblivious he is to the actual root of the problem of the brand.

Get the buyers on your side, Elon. More sieg heils should do the trick.

Or 80,0085

I dont think "buy my cars or I'll be mean to you on Twitter" will work but, it's his company, right?

Lmao, surely that’ll help!

I know German car makers aren't doing that great as well (but also not worse than Tesla right now). Just to shine some perspective on how absurd the situation is. Tesla has a stock price to net tangible asset ratio of 5%, German car makers have net tangible asset ratios of around 150%. I know that it's normal to put random numbers out of your ass when trying to make a point but your 20 times higher estimation is spot on right without exaggeration. Tesla holders should really let this sink in.

He can fake the numbers but the overall income will continue to drop. He can fake deliveries but without actual sales, he’s just kicking the can further down the road.

Final nail in the coffin

Can be temporarily used as a crematorium.

Maybe he can create a few dozen extra unit in his monthly sales tracking soreadsheets... ;)

Eh… I’d need them to throw in an insurance policy so they have to pay if it burns my house down before I can flip it.

Eastbound and down reference

This is Elons bait and switch. Tesla has always been the promise of something better tomorrow. Something worth getting in line for now. Like all bubbles it will pop. As you mentioned they don’t actually build anything or have anything in the pipeline remotely to justify their valuation. It’s always been speculative.

More like they are true believers.

Yeah but regular nails and coffin won't do for this asshat. Well need a lead and concrete sarcophagus .

Right? As if the problem is sales. Nobody wants to buy the brand

I don’t think he realizes he’s the problem.

And another +4% to share price

Get ready for more mess

Let’s break it and fix it later

The problem bothering me with Tesla isn't that it's speculative. I am fine with speculating that a company might release the next thing. My problem is that every serious investor knows that Tesla will never release something meaningful and everyone is just speculating on the stock going up on the next ridiculous claim well knowing that Tesla will never deliver. I understand that some Muskians are stupid enough to believe him but there is just no way in the world that investors holding 99% of Tesla believe a word Musk says. They aren't in for Tesla actually delivering. They are in expecting to ride the ponzi as long as it goes, expecting to leave the ship before the shit hits the fan. I honestly think that Tesla still have air to go much higher but will set a world record for burning a trillion within a day. I know that many people laugh about constant claims of Tesla failing but if you read old news paper scans you see that people made the same claims about Ponzi and were laughed at. It was obviously that it's a scam at some point but this didn't prevent people from investing because the profits were too good.

Here's elon and his dog Spot! I'll stand on my head, Until my ears turn red, Go see musk, Go see musk, Go see musk! I'll eat a bug if we can't make a deal!

I’m sure he won’t do anything shady or illegal to artificially boost sales numbers on paper.

Good luck lol

> If anyone can turn this around and have the Model Y return as the Best-Selling Vehicle of 2026, having just missed out by a few thousand vehicles to the Toyota RAV4, it is Elon. Only the man who caused all of our problems can solve them. Thats some great thinking right there.

Like that’s gonna help buddy.

People rarely see the problem when they are the problem. Surrounded by yes men so he has no clue.

I expect he is cooking the books, but I have to wonder how long he can get away with it. I need to go back and look at Enron and try to figure out how long a company can kick the can down the road before it leaks to the investors.  At this point it is a Ponzi scheme.

New sales promotion: When you buy a Tesla now, you can pick a Palestinian child from a booklet of starving kids and Elon will have them bombed for you.

Or 88,888

What happened with the Canada EV refund hack Tesla tried? Who was behind that?

He is about two years late for that strategy.

lol this dude couldn’t even sell a tesla when the head of a cult was hocking it to his followers on the white house lawn.

You need to admit you rigged the election!

Everyone in North America and Europe that doesn't own a Tesla should expect a summons, he is gonna sue each and everyone of us for not owning a Tesla.

Elon has people skills. He's good with dealing with people. *Can't you understand that?* ***What the hell is wrong with you people?!?***

He going to lose is legitimately lucrative carbon capture credits too.

He going to lose is legitimately lucrative carbon capture credits too.

Hey board of trustees- are you actually going to allow this to happen?? People now fully understand why they despise musk. The smart move is to divest him of any public facing position. Hell, can him, if you want any chance to recover sales

You need skilled accountants to cook books in a non-obvious manner. Elon has no such skills.

apparently that's a well known phenomena, that arsonist-firefighters are a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighter_arson

This is the coffin

Because everything musk personally oversees goes just…just great. See: cybertruck.

Narrator's Voice: This did not end well.

With the regulatory agencies that would catch this being neutered by DOGE he might not need to.

Fair point.

Ohhhh! Sick burn!🔥

He's going to make some ridiculous announcement for vaporware car. My bet is he announces the roadster is ramping up production by 2026

I think the only real check on him is the large investment funds. At the same time it looks like they might be in on it. All of the different funds keep propping Tesla up, despite the glaring problems.  That is why I call it a Ponzi scheme.

I am afraid constant growth is in the cards, I really want to see the elmo empire collapse, but I am sure they will do some dumb stunt like spazex buying 20 million optimus robots or something from tzla for taxpayer money and stock goes up.

Put the most hated in the position to fail.

Yeah that last line was was quite the doozy. Nice comedic payoff for reading the whole thing I guess.

Musk who tweeted "Canada is not a real country" and then wondered why sales are now at zero in Canada?? Yup he will save sales in Canada. . .

Okay this is hilarious

Geez, I didn’t know that. “…roughly 100 U.S. firefighters are convicted of arson each year.” Pretty scary! I guess it makes sense though like corrupt cops (which I would imagine are much more common). Fortunately: “Fire-fighting organizations are aware of this problem.” Hopefully that means they are being proactive in identifying, purging and prosecuting them.

Nothing like a mind full of ketamine to sell cars

Ah yes! put on another hat, you tryhard renaissance man.

good luck with that after the nazi salute

Temporary? It’ll be a crematorium the rest of your life!

And then threaten to sue car buyers who don’t buy Teslas.

That'll fix it!......lawl

That has to be a big one. Isn't it at least a billion dollars in "free" profit each year? And straight from his competitors accounts, lmao.

So will Elon fire himself as he continues to miss sales targets?

They’re belivers in the way Niels Bohr was a believer in the horseshoe he had above the door of his home for luck. When a colleague asked ”Surely a physicist like yourself doesn’t believe in that superstitious nonsense?”, Bohr replied ”Of course not! But I’m told it works whether you believe in it or not.” The board is getting rich regardless of what they actually believe, they just need to keep up appearances while they sell their stock.

Get ready for more firings in Sales. They’re going to tell him (correctly) that nobody wants to buy his cars because he’s such a jerk. He’s going to be in denial and fire them for “incompetence.”

... Trump's econ policy eliminated both EV tax credits and regulatory (carbon) credits, which have been critical to the company’s profitability. In Q1 2025, Tesla reported $409 million in net income—but that included $595 million in regulatory credits.  So, Musk paid for self-destruction. Big beautiful catastrophic fall from lies to naked lies.

I’d love to read those! Do you have a good source for those clippings?

*NelsonMuntzfingerpointhaha.gif*

I particularly liked this quote at the end of the article, it definitely shows as written by a a fanboy. I personally think this is the death knell. With the way Elmo is viewed around the world. I can’t imagine that this is going to be a positive long-term. “If anyone can turn this around and have the Model Y return as the Best-Selling Vehicle of 2026, having just missed out by a few thousand vehicles to the Toyota RAV4, it is Elon.”

1.8 billion last year, I think.

Hahaha, the lack of self awareness is incredible.

Would you buy a new car from this man?

Nice, it's only right that he go down with the ship

Yes, but-- not if Orange Daddy orders the few remaining auditors at the IRS to go after Tesla.

This will end well. 🤣

Well I wasn't sure before, but now I'm buying at least half-a-dozen!

If the board had half a testicle between them, they would set expectations and sales targets and judge him accordingly. But yeah....

What a bunch of idiots.

Was the company vehicle for that position a delorean that could go 88mph and go back in time?

[Low effort AI offering](https://i.imgur.com/VUoNsLF.png)

“Everyone is dumb, only I can fix it”

Elon doesn't understand that he's what's wrong with Tesla.

Dunning Krueger sufferer attempts to right the failing company he tanked in a role he has no experience or skill in.

He just bought a presidency and used it to kill agencies investigating his businesses.  The proof is in the pudding.

Good luck

He is taking it over to do fraud. He will fraudulently report the numbers to Finance. Thats what this is about.

He really should have rigged it for Kamala lmao what an idiot

The only real answer is, a significant number of people who should know better still think Musk walks on water.

Unbelievable 😂

He did all of that just to get subsidies for his companies cut. Truly a genius and a real life Iron man /s.

If they're anything like cops, these firefighters will remain employed

Hey Elon, heard you are the one trying to sell me a car. Here are my wishes: Physical controls for everything, HUD, sub 35.000 €. Oh and you'll have to get rid of that asshole that's your CEO.

I'd make him grovel and post it online before not buying it

That's what happens if you surround yourself with yes-men and horse-women and a gazillion bot followers, repeating what you say.

Rip.

Nazis do love control

To put it into perspective. Tesla only started becoming profitable in 2021, partially because of the money they received from the government to keep them afloat during COVID and because of Biden incentives. In 2024 they made 7 billion in profit. In 2025, their sales so far suggest a 20-30% decline with the last quarter of the year projected to be the worst since EV credits are disappearing. My estimate is 5 billion profit for the year. 2026 profits will come under 3 billion after all subsidies and government credits will be gone at this point. No amount of number gymnastics Elon is doing to over inflate numbers is going to hide this.

Madoff did the same thing.

All over for Tesla junks

Lol! He took over sales when he did that salute. That didn't go well.

This guy must realize he's the problem by now.

So he’s essentially a car salesman now, on top of everything else?

Please address with his proper name; fElon

Yeah, *that's* gonna fix it.

When does he lose that?

Edolf should have stepped down

I think he doesn‘t care about the cars anymore. Its all robots and cab now….

sycophant. They are all in this for the pay packages exclusive. There is a reason that they do no suggest a 50 billion dollar package is excessive for Musk. He keeps them in power and they keep him in power.

True. He might pop a textbook about it but still won’t be an expert. Look at his rockets before it went well.

Right now the stock is $30/share worth of auto manufacturer and 2 $150 hyped up lottery tickets (robotaxis and robots.) that depend on Elon.  The only reason the lottery tickets aren't $5/each is Elon.  I fully expect them to turn out close to worthless but the board (and more importantly investors) can't unload Elon until the lottery tickets have lost their value.

The decline is sales are becauss of Elon

Q3 is going to be 8814

That’s not how that works.

For real. Elon has no idea how to retail vehicles and if anyone is looking for proof I submit the cyber truck. A 13 year old's fantasy brought to life.

People like Sawyer Matt are soooo cringe already…don’t know how it could get any worse…

Because the guy single handedly responsible for tanking sales across the world by going full Nazi Seig Heil on MLK and funding the oil and climate disaster regime is completely capable of turning around said sales.... Honestly, investors would be better off pulling out of all Tesla, SpaceX, Neurolink deals and doubling down on Lucid, and all the other companies founded by the actual founders who got booted by Elon. Could easily see a 10x return.

You know the scene in Der Untergang where they‘re all in the bunker and talking about the Angriff Steiner that hasn’t happened. That‘s how I imagine meetings about Robotaxi and other vaporware…

Doubtful given the way they are dumping stock without buying more.

They can dump Elon once they get all their shares sold, which is in process.

Disembowel the CEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need to make sure it stays shut when Elon tries to claw his way out.

Stock will skyrocket on this news

Remind people why they don’t want to buy Teslas even more. Front and center. That’ll help🤦‍♂️

"We will need to be extremely hardcore," “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade,” [https://time.com/6234390/musk-twitter-staff-email-hardcore/](https://time.com/6234390/musk-twitter-staff-email-hardcore/) Just put everyone in the company in perpetual crisis mode constantly until everyone quits. Just ignore the fact his leadership is how they got here in the first place.

To be fair, he's in charge of that decision making too.

Mmmm I wonder what kind of welcome he is expecting over here. We fight Nazis in Europe. We don't imitate them and we don't particularly like people who think that's funny.

People stopped buying Teslas because of Elon so now Elon will make people buy Teslers?

Oh I know what he should do! Set up a little DOGE and start firing people at random. If it's good enough to do to the country it should be good enough to do to tesla

Wasnt he getting deported yet?

Sude will spin his wheels for a few weeks, declare victory, and move onto something else to ruin.

I remember that stupid email. I went all the way to create an Outlook rule to trash all his stupid emails. And yes the culture of constant crisis, everyone is against us and we are the best fuck the rest is a real thing over there.

Full Self Immolating

wcgw

He can sell Tesla stock, to buy teslas, to increase the value of his remaining Tesla stock. Easy fix.

Down 58% in Germany first half of 2025 compared to last year. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/teslas-german-car-sales-continue-fall-june-2025-07-03/

Did you miss the press release that said "Optimus output is paused". Yes, apparently it's a leadership shakeup, plus hardware AND software upgrades.\ The poor soul that is already responsible for both the AI and FSD divisions now got Robotics aswell. And a drug addict as Chief of sale. But we all know the score, bullish for the stock.

I thought Tesla was pretty much dead in the EU? Euros were standing up for what’s right. Unfortunately, not the case in NA.

It’s literally a rudderless ship. How on earth do the shareholders and board let this keep happening??

If that wont get the europeans to buy cars, nothing will

I hope Europe boycotts them harder now! Does this mean that if sales continue to decline, Elon will fire himself?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This won’t work.

He shouldbdo the opposite of what he thinks, but im cheering his destruction, so I want him to follow through

That was a rather biased article. Nothing like ignoring massive glaring issues then at the end suggesting if anyone can turn around Tesla sales, it would be Elon.

Is the Trump problem. He wealth can not save all people and will throw them under the bus as necessary.

That is extremely high. 6,420 will be a high number. Officially they are selling less than 2000 a month now.

No teenagers were available?

Sounds like he learned something after the White House advertisers

Lol, he's going to be CTO here right away as well. What a dumpster fire.

Oh. THIS oughta clear things right up fer them!

All the dealerships will now be triangles.

Hahahahahahaha

Not much to take care of...

Oh yeah. That will help. A ketamine-addled nazi is just what they were missing in the sales department.

I fully expect the robotaxi and robot businesses to be worth less than $50B and probably worth less than $10B which along with the $100B auto manufacturer gets you to $30/share. The Koolaid drinkers value these lottery tickets at about $450B each based on Tesla's market cap. I suspect reality will beat down the price of these lottery tickets to reasonable levels eventually but firing Elon would do it in a day. I hate Elon but the board's only play is to hope he somehow keeps the morons on the hook long enough that either useful businesses develops or they can sell their shares before the bottom falls out.

That'll fix it!

This is it right fucking here. He’s gonna flub the numbers just like he did the election.

That's like putting the Corona Virus in charge of fixing pneumonia.

He X’d himself out of a job.

Yet he threatens and blackmails other companies if they don't want to advertise on his shit media company.

I am genuinely impressed that he apparently has no problems finding employees. There's one thing being motivated and working hard. It's a totally different thing if it becomes apparent that you work for a total moron.

At one point in my past I was ready to drive teslers for the rest of my life because the convenience of the superchargers network and auto pilot. But now, I will never, ever buy another tesler. Elon could call me personally and try to sell me one and I would refuse. If I were to get one for free or as a prize I would sell it

>If anyone can turn this around ... it is Elon. I'm thinking no.

Riiiiiight. The guy at the heart of the problem thinks he can fix it. And ONLY he can fix it. 100% Elon.

Sure he’s a Nazi and he’s done irreparable damage to the company and its image but you know what this company on the brink of destruction needs? More Elon! That’ll fix it.

lmao

Dime bag of ketamine with EVERY CyberStuck!

Well he's right about one thing, it's not a car company. Tesla, the "largest" automaker in the world that is coming for Toyota's crown has never even beat the #7 brand, Suzuki, in world wide sales.

Who's he gonna blame when he fails to turn things around? Probably the Deputy Head of Sales for North America and Europe.

A literal dumpster fire

They would have to buy car storage from me for $60k/year

Board: Yes, let's put the cause of the decrease in sales in charge of the sales. That will fix it.

Yep, that'll work. The problem with European sales has nothing to do with Elon. Absolutely nothing.

He directly caused the sales crash, how does he think he’s going to fix it? That’s insane.

HA! He’ll start suing people for not buying his cars. Remember when he said “Fuck Apple! We don’t need them”, because Apple stopped advertising on x? Because Apple didn’t want the risk of their ads running next to hate (I mean “free”) speech? And then a week later claimed he was going to sue them because they weren’t advertising on x??? What a choad.

It’s difficult to emphasize just how much of a self destructive idiot he is.

I’m sure the Germans will remember his Hitler salute forever.

With a chainsaw and Hitler salute at the end.

I know a woman who used to work for Enron. Lost touch with her, but even after that company went down and her 401k decimated with it (employees were forced to buy company stock in their 401k’s), she was STILL claiming two years later that the company’s collapse was the fault of government regulation. I was like, “Yeah! Regulators said they weren’t allowed to practice illegal accounting and the were practicing illegal accounting!!! So I guess technically you’re right.” Apparently that kool aid taste lingers for quite awhile.

Is he going to pay us each $100 to take one off his hands?

Musk is the marketing equivalent of toxic waste at the moment. I'm not sure it is a wise move to have him involved in any way. Not even sure Tesla is recoverable as a brand.

If one of those floppy tube fan guys that are outside car dealerships became a real boy, Elon Musk is the boy they would become.

What could go wrong?

a junky runs your health sector now so a junky running a huge chunk of everyones 401ks into the ground is par for the course your all going to die in a muddy shit filled ditch like the russians

Same as Trump and Republican politicians.

When smelling your own farts hit a full reality check

You mean the guy single handily responsible for decline in sales?

Something something woke mind virus.

Cooking the books?

Sept 30 2025

Oof

Snake oil sales master back in the business. He is going to ruin it in no time.

Let’s put the last guy who should be in charge of North America and Europe

Hitler going to Europe to revive sales. Sounds like a winning strategy!

LOL I see what you did there.

Now we know where Big Balls is going next

Hope you brought your chain saw

It’s not just the rebate. Energy Generation & Storage was a fast growing business (10 billion with 67% year over year growth) and then you have the whole FSD debacle. $8000 (down from $15000) to purchase FSD which is not realized: “We consider autonomous driving … less than two years away” (June 2016) Those buyers paid 15k on a promise that was never realized in almost 10 years.

No one wants to buy a Swasticar , Elon. You could give them away & people would not drive them.

Can he be fired when next quarter sales decline twice as much?

So…. He’s doing the exact opposite of what his investors and employees wanted? While the Tesla board has sold way over half a billion worth of shares? (Or is it over a billion by now?) Elon seems manically interested in doing business the old German bunker style.

Here I thought that rats are the first to leave a sinking ship……

Whilst the US regulatory regime was always poor and has now been gutted further, the EU tends to be far stricter. Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Amazon have all had billion dollar fines from them.

Don't forget the other one he expressed joy in that had no direct impact on him whatsoever, killing the world's foremost aid agency that was responsible for providing food and medicine to the poorest people on earth. He's a monster.

Wow this " if anyone can do it Soon can" attitude is amazing. He made some good moves buying a company before it got big but the dude is a drug clown. He is not as smart as he thinks he is and he'll botch this too

This reeks of desperation. Now he can lie about delivery numbers.

Who is driving tesla these days?

I guess we know what the Russian army will be driving from here on out

> I’d need them to throw in an insurance policy so they have to pay if it burns my house down before I can flip it. If they're giving me $60k to take a vehicle, I'll just park it in the street.

And his brother is on the board as well, so nepotism factor.

Theranos but still avoiding auguring in (for now)

It’s because in order to be a good firefighter, you have to be the kind of person who won’t break when you have to walk through fire in full gear. There’s a literal flame room that is part of their training. So you have to on some level “love the enemy” — this is a known psychological hazard and firefighters are actually taught to watch for signs of getting seduced to the flame side in themselves and their buddies, according to a neighbor kid who grew up to be a fireman. (He said the flame room test was terrifying but also awesome.)

Renault’s electric SUV looks impressive, too. And it’s not made by a Nazi…

Good. Another Cybertruck in making

Interesting perspective. And all the scarier!

Like the board of directors of most companies.

Heh, yah if the firefighter’s union is similar to, and as corrupt and powerful as, police unions, it would be next to impossible to get rid of bad ones. Hopefully, however, the firefighter culture is different and they don’t tolerate bad guys in their ranks like cops very often do.

No it isn't. The CEO of Ford gets paid about $125 per employee per year. That is all compensation in. And Ford sells a lot more vehicles than Tesla. Musk alone wants to get paid 50 billion dollars. That is equivalent to $500,000 per employee. Musk could pay the wage/compensation of the Ford CEO for 2000 years. Please do not compare this to most other companies.

It's all a good old boys club with most companies. The CEO are all bord members of their buddies companies. As long as they don't do anything majorly illegal or upset major stockholders all is good.

While you could legitimately argue many are paid too high, as a percentage of employee wages, typically they are not excessive. IE. Ford CEO could forgo his entire wage and the employees will only see a 125 dollar yearly increase. What you see on TV is not reality when you make that kind of statement. Ya there is a wealth inequality issue but there are not a bunch of board memebers sitting as old boys clubs. What is happening at Tesla and a few other companies (Reddit is one) is that they are taking billions in compensation. Not 20 million.

I don't watch TV but I have been an independent investor for decades and have been in a few investor suits for breach of duties. Honestly most companies are run by good old boys who loot the companies for their cronies. Now I just profit from the pump side and dump the stock near the peek and profit. I've made and lost more money on paper than you probably will ever earn by actual work or I've ever made that way. You too could be a paper millionare, I was in the dot-com era.

I made about 3 million in Vermillion Energy during the Covid period when oil prices went negative. Made also a great deal the last two oil crashes in 2000 and 2008 but not like I did during Covid. I also sold an wireless internet company/division for a 8 digit sum 2 years earlier and still sit on the board for two companies. One being the original company that split off the internet division. I also deal with a lot of small to large companies as part of the services but that is now minimal and mainly deal with government project. So you never know who you are talking to but when people make these kind of internet echo chamber claims, they typically are watching too much TV or they are on Facebook too often.

Should be an easy job. Since he can't sell his Nazi cars.

Jesus the hubris to think that him TAKING OVER is the right play here. Step BACK mate. Let people who don't do nazi salutes etc man the guns for a while. Unbelievable lack of self awareness and hubris.

maybe elon can do the nazi salute everywhere to score more points with his base