Dumbest investors of all time?
How media wants to spin. They're down double digits despite new model, but "better than previous quarter"
Unpaywalled https://archive.ph/vJSS6
shot: > “The sales numbers at this point are strong and we see no problem with demand,” the CEO said in an interview at the Qatar Economic Forum (May 2025). chaser: >[“Omead Afshar, Tesla’s vice president in charge of sales and manufacturing in North America and Europe, has reportedly been fired by CEO Elon Musk, according to Forbes.”](https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/26/elon-musk-reportedly-fires-teslas-top-sales-exec/)
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When robotaxi runs over pedestrians watch stock to pop another 10%
It’s amazing how Tesla investors will bend themselves into a pretzel trying to explain why it’s a good time to buy the stock
Anyone seriously doubt the accuracy of teslas SELF REPORTED delivery numbers? Especially involving china sales figures? Tesla and Elon are KNOWN for lying and faking capabilities. Remember the 2016 faked FSD video that an employee ended up admitting was faked and it crashed during filming but they omitted it? The one Tesla took down from their website after the truth came out? Remember Tesla allegedly attempting to fake sales in Canada to allegedly steal government EV incentives? How would the United States federal government even validate the accuracy of Tesla sales numbers in china? Elon could easily make an agreement with Chinese officials to support his fake delivery numbers in exchange for god knows what. Obviously a conspiracy theory but given Elon and teslas track record showing they’re willing to lie to and deceive both investors and customers…. I wouldn’t put it out of the realm of possibility “Oh look the Chinese sales went up to counter the massive decline in US sales!!” How would the SEC even be able to investigate this especially if the foreign entities are complicit. MASSIVE national security issue if china could have leverage over musk for helping with this given Elons companies… Very convenient that Chinese sales numbers would go up so much in Elons time of need. Especially when we know china would love to have leverage on Elon for various nefarious reasons. And the global head of manufacturing in from china? Literally part of the Chinese team? A week before this report had to go public? Very interesting…
I mean he dismantled the agencies tasked with stopping that. So bullish on pedestrian deaths, Musk 2028, some of you may die, and that's ok!
Also, pop another 15% after investigation determines some of the 10 pedestrians are illegals and therefore non-human, because MAGA.
You suppose if they start eating children at board meetings it would send the stock skyrocketing? Kind of seems like it.
You have NO idea how much we hate Musk now
Can't make a kiddie omelet without craking some kiddie skulls!
Some of you may die and that’s the price of progress. You’re a martyr.
R/Agedlikemilk?
Tesla somehow is able to do everything in house without checks and balances never understood it. They even have their own in house safety team instead of osha and guess what. They say plenty of things are are actually illegal are safe and fine. Literally bring it up as an employee and you’ll get screamed at by management and told “Well EHS says it’s fine”
Only if they Livestream it...
It’s because they tied up so many people’s 401ks in the stock it would be an absolute disaster for most and also all these “investors” have to explain why they dropped the ball so hard. It’s a giant race to the bottom right now.
Head of China Manufacturing is now the Head of Manufacturing for the whole company. Exactly the guy who would sign off on those numbers.
Lol a rock bottom rally
“We think this might actually be the signal that the worst is behind us”
Tesla rallies on delusion and hopium.
These investors always conveniently pop up when the stock tanks. It’s a stock that is inflated by various nefarious billionaire oligarchs.
The losses are baked in! ROBOTS HERE WE COMMMMMMMEEEEEEEE
Planned on selling 250,000 Cybertrucks a year. Actually selling 20,000. “Hey good news everyone! Sales have bottomed!!!”
The government lets this happen and then goes “OOPSIE” after every Enron level event we’ve seen the past 30 years. Then Elon got first hand access to the federal agencies responsible for auditing his companies and gutted them. I hope we get a documentary titled “Enron Musk” one day
“Well sales sucked .. but not as much as they could have sucked .. so .. calls it is”
100% I personally believe massive fraud is happening. Speculation on my part due to historical willingness to lie and stuff like this. If someone smells like shit then the most likely explanation is that they shit themselves
So a company valuation based on massive growth alone now has no growth is pivoting to we will have some growth someday and just have faith.
Spoiler alert: Tesla sales haven’t bottomed.
Securities analysis in shambles
It's the light at the end of the tunnel! Uh, that's an oncoming train.
Wow I wish I had your confidence that robotaxis would ever mature enough to operate with a human operator for it to actually do this.
It is like they have an excuse for everything.
they are optimists
All news is good news.
Tesla Investors: Now it knows what not to do!!! 😬
What happens if Trump sends Elon “back to Africa?” Up or down?
There is literally nothing these fuckers won’t justify and spin into good news for the stock. God it’s going to be glorious when it crashes lol
Even if they fire Elmo the Nazi, the brand is 💩 forever
Just 2025 things.
Deliveries, right? Oh, you meant sales to actual customers? Maybe we should have been more clear...
why do you think Elon went to Pentagon while the meeting on china was happening, and Trump got mad about it. BTW where do you see the number separation for chinese market?
A few pedestrian fatalities has been priced in, market is fine as long as they don't mow down an entire pedestrian mall
Lol stock rallies because sales have gone to shit and hit the floor. Makes sense.
Actually seriously not a bad idea of a strategy, as long as the bad news is actually reflected in the stock price not.... Whatever the f is happening here
When sales are bad, they say Tesla is not a car company. All of the sudden, this narrative has been changed to one that matters.
Please don't give them ideas like this.
Given their actions on Canada to try to "sell" them while some subsidizing was still happening, and they just lied and said they were sold yeah no I wouldn't believe shit.
Up. TSLA is a meme stock, so all events result in price rises.
The worst is behind us, but we’re rowing a boat.
That fkin headline... "Tesla Rallies on Investors Betting Vehicle Sales Can't Go Negative."
I don’t think they separate it in their public statement… for obvious reasons. They like to obfuscate everything. Which is also why they group “other models” for the sales they don’t want you to know details for…
‘Aliens” is indeed the official term. One does wonder who took the word ‘immigrant’ then?….. wait a minute the real aliens a ?/;;
True copium
Tesla stock price remains in fantasy land and clearly the investors live full time there. No sales have not bottomed out. Musk being pushed out has done nothing to change the situation.
The stock gets affected more by a social media spat than by sales. The pricing is madness and based purely on feelings
„Let me introduce our new very experienced Head of Global Sales and Logistics: Professor Hubert Farnsworth!“ Roaring Applause, Stock explodes like a Starship.
Next quarter: "ok, now they've really bottomed out this time"
Elon is run over by an out of control cybertaxi - Stock up 15%
Well hitting the bottom of the barrel usually means it’s empty
It’s absolute howling insanity. Sunk cost fallacy and casino investing, take your pick.
They have not bottomed. Who trusts the numbers released yesterday? Troy Teslike off by 30,000? I think not!
I smell a stinky rat.
yeah, about those robots... [https://coincentral.com/tesla-pauses-optimus-robot-output-following-leadership-shakeup/](https://coincentral.com/tesla-pauses-optimus-robot-output-following-leadership-shakeup/)
Future investment analyst sycophant quote, “Only 8 pedestrian lives were lost, and none were children. Look, society can’t advance without some sacrifices.”
They have bottomed... they are gonna stay there for a longgggg time.
LOL!
Well, if it's less safe for people to walk, more people will want to use taxis. So its makes the bigger market, definitely pump the stock.
This guy gets it.
I bet he's also on ketamine, so he understands master Elon's 4d chess master plan.
I don't know anyone who would buy one of these cars. They have so many issues before you look at the political statement they have become. Also EV mandates supposed to end, so even less reason to buy. Good luck with this meme stock.
So you’re saying these sales numbers are actually good compared to the future? Sounds like a buy signal to me!
My wife treats me the way Wall Street treats Tesla stock. Sure sometimes I spend most of our money on booze and expensive hookers, but she was expecting me to spend all of it on crack and that I would give her AIDS, so she’s very proud of me.
Prescription ketamine is actually pretty awesome for depression. But you take it once a week for six weeks, maybe again a year or two later.
Need to somehow make one run over a billionaire then they will give a shit
Growth company has declining sales and the stock rallies because the sales aren’t as shitty as expected but still shitty and not growing. Sounds legit.
You can play all sorts of games, but at the end of the day you need to be bringing in money to service the very hefty expenses Tesla accumulates. Even if you believe robotaxis and robotics are going to be a big money maker eventually, profits are at least a decade away. So you're going to have a company bleeding billions of dollars in cash every quarter for a decade in a high interest rate environment. The center cannot hold and there is only one end-game here. The only question is when will we see the panic inevitably set in.
How long can zero percent financing and steep discounts that pulls demand forward compounded now with the removal of electric vehicle subsidies / tax incentives for electric cars AND electric chargers keep Tesla propped up?
You'll never guess who head of sales is! He's an excellent negotiator and maybe found a way to 'sell' 50,000 cars just before the end of quarter.
Age? It’s been 1 month! I’ve got milk older than that in my fridge.
Artificial stock. Worthless now.
Honestly, I don't think that the investors are really as dumb as we think right now, at least not fully. I think what the top-level Tesla investors have realized is they are on a ship that could sink the moment one of them gets off. That if one of them decides to jump ship that it would crash everything, not just Tesla, but the wider market as a whole because $TSLA is part of the portfolios of many major retirements, and stock investment firms. They see the P/E ratio. They know the only thing holding up the stock is Musk's grifts. They know the stock is held up with popsicle sticks and ego. The thing is... It's a game of chicken. There's gonna be one large investor that evacs first. The first domino is gonna fall, and then... It crashes everything behind it. They choose to stay in for now because they know the moment that the stock crashes, their jobs are over, and so are the pensions, retirements, and investments of many corporations. They got pulled in by his lies, got sold on his ability to schmooze with the elites, and bet it all on red because they thought Musk was a good gambler. They overcommitted and they didn't realize until now. They didn't see the stupidity until they were 300 miles out in the ocean and their raft will disintegrate the moment one of them moves. It's like watching an eventual train wreck, except we're all standing on it.
‘Our vehicles have demonstrated military applications, perhaps isreal will buy a fleet to run over gazans’
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