Anyone care to explain this...

Waymo is gonna give everybody the month off now no worries there

This farce is Tesla's only hope to prop up the stock.

A musk company commiting fraud...........IMPOSSIBLE!

They’ve invented a shiitier 2 car version of a taxi causing more traffic.

Three passengers, two cars, for one trip

The first video is really coool, yeah baby, that's the future 😅 I mean, they do have a big marketing budget!

Enron was childsplay against Teslas fraud

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Cybercab (that’s what they call the futuristic thingy) and Robotaxi are two different things. Cybercab is a piece of Hardware people supposedly will be able to buy in 2026, solely for the purpose of renting it via a Tesla specific ride-hailing service. Robotaxi is said service that will be needed to use the Cybercab, because it doesn’t have steering inputs. It was clear from day one, that whatever service they will be offering in Austin would not be making use of that specific Cybercab Hardware, partly because there still isn’t any charging infrastructure for that but mainly because it’s really hard to put a safety driver in a car with only two seats and no wheel. Anyhow, both concepts are flawed in their own way, but together they become a major fuckup.

Dont underestimate elongs capability of bamboozling investors with the next best thing

This is objectively hilarious. It’s worse and more awkward than just getting a regular Uber. Elon is such a failhard!

It’s easy to explain my friend. The ‘cybercab’ might as well be two guys in a car suit. At best it’s a Model Y with a remote babysitter. It’s apparently meant to pump the stock more than it is to provide driverless cab rides.

A “safety guy” in the passenger seat.. AKA… a driver.

i mean, the robotaxis in the demonstration were probably assisted by humans just like all the optimuses. hes all wizard of oz and no tony stark.

Tesla Kool-Aid is strong. It's a step in the right direction but if you're unable to factor in Elon's impact than you will always be just "2 weeks away".

Waymo's PR folks are way more mature than me. I would have started a pointing and laughing ad campaign weeks ago.

DOGE peak efficiency 😉

enron was leons primer.

I was just thinking that. He looks super different than 5 years ago. But apparently in addition to the drugs, he also takes steroids without working out, which is what created the Santa Clause Belly.

Optimus robot is still out there

Have Elon & the Stans still not come to terms with the fact that more than half of the population would never purchase or use anything the Nazi Musk is involved in, regardless of quality? We're just....NO. Start with that, and then add the fact that his shit has become laughable, low quality junk and that Tesla's FSD is bugged out camera based junk not ready for public roads, and I'm like why are they even bothering.

The Cyber Belly

He’ll soon be charging $1000 to see the two-headed mermaid and the stock will double.

I'm wondering why they made it out to be a self driving autonomous vehicle you could get in and ride... But if it worked as it was displayed, why now do the vehicles need so much support? It clearly was a fantasy like their person in a robot suit was.

And why is the safety guy on the passenger seat, not on the driver seat?

I for one think the first day rollout went as well as Tesla need's it to. Uber had "self driving cars" with a safety employee back in 2016. Tesla FSD is going to be defined not by day one, but by its expansion. I for one expect Elon to claim it's "2 steps forward and 1 step back" and this continues to be the same product from 2022.

> This farce You don't know the power of the dark side of the farce.

It's exactly like the Boring Tunnel in Vegas. It was supposed to be autonomous vehicles, with a purpose made large capacity vehicle. Instead they have regular Tesla cars driving around in the tunnel, each with a salaried driver. And after years it did not get any better; they still do not have the autonomous people movers. This Robotaxi was pitched as autonomous purpose made cars, and it's become regular Tesla cars driving around with a paid safety driver. In fact it's worse because they put the driver in the front passenger seat so there's even less seats available. Exactly the same pitch and exactly the same degraded product launch.

*"Hi! I'm JohnnyCab! - Have a nice day bzzt beep bop"*

Or my BIL. He is such a big advocate for elon, he also thinks notsee salute wasn't a notsee salute.

It's early days, they're beta testing Edit, to clarify: this is a sensible step for them to take in their development. Overhyping and claiming they're already there? Such dishonest bullshit.

So you can say “we don’t have anybody in the driver’s seat” and for no other reason

Um, I get the hate on Tesla but this video was posted *eight* months ago. Just think - when this video was posted, Biden was still president! That’s how old this video is!

It's great that Tesla has managed to catch up to the tech level of the driverless cars in Phoenix in 2017

The cybercab event was on a pre-mapped closed course where they could add telemetry to every moving object so the cabs wouldn't run into stuff, and do whatever other tricks or shortcuts they needed to get things to work flawlessly. Austin is the real world where smoke and mirrors no longer apply.

I think they are also being remotely controlled, OR the safety person does in fact have a way to maneuver the vehicle. About 30 seconds into this video the CyberCoffin slams on its brakes in an intersection when it notices a cop. hmmmm https://youtu.be/GpARr8DVU2M?si=2tZAj2oVYS9C_H7N

They legit think that Tesla will be leasing FSD to other car companies by the end of the year and the market, bafflingly, goes with it.

I watched a live stream - 'safety' guy is more of a bouncer (big burly dudes in both rides I saw) not a backup driver. Making sure the right people are getting into the car (not some randoms), and that they get out when the ride is over. And that people aren't lighting fires inside the car, etc.

Wasn’t it Musk who showcased what he claimed was a robot but was really a human in a robot costume? Eeeesh. This guy.

The car slowed down too much and too late... it was being dangerous and they should improve it (but it looks like the same FSD available for most Tesla cars nowadays)

Early would have been like 8+ years ago.

Two cars, two drivers, 2 passengers. The safety driver supposedly sits on the passengers seat.

Edited my comment above to clarify: this is a sensible step for them to take in their early development. Overhyping and claiming they're already there for nearly a decade is the problem here.

Sounds like snake oil territory to me.

2 Cars 1 Cup

One of my partner's guilty pleasures is a fascination with steroid use and toxic workout culture (as in watching and reading about). She says Elon's "look" is a very textbook case of performance enhacing steroid use.

Here's a video of a guy taking a ride. There is a nice awkward silence from the "not-a-taxi-driver". https://youtu.be/yXv5xz0bHYQ

This comes from the company whose ‘revolutionary’ Vegas loop turned out to be Teslas with human drivers crawling through narrow tunnels. A far cry from the autonomous transport utopia originally promised. In other words, the robotaxi rollout seems perfectly consistent with Tesla’s track record of overpromising and underdelivering, courtesy of their narcissistic, drugged up nazi CEO, lord Elon

He needs to get safety drivers in the passengers’ laps. Specify your preferred gender and music when ordering. Call it disrobotaxi, encourage tipping, tint the windows….innovation, baby!

wait... you're wondering why they fabricated a cybercab-demo on a filmset that emulated a (at the time) non-existent ride-hailing service on prototype hardware that won't be available for a long time during an event aimed at influencers and stock analysts? Or are you wondering why they are using at least 3 safety nets now that they are starting to roll out their promised software? Because the answer is always: the stock-value. Imagine what would happen if 3 out of 10 robotaxi-cars crashed within the first week, after the system had been hyped for a decade.

It's funny cause in the tunnel they completely control the traffic and environment and yet still they don't trust FSD enough to use it. It will never reach state where it functions well enough. Not without complete overhaul of sensor suite.

It's a complete joke and would end any other company.

The myth that Tesla has advanced technology never dies.

>It was clear from day one, that whatever service they will be offering in Austin would not be making use of that specific Cybercab Hardware, partly because there still isn’t any charging infrastructure for that but mainly because it’s really hard to put a safety driver in a car with only two seats and no wheel. There's also the issue that Cybercabs do not exist.

Could it be that Elon lied?

>Edited my comment above to clarify: this is a sensible step for them to take in their early development. They aren't developing anything, are you that gullible?

I'm wondering why more people arent asking the question that if the con man CEO has been saying their cars can self drive or almost self drive (he has said both) and they released a video stating the cars can drive themselves and the driver is only sitting there for legal reasons...and another video from 2018 or so saying the model y was better than a human driver...and another video saying there would be more than 1,000,000 robotaxis on the road by 2019... why arent more people calling out the bullshit Tesla puts out and why they still think Tesla is winning in the self driving space?

Partly because Tesla is a cult and partly because some stock analysts have not a single clue about how tech works… well, some might but probably are misleading people on purpose to inflate the stock a bit more for person benefit.

Yes, indeed I am. I believe they're developing a waymo clone. You're really that sure they're not even trying?

Already done https://www.reddit.com/r/TSLA/s/tuT6NP6dN2

Tesla and Space X try a lot and still fail. It doesn't really matter.

They invented a train in which all the wagons need a driver.

It's sad because I see potential in the branch-like design of the entire Vegas strip Boring tunnel, but Elon has fucked it up by having cheap crappy bumpy and unsafe tunnel environments, single-tracking rather than dual corridor off-shoot tunnels, failing to develop automated vehicles, failing to implement high capacity vehicles with quick loading and easy stroller/wheelchair access, failing to properly design bypass sections, using dangerous>90° bends and sharp tunnel entrances. They are ruining a somewhat interesting concept with terrible & cheap tunnel construction, and ridiculous use of regular Tesla cars with a driver in each.

What’s Optimus? The next iteration of the meme?

That one is already in British Museum https://www.guidelondon.org.uk/blog/museums-galleries/top-10-objects-surprise-british-museum/#:~:text=1.,almost%20two%20hundred%20years%20ago.

It will be accompanied by a white displaced refugee farmer from South Africa

And the wagon can only seat a couple people

>Have Elon & the Stans still not come to terms with the fact that more than half of the population would never purchase or use anything the Nazi Musk is involved in, regardless of quality In a recent thread I pointed out that the whole "rear seat passengers can't find the mechanical/backup release for the door in an emergency" issue was entirely the result of boneheaded design decisions resurrecting long-solved problems, and I was met by a stan that pulled out the old "YOU DON'T EVEN OWN ONE" argument. Even before Elon went completely off the rails, it shouldn't be at all surprising that there's a direct relationship between me finding the car annoying to use and me not wanting to buy one.

They've invented the stupidest conceivable version of a metro.

If they did that GOOGL could have a green day finally, God forbids that.

Insulin and Human Growth Hormone are believed to cause that enlarged belly (bubble gut).

It will be huge, I told my coworker about it and she immediately asked "like a Rosie?" (The robot from The Jetsons) and she now wants one, people will go crazy for this puppet, believe me, Tesla to the Moon! xD

> I believe they're developing a waymo clone. You're really that sure they're not even trying? Tesla has been lying about almost everything for at least a decade, most especially anything FSD related.

Bring back the [Benchseat!](https://www.thehogring.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Hog-Ring-The-Front-Bench-Seat-is-Back-from-the-Dead.jpeg)

It added about $100 billion to market cap. This is approximately $5 billion dollars per robotaxi on the road.  At the current price of $5 per ride each taxi only needs to do  2,750 rides per day. For each year. For for the next 1,000 years. To break even on the market cap gain.  This is assuming no vehicle cost; no maintenance cost, no energy cost, no infrastructure cost, unlimited vehicle lifespan and a free employee sitting in front to hit that emergency button.  People are so optimistic about these robotaxi's that they are basing the stock price on possible 2035 earnings.

You can say nazi

I guess you could cram more than two into the backseat of the the cars running around the loop, yes

This is the ideal robot taxi. You may not like it, but this is what peak efficiency looks like. edit: /s for the slow ones

Those 3 passengers had families 😭

Not even that. They use rubber tires, while steel wheels on a train car last much longer.

I’m sorry, but this is an exceptionally terribly critique. Obviously, with a trillion dollar company, one should real-world test things out safely and slowly before jumping straight in (hence supervisors etc.).