Faster path towards main battery failure?

I would skip Tesla and get a more reliable brand. Tesla has been accused of installing used batteries as new, overcharging and lying to customers. They will screw you over at some point in your ownership, 100%

You should sell your Tesla.

Batteries are improving all of the time, it isn't the 1970s any more. If you manage your battery then it isn't much of an issue.

Imagine the battery of course enormous amounts of Records on everything you attempt to do with it and don't find some loophole to say "oh you're abused your battery", sorry.

My battery had a random issue and they replaced it on warranty for free. Well, the replacement was a used battery with WAY MORE DEGRADATION THAN MY ORIGINAL BATTERY. So, I did everything right and still got absolutely fucked. Just enjoy your car.

You expect Tesla to last? That’s a laugh of the day. Battery is your least worry then. That’s the only thing that Tesla did right. Heres a tip, read Teslas service bulletins about replacing coolant, transmission, etc fluids, which they replace on the sly on other maintenance. Those are the key for not letting your Tesla to rot.

Yeah. Batteries are a lottery, if you get a bad one, no matter what you do, you lose. Of course, some brands like VAG cars, have modular batteries, and they replace the bad modules, for a reasonable expense. But with dinosaurs like Tesla, it’s all or nothing.

They are probably deep underwater, so that is not an option.

I feel that batteries are something that has been figured out at this point but people naturally still have anxiety about it. Nobody blinks an eye about a car engine costing $17K that might need replaced.

I have had car engines last longer than Tesla has been a company

They are being sued for using an algorithm for their odometer and overstating miles driven to get the cars out of warranty faster. Thats their approach v building a long lasting anything to avoid warranty repairs. https://www.jalopnik.com/1835618/tesla-odometers-wrong-mileage-lawsuit-details/

Dude, engine swaps are couple thousands, not over ten thousand. Same should be with battery swaps, monolithic batteries are plain irresponsible.

They give you a shitty reman pack designed to last just long enough to get you out of warranty.....

If you’re putting in a $17K engine it better have a blower and at least 700 bhp. And you still have the original on a stand in the garage.

The cult have somehow convinced themselves that refurbished replacement batteries are better than getting a new one. I wish I was making that up

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No literally when I complained about it on tesla forums people were so upset with me that I would dare complain. How dare I lol

The general wisdom says EV Batteries last 8-10 years. The AVERAGE age of cars on the road in the USA is 13 years. It's safe to say that the vast majority of cars on the road never have an engine swap. Take it from there.

Exact same thing happened to me. Refurb battery with worse range, thanks a lot Elon

This is an EV issue honestly, not a Tesla one. My parents own a 2012 chevy volt, and the hybrid battery has failed on it. The gas engine activates after just a couple of miles, and as a result it gets worse MPG than a regular car. I did a 80 mile trip with mostly highway miles, and the car only got 22MPG because the hybrid battery has failed. Even though I charged it in the morning it had to use the gas engine almost immediately.

Except that your premise, that the “general wisdom” is that batteries last only 8-10 years, is shamefully wrong. I say “shamefully” because no one who knows anything at all about EV battery technology has said any such thing any time relevant to the present. The most recent studies show that EV batteries have an expected life of 20 years or more. [Existing EV batteries may last up to 40% longer than expected](https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2024/12/existing-ev-batteries-may-last-up-to-40-longer-than-expected) And even among the 1st Generation of EV batteries that are now 15 years old, the vast majority are still on the road. [New Study: How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last?](https://www.recurrentauto.com/research/how-long-do-ev-batteries-last) Sourcing your information responsibly is an import part of functioning in a digital world. Anyone telling you that EV batteries only last 8-10 years is not a credible source.

But how will I convince myself that gas cars are the superior tech and EVs are woke trash if I don't cherry-pick data?

There's an EV dealer in the UK called Richard Symonds and he bought a 2021 Model 3 at auction that had done 218,000 miles in 3 years. He bought it 'blind' just to see how much wear and tear it had and the original owner saw the first video and contacted him to give him the full history of the vehicle. Hopefully I've [linked the correct video here](https://youtu.be/eQRXh3HSbiA?si=UUmxQVXyWUZMp4dv) Not long was the car in surprisingly good condition, very little had ever gone wrong with the car. Remember, to achieve that mileage in such a short time it has to have covered 200 miles every day since the day it was delivered!

okay

Hybrids are lose-lose I’m afraid. The batteries are too small, and get used full to almost empty, degrading them quickly. On longer journeys the electric motors and batteries are just added mass. A well kept EV where you rarely go (and more importantly stay) outside of the 20 - 80% charge range will keep for decades. Especially if you mostly charge at home or a max 22kW charging station.

This should be class action worthy. You can't sell someone a faulty product and replace it with a more used version of that product. That's not how warranty's work...

Yeah, the 2nd gen volt especially was nice when it first came out, but they do not hold up well past the 10 year mark, once the battery fails the car is totalled (except maybe the prius because its high production enough for new hybrid batteries to be affordable)

I never thought I’d see such cult behavior over a car.

I mean it's similar to Apple when Steve Jobs was in his prime cult-leader status. Whenever a feature was broken about Apple products people would just complain that you're even complaining instead of just not using whatever wasn't working for you.