After shareholders voted against it. 🤔
Hope they invest a lot more. full integration tn the car. ari and tesla native voice gets confuse. hope ari will control the car sooner or later.
🤮 I am glad I sold all my shares already. That’s so sad to see Elon destroying this brand even more
They aren’t interested in cars anymore. They’re gonna try to make this a robot company.
Brother he’s been claiming that shit for years
Lmao what a conflict of interest... Elon is scum.
The service centers are horrible these days. I would not be surprised if the stock price has a major crash over the next 5 years.
It's a vibes stock already. Not supported by any fundamentals.
Yes, a non-binding shareholder proposal in **November 2025** that would have authorized a potential investment in xAI **did not pass**, largely due to abstentions being counted as "no" votes under Tesla's bylaws. But it was non-binding shareholder proposal
Yeah but now they’re killing the S and X to do it.
How is that not a giant conflict of interest
As someone whose car has been at the service center for 2+ months, "waiting for parts" definitely agree.
Ironic they claim that their robot is working on their Austin factory and yet there hasn't been a single photo, video or even word of mouth claiming this is true... Also the fact that the thing still can't even bend at the waist so it is basically as useful as a robotic arm.... Which was already being used
Side note: Clicking that link took me to X for the first time in about a year. Have all the advertisers left? All I saw were ads for custom t-shirts. They must be hemorrhaging cash.
Massive breach of Musk's fiduciary responsibility, and criminal self-dealing. A sane board would press charges, not just fire him. The Tesla board, however, are sychophants.
Me with a draft letter threatening arbitration for my recent service center experience…:
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You remove the abstain votes, and it was mostly positive.
There were more yes votes than no but it did not reach a high enough participation to pass due to most voters abstaining
That’s been true for a decade+
TSLA is pretty much a mega cap spac
This is awesome and what the Tsla shareholders wanted!
stock price won't crash because of horrible service center.
Going full Tyrell Corporation.
This has gotta be a money laundering scheme.
And it is going to happen. Timing is just off.
Oh it's working there. It takes the dirty coffee mugs from the break room counter and drops them in the sink.
lol that’s actually a really eloquent way to put it!
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May have seen by now https://techcrunch.com/2026/01/28/tesla-is-killing-off-the-model-s-and-model-x/
So no cars big enough for a family and a truck no one wants.
Yea so they voted against it lol.
Well if that mattered then it wouldn't passed. But it didn't so....
Not really. Better stated to say it did not pass. Either way...
Why criminal? Do you think shareholders will get a poor return on their money for this? I’d love to invest directly into xAI, and now I have a way.
Well no... Just one way because it didn't pass lol.
If musk is acting in the best interest of xAI instead of Tesla it would be considered criminal.
Hyundai owns 80% of Boston Dynamics.. they are still a car company.
Solar City has entered the chat
Indeed, will age like milk
Know what else can do that task? A robotic arm that they already had deployed in the factory lol.... Hell I had a robotic arm make me a mixed drink at the airport... Wait I know what Optimus can be used for... They can shove an Optimus on one of those boxes and have it make mixed drinks from things are are within arms reach without having to bend over!!!
Sorry... Solar city? Never heard of it... Sounds like vaporware
Tesla owner a big piece of one of the largest foundational models of AI is a good investment. I’m happy as a share holder.
SBF part 2
Have a great day.
Elon's shell game. Reminds me of SpaceX buying a bunch of Cybertrucks.
Spacex when
Is there actually a difference, though?
Who’s going to do anything about it?
Yeah and they are focused on cars. Elon is bored of cars and doesn’t want to compete.
He literally poached talent and resources from Tesla to create xAI, and now he’s convincing Tesla to buy back into this company (at an inflated valuation) to save it from the mountains of cash it’s burning. He’s just using Tesla as a piggy bank for his pet AI projects while abandoning the sustainability mission that Tesla was created for.
there’s a recently added location within driving distance and the service was great, no issues, and the loaner vehicle is also nice
but the other locations nearby are unprofessional and understaffed
Nope. Reread it.
We’re not talking about if it mattered. The claim was made that they voted against it. They did not.
It’s more like… TSLA voters abstaining didn’t really care about it, so they just didn’t vote for it. Which can be very easily interpreted to mean “Sure, whatever.”
https://preview.redd.it/mzue4r1cw6gg1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d03ab7a86eec697c8f98e36bd90ca3cff038dc90 My current loaner vehicle was given to me like this, and it smells like piss inside the car
How is it abandoned? I never became an investor for that anyways. I don’t see how it’s abandoned but it’s also represents a small % of investors
You missed out on the Temu ads and crypto scams?
That’s not how voting works though
I guess so. That’s a wild fall from grace.
Fire musk and the stock tanks. The stock is the product.
It was known in advance that abstentions would effectively count as "no" votes due to the threshold requirements.
Hopefully it improves, but I've been disappointed in the xAI integration in my 2024 M3P. It doesn't really get the navigation questions right and the lack of natively multimodal input makes it feel antiquated compared to Gemini Live or ChatGPT Advanced Voice Mode.
it’s a shame they don’t have better standards across all service stations and let things like that happen. you’d expect better considering the cost of most service appointments
You wrote fraud wrong
It feels kinda like the difference between not guilty and innocent.
This is kind of the answer too. If the AI game keeps running, this will be a big payoff. Plus tesla is already valued as a robot AI company.
It’s a good investment regardless of the fact that it’s owned my Elon. Look at how the valuation of xAI has gone. We actually already missed a ton of upside investing this late. It’s growing faster than Tesla. Always invest in the opportunity you have access to that will reap the greatest growth. They have $40B+ in cash. Can’t just have it sit there. What do all these critics suggest? Stock buy back? Screw that. Let’s keep investing in new technology that will benefit the company.
It’s not a conflict. It’s vertical integration.
You're talking to a child
What's your point?
If 80% of your sales come from selling cars, you’re a car company.
But there were **more yes votes than no votes**. Convenient detail to leave out. It didn’t “not pass” because “no” won—yes won, there just weren’t enough total votes to make the overall motion official.
There's what you are financially and there's what you are aspirationally. Musk clearly think Tesla's destiny is not that of a "car company"
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The market killed the S/X
Yeah, definitely doesn’t have to do with a history of rash and dumb decisions. There’s absolutely a market for luxury EVs but Elon is too arrogant to realize people don’t want falcon doors, don’t want steering yokes, they want wipers that work, they want a shifter, they don’t want to be fucked by empty promises, and they just want their $120k car to just work and stop changing. Not to mention dancing on stage with a chainsaw as he sells out America.
Of course. But the mistakes that led to the S/X dropping in volume happened half a decade ago , when that refresh should’ve been a full new model with real premium materials, worthy of the price tag.
Yeah that’s my point, it wasn’t “the market” that killed it because there absolutely is a market for that type of car
What a joke
>**Tunneling** or **tunnelling** is [financial fraud](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_fraud) committed by "the transfer of assets and profits out of firms for the benefit of those who control them".[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunneling_(fraud)#cite_note-1) In legal terms, this is known as a [fraudulent transfer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraudulent_transfer), such as when a group of major [shareholders](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shareholders) or the [management](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management) of a publicly traded company orders that company to sell off its assets to a second company at unreasonably low prices. The shareholders or management typically own the second company outright, and thus profit from the otherwise disastrous sale. Tunneling differs from outright theft because people who engage in tunneling generally comply with all of the relevant legal procedures; it is thus a subtler scheme than simply writing checks from a company to a private bank account. While people widely agree that tunneling is unethical, penalties for it vary widely; some states impose criminal sanctions, whereas other states provide either for civil suits only, or for no sanctions at all. [Tunneling (fraud) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunneling_(fraud))
If you know that abstaining counts as a no vote, then there will be voters who abstain instead of voting no. You can't conclude that yes won.
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"Tesla’s investment was made on market terms consistent with those previously agreed to by other investors in the financing round"
There are things more important than money
True, but both doesn't hurt.
Not when abstaining means no in their bylaws.
Not really. That’s what poor people say in attempt to escape reality.
What do you mean? What fraud?
Is there no moderation here? Most top level comments are just negative Nancys. Are they here for a tap on the back? Pathetic.
SpaceX as well.
Except literally not. That argument taken to its limit is “if you know that the vote doesn’t matter at all, then regardless of whether you vote yes/no/abstain you’re voting for whichever action Elon ultimately takes—which was equivalent to ***yes***”. Any way you characterize it, yes had more votes, objectively and in effect.
It's not saying the vote doesn't matter at all, it's just saying that no and abstain both equal no, while yes only means yes.
there's a bigger market to focus on.
It's called a bubble for a reason.
I can smell your EDS from here
What reason is that? I’ve been hearing bubble for years now. I agree that on the edges it’s frothy, but I don’t expect a dot com style bubble
Why are there so many musk haters in these subreddits?
Dont try to argue with people like him, he will agree to anything Elon does MAGA style.
And investors knew that ahead of time. I’m sure plenty of people abstained from voting because they knew it would count as a vote no. I’m not gonna use effort to tell someone no when we both agreed no contact was gonna be counted as the same thing.
Tesla bought Solar City a while back. (Elons solar company)
Ya I am aware... They also list one of their primary products as the solar roof tiles, so...
History repeats itself — SolarCity hijinks. I
Which is why Tesla is just another Berkshire Hathaway now.
Tide is turning.
If it didn't pass may as well be a no. No vote is a no vote.
More internal money laundering
Enron
The S and X combine for 5 percent of the sales. Not worth it from a business standpoint.
Maybe you shouldn’t pee in your loaner then
You deserve to be called a slur
Maybe you’re right 🤔
why would i give my competitor money when i own an other company that makes a product i can use?
Hyundai isn’t shutting down production lines to build robots that nobody wants though
What does Enron have to do with Tesla's investment in xAI?
How about the news yesterday that SpaceX are in talks to merge with xAI, or Tesla?!
Hate to break it to you, but a proper refresh would bot have saved them. The market for luxury EVs exists just like the market for EV trucks, but they are still very small markets barely worthy of a dedicated factory and contingent on the EV subsidies. It's not a coincidence that after the Big 'Beautiful' Bill passed and removed a crucial revenue stream of other companies buying carbon credits from Tesla, that the company does a hard pivot to other ventures.
I just think Tesla is overvalued and could cost a lot of people their savings. I hope I'm wrong. I just don't think this company is close to it's current valuation.
Have we seen any video of the robots that weren't teleoperated?
They can't keep grifting with the car stuff as the numbers are starting to catch up.
And that was his brother's company as well. Def seemed conflicty.
Is the Grok child porn and mechaHitler a business model?
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I disagree. I've had my car 7.5 years and, in my experience, the service center used to be much more efficient.
I have had mine a similar time. In the beginning it was backed up a little more. Then it got good except for you couldn’t call. Now it’s going downhill and I have to frequently wait for superchargers on long trips.
Except Berkshire Hathaway has a history of earnings to help validate its valuation.
It’s pathetic that mods aren’t just catering opinions to your preferred view? If you like this move, explain why? Pretty recently shareholders did not vote in favor of an investment like this. So the popular sentiment that “isnt being moderated” is similar to shareholders of $TSLA
Correction, its just another Berkshire Hathaway but only invests in Felon's companies.
Not really, a few years ago they were growing fast enough that it was credible they got to their valuation. Now that they are declining in a growing market that is much harder to believe.
Yeah that applies to every american company.
That's basically why Elon just bought X (xAI owns X) with SpaceX money
They have a lot of money now that model x will not be built
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