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Meh, cell connectivity is good enough and I never felt like I needed starlink. But guess if I lived in a remote area I might get the mini?
I find the cell service good around 90% of the time but it would be good to make that 100% especially as features like summon and ultimately banish rely on network connectivity.
Why did they file a patent for this? This is not new. I guess I need to read the patent. Maybe they are doing different. But, vehicles with satellite connectivity has been around. Of course, nice when it’s integrated. And, outside indoors (parking structures), this serve well for those in rural areas. I
I already have Starlink in my car. Confirm it rocks
Oh 100% is better than 90%. As long as premium connectivity doesn’t double in price for this. I’m fine with 99% here in the Bay Area
Great for national parks where there's no cell service. Maps don't work right without it.
Yeah but that seems like the exception for most people. I’m not against 100% coverage. I just don’t want to pay for it in my connectivity plan “just in case”.
I’d so much rather have some luxury and a smooth (quiet) ride.
Both this article and the article it references are making up the word Starlink. The patent only talks about RF transparent glass. Could just as likely be to upgrade GPS receivers. IIRC the driverless Robotaxis have some special redundant GPS/comms for remote monitoring and control.
I get that. Living in Utah I would gladly pay for that for National Park trips and we have a number of dead spots including my office in a very well populated area.
I travel over the coquihalla highway in BC, Canada at least 2 times a month to visit my wife. There are stretches over the highway where there are no cell reception. So I would definitely opt for that option to reach emergency services. People have been stuck on the highway when semis have jackknifed (regular occurrence) and be stuck on the highway for up to 8-12 hours in freezing temps. So having the ability to call emergency services is a big plus
I don't want to pay for starlink in my car. I already have a phone and it works great in tree cover.
I've never been to a national park without cell service, they all either have cell connection or have no roads anyway here. But GPS should always work without any connectivity.
The starlink through t- mobile works good also..
Mini works perfectly. Only word of caution, do not leave your car in a position where it is tilted left or right side, that’ll force you to restart the device and will take sometime before alignment calibration is complete.
It’s for Toll tracking
Sounds interesting, what’s your use case for it?
IMHO what Tesla will actually do is use Starlink's direct to cell feature that they're rolling out to replace domestic carriers and dependence on local cell towers. They'll just roll it into the existing premium connectivity price, but instead of patchy service you'll get a consistently "good enough" data service pretty much anywhere whilst Musk keeps all that money in house.
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These blogs are absolute trash.
Tesla is definitely focusing more and more on B2B commercial applications. This isn’t for consumers and Instagram posts or Netflix in the cars, although I’m sure there’ll be some of that. This is for Farming, construction, shipping and all sort of other industries that need to operate outside of ideal conditions. And since it’s the U.S., let’s not forget about military applications. :/
Jerkin while FSD
I think it will be bigger if they put solar panels for rooftop on the car
I do the same, I work at remote locations sometimes
Hello fellow Canadian :) I’m living in the US now and cell phones have a satellite mode now and you can reach emergency services. Is that available in Canada?
Hi fellow Canadian! I recently got an iPhone 17 pro and it has satellite texting but not sure about satellite calling to emergency services. Government of Canada says it should be available to phones with the feature “although reception may be a problem “ as a direct quote on their site. There’s a sign up to beta test Rogers’ satellite coverage for cellphones but not sure if I’m eligible as a Fido customer
I get they can’t guarantee reception and if it’s in beta, then it’s not as reliable as the good old landline 911. But cell phone satellite service uses StarLink so Tesla isn’t going to be better.
It’s obviously the goal as part of a fully vertical integration. They will save a lot on the subscriptions for the local teleproviders. Just a matter of time.
GPS works but the maps don't. All you get is a blue line to follow on a blank map, which is functional but not by much. And that's only if the car recognizes the address you try to navigate to, because you can't search for anything.
Being able to rent a Starlink from a Tesla dealership for a month at a time would be cool. Could be a fee of $100 with a deposit for the worth of the dish+terminal that can be cancelled upon return of the equipment in good shape.
Will there be another Tesla soon
Mostly to be first so they don’t get sued by someone else who files a similar patent.
Yellowstone has virtually no coverage. During tourist season it's at capacity and disconnects frequently even in the spots with coverage on this map. Maps will not work without cellular unless you know the specific street address. Can't just enter "Old Faithful" and navigate there. https://i.imgur.com/dvWhqHv.jpeg
Same with almost all of the Utah national parks. https://i.imgur.com/Nzni4DK.jpeg
I’ve had starlink in my Y for over a year. Works perfect. In fact I’m posting this using it now as we drive down the road.
I use mine for road tripping. Gives us cell phone service and the car never looses connectivity. Just drove from Colorado to Oregon and it worked great the whole time.
You should visit RMNP. 2 min after you drive through the gates all service is 0.
Standby is only 5.00 a month so I think it’s a no brainer.
Loses. Not looses.
What's RMNP?
a star link in the car would rock! Also not affected by SF blackout for sure!!
Truly, we are living in the future! This is even better than flying cars.
Curious, do you keep the account inactive until you're about to go road tripping?
Good point. But, it's obvious patent at this point and already in cars. So, normally, the patent office wouldn't grant it. Of course, they should submit anyways as you pointed out to be first to claim it if the patent office allows it.
Yeah I pay the $5 standby fee. That still works for basic usage like making phone calls email, googling things etc. You just can’t stream. It’s capped at .5 mbps. I then pay for the unlimited or 50 GB plan depending on my trip length. Right now I’m on a 2 week road trip and I got the unlimited which was prorated for the rest of my billing cycle at $46.00. We used 28 GB in 2 days having everything connected to it. 2 phones, the Tesla, my partner was working from the passenger seat remotely logged into his work computer. We watched Netflix at each charging stop as well. I anticipate by the end of the trip we will have used close to 150-200 GB. When we get home I put it in standby mode again.
I thought you could search for things if you download the map of an area to your phone. Perhaps they need to add that functionality to the car.
Cannot search. Only address search, no location names. I would love the ability to download offline maps, but that's not possible on Tesla.
You just have to download the map when you have cell service, and save it to offline maps. then you can use the GPS just fine without cell service.
or it can just be something they made and patented it and have no plans to do anything with it.
You can lose cell signal in most of California without trying too hard
There’s no point to that when the starlink mini goes for ~300 on sale
Not everyone wants that expense though, especially since you’re now charged a fee if your service isn’t in use. If you have usable internet at home, you might not have a need for Starlink. So offering rental may be a good idea, as long as the legal terms cover paying for any damage that might happen (such as leaving the dish on a car roof unintentionally).
But with your $100 dealer fee you’d come out worse after 4 rents. And the idle fee is peanuts. That’s so much unnecessary logistics
Sure, if someone wants to buy it, it’s a better deal. But if someone only wants it for, say, 2 weeks or a month every few years, it basically works out.
Yeah again, way too many logistics to provide an alternative for something that isn’t that expensive to begin with.
Just do it on your phone then. Offline maps works really well on Google maps
You should try OsmAnd. Can download all of North America to your phone ahead of time. Uses GPS to work doesn't need live data connection.
I can also download Google Maps, but my car navigation is nicer and FSD works with navigation.
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