Saw this in Fresno.
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Nice to see these back on the road! Perhaps they never left, but reports have been rare, and thank you OP!
I’ve seen a few of these- super cool!
And it’s not broken down😲 Truly a rare sight
How does it supercharge?
That's pretty cool. I have yet to see one here in Canada. Not sure if there is any Tesla Semi even drives up to Canada from those company that already taken delivery of them.
Does anyone know if the semi offer any kind FSD? Would be interesting to adjust for trailer length and whatnot.
I only ever see the frito lay ones driving in the Bay Area. Joke is that it can only haul things if it weighs close to a bag of chips
I wonder what the problems are and why they don't release the Semi? Is it the charging infrastructure needed or is it more to do with the tech just not being advanced enough yet?
Pretty neat. PepsiCo loves to be on the cutting edge of things. Coca-Cola still driving same big red trucks from the early 2000’s still.
They megacharge at 750kW peak
Where at?
When I worked in service for Tesla I did all the training modules for the Semi for funsies and it does have all the cameras and other applicable hardware for the time, but no version of FSD at that time (this would have been early 2024 before the big layoffs). That may have changed and I know it WAS mentioned in the training modules for the ADAS systems that the intent was for them to also be FSD to further ease the driving for truck drivers.
In Modesto, Sacramento, and Fresno. Here's an article with some relevant info: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semis-18-megachargers-pepsico/
There’s only a few built between Cali and Nevada I think (you can feel free to google it yourself if you’d like)
Probably at their warehouses
EV on trucks doesn't make sense. They are too big and heavy. There is a reason why diesel trucks are great for trucks and EV are great for small vehicles. 😉
They are still finishing the new factory in nevada made specifically for semi, and also improving the design until the mass production
They have designed, built and released the cybertruck after they announced the Semi and Roadster. I think it's got to be the design isn't right or the charging infastructure is too big an outlay at this time.
It was just a lower priority but they still built the entire factory for it, which is now nearly finished, and volume production should start in q1/q2 2026. Charging infrastructure is not really an issue for short/medium haul as they can simply be charged overnight at warehouses.
That’s at Blackstone and Bullard in Fresno, see that Pepsi Tesla semi all the time
Yeah for certain routes that stay the same, charging at the warehouse will be fine. For the Semi to truly take over, like Tesla cars have, they will need charging infastructure to be built out to a similar level as the cars. Otherwise it's a bit of a limited/niche product.
Pepsi only uses it to haul chips. Other heavy truck mfgs are beginning to produce class 8 trucks as well so the Tesla semi might be DOA
They built an entire semi factory which is close to completion now.
I think it's way too early to be jumping to conclusions. There are obviously issues, but once they are worked out, the Semi could be a highly successful product. It could be a flop too, but it's way too early to tell.
Freight trains are big and heavy too and they’re powered by electric motors. The diesel engine is just to power the generator. With the Tesla semi, the question is really down to can they put enough battery in it to be useful and is charging that battery economically viable for businesses.
It would be cooler if Coca Cola used these Tesla trucks. Much more iconic brand than Pepsi
When I worked for frito a few years back all I know is the OTR drivers HATED the Teslas. The centered steering wheel is apparently awful and there was way too much charging infrastructure to figure out and folks were getting stranded. They all said it was like the thing was designed by people who had never driven a truck. But they were basically just going from like Manteca to Sacramento so idk where it's at now. Saw one last week while traveling 99 south so they're back on the road I guess.
Bingo. Well put.
The operate completely differently. Coca Cola doesn’t own local distribution or bottling . Pepsi owns the whole production. The old coke trucks are your local bottlers trucks
You just need the infrastructure: https://youtu.be/4L6gx_RFmSs?si=s_pycffTNJyZR7aX
Didn’t they showcase a truck train with some form of FSD in use or am I misremembering that?
With current changes to charge costs if Tesla carries over their consumer pricing model to the Semi charging infrastructure they are truly dead on arrival. A simple 6 hour round trip for Thanksgiving was about 25% more costly than gasoline for my wife and I at Tesla’s superchargers due to their new pricing rollouts nationwide.
You know what would make sense on a big rig though? Hybrid diesel. The battery would help to begin accelerating, then the motor takes over at road speeds. Big rigs waste a lot of time and fuel accelerating from a dead stop.
Tesla semis will only be used for local deliveries not cross country, the majority of semis are used for this type of delivery. So charging infrastructure is just needed at whatever factory or warehouse they sleep in at night. They have enough range to run all of their daytime shipments and return to base.
I agree! 100%
True — they are all independent bottlers across the usa since ccr dissolved.
Does it cost 25% more over the whole year for you? Just picking a holiday charging amount to say that it’ll be doa doesn’t make sense. The semi will charge mostly overnight at the facility ( its “home”), at cheaper electricity rates, just like most people charge at home.
If it’s one less gas semi of the road, it’s still a good thing. Why waste all that gas to haul something so light? 😉
Well seeing as the supercharging rates are going up (same price the past 30 days as the past week and today) and gas is going down… Actually if I exclusively supercharged I would pay between 15 and 30% more than an average gas vehicle. We’re comparing to diesel, not premium fuel with semis. We’re also looking at long hauls where you only get one “station charge” to start your trip and a “refuel” before the next one. Everything else will have to be en route public charging. Tesla has decided that dynamic and high priced charging is the way to go with their new supercharging team. Makes sense they would go silent about the Semi in the same time period since they know it is no longer cost effective with their current electricity pricing strategy. If all their personal vehicle owners found out that Semi’s paid half the rate they do because of some negotiations the would lose it and while there’s no such thing as bad PR I don’t think Tesla wants to deal with that noise at the moment.
Nice! Can’t wait to see one out here in Midwest, it’ll be past the test phase by then.
You still have to imagine they almost require some form of DCFC for daily use. You don’t charge a 500kWh pack overnight even on level 2.
I'll go ahead and tell the folks at Volvo to throw in the towel (they delivered their 5,000th eSemi back in June)
I think tesla already has a public megacharger route planned between Arizona and California.
After zooming in on the pic I see what looks like a human driver?
I see the yellow/red Frito-Lay one all the time on the 99 too.
That’s pretty neat. Thanks for the information.
I don’t think any businesses will be using public superchargers in their current form to charge semis.
Waiting for the BOYCOTT PEPSI trolls to show up
Sounds like another reason to put the semi on the back burner. With no MW capable public charging en masse currently these vehicles are simply end of route delivery vehicles and they’d be better off moving towards a cargo van design for most of those businesses. Heck Walmart has gone EV in house with their vans and is kicking out 5,000 Supercenters with fast chargers in the next 5 years.
They're uncommon to see, but you do see them in the valley quite a bit.
I think they route through the valley, I see them from fresno to Stockton a lot (Pepsi and frito liveries) and there's a couple Saia ones in Stockton
I believe most of Tesla semis will be used for regional/local delivery where they will be able charge “at home”. Not sure if it’s still true but I remember reading a statistic that majority of truck hauls are less 250 miles.
You mean the routes being replaced with electric vans? Huh, seems like I already covered that.
Are those still a thing? Haven’t heard about those in ages.
huehuehue
I was beginning to think I just made up the Tesla Semi Trucks cuz I never see any anywhere or hear anyone taking about them (even from Tesla)
You mean other than the enormous dedicated factory they’re building specifically for the new Semi?
“There are obviously issues” lol. Yes obviously. Based on….
Latest version was just revealed at the shareholder meeting last month. Can’t blame Tesla if you aren’t engaged.
Latest version was just shown last month at shareholder meeting. Not sure what to tell you.
Cant zoom in rn. Is that the kurger bing logo?
The fact hasn't been released and it's taking a long time to develop. It's not rocket science.
Saw one a few years ago (Pepsi) delivering to a Walgreens near my house. I got a pic but I'm sure you know what they look like
My guess is the charge infrastructure. These Pepsi trucks return to distribution center nightly and are able to charge.
I’m not blaming Tesla-I just don’t follow Tesla like I used to anymore so the average consumer will probably think they canceled the project as well. I mean it’s been almost a decade. (8years) glad to see these are rolling out
Frito lay in Modesto uses them a lot. I’m sure for them it’s really cost cutting since they’re hauling air. The range must be phenomenal
Nice.
There is a handful that I see running routes in Northern California. They are always white towing orange boxes and one that’s a full Pepsi livery
I suppose eliminating the driver will solve at least one problem? /s
This is such a low IQ take. That's like saying an office building can't be built bc there's too many air conditioners needed to keep it cool. Or the city cant take a couple more Laundromats. You realize how much electricity AI is sucking from our infrastructure and a couple fucking SEMI TRUCK are what tips the scale. Keep your helmet on while you walk buddy.
I see them in Livermore-Fremont area quite a bit, usually on i-580
What are you talking about? This is CHARGING infastructure, not electricity generation/supply infrastructure. So building the chargers where they are needed on long routes. Moron.
These aren't for long trips, they're for sub 300 round trips. They'll charge at night like every other delivery truck. Clearly you didn't read the press material
Cool but eww Pepsi
how do you back up properly if you're sitting in the middle ? TV Screens ? How do you check for vehicles in the lane beside you if you have frosted/dirty cameras ?
Guessing Blackstone and Bullard, but yeah have generally seen them more by Herndon and that Walmart…
How do you know it’s a Tesla semi? Looks like a Pepsi semi to me? 🤔
He’s not wrong. There isn’t power available at most places to charge multiple trucks at the same time. The cost to increase capacity isn’t feasible for any trucking company. You talk about AI and they absolutely shop around for locations they can put them.
Who makes a gas semi?
Google Edison Motors. Also see the government road blocks they are fighting to get these produced.
It would take a level 2 charger 15 hours to charge the delivery semi from empty to full. So 12 hours for standard use. Idk where you're getting this information that there's some unrealistic power draw from the semi but it's not true. Plug it in overnight and run the route in the morning like every other EV delivery truck already does.
"Level 2" AC charging at 48A 240V (11.5kW) would take over 78 hours to charge the 900kWh Semi battery from 0% to 100%
That's the 500 mile one. Tesla short haul semi has a 500kwh battery and level 2 can go to 19.2kwh. Also, since you didn't read the press material either ...indicated that 50% of all trucks in the U.S. run on routes less than 100 miles. "Local" routes are often defined as those where drivers return home daily, frequently involving distances between 100 and 400 miles per day. Tesla target market is for local deliveries 300mi or less. Why??? So the fuckin trucks can charge for 16 hours after an 8 hour shift. So you're making a nice straw man there to knock down either or purpose or bc you also have a low IQ.
Boo Tesla Vehicles
Well you do realize most of these trucks run 24hrs right? Google “slip seat”
Jesus Christ man read the press release ffs. I worked in transportation for 6 years. I know how it works. Local deliveries don't run 24hrs. Make another straw man.
Weight really doesn't matter much on the highway basically just aerodynamics
You’re wrong. Increase in weight would increase rolling resistance thus reducing range. So yeah weight does matter
One day delivery 5 days to charge.
They do exist
its about time. lol
>Freight trains are big and heavy too and they’re powered by electric motors But you ignore that trains do not have to carry **huge** battery. Thunderf00t [did the math ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3dCDNIRM34)3 years ago, and it is surprisingly simple to understand it. One cannot bend the rules of physics. If they could, we would be seeing electric trucks everywhere. But we don't and will never do, except for marketing purposes like this one by Pepsi. Or for some really short routes, that might be feasible but barely.
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