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Good in all crash ratings, not great on headlights, poor on seatbelt reminder noises
For comparison, the 2025 Model Y [https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/tesla/model-y-4-door-suv/2025](https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/tesla/model-y-4-door-suv/2025)
"In the 37 mph test, this vehicle avoided a collision when using its high beams and a warning was issued 2.2 seconds before impact." Doesn't make sense at all or does it? How can it issue a warning X seconds before impact but without any impact?
Surprised about the glare results. The beam pattern on mine seems extremely low and controlled/doesn’t blind other cars.
Probably before estimated time of impact given distance and velocity at the time of warning
Probably yes. But a (scientific) article should be clear with stuff like that and I am not really inclined to believe anything they write if they get that basic stuff wrong. :/
25 year IIHS crash studier here. a nerd for all the #s. i crunch all the excel data etc. anyway my preliminary look at this last night, on this vanilla test--i wasn't as impressed as i thought i'd be. the HIC although great is excessive in the 400s. also not sure what's going on with the unibody buckling at the top. could be designed-in, or a result of the triangle shape. i'd have to look closer. also the Model 3... kind of similar. i thought it would ace all these tests. makes me grateful for my 2170-Model Y (and yes 2170 is superior).
Also disappointed Highland 3 only pulled a 20 in its SI2.0. whats going on at tesla? MY-2170 is an overbuilt highly calculated beast.
The NHTSA tests gave it flying colors too. https://electrek.co/2025/02/19/tesla-cybertruck-is-not-the-death-machine-that-some-claimed-get-5-star-nhtsa-rating/
What’s SI2.0?
Cool. Never paid attention to the HIC. I would mainly look at side impact tests and distance to centerline measurement as indicator of strength of vehicle body for prior car purchases. For this frontal vanilla test, would you think it’s ok to make comparisons for HIC given the relative mass difference between vehicles for Y vs CT? I was thinking the energy to dissipate is different so hard to draw conclusion directly. God forbid in a real crash…how this translates as some say bigger car the safer. Have a 2022 2170-Y myself but looking closely at the latest lease deal and debating for a few more weeks if I switch over or commit to the Y for a longer term. Wife’s car. Safety and size/comfort is priority.
How can you tell whether you have a 2170 model Y?
I don’t know, seemed pretty clear to me
But I was assured that this machine couldn't possibly pass crash safety testing and that internal data was being suppressed because of how horrifically it performed. Did... did Reddit lie to me? Say it ain't so!
Any model Y built in the US before 2023 is guaranteed to be using 2170 cells. A very small group of Model Y built in Texas which bear the “Standard Range” name are using 4680 cells before being discontinued for a couple reasons. Tesla has been using 2170 cells in all available Model Y in the US since discontinuing that trim. There is speculation that the new Model Y Performance will have a different battery, but if anything it’s probably just more 2170 cells in the pack.
As a driver who has experienced dozens of local cybertrucks oncoming, the glare is pretty anecdotally bad - I’m glad to see this now backed up by data so I have something to point at for my experience.
How is it on pedestrian survival?
Probably really good. Low front end means a pedestrian will roll up onto the hood instead of getting just hit by a brick wall like F150/other trucks.
But how does this compare to other trucks, ev and non ev?
I'm skeptical. If the front edge isn't well below most people's Center of Gravity, they'll be run over or folded in half. CoG is around the small of the back.
“Really good” is relative to getting hit by a full size pickup truck lol. Regardless, pedestrians will fair better than getting hit by a high front end of other trucks like the f150
Cybertrucks aren’t sold in Europe because they can’t pass pedestrian safety regulations. Matt Farrah of the smokingtire said he did not know that America does not have pedestrian regulations before the Cybertruck was released. He questioned how they could sell the truck here with pedestrian regulations and then discovered we don’t have any.
Yeah, and other American pickup trucks are modified before sale in Europe to meet those regulations.
I wrapped my Cybertruck around a pole (well, it drove into the pole on FSD) and I can confirm.
One thing they called out was the headlights (they gave it a poor). That’s one thing I wish were better on the CT. I wish they had the adaptive matrix headlights. It has so much great tech, it would be great if it were across the board (the headlights, phone charger and ventilated seats are definitely not the best tech).
The 2170 Model Y is the worst battery in terms of charging by far though.
Started my career at Volvo and can confidently say that HIC is the major value in crash testing that correlates with real-world injury probability. Consider that the modern Volvos score below 150 at HIC and draw your own conclusions.
> How can you tell whether you have a 2170 model Y? It hovers?
I guess everything is relative. One will separate your head from your body, the other will just separate your upper torso from the rest of your body. In comparison to a normal vehicle or mid-size SUV I guess they’re comparatively pretty awful?
Literally none of our ~~pickups~~ popular pickups are sold in Europe because of pedestrian safety regulations, sweetie. The F-150, the Tundra, the Silverado, the RAM 1500, you name it. Worrying about the “sharp edges” of the Cybertruck when it comes to pedestrian safety is like having a lunatic with a knife rushing you and worrying about how sharp the knife is instead of how strong the guy is and how long the blade is. How recently it was sharpened really won’t make the difference.
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Ford Ranger? That’s sold in Europe, sweetheart
I don’t recommend getting hit by either.
Yup, but you won’t see this in any discussions outside of related subreddits, because cybertruck bad, and we wouldn’t possibly want to share any positive news that doesn’t support our hatred of a car! 😡
Well then, that's my weekend plans ruined!
This is why it's important not to forget to put the /s behind your posts.
lol uh, do you mean we could sell a version of the F-150 that was two feet shorter, half a foot narrower, could tow half as much, weighed 15-20% less, and had a deployable hood system that pops the hood up at the rear edges by 4 inches to reduce pedestrian injury? maybe call it the F-50? cause that’s definitely not the F-150.
Curious to learn how the Model X holds up in that regards. Any thoughts?
It’s Amazing… …compared to being hit by a snow plow! This should always be looked at in a vacuum and not relative to other vehicles that have poor ratings, otherwise we are just normalizing vehicles killing pedestrians.
"The F-150, the Tundra, the Silverado, the RAM 1500, you name it." I named one.. the Ford Ranger
lol omg wow, okay so 90% of our trucks on the road in America can’t be sold in Europe. amazing, totally turns the argument around. Cybertruck clearly stands out as a US pickup that is to unsafe to sell in Europe 🙄
No, that's the first gen 4680 Model Y's; actually, it's the 90 kWh packs that had the first generation of silicon in the anode in the S/X back in 2015.
incidentally the Ford Ranger sold in the US is also illegal to sell in Europe due to its lack of a deployable bonnet.
Side impact? just guessing
Honestly for some reason when I read 2170 I thought 4680 lol, thats my bad. But you can't compare any modern battery to one from 2015...
Yeah, but it is funny considering how much shit it got and nobody blinked at an f150 but memes
All of the tests showed automatic emergency braking avoided hitting pedestrians - it is best not to ever hit them and this truck excelled in avoiding them.
Excuse me, are you implying that elongated muskrat didn't personally murder 9,000,001 Jewish men, women, and children?
Wait…. Hold up…. I was OK with 9 million, but that last one? THATS A BRIDGE TOO FAR!!!!
That's good to hear.
Design over function I guess. They didn't have enough room to put matrix headlights in.
They are all dead 😵🤣
They 100% had room, just like adding the digital gauge cluster that comes on the S and X.
This is true (of course it's relative though). A [2024 study](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2212012224000017) showed that every 10 cm of extra front-end height increases pedestrian fatality risk by approximately 22%. I was curious before and did the math to compare Cybertruck to other comparable full-size electric trucks: * Ford F-150 hood height = 19.8cm taller ≈ +49% higher odds of pedestrian fatality * Rivian R1T hood height = 11.1cm taller ≈ +25% higher odds of pedestrian fatality Of course, this is assuming all other things equal (e.g. speed, which obviously is also an incredibly large factor in this risk).
Yeah, I looked into this and apparently the Cybertruck is the only Tesla they weren’t able to put the hardware for adaptive matrix headlights into. Honestly kinda silly since it’s also the tallest riding Tesla so of course it’s also the one most likely to cause excessive glare. Hopefully they manage to cram it into an updated headlight
Sure they are, you see Ram 1500s all over the Netherlands, plus the occasional Tundra (branded Hilux over there). The main deterrent is sheer size, but it’s not a barrier.
No, the Hilux is definitely not the Tundra under different branding. They are completely different trucks. RAM 1500s are not for sale in the Netherlands as they do not meet NCAP regulations, however this doesn’t mean it’s illegal to import and operate one (same goes for the Cybertruck, by the way). They can be homologated to meet emissions regs by an importer at the request of an individual. https://www.aecsolutions.com/press/official-dodge-and-ram-importer-aec-europe-confirms-ram-trucks-can-be-registered-in-the-netherlands-regularly-according-to-wltp-emission-tests-2/ But they absolutely cannot be sold by Dodge or anyone, for that matter, generally to the public. Each one you see has been specially imported, much like a right-hand-drive kei truck would be in the US.
> No, the Hilux is definitely not the Tundra under different branding. They are completely different trucks. You're right, the Hilux is closer to the Tacoma. I know I've seen a half-ton Toyota truck in Amsterdam, and assumed it was a Hilux; must've been an actual Tundra, then. > They can be homologated to meet emissions regs by an importer at the request of an individual. With no changes to accommodate pedestrian safety? Because that goes against your initial claim.
Jeremy Renner is that you?
Sold is not the same as imported. The RAM 1500 is not legal for sale by a manufacturer or dealer in the Netherlands. Just like the Cybertruck. For the the same reasons. Full stop. End of story. NCAP standards only apply to newer cars for sale, unlike emissions standards, which apply to *all* cars given a specific model year. The Cybertruck has no emissions, so it’s actually more easily suited for import to the Netherlands than the RAM 1500.
i think OP might be questioning the struck by. i’ve read a lot comments from people that think cus the cybertruck “looks scary” it must be dangerous. it has good visibility over the slanted hood. heavy metal truck is just as dangerous as being struck by any other struck by truck. getting hit by any shape moving 15-20 mph is dangerous.
So much of this is stupid. Seat belt reminders? Difficulty to find seatbelt spot? Cybertruck is awful but this isn't why.
read the article
Read the article
I did. I want to know what happens when collision avoidance fails.
Please never link Electrek. Fred's a tool.
I agree. This was a rare one where they treated Tesla fairly.
What do you think about 2018 Model X?
Realistically though, it does perform worse in some of the more important crash metrics than other vehicles not made out of stainless steel. And this is after it was revised for post-April builds so every 2024 Cybertruck would do worse on IIHS testing. Tesla obviously went above and beyond to compensate for the thick stainless steel but if you look at the HIC-15 in the moderate overlap and compare it with a Model Y or a Rivian the Cybertruck driver’s head is subjected to many times more impact force. It’s not a death trap but it’s also not really state of the art in terms of crash safety like other Teslas.
Guys, I need to know the dimensions of the Cybertruck’s back panel for a sign
I only see moderate overlap front. Where is the small overlap front and side crash? And the camera placement inside is strange, driver almost not visible.
Maybe they didn't want to spend the money to do another few crashes.
Elonnnnnnnnn!!!!!
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