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Good stuff, the more the better
You'd be the guy that when his wife keeps talking to the hot guy from her work be like: "They're just friends - nothing to worry about." Edit: lmao - you blocked me for that? I feel like I struck a real nerve.
Like Waymo, not Uber.
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Yes, did you? What am I missing then?
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"Notably, while current operations include safety monitors, the new permit suggests Tesla is moving toward **fully unsupervised autonomous operations**." so are you saying, uber and lyft are moving to fully unsupervised autonomous operations? otherwise, yes, like waymo, not uber like shaggy99 mentioned because waymo used safety monitors before moving to fully unsupervised. i did not finish the article but i doubt it continues with uber and lyft eventually getting rid of their drivers for unsupervised autonomous operations.
Why is it a gamechanger, other than Tesla is now doing it as well?
Is Uber or Lyft actually operating autonomous vehicles for ridesharing? Until they do, they are not in the same market. They are all rideshare companies, but until they are listed as *autonomous* rideshare companies, it's not the same.
Tesla is the only company that can actually deploy a bunch of autonomous vehicles. They produce like 1,700 vehicles a day in the US. Only other competitor is Waymo who has like 2,000 vehicles in total right now but has to buy the vehicles from a manufacturer, then add all the sensor's and wiring to it before deployment. So their vehicles are going to be like 3x the cost and all hinges on supply chain and speed of others.
Bc the truth hurt
It's not a game changer at all. The geo fenced robotaxi still isnt even open to the public. Now they are approved for the whole state? Look up the requirements for texas, its almost nothing. Remember when he said a car could drive from ca to NY with no driver in 2016? He said he could do that right now. Still cant do it. I honestly cant tell if the people pushing these points are bots or just people invested that want it to be true.
Tesla is the hot crippled, blind guy
But people can actually use the Waymo service. Tesla’s is still just for its social media cheerleaders
Still. Not saying it’s a massive success yet, or will be… But this is the dumbest thing to judge something on. «Look at little Evan who just managed to stand for the first time!» > It’s just for the family cheerleaders. Jenny can actually walk! If six months pass and it’s still the same, then we can talk about it.
Elon tweeted that invites to the Bay Area ride hailing version were going out and I’m still waiting. I don’t know what else to judge it by
That's worth $1 Trillion dollars!
Reddit is big mad
Nice!!!
It's a rideshare license, not an autonomous rideshare license. That was plain as day in the very first sentence. "Tesla has achieved a major regulatory milestone by securing a **rideshare license** in Texas, marking a pivotal moment in the autonomous vehicle landscape."
The only reason why it's mentioning Uber and Lyft is because Robotaxi secured a "rideshare license." Uber and Lyft are rideshare companies. From what I am getting from this article, Robotaxi is the first company of it's kind to secure the rideshare license. Once Robotaxi becomes unsupervised, it will be a "fully unsupervised autonomous rideshare company" in Texas.
It would be impressive if this was standing for the first time. But Tesla has attempted this again and again. How many times does 6 months need to pass? I love my Tesla as a vehicle, but the FSD pipedream is still just that.
Still amazes me how some people don’t understand… Tesla is doing a better-safe-than-sorry approach. Remember “Cruise”? Remember their approach? I like how Tesla is slowly rolling out their robotaxi and with a dedicated safety person.
😂 wow
The new license allows them to operate a rideshare service **Using Autonomous Vehicles** If that wasn't clear **in this article**, then reading most of the other articles on this subject will make it so. But I thought the license being granted to Tesla Robotaxi might have been a clue.
Huh?
BULLISH to the moon baby lets goo!
It takes 3 people to drive a robotaxi. Total game changer.
First, scaling is not just about manufacturing. You also need people on the ground in each city to do cleaning and maintenance. Second, Tesla is yet to demonstrate it can do Robotaxi without a safety driver. That is also a limiting factor for scalability.
Lol invites going out doesn't mean literally everyone in the Bay Area all at once.
Huh? This is literally the first time. Their Robotaxi service literally just started in June.
There is no safety driver in the robotaxis. There is a Tesla employee in the passenger seat that opens the door if the car is going to crash.
They may not be in the driver's seat but if it swims like a duck and quacks like a duck... In fact for the SF rollout the employee will be sitting in the driver's seat and able to take full control of the vehicle. That is by definition a safety driver.
Just saw a Waymo car in NYC. They are expanding.
It’s a rideshare license. If you can’t figure that out from the article, I don’t know what to tell you. It’s not an autonomous rideshare license. It’s comparing Robotaxi to other rideshare companies. Doesn’t matter what kind of vehicle they use.
The article is wrong, or badly written. https://eladelantado.com/news/texas-autonomous-vehicles-new-permits/
We can argue semantics as much as you'd like, but at the end of the day, Tesla doesn't yet trust its cars to go out on the open road without someone siting in the car to supervise it.
Do you like the fact that the “safety person” is in the passenger seat, which makes it significantly more difficult for them to intervene when Robotaxi does stupid stuff like making left turns into oncoming traffic?
Generally.
And is still supervised and always will be
But it should mean more than just the cheerleaders. They already know they would be getting it first and that wouldn’t need to be announced to them. So I’m wondering who he was notifying and why
Isn't it a legal thing where someone has to be in the passenger seat for so many tens of thousands of miles of driving before Tesla can forego that requirement?
Sure, if they are in the driver seat, they are a safety driver. Its probably required by law for a certain amount of miles. Waymo did the same thing for a while.
Not Autonomous .. more lies
AFAIK that's not the case in Texas
Technically he can do it now. The restrictions are regulatory, not technical.
If he really could do it and wanted to prove it he could just pick a route through red states with little to no regulation and no interst in getting in his way. Key West to Coeur d'Alene is 3100 miles all through red states. He could send an autonomous car from Miami to Houston as a shorter publicity stunt between big cities without having to deal with NY or CA regulations.
there are many videos of people driving on any road with their hands on the wheel but not actually driving anything. the system is ready, it is safer than the average driver, but there are legal risks, if there is any problem they will be sued for hundreds of millions of dollars for every accident, like it happened recently when a dumb jury found that autopilot was 30% responsible for the death of a passenger and tesla had to pay 120 million. 8 accidents and they will lose a billion dollars, even if a real driver would have made more fatal accidents in the same distance? what company can afford that?
So I guess Tesla's claiming to invent the autonomous taxi?
Is Robotaxi a game and what changed?
>Tesla is doing a better-safe-than-sorry approach. Whut. Tesla has spent the last decade doing massive self-driving software rollouts to the general public with over-hyped claims of its abilities, leading to multiple deaths...
No he cant do it. If he could he would live steam it happening without an intervention with someone sitting in the driver's seat. That would be great publicity.
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