Tesla might not sell their cars in california if they loose !

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California loves making it difficult for business.

They'll just sell on CA native american reservations if they lose. Not convenient, but not a complete pulling out of the state either.

\*lose

They are also the best state for consumer laws. I don't care if you love or hate Tesla, but the naming and descriptions given for FSD have been a lie for a long time. We can argue about how good FSD is, but is it Full Self Driving if it turns off in the rain? Etc.

There needs to be a balance.

The balance is that Tesla should stop lying about their products.

That's easy. Change the naming and stop Musk telling people it's almost faultless until they can actually support the claims. This is a Tesla problem. Not a CA problem. We'll see more cases like we did recently where Tesla lost in mediation. When I bought my first Tesla, FSD was listed in my available options as "Coming later this year". That was like 4 years ago.

They will just make people go to a neighboring state to pick up their car. It happens in other states already.

Difficult for deceptive or harmful business practices? That's a good thing.

It’s not a big deal. And FSD is really damn good now.

Yes. It IS a big deal. It's lying. If it's not a big deal then Tesla should change the name and marketing.

So are we getting a refund or something?

It turns off when it's raining hard enough for many humans to pull over under and underpass.

Then put every restaurant out of business who shows photos that look NOTHING like the product you end up getting. The same with cereal boxes etc. I'd say 50% of the things sold in California could be pulled for 'false adverstising' if we are going to get picky. Every 'natural' ED druge, all the people advertising Cannibas as the cure all for everything etc.

Turns off for far less rain than that.

I guarantee you if Musk never came out of the closet as a Conservative and helped Trump win, this would NOT be happening

Yes. They should go after all those too. But at least a smashed hamburger is still a hamburger. And not a lie like FSD has become in some cases.

They just lost their first mediation for lying about FSD. My bet is that it's going to snowball and they'll be scrambling soon. Helping Trump or not.

thank you

or maybe online ?

yeah , people will buy anyways

i think its about delivering whats promised , every state should follow

ah , politics ...

Well they still order online, but they will take delivery from another state. For example, Wisconsin doesn’t allow direct to consumer so people to go Illinois to pick up their car.

It is good. But it’s absolutely not what Tesla has been advertising.

If by "came out of the closet" you mean he was dragged down an alley and beaten up by a union thug and so switched his allegiance, then yes he came out of the closet. Now that he is taking heat from the other side again he is switching again.

I don't see where he's switching to Democrats. If you think Republican's spend...Democrats will tell you to hold their iced mocha latte

Let me know when you smashburger looks like this photo [Best Burger Restaurants Near Me | Smashburger Official Site](https://smashburger.com/)

Found the Karen

Yeah. Switching to party number 3. We'll see how that works out. He does what's best for his company, but in a painful way.

And to rub it in; after the (digital) purchase paperwork is completed, the cars will drive themselves over the border … using FSD.

They also sell on Native American reservations in New Mexico and Connecticut. People don't realize that "Indian" casinos are often under a different government rule. Morongo has plenty of space for a store.

On AI4, I'm amazed how heavy it can rain before it will turn off. It will reduce the maximum speed in heavy rains, but to turn off it has to be torrential. We had flooding 2 weeks ago that caused 2 deaths and it only cut out once at the time where you saw cars with blinkers pulled off to the side under overpasses. Major highways here in NJ looked like lakes and stalled (ICE) cars where everywhere.

Or, Tesla could just stop marketing FSD deceptively. Any system that requires a human driver to monitor it at all times, is not driving. It.ay be steering and controlling speed. But the person with ultimate responsibility for safe operation of the vehicle is the only "driver" of the car.

>Or, Tesla could just stop marketing FSD deceptively. Do you hear yourself? lol

And yet somehow, the state has more [Fortune 500 companies](https://www.visualcapitalist.com/map-the-number-of-fortune-500-companies-in-each-u-s-state/) than any other, and is the tech innovation capital of the world and it’s not even close.

Lol no they won't. They delivered a single car this way with a whole entourage of supervision.

Lol California is such a dump

Hellifornia