Optimus handing out popcorn at the Tesla Diner

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Imagine growing up when robots are serving you popcorn 😅

We sure this isn’t a guy in a suit ? Fool me once, shame on you…

Should you still say Thank You? 😄

So you're admitting it looks legit then

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More likely a remotely controlled drone handing out popcorn at the Tesla diner. There's absolutely no tangible evidence that these things operate autonomously.

There is also no evidence that they are remote controlled.

Interaction with kids? Ya that’s gotta be telepresence operated.

Legal liability of direct interaction with children. That’s the evidence they are human controlled. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge Tesla/spacex fan. I just don’t see them risking it at this point.

You can't replace us working at that pace...

Except every other fine motor demo they've done...

I wouldn’t let my kids within fifty feet of that thing

Oh that’s pretty fun

Seriously fucking wild times

Yeah he’s got a 14” waist

Let’s all agree that this is a real robot serving people popcorn. The question is, so what? It really wouldn’t be hard to program a machine (a robot is just a machine) to serve people popcorn in a realistic manner. Show me that robot making the popcorn, going into the back and finding a bag of kernels, watching the hopper to make sure it doesn’t burn, cleaning the popcorn maker at the end of the night. That would be impressive. Until then it’s just a fancy, overpriced, overhyped, machine

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Lmao

Honestly, does this machine have to work this slowly? For production work, it needs to be faster.

Movie theater consession stand workers are shaking in their boots /s

What do you mean so what?

And 4" thighs! Or maybe it's a kid / amputee hiding in the upper half of the robot 😂 ^^/s ^^because ^^it's ^^reddit.

I'm waiting for the moment someone tries to shake their hands like in that scene from Robocop

What do YOU mean? That makes sense. Can it do all the prep work? Probably not

Taco Bell kiosks be interacting with my kids.

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What is my purpose? You pass the butter.

In 5 to 7 years this multi-billion dollar investment that retails at 100k will be ready to displace a minimum wage worker doing shit quality work.

I think the point is that major progress is made. We’re nipping at the margins and we reached this point. In another year, maybe another ability is added.  Then another 2 more abilities.  The point is that it’s here in the world and coming. If you can prove that 1+1=2, it doesn’t matter that it can’t count up to 1,000,000. But it will eventually. They’re showing inevitability.

FSD has years of training data and also a driver who is supposed to be watching to take over. Even with Robotaxi which is full autonomous, they still have a passenger observer AND remote operating capability just in case. You think Tesla is going to risk having Optimus crush a kids hand? For popcorn?! They were human operated for the robotaxi unveiling and I don’t think much has chance since.

Just a matter of time.

Cool story bro

Lol I'm sorry but compared to other robots that are hitting the market right now this is super unimpressive and makes Tesla look like it's falling behind when it comes to robotics.

We’ve had stationary machines with one task ability for years. Can it handle multiple tasks with multiple scenarios, including ad-hoc ones

Yeah, anyone who has been around kids knows there is a strong probability one of them will go in for a hug and that isn’t in the risk matrix lmao

For me, it’s so cool to see the progress in robotics. I hope to have one someday :) I grew up with black and white TV and rotary phones, it’s so amazing to see how quickly technology progresses and so quickly we take it for granted.

Please, Thank You, and please don’t murder me.

More likely that remote operators are monitoring via cctv and have big red button to stop any action and possibly cut power to the arms.

But when there’s no payslip for them?

Dude he is not filling the box to full. Would be interesting to see what happens when very little popcorn is remaining there ;)

I just think people are over reacting a bit maybe, I don’t think companies yet know how expensive these are going to be to maintain. Yeah you don’t have to pay them, but charging them, parts, and electricity in general will be a lot more to deal with when the time comes. Many companies have tried swapping to AI and robotics only to swap back because it wasn’t as efficient or cost effective as originally thought.

Yes this will probably happen at some point. The real problem is, we humans are really bad at predicting the pace of this kind of progress, just see nuclear fusion or flying cars. Until it gets close, many are going to be skeptical of its ability to ever get there. Of course, when it does come around the skeptics will likely already be late to the party, but for now, the skepticism is justified imo, and there's very little to actually justify 5-7 years as the point where it will happen. Maybe it will, but it's more speculation than evidence based prediction.

How long can they keep operating this for, if manually controlled? Would be a full-time shift probably

Dude it's not even filling the popcorn well

Yeah like, weren't we going to have all self-driving semis by this time? Wasn't it Uber that decided they were going to monopolize that one? I don't even remember that hype anymore but it was probably around 5 years ago.

I'm a robot to the capitalist system... Lol

Except that it was remote operated at every event interacting with the public so far.

Considering how long Boston dynamics has been around, I'd say they're progressing pretty rapidly. Plus more important than the hardware is the a.i. which other companies don't really talk about.

The whole point is that it can do whatever a human can. Maybe not today or tomorrow but one day.

Nuclear Fusion and Flying cars -- they all depend on some new/advanced physics. Robots basically depends on the advancements on AI/CHIPS/ML, which is progressing at a very rapid pace.

I’m sure they’ll start out way too expensive as all new tech does. Then the price drops precipitously as all technology does.

you should never use past metrics to give future prediction, especially now when AI is blasting forward.

What robot is hitting the market?

It has to start somewhere. Remember flat screen TVs, video games, etc. all tech starts out a bit rough but improves to become incredible! The same thing will happen to these robots.

Not being inflammatory here. This would be amazing as a robotics alone feat. BUT!, they are pushing this as the next innovation,as if robotic arms haven't done task like this for decades. How is mass adoption for this supposed to work? To replace one worker would be 100s of thousands of dollars. We have underestimated minimum wage labor to the point of insulting them. The amount of judgement calls and adjustments people make on the fly is discounted and belittled.

It is for sure

Everything amazing is always "5 to 7 years away".

Seems to be just doing a repetitive task of picking up the box from the preassigned area the helper is placing them, scooping and handing it roughly to be collected by the kids. There's been tech demos like this going back years - it's not impressive and just looks pretty clunky really. (never mind the fact that in the real world you'd just spend $100 to have a proper automatic dispenser)

DROP THE POPCORN! YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY!

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It's so efficient too! /s

Atlas is not hitting the market now, but it's close. It's being deployed this year for trials in a Hyundai plant in Georgia.

Where does Tesla say that they’re handing out popcorn with autonomous Optimus units?

Agreed, all of these look, to me, to be remotely controlled via someone in a suit...since that's what we saw they were doing previously

My point, maybe not made in the best way is, this is a mono-task machine with a lot of hype behind what it could possibly do at some point in the future. Is investing in the research and technology behind it important, absolutely, but people are conflating what this robot could possibly do and what this robot can actually do and saying this robot is amazing. If you look at just what it can do right now, it’s not that big of a deal. people are saying robots are going to replace people for jobs menial jobs. It’s not going to happen anytime soon. Sure, this robot is doing part of a job but it still needs a human to do most of the work. There are a million little decisions that need to be made to do a job as simple as making popcorn, trust me I’ve done it with one of those poppers, a lot of them are decisions that don’t make sense, tiny adjustments needed, some just a gut feeling. The amount of work needed just to make and serve popcorn. This robot is not doing any of them. Robots are getting advanced, and will keep getting advanced, but it is going to be many years, if not decades, before a robot can completely replace a human at a job. I fully believe that in the future this robot (or some sort of humanoid robot) will be a lot more useful but this isn’t that impressive.

I'll never forget the switch when changing (analogue) TV channels was absolutely instant (<50ms), and then when digital (or box addon) came through, it takes a second or so. Same issue today. Same with changing radio channels (even in the Tesla). Been grinding my gears ever since.

The same could be said for level 5 self driving, and yet we're not there yet. Frankly, id suggest that self driving is the easier problem then a robot that can do much of the 'easy' stuff that a min wage worker can do.

It's ok to yell at robots the same way we yell at wage laborers, right? For example: "Think you could scoop that any slower you wanking rust bucket?!"

And that is a huge trillion dollar industry my friend. I can have cheap labor controlling these from third world countries? I can replace all my expensive US factory workers with cheap 50 cent per hour labour? Welcome to the future. This is actually MUCH better than autonomy.

That's fine. I think the main worry is a pesky kid will accidentally hit the "terminate all" button

I actually completely forgot that, but you're right. I recall it annoying me when we first got cable tv with a decoder.

The Unitree G1 particarily makes Optimus look like a complete joke.

> Robots basically depends on the advancements on AI Currently AI advances by making bigger and bigger models and running it on more and more hardware. You cannot put a multirack server into a robot and power it of battery.

You don't go from point A to point Z. There's a lot of development steps between those two points. You're expecting Z but they're not at that point yet and probabaly won't be for awhile. That doesn't mean the points in between are a waste of time.

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That's the one at the next station

Nah, they just get to wfh now

Just wait until his alter ego MechaHitler makes an appearance.

The thing is literally serving popcorn in front of you and you think it’s decades away from doing the job?

buttered popcorn** FTFY

He's saying it can't do the rest of the work to get to the point where it can serve the popcorn. We can see someone supplying it with more popcorn containers. But that's beside the point. It would be perfectly fine to have one human supervising a bunch of these, and stepping in to replenish popcorn and supplies. Eventually that will change too.

https://youtu.be/eCNVet_wXGA Not every demo... Unless you mean "every other" as in half of the demos?

I’ve never seen 3/4 filled popcorn before 🤨

Concessions are usually not much faster... But that's also because people get up to the front and take forever to order. I could see this working with a bunch of kiosks for ordering and robots fulfilling orders. But robots could just be robot arms and automated cup and popcorn bag dispensers.

You'd still have the upfront cost and maintenance

Hand that right back and tell that MFer to fill it to the top!!

Im loving the soft touch handoff to the kids. Its things like that which make this a human enough experience for people to accept.

Idk why he’s saying that though. It seems small minded to think we are decades away from this robot doing the “rest of the work” when it’s doing the most important part here. He says there’s “a million little decisions” but didn’t name any of them.

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Mechanical Gurk. Chatgpt has left the matrix and is pissed.

It's serving popcorn, they can limit engine speed and torque so it can't harm people even if the ai goes loco.

Boston Dynamics just called to say their closing shop. All their years of hard work on REAL robotic talent and now they have to admit they've been bested by the polymath Musk. /s

One broken finger or kid that gets hit in the face is all it would take to have endless negative press. I gladly welcome when Optimus or other robots can help humanity, popcorn is just the tip of the iceberg lol.

I can't find a single video of the G1 doing a productive task. Do you have some?

Happening at one location, definitely not even 1 decade away. Happening regularly all over the place is definitely still decades though.

Are these AI (artificial intelligence) or A.I. (actually Indians)

Looks like a convenience store worker on Fentanyl. So pretty standard, really.

Holy goalpost

I bet you're fun at parties

I feel like you’re grossly overestimating the demand for popcorn

If you own a popcorn machine then all it does is serve popcorn. If you have a humanoid robot, it can serve popcorn, load the dishwasher, pick up your laundry, etc.  I have zero faith in Tesla succeeding, but clearly there are benefits.

At least I know my order will be correct when I place it and that’s not even from teenagers it’s adults.

🤣 well said

1st masters scooping popcorn, in 50 years it will be working on Mars.

It's AI (Actually Indian)

Oh my God…

Unbelievable. If Tesla really brings the Optimus…

And? Still allows for incredible things if it is telepresence. Bomb squad, firefighters, all sorts of first responders, remote farm labor, etc.

While it's very likely tele-operated, it's still a nice marketing stunt, and interesting from a robotics perspective. Not many in the public get a chance to get up close to a human form robot. If I ever need to Supercharge in the area, I may have to take a look.

likely tesla employee family. Not the standard general public.

And it does this task slowly, fills each container incompletely, and seems to be in an almost completely fixed pattern -- and it looks like the kids have been given specific instructions to grab the popcorn a certain way, and there is an awkward delay before the robot lets go, as if the let go part is remotely triggered by a person looking on or perhaps by the kid pushing against the popcorn per their instructions. The whole display strikes me as pathetic. I appreciate most of the EVs Tesla builds, and wish it would focus on improving the quality and design of those cars, but Optimus seems like another stupid ego project to me.

Oh my God

Put them to work!

Is this the new normal?

That thumbs up looked to be remote operated

There is, though

There’s a Tesla diner?? Where?

Every time I see a clip, I love the popcorn on the floor. They went from "Optimus serving food", to this thing at launch. Tesla are in trouble in regards to Sales massively declining, yet there doing stuff like this.

> How is mass adoption for this supposed to work? To replace one worker would be 100s of thousands of dollars. A worker works 40 hours a week, *if* you can keep them focused for that entire time, and each one requires training individually. This works 168 hours a week, never loses focus, and you train a single worker once and copy that knowledge to every other worker. And in theory, you buy it once, then keep it running for years.

> and electricity in general Any realistic estimate of electricity usage is going to be an irrelevant fraction of human pay. > Many companies have tried swapping to AI and robotics only to swap back because it wasn’t as efficient or cost effective as originally thought. And many companies, many *entire industries*, have swapped to automation and stayed there. There's a reason you're not wearing hand-spun fiber anymore.

Chess playing vibes.

We wait 10 - 20 years then maybe

My favourite part is that some guy has to walk over and drop a bag for the 200k animitronic to grab and badly dump popcorn into it because the remote worker on the other side of the world being paid 1 dollar an hour to control it does not have enough articulation to take bags out of a holder.

Tesla constantly over promises and under preforms. If they said, "We have an amazing telepresence platform and it's going to revolutionize the way humans perform hazardous tasks and labor," I'd be cheering. But they keep trying to pass these off like some real-life Rosie the Robot. Unfortunately, they are nowhere near close enough to market automous robotic butlers for residential use. It just feels shady from a company that really can't afford to look shady.

It wouldn’t work 24x7 though. The battery simply wouldn’t support that. Otherwise I agree but I’d wager it would be more like 140 hours per week if run continuously.

200k for an animtronic that takes 15 seconds to put two scoops of popcorn into a tiny bag that some other guy has to walk over and plop into a designated spot while someone else operates the thing definitely sounds convincing for a movie theater to pay for instead of just having a machine dispense popcorn or some underpaid employee who can do it significantly faster.

They're not selling them as fully functioning Rosie the Robots. There's nothing wrong with a company trying to paint a picture of what they see as the future. I wish them the best in their Optimus endeavors, it would be insane if they pull it off. That attracts top tier talent. People called FSD vaporware for years and now they have fully functioning autonomous taxis. Insane they can pull that off in the timeline they did.

But is Elon advertising Optimus as a telepresence platform? lol

In other words, it's never going to be impressive until it does literally everything? I think it's okay if people are impressed with progress being made in the little steps being made in that direction. I don't really care which company is doing it either, progress is progress. How they go about it, whether it's being done ethically etc, is another discussion.

IMO this robot serving popcorn is not bad in that it is able to reach out to the person and had over the box like a human, but seeing what other robots can do - this is not groundbreaking. It is a novel experience for kids, and good to have them show some depth perception and dexterity of the hands, but it is not the best in the industry by any means

People behind it can switch

But I struggle to see progress here. They programmed a robot to grab a container, pour in popcorn, and hand it back. Just because it looks humanoid doesn’t change anything. My local mall has a robot that makes coffee but doesn’t look humanoid, but it’s the same thing.

Did it pull out the next box from the sleeve on its own?

Yeah I know, like shifts in a 24 hr open fast food restaurant...constantly controlling it with or without breaks would be quite boring though. Am sure there are many who would do it for top dollar and a heavy NDA

Some guy remote guy remote operating this thing

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what about buttered sausage. let’s talk about buttered sausage.

It says a lot that Disney imagination at the theme parks has better robotics

There is literally nothing new here. This is a stationary machine programmed to perform a single task. I see a lot of people filling in lots of blanks based on what Elon claims but hasn’t been actually demonstrated. My local mall has a robot that makes coffee, but that’s all it does, and people aren’t online hyping up that thing. lol

Exactly. As of right now this is a robotic arm in humanoid form. This is not new.

Is it? I haven't been there. Musk is a much better salesman though! ;)

People complaining that it doesn't do everything, until it finally does, then they'll be complaining that it works them out of every job.

Optimus being remote controlled by a tesla employee to hand out popcorn*

> It wouldn’t work 24x7 though. The battery simply wouldn’t support that. It's unclear what the plan for Optimus is, but [here's a similar robot changing its own battery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suxf0bi9daA). There's solutions.

Don't forget popcorn scooping. Very slow popcorn scooping.

The robots begin asking….”what if there’s more to life than serving popcorn?”

Ya that would work. The downside being that you’d need space to store enough batteries for each bot. The alternative would be to just have a single battery and it’d go off and plug itself in occasionally. For specific things like this, it could even just be plugged in while working.

Their part of the 86.

And yet, every single Tesla "hands out" sudden Phantom Brakings all around the world.

Once it does that, this is you: Let’s all agree that this is a real robot making and serving people popcorn. The question is, so what? It really wouldn’t be hard to program a machine (a robot is just a machine) to serve and make people popcorn in a realistic manner. Show me that robot folding laundry, going into the back and finding more dirty clothes to wash and sorting it by color. Putting clean clothes away and tucking my kids in at the end of the night. That would be impressive. Until then it’s just a fancy, overpriced, overhyped, machine. You can just say you hate Elon and Tesla and you don't actually care about the hundreds of not-elons it took to engineer and build this humanoid robot.

Yeah, there's a lot of interesting solutions, depending both on the bot design and the factory requirements. For example, if you have a factory with half cordless stations and half corded stations, you could just have bots swap between "corded" and "cordless" when the cordless one starts getting low. Or you could have a designated Battery-Changer Bot with a cart of batteries taking perpetual laps of the factory and replacing robot batteries. Or I'm sure there's a dozen other options. This is the kind of thing where we'll see a bunch of possibilities and market forces will gradually pick whichever one has the best combination of convenience and price.

It doesnt even have to be someone in a suit. Pretty sure we have the VR tech now to remotely control a robot.

This is quite literally not a stationary machine. It’s also crazy that you just looked at something with legs and called it a stationary machine.

They are admitting Tesla is known to lie. Full auto driving looks good until it runs over a fake child.

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I wonder, when kids grow up in an age of robots. Will they prefer robot service workers over a human one. Would they request a robot to serve them food?

The kids are literally watching their summer job prospects evaporate. haha

Chipotle is going buy these robots first. Look how it not filled all the way up.

I see the progress in that it is a bipedal, humanoid shaped robot doing it without tethers, unsteadiness or falling over. That is really hard to do. At least while still looking more "human" than "Robot" and not being overly bulky. I feel like Optimus is one of the most naturally "human appearing" bipedal robots right now - I have seen some other images of other robots around online that also look pretty good - but I am unsure about how capable or real they actually are.

If you know so much about FSD feel free to make your own company and compete against Tesla and their strategy. No need for LIDAR although I think they should have kept the ultrasonic sensors from the old models. At $100/piece it's a cheap data set that can be used to challenge your vision model (i.e. is there something here when camera says there is/isn't). Any FSD system will cause deaths, you need to look at deaths per mile to see if it is better or worse than humans. It is already better meaning that putting a human behind the wheel is committing murder but people aren't wired to think that way.

The folks who were running all those walk in and walk out Amazon stores probably needed some new work.

I am pretty sure that "ai" is just a dude remote working that bot. It(He, the operator ) tries to hand it out to the kid nearby instead of putting it to the table, it doesn't got distracted by the woman passing by behind it.

Really? The Unitree G1 is tiny, janky in it's movements and can't do a single useful thing. It is controlled entirely by hitting button combinations on what is basically a gaming controller. I haven't seen any evidence it can do any fine motor control of the fingers and arms for tasks like Optimus is doing - even if we assume neither is dong it autonomously.

You will have to wait for Optimus 2.0 for that command.

>If you know so much about FSD feel free to make your own company and compete against Tesla and their strategy. Fallacy. I can know enough about cameras to say LiDAR is better for perceiving 3D environments than standard digital cameras without having to build an auto manufacturer from the ground up. I'm not saying LiDAR is the only answer, just that it is the industry standard for a reason. >Any FSD system will cause deaths, you need to look at deaths per mile to see if it is better or worse than humans. Irrelevant. I'm not comparing Tesla FSD to humans. I'm pointing out the failures of Tesla FSD that had available solutions at hand that Tesla just refused to adopt. My point was to prove Tesla can't be trusted to deliver on their promises, mostly due to their own hubris, not that Tesla is incapable or that Tesla FSD is more or less safe than human drivers.

show them what a 9-5 looks like. they will stick to serving popcorn.

Science must confuse you with all those in agreement

For me, Tesla has made great progress since their initial showing back in 2022, in just 3 years. By having a general purpose humanoid robot, I can see having the robot serving coffee, popcorn, pretzels etc without having a purposely built area and a dedicated robot for a single task, it can work out of the same space as humans.

> But they keep trying to pass these off like some real-life Rosie the Robot I don’t read into this anymore than tesla simply showing off some of their technology. I think your overthinking this.

We'll all have tons of time to wait in long lines for robots to serve us popcorn very, very slowly when we have no jobs.

I love that the mom said “Say thank you” and you could tell the dad was thinking “it’s a bot”

Let's see you build a bipedal robot that can stand/walk remotely and see how easy it is, since it's so unimpressive to you.

I don’t see it walking in the clip…

Why won't it scoop directly with the box? That's what cinema workers always do. Way faster and easier.

You think it will stay the same speed in 6 months? A year? 2? Robots and AI improve every day, humans stay the same.

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Did we already forget the Cybercab event? >Tesla Inc. used humans to remotely control some capabilities of its Optimus robot prototypes at a recent event designed to generate investor enthusiasm for forthcoming products, according to people familiar with the matter. >The flashy event, held on the Warner Bros. Studios lot, was broadly seen as underwhelming due to its lack of technical details and vagueness on the plans for the robotaxi business. The following day, Tesla’s shares suffered the worst decline in more than two months. With investors present, they were vague on technical details while Elon was on stage making claims that he expected Optimus to be “the biggest product ever of any kind.” >“What can it do?” Musk said. “It can be a teacher, babysit your kids, it can walk your dog, mow your lawn, get the groceries, just be your friend, serve drinks. Whatever you can think of, it will do.” [source](https://share.google/K6Utyyj1jd3Noi68Q) Notice he said "it can" not "it will". I'm not overthinking anything, Tesla's strategy is the same as it ever was. Over promise in front of investors, collect money, then underperform.

Boston Robotics has being doing this for decades and their current Atlas could do these same tasks far better, if they bothered to tailor them to perform these tasks. Again, I don’t really see any real technical innovation.

Good thing I went to school to hand out apples and not popcorn.

> Notice he said "it can" not "it will". I'm not overthinking anything, Tesla's strategy is the same as it ever was. Over promise in front of investors, collect money, then underperform. That’s because they were not showcasing an imminent product for release. Elon opened that event saying, we(they) believe in a future of autonomy and that entire set was a glimpse of what it could be.  This is literally just opening a movie theatre and for kicks they have one of their robots serving popcorn for fun. I look at it and think ‘neat’. For whatever reason people look at it and say ‘I should invest my life savings’ or ‘this is total fraud’ and I’m just stumped as to why either of them applies here.

This will change everything 😂

I wonder if its also controlled by a human like the bartenders.

Yes, Atlas is probably far better at some of these tasks, but that wasn’t my point - Atlas is wayyyyy less “human” looking. That’s the challenge.

The Tesla diner is less like "opening a movie theatre and for kicks" and more like the demo houses at the front of a new neighborhood. Both the Cybercab event and Tesla diner are experiences designed to entice investors. You're only experiencing it all second hand through video and I doubt you're a big investor (no shade). That's why you think "neat" while actual investors think either "I should invest" or "This appears fraudulent." Telsa isn't burning money, opening fun experiences, just for shits and gigs. The point is to garner investments. You're just not the target audience.

Yes, a general purpose humanoid robot definitely would have value and that’s why companies other than Tesla are developing them. I still haven’t seen any real innovation that separates Optimus from some others. And of course I’ll be downvoted, I know where I am, and that’s fine. lol

But it’s not. It’s actually fairly trivial. If they ever got cheap enough where individual people could afford to actually buy them for home use I guarantee these companies would integrate the sensors into more of a conventional head shape. The challenge has never been “yes it can do all my chores but it doesn’t look like a human.”

But it’s not. It’s actually fairly trivial. If they ever got cheap enough where individual people could afford to actually buy them for home use I guarantee these companies would integrate the sensors into more of a conventional head shape. The challenge has never been “yes it can do all my chores but it doesn’t look like a human.”

**"It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever making popcorn"**

The movie will be over by the time that robot serves 25 people

This!

Who gives a shit? Im not going to hire an engineer to build me a custom stationary machine for each task. The whole point is to have a single, mass-produced platform that does everything. Today it shovels popcorn. Tomorrow it mops the floor. Next week it flips burgers. Each of these could have a bespoke robot, but that's not an economical way to run a restaurant.

No but while I hate Elon I’m shocked we haven’t seen a company pop up for Optimus teleoperation by overseas datacenter operators to work in homes, offices etc We’ve got overseas telephone datacenter show long till we have overseas tele operators for US based jobs with robo bodies

I’m not a robotics expert, but my understanding was that these other companies were all making their machines look the way they do as they were prioritizing functionality over form while Tesla’s approach is while not exactly form over functionality, but to figure out how to make it work without sacrificing form at all. My understanding is that it’s not just about integrating sensors, but that the wide stocky stances of other robots and proportions that are often very off in comparison to a real human were pretty integral to the overall functionality and redesigning to be more “human” in appearance would not exactly be trivial. If there is something that says otherwise, I’d love to hear about it. Boston Dynamics robot dog “Spot” for example looks nothing like any real dog…. And I don’t see how they could redesign it to look like a real dog without throwing almost everything out and starting from the ground up again.

Yes that’s true, because generally the people buying these robots didn’t give a damn what they look like as long as they do the job, and unsurprisingly the kinematics of the human body is not always the best for any given task. But if you need a general purpose robot to inhabit and interact with human spaces then yes it becomes more important for it to take a similar form. Some functionality WILL be sacrificed, it is just a question of priority. BD’s Spot is a good example. It ended up having a similar form as a dog because it’s what made sense for the use case, but nobody is buying a Spot because it looks like a dog or would want it to be even more dog like. I’ve interacted with a few of them and they’re fantastic for various uses, and looking more like a dog would likely make it less capable. So I’m not sure we’re actually in disagreement here I’m just trying to make the point that we have been able to make them more “humanoid” for many years but the demand and priority just wasn’t there. Naturally Tesla is trying to convince us that we’ll all have one of these in our homes in the next decade and part of that is making it look more human, even though I’ve yet to actually be impressed by its function. Btw I’m still waiting on my Roadster…

Or it’s a software feature upgrade behind a $2,000 paywall. :)

It's cool is what it is

Willing to bet this is not a permanent thing. Just had it out for opening day/weekend/month.

I guess I’m just easily impressed/excited for the future :) it’s good to have multiple companies working on this, competition stimulates faster progress.

Yea I don’t think we necessarily disagree either. I don’t think what it’s doing is particularly impressive, just that it’s doing it while looking so close to human form is at least a little impressive. Tesla seems to have their eyes set on a very different market than the other robotics companies - the consumer market, and if it ends up any good and has commercial application, then commercial buyers probably still won’t care what it looks like if it does mostly as good a job and is cheaper. I mean, maybe the other robotics companies could turn that kind of a redesign around pretty quick and it would be better than Optimus, but they haven’t so it remains to be seen and I just don’t think it would be trivial. And yea, spot is pretty cool, I have also seen one in person in real life - but if god forbid you wanted to buy a robotic dog to sub in as a pet instead of a real one, that is not what I would want running around my house lol. Would probably give me nightmares.

sex robot, etc.

I think you may be right. This guy does need constant monitoring :)

The jetsons got this all right, Rosie is as their maid/robot. Everything was automated.

Fill it to the top glass eyes

I hope they replace servers soon..so no more tips

I wanted to see if it could grab a new bucket from the stack that was put on the table....

RIP the minimum wage puppet guy operating this remotely for 9 hours a day 😂

super dangerous environments (space/exposed to radiation etc.), yes - serving popcorn extremely slow, no

just put the fries in the bag bro

Haha amazing reference

its not - its just front facing thing for the public imagine mining in space (there is a ton of super valuable metal up there), you can send a remote human robot up (what these are), and you dont have to worry about life support systems, what to do with shit and piss, the robot going nuts, feeding them, etc., and it doesnt matter if they "die" --- apply this to whatever situation, like radiation clean up or whatever is a super risky job or one that they cant moral just throw humans into a meat grinder to do

you dont need a humanoid robot to dump popcorn in a bag either, a popcorn vending machine could do this so much fast, better, and cheaper these arent for taking these types of jobs and they dont scale or make sense too

There are much more streamlined machines than a wobbly bi-pedal for doing real tasks via tele-operation.

probably worth more as telepresence than AI tbh...

I mean that's a complete pointless use of robot. You could just have a robotic arm dispensing it. We don't need humanoid robots to do everything, it's not efficient.

"buT ItS dONE wiTH ReMotES" People simply aren't ready for the future. And it's going to get here FAST

People on here saying it's teleoperated, but I don't think so. Teleoperation can move faster than we see here. After each bag of popcorn is handed out it goes for the same thumbs up gesture like it's part of its pre-set loop. And there is a staff laying out empty bags clearly separated in its line of sight, like we've seen with other object manipulation demos. I think it has the instruction to pick up bag -> fill with popcorn -> hand to guest -> give thumbs up The impressive thing to me is handing it to the guest, even when the guest is a small child, and picking up the empty bags. This isn't something new, but it is a slightly less controlled setting than the lab, which is a step forward.

Just like the current generation can’t imagine a life without internet, the same will happen with the next generation and robots

When i was a kod i went to Chuck-e-cheese and they had these robots dancing.

I heard this one before, but where exactly.. oh yeah, about fsd

Looks like Optimus would fit right in as a Chipotle server

that poor intern sweating in the VR 24x7

Cinema workers are cooked soon 🤖

They should maintain themselves, that’s why you buy 2 😎

*In true Paper Clip Dilemma style, it then seals all doors to the building and makes popcorn until it is coming out of the roof.* TASK COMPLETE ✅

There’s actually an interesting argument to be made that even if the robot isn’t sentient or going to remember how nice you are, you should still say please/thank you/still be nice so that you don’t lose your own sense of gratitude/appreciation.

Thing is, it's not that far off from doing all the things you mentioned. At the way software and AI is evolving, this platform is capable of doing all that and more.

And these kids will never learn to drive.

She's going to regret not acknowledging that thumbs up, taking that popcorn like an ungrateful gargoyle.

Waiting 49 years for a robot to hand out popcorn 😂😂😂😂😂🥹🥹

No. Simply, no. First, Optimus is advertised as being autonomous. Second, it doesn’t make any sense to have tele operated farm workers. Firefighters, even less, unless your robot is as effective as a human. Sending a robot into an unknown location to rescue people and fight fire means you cannot predict, for example, what the conditions for wireless communication are. A cable would be a risk. Wireless would be problematic too if you’re in a building with a lot of interference. So you need true autonomy. And Tesla is decades away from that, otherwise they would be autonomous in the boring tunnels.

Where’s the dude with the remote?

I wouldn’t let my kids anywhere near that thing. One software glitch away from a flailing samurai.

First rule in government spending: why buy one when you can have two at twice the price?

Um they are autonomous in the boring tunnels. And I'll take that bet that they are closer than being decades away. You short the stock and I'll go long, name the size of your bet and I'll put my money where my mouth is.

“Don’t forget to tip!”

One day they just might be the ones giving you instructions.

> Bomb squad [“We’re going to die!”](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh64nPT7JWk )

Seriously though, for scenarios where humans can't safely be in an area this would be good. There are lots of use cases where a teleoperated robot is actually valuable. Another example would be the animatronics at Disney parks, which honestly is most similar to what the Tesla bot is doing here.

You know what, you're right. Nowadays there is a lot of justified cynicism about the stuff that Tesla is doing, but in the midst of all that we can sometimes forget to just let ourselves have a sense of childlike wonder at seeing cool shit. Like, who cares if it ever makes them a trillion dollars; it's cool, and baby that's all you need.

Remote control unfortunately. There are always tricks with Elon.

> My local mall has a robot that makes coffee but doesn’t look humanoid, but it’s the same thing. Yeah, but with a software update the custom-coffee-bot isn't going to be able to suddenly be able to pour popcorn in a cup. Or water house plants. Or move parts off of an assembly line. The world has a lot of specialized robots. Automobile assembly lines are a prime example. General-purpose, reprogrammable bots that mimic human form (because all of our systems and controls are designed around that) are a more versatile solution. It's like comparing the computers in the Apollo rockets, to general purpose PCs.

Pretty cool. I’d work on that thumbs up tho, kinda floppy,

Damn this made me sad lol

I mean that’s kinda how venture capital and start ups work lol. You sell them the dream. Then you struggle and grind to make the minimum returns required to get the next level of funding

And I will celebrate Optimus at that time, but as of now I am not all that impressed.

It’s odd people are so focused on it at all. This is just  video of a robot serving popcorn. Nothing more to really stress over.

It's remote controlled y'all. We've all seen the videos from the Tesla day admitting as much. Tesla found a great way to outsource fast food jobs to Mexico!

Definitely not a human remote controlling that

Kinda feels like watching paint dry for a sec

Imagine the stress of that job. I forget shit from my own cart if I'm not paying attention.

That way Skynet will make it quick.

tesla is falling behind in every area. even that neuralink demonstration was just outdated technology.

yea, build kindness and manners into muscle memory

Lol😂😂😂

Came to comments expecting this,and it's top comment. Yay, we did it.

I know, it's kind of hilarious.

That is a lie. Unsurprisingly. They are not autonomous, they use human drivers. According to a range of articles, including some from this year, and a bunch of online review (since they are more recent and the loop doesn’t get press anymore). The fun thing is, your attempted power play only shows that apart from lying, you also don’t understand how the stock market works.

You dont see babies immediately standing either. Bipedal balancing is mostly solved, but it is still a far harder problem than people think when doing dynamic movements. Just look at all the BD videos of the robots falling over.

You're right. I made a milly on TSLA and have no idea how the stock market works. So short the stock, I'll go long and you can take my money.

You were fooled into thinking the guy dancing in the suit was a real robot? How dumb are you?

I never said balancing is trivial, but it isn’t new. Folks seem to be judging Optimus based on the “possibilities” and not the demonstrated capabilities. Sound familiar?

True. In fact, you can just add a dispenser-like machine and do this 10x faster and more accurately for 10% of the cost The whole point of humanoid robots is versatility. Either this robot needs to walk up to people and be able to serve them any food item prepared by this diner or it should be a simple dispenser.

We all know this is being controlled remotely. Everything is a marketing ploy.

mummy, i got popcorns from a remote-controlled robohitler! :D

Stuff like this always makes me think, even though I’m adult with money to do what I want, the best day to be born is always tomorrow.

is this exciting for any of y’all? serious question. im not huge robot guy

How much money is this diner going to lose?

These kids are watching their human replacement right before their eyes.

or any software.. these are still remote controlled

My directive is to serve a scientifically metered delivery of popcorn to optimize cost for my owners with just the right amount of sodium to increase your palette tolerance while gradually ruining your health to guarantee work for my health service brethren.

Sounds like…all tech companies

THeY tOOk our jOBs!!!

Thats what we thought the year 2000 will be like. Like in Jetsons. LOL

It’s Hollywood… what’s my motivation?

They'll have self-driving cars with chauffeur

20 years from now is going to be wiiiiild

I wouldn't want my boys hand near that... I don't think it has built in safety to not just malfunction and go nuts

Does Optimus need a food handlers license since it’s a humanoid?

We aren’t gonna make it are we? Humans?

Yeah robots will do all the work/jobs and we’ll keep voting for trickle down economics. What could go wrong?

They better get the UBI going or prepare for some wild times.

Braovo TESLA❤️👍🏆

This is AI

Very impressive how it needs to have a human supplying the containers 😂

🤡

But a person needs to feed the robot the container to put the popcorn in….what? We saw programmed movement of actuators, nothing new here.

How about it actually gets the container from the stack vs individually handed single containers.

Hand you a popcorn then says “Sarah Connor?”

Still needs to be handed an individual container each time. My god imagine it as a fire fighter lmao.

WHO is asking for this?

Basically how we interact with other humans today

OP misunderstood. Last time Tesla demonstrated their robots it came out after that they were not autonomous like they previously claimed but rather remotely piloted. Same with their “robotaxi” too. This is likely the same gambit.

Imagine your job is to sit behind the scenes and steal a robot in the front hanging out popcorn.

It may look cool now, but once it becomes the new norm, people might start to hate it. It’s like with coffee vending machines - at first, it seems cool that a machine can fully operate by itself and serve you. But after some time, you notice that no customers go to such places, while a café across the street is full of people because a real human serves you there. I have a pizza place near my home where a robot makes pizza for you - no humans at all. But for some reason, there are never any customers. These things only look cool at first glance, but they are not the future that people want.

where is it ?

i heard it crashed

I am listening to the "Flesh and Code" podcast and watched this just waiting for Murder Mode to engage on poor Olsen. As if receiving that name wasn't bad enough. . .

Well at least the box isn’t in the same position, but the scoop and fill is probably just a completely blind set motion

\*when the human operator is operating the robot serving you popcorn *fixed.*

Would also explain why that thing is so slow. Probably lag. An experienced (human) worker would probably have handed out like 8 popcorn boxes in that same time.

Pfft i have seem better robots in Disney world like 15 years ago

Maybe Generation Beta will see this in practically everything in their childhood.

Very efficient

I don’t eat fast food but i hope I live long enough to see all fast food places staffed by apps and robots. With one Maytag repairman getting paid to stand by.

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This is not Gen 3 . Looks like gen 2 at best. Gen 3 twice everything of Gen 2. Like 24hr between charges Payload of 160lbs. More agile than most people. And can Dance better than most people. Just helping disabled people is huge. One thing they will beat human at is being there. They will not abandon you very important to know when your disabled. Gen 1 $23,000 Gen 2 $43,000 Gen 3 $63,000 People pay way more for piece o crap car. Not to mention equipment. Bobcats $150,000 And it just sits there unless you or optimus operate it.

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How much is the popcorn?

At least bartenders can work from home now. And if we get enough data of these robots performing their duties autonomously, eventually we can train AI to do it instead.

....until you are DEAD!

That's the thing. This is a demo, nothing more. But if it can be operated remotely, then all that control data can be used to train an AI model to make it fully autonomous. I think people have gotten a little ahead of themselves with all the AI hype since chatgpt etc, but it is the future and is very clearly on its way.

Straight onto Skynet's naughty list

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