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Gimme dat!
I think it’s a little early to assume it’s Grok4…..if I told it Grok69 was the latest version, it’d probably agree that’s the version it’s on. Either way, a pretty cool and significant new feature in an otherwise lackluster Summer Update.
It’s grok 4
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Let’s gooooooo already I’m on 2025.20 :(
0.1% of the fleet isn’t exactly a “roll out” it’s more like a test before the actual roll out. A beta of a beta.
Note to HW3 folks: we have no need to worry about pesky new features or updates, as we’ve been effectively forgotten about. One less thing to worry about right!
In anticipation of the rollout I gave voice mode a try on my phone. I'm spoiled by OpenAI's voice mode. It's not terrible but it's buggy and clearly needs a lot of refinement, this is aside from the constant "we're busy, try again later" that I keep getting.
You made that up.
Yes, exactly. The Grok system prompt just tells it that it's the latest version of Grok, so it has no way of knowing what version it actually is. Chuck got it to say that it's Grok 4 by telling it that Grok 4 is the latest version. And the author of this article ran with it because he's not very intelligent.
There are video demos of it answering I am Grok 4. Also, Grok 3 didn’t have a great voice mode. This voice is Grok4 that was introduced last week.
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Wonder when we in the EU get the Mecha-Hitler…very big political discussion in GER…
The new Grok 4 is doing really well. Here's the livestream: https://x.com/xai/status/1943158495588815072 [Greg Kamradt said](https://x.com/GregKamradt/status/1943169631491100856): > First, the facts: Grok 4 is now the top-performing publicly available model on ARC-AGI. <...> The previous top score was ~8% (by Opus 4). Below 10% is noisy. Getting 15.9% breaks through that noise barrier, Grok 4 is showing non-zero levels of fluid intelligence Grok 4 also scored 38.6% (44.4% with Grok Heavy) on Humanity's Last Exam, eclipsing Gemini 2.5 Pro's 26.9% score ([source 32 mins in](https://x.com/xai/status/1943158495588815072)).
HOW ABOUT NO.
No, He grok'd it. 😁
No, all those videos have the user telling it that the latest version is Grok 4, so since its system prompt just tells it that it's the latest version, it simply repeats back that it's Grok 4. When they don't mention what the latest version is, it just says it's the latest version. It literally has no way of knowing what version it is. The system prompt is available on GitHub for anyone to view and you can see exactly what it knows about itself.
You can try Grok3 voice mode for free and compare it to the videos of the Tesla integration. It‘s clearly different, because it’s the new Grok4 voice mode.
Alpha?
Is it coming to 2020 intel cars?
It’s available for hw3 people just amd only
Really doubt it.
Either way we have been left in the dust for other things like FSD.
Depends if you have AMD processor or Intel. There are HW3 vehicles with AMD CPUs, if so you get the grok features.
No
How can you tell if you have AMD? I have a 2021 Model Y
How do you check to know if you have Intel or AMD processor?
Old tech is old, water is wet. See more tonight on channel 6 News.
Exactly. The promise that was made to us
2022 is the earliest I believe
I heard Ryzen cars only
They started phasing in AMD for 2022
You can find it in the car info section, theres a more info pop up or something of that sort that shows what your component info If you don’t currently have a full screen view of your car while parked , then you don’t have the intel chip
Totally pointless
BFD... I had Alexa in the MINI SE 3yrs ago and it interacts with car settings - but it has buttons too :- ). It'll be nice for Tesla to catch-up - seeing as they're self proclaimed tech driven. Bit of a mistake to release something that won't work yet as far as useful, substantive car integration. Seems more like a way for folks to get exposure to it - a captive audience. Still... anything to help sales! ..and it'll be fun to mess with even if skewed towards drawing from X 'intelligence' (arguably some extreme views are swirled in there).
On a long road trip, looking forward to having a heated debate between chatgpt ( on my phone )and grok about Elon is a net positive experience in humanity? I can be the moderator.
Thankfully I have Ryzen, but HW3 FSD is dead rip
Yes, but if you use Grok 4 in that way , it can take a long time to answer. 30 seconds or more. Well-researched answers are far from instantaneous. For talking to a car, we need a voice model that is real time.
Try sesame demo if you think the openai one is good. https://app.sesame.com/
I wished so much FSD update on this firmware 😞
What kind of car do you have? Do you have HW4?
I’m an avid connoisseur of porn, but I don’t want to see Grok doing a 69 with ChatGPT or CoPilot. Ewww!
That’s how roll outs start.
And what about the voice?
So don’t use it?
Huh? What about it?
Have to be in the car. It’s in the settings somewhere - can’t remember the name of the tab. But you cannot see from the app.
The person listed two reasons why it was Grok 4. You addressed one of them, so what about the other data point offered?
Ah, I see. The new voice is called Eve, and that's not shown here. Ara is the old voice.
So you’re saying the voice in the vehicles isn’t the new voice that would be indicative of Grok4? I’ve never used any Grok and both my Model 3 are intel, so I won’t be anytime soon, either.
Frankly I'm not sure Grok's voice mode is even related to Grok 4. It might be a completely separate model that's improving on its own path. But the new voices that contain the recent new improvements are called Eve and Sal, and those voices aren't available for Tesla right now.
Wow that’s incredibly useless without vehicle integration. The big allure was being able to use car functions with natural language and help set routes etc.
I believe it's considered 2022.3 was the AMD implementation
Worse update ever unless you live in the US and own the newest model
Stop making stuff up when you don’t know
This is pretty neat. My only experience is with Gemini Live. I have to assume that is one of the worst. Sesame seemed way better.
Link :)?
What promise?
Sigh… https://x.com/tesla/status/1120480117338398720?s=46&t=3ET466L6w8ynrrSgKxuuCQ
My hw3 model s does fsd very well
Tried it out today on the drive home and it’s actually a lot of fun to mess with. Hoping it can eventually work with navigation and car functionality though but this has huge potential in my opinion.
All hw3’s can self drive. Full self driving means something entirely different
Rumors are out that intel will be included at some point.
https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2916/grok-may-come-to-intel-based-teslas
ElevenLabs have the best speech
Very interesting scenario. Would love this video.
Possibly in an upgrade release. This is just the beta and first iteration, same kind of rollout for nearly all other big changes. Features are almost always sent out as soon as possible with limited functionality, and then they're improved update to update over the next year.
Agreed, basically "we're working on some really cool stuff, so check out this demo software now instead of in December".
Anyone that bought their car on the promise of future capabilities is an idiot.
2 weeks
Lolwut
😔
HW3 with Ryzen processor :/
That’s the same I have. Looks like I’ll get it too!
there won't be a debate, most likely they will both say "for all its shortcomings, its advantages significantly outweigh the disadvantages"
A roll out is continuous.
It’s like a concept of an alpha.
LOL never happy. Having AI at the tap of a button or voice summon in the car without your phone is utter rubbish!
do you have proof that the videos are just users telling it that its Grok 4? or are you pulling that from thin air?
That's.... not true.
More of a preconception of an idea
The HW3 computer is from 2018. Did you really believe it was future-proof when no other piece of technology is? How's your iPhone XS treating you?
... eventually. Probably.
I think it depends what you want to do. Grok isn't adjusting temperature or navigation routes, it's conversational. Therefore, Grok taking 30 seconds to invent a bedtime story for your kid in the backseat isn't really that bad.
They also sold this as recent as 2023 so yeah. The difference, if you're talking iPhone xs, that was actually discontinued in 2019. Do you have a better argument?
Stop crying. Tesla doesn’t owe you any updates.
When you bought it in 2023, did you not know it was a 2018 innovation?
Xiaomi cars in China can interact with the car, can even use the cameras to identify a make and model you see on the highway. Say what you want about Elon, but had he not started Tesla...we'd somehow be even further behind than we already are.
Nothing is future proof, but I think the current FSD on HW 4 in the model 3 is really good. Worth 3 or 4k, but not the 8 they’re asking. They could probably focus more on efficiency vs raw power in the future.
2018 S with HW3 installing 2025.26 right now oddly enough. Not AMD
Sure but can I not complain? And HW4 will be gone before we know it, onto HW5.
But he didn't start Tesla...
He acquired Tesla by corporate takeover and his fat pockets.
I haven’t got it yet smh
Very true.
Yeah, HW4 will pass as all things do, but at least nobody's surprised by it. You can complain all you want, but it's not doing much except wasting time you can't get back.
Very wrong. If there's any issues or bugs, they halt. Could be server estimations or data delays, all which allow staged rollouts to expand.
Checked my 2022 model y it has it
Musk essentially purchased the name. Pre-Elon, the "company" was a couple of guys working in a small industrial unit. They bought a kit car called a Piontek Sportech and put an electric motor in it, sourced from another company called AC Propulsion. They made three prototypes of this car, but not a single car was produced for sale. No original car designs, no cars, no customers. Ok, so they had the idea of powering the car with laptop batteries, which was cool, and clearly Elon thought so, too. So, when Elon came to see them, they had never designed or built a single production car. This is all they had. Essentially nothing much more than an idea.
Elon only became CEO at the very end of the roadster's development, the same year as its release. The roadster laid the foundation for most of what followed. Elon hired well and is a reasonably good businessman in that regard, but many of his key engineering decisions have been questionable at best. His willingness to take risks and identify decent talent is his biggest skill set but his alienation of so many has decimated that capability.
But they hate Elon, so slander it is
Go to Vehicle Options > Software > Additional Vehicle Information
lmfao, HW3 was in April 2019, and for the most part, people started receiving them with their 2020 model year cars. This was around when the order backlog was finally being fulfilled, and late 2019 was the first time you could actually order and receive a model 3 within a few weeks. The large majority of HW3 cars were produced well after 2020, maybe even 2021-2022. I guess you can exaggerate all you want, but it’s absolutely quite pathetic that there’s no upgrade path (at least right now) for m3 owners with iPhones 2 years older than their car getting iOS 26 this year. If you want to draw analogies, the least you could do is be correct.
Intel Atom when? It's 100% online feature anyway, isn't it?
Upvote for "The Money Pit" reference.
I think that’s what makes him a genius. He figured out to completely shift the paradigm in the American automotive industry. He’s obviously fucking awesome at hiring and project management; delegation, and executing plans.
I live in California and my Tesla is brand new. I just bought it 4 months ago but I haven't received the update yet. Why is that ?
It's rolling out very slowly. I have a HW4 Model S. I haven't received the update either. Keeping perspective is key. How many 2022 model cars are people this excited to receive a software update for? Not many. Most manufacturers simply don't give significant updates to old models in order to pressure people to buy new models. Tesla doesn't do that until hardware necessitates it. I respect that.
HW4 vehicle and still no update :(
Anyone else have the update pulled back? It was downloading, but had stopped when I checked back later. No notification, no version update installed, no more mention of an available update. Said I was up-to-date with the previous version.
Yes me too (22 Ryzen model 3)
Thanks, wanted to make sure it wasn't just me. Curious as to why.
Me too, model 3 2023
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