Prefabricated Tesla V4 Supercharger Cabinet Drawings Emerge in Permits for Richmond CA Upgrade

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This is an 8 stall expansion of an [existing 16 stall supercharger site in Richmond CA.](https://www.tesla.com/findus?bounds=37.965040235988695%2C-122.13302791931153%2C37.83174941921366%2C-122.48476208068848&search=Richmond%2C%20CA&location=richmondcapiercestreetsupercharger&functionType=nacs) The V4 cabinets and pedestals indicated in the site plans show that this may be the first site with 800V fast chargers. The prefab layout is designed for pull through access to easily charge tow vehicles. The engineering specs show that 8 pedestals will be powered by one V4 cabinet. The previous V3 cabinets only power 4 charging stalls so Tesla has been able to double the power efficiency of their rectifier equipment while increasing total power output.

Awesome!

I still don't understand why the arrangement is so impractical for users. Every gas pump in the world shows how it would be better. And I'm not even often on the road with a trailer. Even if there is no charging point behind the car, someone places signs there, which are then driven over instead.

Chargers are not the same as gas pumps though.

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If the rumored priority system perhaps Tesla can predict when a Cybertruck in tow mode is coming to a charger with pull through and “lock out” that charger to anyone else to be reserved for said cyber truck. We have to see how this works, as the vast majority of drivers and now with the addition of other EVs are no where even close to as tuned in as anyone who even comes to this subreddit even once in their life… but in theory software can solve this. I don’t disagree though that your point if a mindless practical solution is king… but with the time it takes to charge, and a truck being substantially longer just due to double the pack size a gas station setup just isn’t practical. So some sore of stationary charging is needed. Pull through are also substantially more work, might not seem like it but building stalls in a line, often time with very simple and low sqft of concrete is now doubled or tripled by just needing additional concrete or curb for a stall that juts out into the stall. Interesting problem that humans haven’t faced but entirely solve able at the very least with just more money.

I have these in my city

Does not matter whether it’s a cable or tube. It makes more sense to place devices at the side of a car instead of their back. Because cars do not move sideways. I‘m right now on a road trip crossing Germany, Lithuanian, Estonian and Latvia. And there is simply one optimal, troublefree positioning: at the back of the cars, *between* the cars.

Please do the math. Calculate the area of a gas station: the refueling area, pumps and any lanes needed to drive around them. Divide that area with how many cars can refuel in a given time. Do the same for Tesla superchargers: the area of charging spots + chargers + lanes to reach them. Use a map or even ballpark it with car sized rectangles. You'll see that the density of Tesla superchargers is much higher than gas stations, at the expense of more complicated drive into/out of the charging spots. Towing and trucks are currently less of a problem and on the future Tesla can solve it with a software update where people will be assigned a charging spot before they park. Such a system can also optimize charge speeds for all the rest of the cars.