$TSLA CFO sells tons of shares, little to no insider buys.

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Quarterly sales numbers are gonna be rough I reckon. Living in Canada, there are almost no junipers anywhere.

It’s a blackout period for employee stock transactions.

There's a lot around the GTA. And also I just don't realize what it is a lot of the time. At a glance its hard to tell them apart from other cars compared to the older Y. They look like a Hyundai from the front and like a Prius from the back. And from the side it mostly just looks like an old Model Y.

No ESPPs? 10b5-1s?

Hmmm, not my experience. I see a few here and there but not nearly as many as you'd expect for a new revision of the best selling car.

How many did he have in the 1st place?? If it's in the million, then no this is a small amount...

Anecdotal evidence is none at all

I wasn't presenting it as objective evidence. Of course it's anecdotal lol

It's in the picture. They sold less than $5 million.

u can’t expect ppl do buy new cars when old customers spent double the price during covid/ inflation period. obviously not for ppl make who doesn’t make 6figs a year.

If you’re trying to infer anything about concrete numbers and offering anecdotal evidence as your supporting evidence you’re just wrong. The only way that it informs anything is dumb luck.

And we aren’t going to mention Elon’s bro sold $32million…

lol you must be fun at parties

I’ve anecdotally heard I’m a riot…oh wait…

Which is why we can assume this was sold through his automated plan and there isn’t much to read into the story.

I ordered a Juniper version back in April and the expected delivery date is..... Sept - Oct. So thats prob reason why. Reason for that long delivery time? No idea.

so basically peanuts

In Sweden the delivery date is this month if you order today, for all versions of Model Y.

They’re gearing up to receive shipments from Berlin is my guess.

Nice self-own, dude

Is it this consider inside trading?

They weren’t able to get many here before the tariff situation started.

Why? If anything knowing people were paying double for the cars a few years ago makes them more enticing as they're cheaper now?

🤣

Not in the slightest. Employees are not chained to their ownership forever.

“There are an unlimited number of reasons for an employee to convert stock to cash. Whereas there a few very specific reasons for them to buy stock.”

It's blackout period.

Also executives can’t just sell stocks at will. These were likely scheduled to be sold months/years ago.

For all the volatility, the stock is still up 60% on the 1 year. Solid stock.

I think it's a combination of tariffs making deliveries delayed (Sept-Oct is the timeline for a new order right now) plus the outrageous pricing. I'm in Ontario too and the new Y is: $84,990 + $2500 destination fee + misc fees = $87,623 Add HST Total = $99,013 $100k for a Model Y...

The amount of uniformed people when it comes to employee trades and windows is wild. This is why we keep seeing the same BS headlines

These are option exercises, not the same as a regular sale. If you don't know the difference, don't bother commenting.

Canada needs to drop Chinese auto tariffs and get BYD and others into the market asap..

Good clickbait though

You must be new here. Kimbal regularly sells his shares. He has periodically sold a total $251M over the last 5 years. This is all prearranged and filed with the SEC. He still owns $457M of $TSLA shares. It's not like he rolled out of bed, read some head line, logged into Etrade and dumped a bunch of stock. If 90%+ of your networth was in TSLA you'd be dumping it and diversifying as well.

I’ve seen a lot here in Houston.

Insider trading. LOL. "Okay, it's not insider trading, but how about RICO?" You gotta love Reddit.

Selling your own stock on the open market, publicly, is not remotely either of those, of course. But maybe that’s what you’re lolling about?

Well, the real numbers are out and it's not good. "Tesla reported another record sales plunge Wednesday. Tesla reported it sold 384,122 cars in the quarter, down nearly 60,000 cars, or 13.5% from the sales total a year ago. That marks the largest year-over-year drop in sales in the company’s history."

Oh for sure, it’s a huge issue for sales.

Calls all the way. Whatever I logically feel towards Tesla, I'm going to do the exact opposite because the stock appears to respond that way.

I mean all I’m saying is there’s not evidence of how I am at parties, based on this you can’t know anything (which is the point of the joke but now I had to explain it)

Right, so say that and don’t use an anecdote? I wasn’t saying anything about Tesla sales numbers, I’m saying anecdotes are a dumb way to infer about sales numbers of an auto manufacturer. I was expecting the numbers to be down but that’s not my reason for adding a comment here.

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Yes. Of course it's not either of those. Reddit the only place you'd find someone asking, "Is this insider trading" when an executive does a scheduled stock sale. Reddit breeds insane conspiracy thinking.

Answers to anything financial that Reddit does not understand: “It’s money laundering.” “They’re donating the money to get a tax write-off.” “They can do that only because they don’t have to pay any taxes.”

I love it when Redditors ostensibly against fascism immediately jump to all manner of imaginary legal transgressions and want to get the power of the state to crack down on the bad people. "Why aren't these people in jail?!"

Employee blackouts ended 2 or 3 years ago. Not sure about big bag holders in the boardroom but in general blackouts went away. Source: ex Tesla employee

This exec did that, but Elon just sells whenever he wants -- no plan.

This is correct.

Correct. And furthermore, the vast majority of stock buys from employees are really just conversions of work-related Incentive Stock Options (ISOs) or NSOs. It counts as a 'buy' because that's what it is still; just at a predetermined price. That's true for all of the tech companies, not just Tesla. Compensation in tech is heavily stock-based, so there's gonna be very few people who want to buy MORE of their company's stock, when it's already the dominant part of their income. You'd be an idiot to not diversify.

(sorry if this is doublepost, I can't see if my previous comment posted successfully or not) True, most Tesla employees aren't subject to blackout because they don't possess sensitive knowledge about company operations or innovations. That's the majority of Tesla employees, who are factory worker, service center, or delivery center types. But the majority of employees WITH SIZABLE EQUITY COMPENSATIONS are still subject to blackout. Think highly-paid engineers, business ops, software engineers, etc. They may be less than 10% of the company, but they probably represent 50+% of the stock, because they get paid a lot more of their higher compensation in equity, similar to any other major tech company these days.

CFO gets paid in stock options, sells shares to get cash... OP is shocked lol. Insiders don't need to buy when they get stocks for free...

The SEC usually doesn't show up in a uniform

You do understand if these are sales, they put these in months ago right ? You can't just immediately sell at will as a csuite exec

They seem pretty obvious to me when within 100 feet of

There is value though in knowing that a senior executive bought shares on the open market -- not just conversions of options. Even more important is to know what percentage of his/her annual compensation, was it a drop in the bucket or was it a huge bet in the future of the company. That is really the only thing worth monitoring but give a huge insider perspective.

Any C level employee, or in sales, or who would have material knowledge of the current quarter have trading windows that close around earnings report time. I’m a lowly engineer at a fabless semi company and I dont have that insider knowledge, but we get company wide notices of trading windows opening and closing and some of my friends who work in customer marketing, sales, or production that do have knowledge are forbidden from trading during the window.

Maybe in your experience and it was also that way at Tesla for many years. My comment was that blackouts were removed across all departments and all colleagues of mine had the same, it was blanket across the company. I don't know if at country level management or maybe higher they still had blackouts, but whether sales, service, delivery, manufacturing, operations, none have been subject to blackouts for the past few years.

If you think a highly paid engineer is anywhere near the pay level of an exec or director then you’re high or seriously uninformed.

I’m buying more…..this is going to be the top stocks to own the next 12 months🤑🤑🤑

Completely wrong

I think it might be because “employee trade” isn’t accurate enough of a term? Isn’t it more like an “executive trade”? Seems like most employees at most companies are way too low down for any rules to be enforced (or apply) to them.

My deliver date also stated 1 month. But then it slowly crept further and further away.

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/07/10/meta-offered-apple-ai-executive-over-200-million/ > Apple apparently did not even attempt to match the offer. The proposed sum significantly exceeds the compensation of all Apple employees, other than that of CEO Tim Cook. Pang's compensation is among the highest ever offered in a corporate setting, rivaling packages for chief executives at major global banks.

We don’t know if he’s filling a management or high-level IC position. Even if he’s IC, the example is unprecedented so it’s an exception, not the rule.

Yes. My friend has TC 500k as a developer a few years out of college. That sounds like it would be low-executive at a non-tech company I'd guess