Inside Tesla’s AI Genius: VP Ashok Elluswamy Talks FSD, AGI, and the Future

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Not sure how this VP is saying it needs much more work for driverless, yet they are supposed to be releasing driverless in next month.

Maybe it's General Driverless versus Fenced Driverless. If they have mapped out the place where they plan on debuting driverless taxis, then that might be doable. But if the VP is talking about driverless anywhere, at anytime, then, yeah, they've got a ways to go.

Most likely that's what it is going to be, for now.

With vision-only fenced driverless? This still sounds pretty dubious. Mapping out an area only captures static fixtures, not dynamic roads like in real life. Like I guess it would prevent curbing the rims, but it's not going to help with pedestrians, cyclists and temporary construction.

God bless Tesla FSD and the lives it will inevitably save✝️ Truly a special gift to mankind. So many dark statistics of motor vehicle accidents i wont delve into, but its alot

>but it's not going to help with pedestrians, cyclists and temporary construction. Vision handles all of that right now.

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There are at least 3 incidents when FSD saved me. If I would have been driving myself, my response time would have been must slower and potentially could have caused an accident. For me, FSD is worth every penny.

I’ve noticed that it doesn’t over- (or yet, under-) react. It’s just so good at avoiding issues.

Indeed it is doing a great job. Just waiting for a few more promised features as well as little less strictness in paying attention. It's doing a better job than a human.

Better than this human at least. I’d like it to drive into my garage. That last 20 seconds of a journey where I have to actually drive is such a chore.

Has Tesla stated that the initial Austin rollout will be unsupervised? Most people seem like they will be surprised if it is not. I'd be surprised if it is. Edit: grok says yes, they stated that it will be unsupervised and no one will be in the car.

I don’t think it will be mapped as much as simply geofenced.

They mentioned this in the coming next notes recently, the fleet will share data about detours and unexpected obstacles.

You’ve misunderstood. Not lidar mapped geo fencing…just a system rule that keeps a car in a geo boundary.

Yeah, personally as a driver in Austin I found self driving to be goddamn flawless. I was floored by how capable it was. I assume that’s entirely because they’re dedicating all of their resources to the launch of robotaxis here but it’s been wonderful to reap the indirect benefit of their efforts

No one in the general public will trust it if there isn’t a driver. Early adopters, sure, but the vast majority aren’t signing up to risk their life in one.  Waymo was in public trial for over a year in Austin giving away free rides to get everyone comfortable with it

Not a huge risk tbh, if they keep it speed limited on city streets. Getting in a crash in a Tesla is pretty survivable. Don't ask how I know 😬

yep i wish it was free if only to save more lives but then capitalism

Yes. They are already doing "supervised" unsupervised rides in San Fran and Austin. The plan was to move to fully unsupervised in June.

When they say mapping, my guess is it's just the roads they may not want the nav to take, but probably also doing some additional model fine tuning/ training with video specifically from Austin cars.  So weighting the training data towards Austin scenarios.

I don't think you understand what tech Tesla has. It's generalised training on how to drive. Nothing to do with maps. The only thing maps do is in the navigation/ route planning, not in what it "sees" or how it drives.   You could kinda compare the mapping input that Tesla uses to a second person sitting in the car giving directions to the driver on where to turn next. The driver is still doing all the driving based on what they see, the input the navigator has is "take the next left".

Lol, true. I'm really looking forward to the next update that they promised is coming to park on the driveway/garage soon.

Wondering why some people are down voting this comment? What's wrong with this? 😕

while FSD seems close, Ashok clearly said something Elon wouldn’t ever say about Tesla Bot: “A key part of this will be the development of humanoid robots, which he believes will eventually be capable of complex industrial and domestic tasks, interacting with natural language, likely by 2035.” If something is 10 years away, its industry speak for “we have no idea how to solve it yet”

Elon said the Austin rollout in June will be Model Ys. If that's the case there will likely be a safety driver as you obviously can't put a safety driver in the cybercab since it has no steering wheel.

Yeah, and it's clearly not level 4 capable. Probably not even level 3

I never understood how this remap feature makes any Sense..If the car is "smart" emough to remap then it doesnt need a map.

No word about HW3 😒

I think it's on back burner for now ☹️

Gosh, stupid capitalism expecting me to do something before I receive the product of hundreds of thousands of man hours

Journey from 0 to 90 is relatively easy when compared to journey from 90 to 100.

it could be inbuilt and further sales but i wasn’t exactly complaining more explaining

Fair enough, to be fair to them they do a good job obfuscating the fact that FSD costs extra lol

Correct. Now the only question that matters is how quickly is it improving, and when will it reach level 3, and then level 4.

You think it's just a matter of time?

And it wont be opened to the general public at first, and probably not for a while. Initial service will be invite only similar to how Waymo started.

Could be 6 months. Could be 6 years, could be 60 years. As a Software Engineer, my educated understanding is that yes, it absolutely will happen in time. The only question is how much.

It's generally good in most places. I used FSD tonight and it was flawless. There are still limits to FSD but I can go a long time without intervention. FSD did however pull into the supercharger face in

Keyword in that sentence being "complex". Complex tasks may be 10yrs away but simple tasks (which are still useful) are much closer. Initial application us Optimus will be relatively simple, repetitive tasks. There are so many tasks on production lines that still use humans today for extremely simple, boring, repetivie, mundane things which Optimus will easily be able to perform in the near future.

Being in a car where the airbags blow is a good way to go deaf.

#WHAT?

Yeah, there's plenty of tasks that aren't that hard to do 99% of the time. Like a robot that takes out the trash, sweeps the floors, replaces toilet paper, etc. Sure, maybe 1% of the time, it'll run into a problem it can't solve (for now) like if there's a bag that won't fit into the dumpster. Whatever. A human can take over and provide explicit instructions for that. That's still more efficient

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But I don't see any reference to any religion in my comments 😔

Bro, check out chennai traffic on youtube. He is referring to those audience, where this podcast was hosted. That’s also his hometown in India.

How long is a piece of string? To drive everywhere is a long way away. To drive 99% of developed world is 2-3 years away. To drive in Chennai is a 100 years away.