2025.14.6 (FSD 13.2.9) Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

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Doubt it. HW4 hasn’t gotten much recently either.

Probably due to Robocab launch, all their focus is on improving FSD Unsupervised for Robocab. But we should expect something really good right after that. So I don't mind waiting couple of months and get Unsupervised FSD.

Unsupervised isn’t blanket coming to any Tesla currently on the road with the current hardware (HW3 or 4). You can quote me on that.

Well it's true that it won't be blanket coming, but we should expect much more options after Robocab launch in June.

Perhaps. I do think Tesla has dug themselves into a major hole on any number of things (only vision-based, no front bumper camera on most of their vehicles). It’s a shame because what’s there is amazing even on HW3 but full unsupervised is never coming with current hardware. I know the argument about how humans are vision based, so the car should be better than us with so many cameras. Well, yes and no. Our eyes and heads can move. We can pull over and adjust ourselves. These cameras do poorly in rain and snow or sun glare. Humans are much better in these situations. And I didn’t even get into the human aspect of driving. FSD doesn’t care about comfort as much as just “being right.” Sure, it’s fine to tailgate someone that close but it’s not comfortable. Anyway, what’s there is fantastic but we’re still a long way away.

Meanwhile, my 3 year old Model Y stuck on v12 continues to slam on the brakes every time there’s a culvert on the side of the road.

I feel your pain. Hope they will be able to upgrade you to AI4 as promised. I hope they don't do the same for AI4 once AI5 is launched. They should consider backwards compatibility.

> Unsupervised isn’t blanket coming to any Tesla currently on the road with the current hardware (HW3 or 4). — /u/WilliamG007

Part of the problem is they won't upgrade HW3 to HW4 until they're 100% sure HW4 will even work well enough to not get sued without upgrading everybody to HW5.

I think you were spot on except that last bit. They're absolutely working on the cab version, and at some point that should roll down to us, possibly in a chopped down model like they do from HW4 to HW3 now. How unsupervised it is by the time it gets to us, who knows, but there's a chance it will be a solid improvement for everybody.

I'm hoping we should get something good in the next couple of months.

Optimistic that Elon will actually hit a timeline he’s set aren’t you.

Release notes are unchanged from 13.2.8 and early reviews suggest little difference in performance. My uneducated guess is that there is something in here that’s prep for 14.x. Call it shadow mode or some type of data collection campaign, but nearly 3 months from 13.2.8 with only a dot release to show for it with the Tesla AI folks indicating excitement for June seems like a more major release is near.

😂

Define “Improved camera cleaning”. Because so help me if it tries cleaning MORE of what isn’t there I am going to rip the wiper blade right off the truck. Edit: never mind the last sentence says it’s for every vehicle except Cybertruck so I guess I’ll remain in wiper hell for now while using FSD.

I've gotten multiple updates to v12 over the past month or so, but all are minor updates. My point is that they're still pushing out updates to v12 (at least minor fixes).

Deactivate AP right after the break slamming and report in the voice prompt so the AI Labelers can catch the culverts.

I do. Multiple times per day. For months.

Musk said that the launch in June is with Model Ys. So running on bog standard HW4, by the looks of it.

3 years old???? Might as well be a 1998 model

I agree, or something hidden to A/B test for disengagements

They haven't promised HW4 because HW4 doesn't fit in an HW3 car. You don't want HW4 anyway, because AI5 will be much more powerful. You should be hoping for AI5. HW4 is unlikely to reach full autonomy or they wouldn't be making AI5 so much more robust.

Were never getting unsupervised FSD

I am not sure why people have three year-old cars. That used to be acceptable when there was not the technology that we have today.

Why?

Because current owners of HW4 won't be able to fully support it. They can't even fix the nag when im trying to look at my blind spot mirror which is on the screen

Perfect!

Doing free QA for Tesla and they still don't fix it. Wild

They are launching robotaxi service with Model Y's and AI4 in a month.

Might as well be driving a horse and buggy

It's not about fixing, its deliberate so people continue to focus on driving (since it's Supervised). I've been using FSD for the past two years and have seen the improvements. I only get this nag that you're complaining about once in a while and only when I'm distracted way too much. For my normal drive, it's super smooth with zero nags.

I get nagged every single drive. I don’t care if it works for you, it doesn’t for me on a highland model 3 When you build software. Proclaiming “it works for me” is the biggest cop out to a discussion about something being broken.

You act like there's a toggle switch Tesla is refusing the flip: "Brake test along culvert, yes/no."

I had Highland before I switched to Juniper. I had 2023 X as well, all on HW4. I'm pretty sure there is something you may be doing wrong which gives you that many nags. Just for reference, my average annual drive is 35k kms and I'm using FSD 90% of the time. The only time I get nag is when I spend too much time searching for songs on Spotify. Other than that, no complains from me.

They will likely have safety drivers hence why they’re using model Ys and not cybercab.

They certainly flipped something. Never happened before 12.6

Calibrate cameras fixes it

Oh believe me I’ve tried.

They're probably required to have safety drivers so don't let that be the live or die measure of success. Day one will also not be the end of development.

Other parts of the country have varying degrees of success. It may mostly come down to map data now so they will get there.

AI5 is coming because technology never stops and eventually suppliers do stop providing old parts. Elon has already said that AI5 is overkill for FSD and is musing about using the extra capability for Grok. If needed, HW3 cars are most likely to get a cut down version of AI5 than a version of HW4.

I get more nags when musics blasting or looking at some thing on the phone. Somehow it knows and I’m driving a a 2020 stage coach

Can you point me to what you are referring to with Tesla AI folks getting excited? Feel like it's been quite a while of just radio silence

https://x.com/tesla_ai/status/1921990114344915116?s=46&t=DoVVkkNNzyjSQ6kKVjoB1w https://x.com/tesla_ai/status/1917975863045374373?s=46&t=DoVVkkNNzyjSQ6kKVjoB1w Just a couple of cheeky posts

Wish I could update from 2025.8.7. My 2019 M3 did, but not my 2022 MY.

Thanks!

Of course using phone while driving is a big no no, whether or not you're using FSD. So it's following rules.

Elon’s credibility is suspect.

We have a MXP, and we keep the automatic windshield wipers off, and user Rainx instead.

He said this at about the same time he said that they would provide a hardware upgrade at Tesla's cost for those that had already bought FSD. He says what he believes at the time and makes good when the science proves it impossible to keep going forward. Everything else is opinion and bias. In my opinion, HW3 may still be adequate. Regardless, anyone who doesn't care will be happy with HW3 and anyone who thinks they can make a buck off Tesla will be happy to trade up.

I mean, personally, I love blanket coming.

Do you not realize how interconnected all the coding for FSD is?

I have a 2021 MY LR with Intel and HW3 and just got the 2025.14.6 update. Notes say it's just minor fixes.

Are you running FSD? This sounds like an autopilot issue. Latest v12 works quite well.

My other car is also MY21, besides minor uogmdayed, I also got some navigational improvements like avoid highways, destination charger and fee more. I have Enhanced Autopilot on this car and since ages I have not received any update to that.

FSD V13 on HW4 is mindblowing good.

Don't even need to disengage nowadays, it does recognize a lot of voice reports like "report, inexplicable agressive braking." and it does take it as a report, unsure though if it is indexed for FSD though.

There is a place where there are two lanes to make a left turn at an intersection after a highway exit, and given the navigation route to my work it is best to use the right most lane to make the left turn in question, FSD has been blindly choosing the left one, and I have been disengaging giving them voice explanation for the reasonning behind my disengagement, and a few software updates later, I can tell it hesitating to make the blind choise that is unreasonable (because it will have to fight with traffic to change lanes after the left turn). There is another place where there are two lanes to make a left turn and right after the left turn we need to take an onramp on the right side of a 3 lane blvd, and it used to blindly choose the left most lane, almost one software update later, it completely understood that it needed to choose the right most one, it still hestitates I would say 10% of the time, but it's almost 100% doing it right now.

Not just that, the reason for two steps back in some software updates were because complete modules were rewritten in NNs when they were harwritten codes.

I just want my update already. Geeez!

lol yes I’m running FSD.

Totally agreed, my over 90% drive is on FSD and it's with zero interventions and extremely rare nagging.

Yes. I love FSD V13!

The question if you do that, does it record and save all the video clips and system inputs at the time of that event?

whooop whoop! oh my 2 year old car is still an entire major release behind. thanks tesla. Honestly at this point AI3 cars should just be given FSD since it won't get any upgrades at this point.

Free? Poster is paying for the privilege.

I have a 24 Y that also does this. At highway speeds with people behind me is scary.

The measure of success is the day the Tesla lawyers greenlight the deployment of a taxi with no steering wheel to a crowded metro area. Until then it’s the same as it has been for many years now i.e. supervising what is essentially a level 2 system that may or may not be able to get to your destination without any disengagements.

My hw4 car in 13.2.8 is substantially worse in almost every respect than it was when I bought it with 13.2.6. I wish I have never updated. And now my media player won’t play songs. Internet works fine(browser, speed test etc.) but it’s just Spotify, Apple Music etc won’t play the songs. The idea of a technology car is great, but in practice it’s got a lot of potential issues. And I’m dealing with them constantly.

The way AI is becoming more and more efficient recently, leads me to believe they will be able to get HW3 working with FSD unsupervised. 2 years ago you needed a commercial grade GPU to run some of the simplest AI image diffusion models. Nowadays, you can run SDXL Turbo on a Raspberry Pi (albeit, slowly). Framepack can even make 60 second videos from a still image on my 3070 laptop GPU. The results are impressive, but also have less variety as the model has been optimized to run on lesser hardware. Driving isn't really that complicated. I don't mean to demean the work that Tesla AI is doing, it's very impressive, but you can teach any idiot to drive, and they can usually do it safely so long as you can convince them to pay attention, which is not an issue for AI. I think the current model has a lot of noise that can be optimized out, both improving performance on HW 4 & 5, and making it possible to run on HW3.

So there isn't going to be a 13.3.x branch?

Nobody but Tesla knows. There very well could be 13.2.9.1 or 13.2.10 next or, yes, 13.3.x but I think conventional wisdom is v14 would likely be a robotaxi-focused build that would incorporate the “last 100 feet” pieces that are mostly missing from v13. Things like driveways, specific areas within parking lots, etc. Basically merging actually smart summon with pins as destinations on the map that would ensure the cars can get as close to your destination as possible. (Waymo “solves this” by occasionally making folks walk the remainder of the way, which is also an option for Tesla I suppose.)

Also true.

This is not true. Whether or not Elon follows up on a promise really truly depends on two factors: 1. Whether his attention is on it. Which is usually determined by whether users make enough noise or influencers on social media make enough noise. 2. Cost/effort For example when Autopilot was first introduced, he promised to provide a path to upgrade to older Tesla owners (I was one of them). That’s not a science is not there type of problem. But it was very costly and time consuming to rip up the pillars and panels and run new wiring with camera modules. Not to mention a new compute module. It could be done. But very costly. The service center basically started telling people “it won’t happen”. There wasn’t enough noise from the user base, so Elon moved on. Nothing wrong with this of course. But that does mean take what Elon says at any moment with a huge bucket of salt. He’s not the type to hold back statements until he’s reasonably sure it can be done.

I hate FSD. I can barely move my head, touch the screen or look in the side mirror without watch the road being barked at me.

Cybertruck will let you turn it off and they turn back on whenever it feels like. Insane software bug nonsense going on for months on end.

That sounds horrible. Maybe rewire them with a hard cut off at the fuse?

I cannot speak to the days before Model 3. Elon has said that there was a degree of bait and switch when the company was on the brink of bankruptcy. So over promising would be consistent. That said, HW3 is still the majority of the fleet that he says will soon be turned on for Robotaxi. Because of the march of time, it is likely that older S and X will never be made part of the Robotaxi fleet. Possibly also my older M3. But they are still working on autonomy for these cars. They are also making various offers to encourage these owners into newer cars. A new owner of an older car should have a lesser expectation. I still expect them to make good for many/most of the older cars.

I’m pretty sure these small FSD updates where they change the last number are mostly just tuning updates or bug fixes. Maybe they added some more tuning data and that’s about it

This one is taking ages to download, 2025.14.6 for some reason.

Definitely hoping for 14.x soon. And their X post on 'something is cooking' indicates that we well.

I had this issue couple of times and opened a service request. One time the issue was related to corrupted download which got stuck and the other time if was cache issue. Both times Technician remotely cleaned memory and pushed the update again, which was installed flawlessly. So if it happens constantly, open a service request.

Thanks - I think for some reason it disconnected from wifi. When I clicked on the screen in the car it started up again and finished quickly.

There is no major release until Level 3 driving is launched. It’s all just fluff until then.

This is all just fluff until Level 3 autonomy is released.

Whether Tesla will call it Level 3 or not, v14 will be way more advanced than 13.x and its highly likely that next major update is 14.x in the next couple of months (just wait for Robotaxi launch in June).

I have a launch year Model Y and a 2018 M3 and both are on V14. What are you stuck on such a low release?

I’m getting it (and a lot of «minor fixes» updates lately) on my non fsd Y. Crossing my fingers that it’s data gathering or some kind of verification running in the background to prep for a European fsd launch.

HW4 might do hand-off eyes-off autonomy. Butt in the driver's seat. But since the model has grown such that I think now they are using BOTH AI chips on HW4, there is no redundancy. HW5 will probably be required for robotaxis.

> I have a launch year Model Y and a 2018 M3 and both are on V14. No they aren’t. V13 is the latest FSD release and it is only available on vehicles equipped with HW4 which has only existed since mid 2022.

Gotcha - I saw 2025.14.xx on my vehicles and assumed that was V.14, apparently not.

Yeah, 2025.14.xx is the rest of the software that runs the car. FSD has its own versioning.

Did it change with the update I heard that what is was for? It changed that a lil bit

Is that with the new update? Or just in general?

It's with 13.2.8 But I just got 13.2.9 so let's see if I can see any improvements.

Just waiting for the summon range limit to get doubled it's such a small range right now 😔

Oh yeah, for sure. Also looking forward to reverse summon as well.

Oh yea banish , while very useful and nice, I wonder what would happen if it doesn't find a parking spot would it just completely freeze? And block traffic and someone ? I don't know what happened but after the latest update sometimes when I try to summon my car completely stops and refuses to go any further and just block traffic

If you're using any autonomous features (FSD, autopilot, auto park,ect...), when you activate them, it turns the windshield wipers back on auto.

Installed 2025.14.6 yesterday afternoon. Check thus morning and lost 3% energy overnight. Anyone else having this issue?

I have the exact same problem with Juniper since I bought it and before Spring Update. I lose 3-4 percent in a few hours at home, with no sentry mode or cabin overheat protection or any other thing that consumes the battery. I have 2021 Y as well, same settings and it never loses battery in idle like Juniper.

Yes. But on CT even when you turn it to off it goes back to auto when it feels like even if you don’t disengage FSD and reengage it.

I have a 2025 model y (not the juniper), that is also on v12. I thought it was supposed to get v13 like everyone else on hw4.

Tesla doesn’t get to make the determination when it’s level 3 which is the point. They can’t be trusted at all to make these decisions it’s all smoke and mirrors for them.