Meanwhile, yesterday on a nice sunny day my model S randomly swerved into oncoming traffic lane because it mistook a shadow for an object
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Nice
Make sure to give the feedback after taking over from FSD.
Very nice!
Funny how this post is downvoted for no reason. Just goes to show how bias Reddit is
Bets that Tesla counts this as meeting their June Robotaxi deadline?
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they are calibrated in the factory
lol, I was early early owner of a model 3. I downvote this nonsense because it is just another example of the bullshit that means nothing. I was one of the first normal citizens in the FSD beta. We are really no closer to unsupervised FSD than we were then. I was excited in 2019, 2020, and 2021, I am done having any faith that unsupervised happens via Tesla.
Ok, but you didn't hit a vehicle head-on. Comments like yours make me think the poster thinks their car would have done the same behavior with an oncoming car. The car thought there was an obstacle, so swerved to avoid the obstacle in a safe manner. If there had been an oncoming car, I'm going to go out on a limb and say your car wouldn't have swerved into the oncoming lane. Would you rather your car hit an obstacle on the road rather than swerve? There's clearly a balancing act between too cautious and too aggressive with determining obstacle classification and avoidance.
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I call BS. FSD is miles and miles better than it was in 2018. It ain't what Musk told everyone but it is constantly improving.
I think you're missing the point.
There was no obstacle on the road. A shadow is not an obstacle. Lol
Cute, but really means nothing in terms of FSD quality outside the confines of (effectively) a parking lot.
For real, some real low quality trolling. The difference between now and when I first got the free trial last August is like night and day. I use it for 99% of my drives and very rarely have to disengage or correct it.
Let me just state you are obviously a noob. FSD didn't exist at all in 2018 for average people. The first "public" release was in October 2020. I think you have trouble reading. I said UNSUPERVISED FSD. We are no closer than than in 2018. And no, we are no fucking closer to unsupervised FSD today than in 2018. Has FSD improved from October 2020 to April 2025. Sure. It has gone from a crazy noob teenage driver to an overconfident noob teenage driver. But FSD is no where close to being unsupervised.
Hence why I said this: > There's clearly a balancing act between too cautious and too aggressive with determining obstacle classification and avoidance. But in a situation where there's no significant risk to a quick swerve, you can lower your threshold slightly for obstacle classification, meaning a shadow (in your situation) could trigger an avoidance response, but if you'd been driving along a concrete barrier it wouldn't have had the same response. This is a computer continuously analyzing hundreds of ever-changing objects in real time. A shadow and a pot hole can sure look similar, and I'm guessing if it had been a pot hole and your car *hadn't* swerved you'd be here with a snide remark about how your Model S blithely drove into a pot hole and destroyed a tire.
Sure but it’s no where near unsupervised levels
i downvoted it for multiple specific reasons 1) teslaai bot serves up a torrent of clickbait 2) this "feat" is not remotely impressive
He didn't say it isn't better he said >We are really no closer to unsupervised FSD than we were then. Which is honestly true. It is still lethally bad unsupervised. I am with the OP it is not in any meaningful way closer to unsupervised FSD. Yes the day my Model S gets crushed for scrap FSD might be even better and still really no closer to unsupervised FSD.
Down voted because this has been reported for months now.
If it’s not impressive, why aren’t other auto manufacturers doing it?
Their original FSD video they staged in 2018 could probably drive them out of the factory with no problem.
They say June. In Austin. That’s not an arbitrary “before the end of some future year.” It’s a rather specific month. Can they be late? It’s possible. But it’s equally possible that we are two months away from unsupervised FSD.
Which you can already do with ASS!
I see what you mean, and I do agree with you, but this isn't a reason not to send feedback. If a system is "good enough" then that's not enough to stop improving it. Take a buggy, slow app for example; you can use every part of the app, but it's all very inconvenient and annoying to use, and because of these things someone might prefer to not use the app, just like someone might prefer not to use FSD if these things are an issue.
It's new in giga texas
Reddit: 1. Post your honest opinion 2. Get downvoted to hell 3. "You can't post in this subreddit because your karma is too low"
Two days ago my HW4 MYLR as it drove through an intersection drifted to the left and went over the yellow lines. It did that three times on a 10 minute drive, and I had to take over so I wasn’t driving in the opposite lane. Like, what? All on intersections I drive frequently and have never had an issue with
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Waymo is driving around multiple cities with no driver
True, but they have issues with scaling. Keep in mind that Waymo has been doing full autonomous rides for over 5 years yet they still have under 1000 vehicles. They have no experience in volume production, and their vehicles require retrofitting other auto manufacturers vehicles. The difference with Tesla is their solution is scalable. Tesla is firm on launching their service in Austin in June. I’m pretty confident that they will have way more than 1000 vehicles operating in 5 years time.
Waymo is changing manufacturers to scale even further with cheaper cars, and their solution works. As someone who uses FSD all the time, it’s got a long way to go before they’re allowed to use it in populated cities. Tesla has been firm on many things and missed many of those deadlines, doubtful they hit this one
I have 2 fucking Tesla both had enhance AP 2018 and FSD in 2022. What I meant was the self driving tech. What they had in 2018 versus what we have now is miles and miles apart. That is what I meant... fucking defensive much there buddy?
That is not true, FSD when first released was horrendous compare to now. It is not what Musk promised but it improved a lot since then.
The feedback should be done in the car at the moment it occurs. Posting to Reddit isn't useful for Tesla.
Yep, you haven't been around long. Elon also said a zero intervention autonomous drive across the US would happen in 2018. Where are we on that? Yeah, the same place we were in 2018. No where. You can clutch your pearls that people aren't buying his bullshit any longer.
I’ve been an owner since 2018. I think I’ve been around long enough. I guarantee I am closer to Tesla than you are. Let’s see what happens in June.
So when unsupervised FSD robotaxis aren't driving around Austin in June, you will come back and admit you are still a rube for believing this nonsense?
Well not with that kind of attitude!
Will sure run their accident-free miles metric up for a positive spin
Sssh, they’re sensitive about that here. It is Full Self Driving, which happens to be the brand name of Tesla’s driver assistance product. Eloon doesn’t have the gall to accept responsibility for any accidents while using FSD because he knows it’s not what the name claims.
True, but I put around 100 - 120 minutes/day of intervention-free commuting from an exurb into a suburb in mixed traffic situations. I'm one of the ones skewing the data.
>this "feat" is not remotely impressive Who else is doing this unimpressive thing?
I put around 100 - 120 minutes/day of intervention-free commuting from an exurb into a suburb in mixed traffic situations. Therefore, I have to disagree.
Reply back here when you get unsupervised FSD. I won't hold my breathe.
If I'm not intervening and I'm sitting there passively, what difference does it make other than my own annoyance, which is not a concern of yours? You were an early owner of a Model 3 in, what, 2018? Can you think of any other AI-based technology that hasn't grown leaps and bounds in the last two years?
You are the person who replied to me saying you disagreed on my statement about unsupervised FSD. You don't get to redefine what that means. You realize that tesla FSD has absolute jackshit to do with LLMs which is where almost all the AI boom has been the past two years. Again, just mock me when unsupervised FSD comes this year to your car. I will gladly admit you were right and I was wrong. But we both know that shit ain't happening, you are just living in a bubble.
And as everyone knows, Reddit has a strong policy around every comment being useful. Thank you for enforcing.
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