Tesla removed from Vancouver Auto Show

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The crowd at r/worldnews is making this out to be a massive blow to Tesla, but I thought they didn't spend money on auto shows. Is that still the case?

It’s really not a big deal at all, a lot of the automakers aren’t even going to the auto shows anymore. I went to the one in Chicago and it was the worst I’ve seen it in a long time

It is so fun watching so many grown people act like complete children.

How sad 😔 I loved auto shows

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If you double tap it, doesn’t it upvote and then take it away?

My interpretation of auto shows has always been more about getting people who own dealerships to get a look at cars that they might want to get on their sales lots, and Tesla doesn't really conform to that, it's basically just a pop up store for them, since they can do sales on the spot. Frankly, an article about Tesla *not* being at the show is more likely to get them better publicity than if they were attending the show. Yeah, the reasoning is steep in *understandable* politics and such, but not broadcasting stuff like this tends to do better at hitting back on something than broadcasting it does. It's a bit like having a bad Uber ride and then writing an article about it. People are going to be curious about whether or not the Uber ride was *that* bad, resulting in more people riding in Ubers, and more articles being written about it. I see this as a non-issue.

When you are the best, hate is what you get. No alpha lion or gorilla or elephant seal attacks the smaller, weaker inferior members of their society. If you stop listening to the narrator, you will see that only the small and the weak attack the alpha. This is true across the natural world. If you look with your eyes, instead of what someone else is telling you—It goes with the territory.

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It's risky. Everyone might also assume it's targeted at them and down vote. We'll see how it plays out.

What if I'm a pessimist who always assumes everyone disagrees with me?

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It has nothing to do with Tesla's quality or market performance. It's all about politics now, unfortunately.

Deep, deep cringe 😞

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Actions have consequences.

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Exactly. Elect a clown, expect a circus! 🤷🏻‍♀️

Sad.

It's almost like actions have consequences. When your management is so intertwined with the perception of the brand, their actions can have serious repercussions.

I'm pretty sure that sub is fueled by bots also including fake upvotes and awards to appeal to the masses

They were at the Toronto show last month, so they do go to car shows. But they don't spend big money on displays or shiny things, it is basically the cars and a few employees answering questions. And there was no sign of protest, the cars were always full of people checking them out and the test drive line for the cybertruck was always long the day I was there (mid week). And yes some other manufacturers were not there like Honda, VW and Mazda. I was curious to see the VW ID. Buzz so that was disappointing.

You can try to downplay this if you'd like but they attended with a pretty big stall last year. So "thy didn't spend money on Auto shows" is already incorrect. No they were kicked off and yes that's a pretty big deal. Shit like this doesn't happen.

Yes they decide to not go. They don't get kicked out.

I live near one of the busiest malls in all of America and Tesla displays were all removed. The Tesla show cases were located in the center so they likely paid big bucks to display their cars including the cyber truck.

I can't believe you typed this out for the public to see lol.

If you’re looking into an EV you’re going to discover Tesla pretty quickly. They don’t need marketing.

It is. Pics and AdviceAnimals is too.

They had a fairly large area at the Toronto auto show.

Vancouver auto show is ran by the auto dealership association. They’d be the first to block direct sales Tesla for “safety”

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The truth hurts. That’s why everyone is loving a lie. Anyone who doesn’t know this, is just doing what they are told. In real life, the little weak bulls (which is where the term “bullies” came from) are the ones attacking and killing anything. If you’re an OG gang banger, you get shot by a group of tiny 13 year olds.

Dude you weren't able to make a complete thought... Based on your post history I bet your algorithm is fun haha.

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which part

All you have to do is look at the number of subscribers to those subs, then the number of people online at any given time. Its always <0.01%. Botville.

???

It's pretty crazy that we have rage fueling AI bots mentally inducing the physical reaction from real people all the way up to throwing fire bombs and ruining their own lives while risking other people's lives.

oh no....... anyways life goes on

surely these comments won't be unhinged ...

Hyundai/kia didn't attend last yr. If you wanted to see EVs it was tesla, rivian, polestar and a locked up rally mache e. Slim pickings for such an EV rich city.

People dont buy tesla cus they want an ev they buy cuz its a good car. I never cared whatsoever for climate or ev. Just wanted the best car under $30k, faster than most expensive $100k cars and cheaper than a Camry

But that’s only feasible for those that are in the area of that auto show. 99% of people around the world won’t be anywhere near it.

The less people buy tesla the more I appreciate my MYP as it will be even rarer

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Virtue signalling weirdos everywhere on this platform, I barely go on Reddit anymore.

Not sure why you’re trying to downplay whether a car is an EV or ICE is not a factor in car buying. Some people may not have the ability to self charge at home. They may not be in an area with a good charging infrastructure. They may put a lot of miles per day and don’t want to be inconvenienced by waiting for the car to charge.

Me too, there's so much hate.

So what will people see without Tesla?

Other automakers’ cars?

What didn’t you like about the Buzz? I saw one in person last week and really wanted to check out the inside.

I'm sure there was no political motive /s

Canada doesn’t deserve Tesla

Is this really that big of a blow? How many here have ever bought a car based on what was shown at an auto show? This has "There I did something and now I feel better" vibes.

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The “being removed from an auto show for political reasons” part

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No Chinese EV smh.

Yeah it’s bad for one’s mental health

Vancouver Canada has so many Teslas that I doubt this will have any substantial quantifiable impact on the sales of Tesla.

Gotta be a North America thing. We gotta let them in, even at maybe some ridiculous 50-100% tariff, because at this rate the NA market automakers aren't really competing in the EV space. Only Tesla, Rivian, and Lucid are actually meaningfully innovating.

It is never free market haha. Ps. Low key polestar is Chinese EV with EU appearance.

I was just in Mexico and saw a BYD dealership. So at least not all of North America is closed to them.

When in that area of Canada (between Kelowna and Vancouver) I see more Tesla vehicles than any other vehicle by a LOT. More than F150's or anything else. I don't think the VAS is relevant these days.

They have a 100% tariff now, but none of them were here before that either. It isn't as simple as shipping the cars here they'd have to support repairs/service somehow.

I'd sell my '20 Model 3 AWD in a heartbeat for a SU7 Ultra if it were allowed into Canada and had customer support.

They can already come at a 27.5% tariff they choose not to. Volvo sells EVs that are made in China stateside.

Oh yeah, forgot about the EX30. I guess with that tariff in mind it makes little economic sense for emerging/new Chinese automakers to try to break into the US market at the moment. It probably eats into the margin so much that they can't price it competitively without losing money, and making them in the US may not be possible/cost effective right now.

Haven't you seen 2nd hand prices? They're dropping too. Frankly I'd sell my LR in a heartbeat if I could afford to take the hit, but I bought it with a view to 10 years so just 7ish more to go. Even when I bought it I was starting to look seriously for alternatives. If I'd held out (had a Model 3) and bought say an Volvo EX30, I'd have lost an extra 10k on the Model 3, so I count myself lucky.

BYDs are kinda shit tbh people say they’re gonna take over the American market and push Tesla out etc but I highly doubt it given the fact Tesla is a pretty sizable share of the EV market IN CHINA

Attitude reflects leadership.

The sad part is that people seem to think that "political reasons" are not valid, which is how we end up with people so ignorant about the claims of politicians (or should I say the claims of oligarchs now) vs the reality.

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Why was there an infomercial on the White House lawn for a company that doesn't need marketing?

Average Reddit moment. It was even worse on the r/interestingasfuck post about the Tesla fires.

It’s for the safety reasons. Too many left lunatic terrorists in Vancouver.

Turns out when you give in to terrorists, people don't like that When terrorism starts to win, that is a huge problem

When you give in to organized terrorists that coordinate attacks on innocent people, it's not going to go over well All their socials were basically shut down because thousands of those innocent people made themselves heard. Good for them, bad for the cowards. Cowards who cave in to violent intimidation never win

Extremely biased sub that permabans extremely quickly and broadly in order to form a one sided narrative

God forbid Canadians don’t like the car company that financed the guy who is now continually threatening Canadian sovereignty. Canada should remove the tariffs on Chinese cars that artificially stop competition. No point aligning with American protectionism.

Separate the car company brand from the hypeman’s ego. Tesla brand has been word of mouth marketing. They don’t need to do the marketing themselves.

There are other EVs. Tesla is a tainted brand

Model Y is the #2 selling car in China, soon to be the #1. So... that idea would basically fucking do nothing. But why would I expect someone a Tesla page to actually understand int'l Tesla sales??

Well done, Canadians!

What happens when oligarchs win, you can see in RuSSia.

I love auto shows 25 years ago when they actually did concept cars. I haven’t been to one in years because I don’t see the point anymore.

Repair centers would exist if they were sold here, it’s not the limiting factor. The limiting factor is the tariffs price out the cars from almost all consumers

Up until 6ish months ago the tariff on Chinese vehicles in Canada was 10% (i think). We frequently received Chinese teslas prior. If Chinese companies wanted to sell here it wasn't the tariff stopping them (it is now).

Year 2000 concept cars? Lmao ok, I went to the Vancouver auto shows with my dad from 2005-2008ish and they were awesome, tons of cars from every single automaker and tons of free shit. Post financial crisis and the auto shows dramatically reduced in scope.

That exact reason is why they aren't in the US and Canada, unfortunately.

Good point. Most people on Reddit are 13 years old.

Sadly, “alpha” means the opposite of what you believe, using my definition. Using my definition, the violent aggressor is NEVER alpha. If you simply observe—and resist cutting and pasting someone else’s beliefs into your mind—it’s obvious that this is true.

I literally sat in an IONIQ 5 N at the show last year. I don’t recall the full scope from the brands, but that car was certainly there.

Hyundai def wasn't there on the floor. Maybe they had one in the little test drive area?

wait wait. which intimidation? I bet you don't mean the threatening of the sovereignty of a neighboring county by the leader of another.

. You can see the floor plan at the bottom. I did forget lol vinfast was there. [2024 van autoshow](https://canadianautodealer.ca/2024/03/vancouver-auto-show-elevates-to-new-heights/)

It wasn't the first time an auto company had a infomercial on the white house lawn, and it won't be the last.

What is the Vancouver auto show?

Perhaps little well known but Vancouver has a Vinfast dealer.

I mean it was a year ago. I don’t think we can expect everyone to remember the fine details from that far back.

I’m sure the news included all this important context in their stories!

Removed because crazy people will try to blow them up. Lol.

\> I never cared whatsoever for climate or ev Must be nice to live in denial.

I actually feel this. NAIAS in 2008-2010 was very different from even 2019-2020 pre covid

Car was purchased because i loved driving the model 3. I hadnt really explored it like “i want an electric car so lets search by electric” it was after driving a model 3 i fell in love with

You guys HAVE to stop using “virtue signaling” whenever anyone does or says something you don’t like. People actually believe things, and might do wrong in pursuit of such beliefs. You can disagree and say what they’re doing is wrong, but to drill “they’re virtue signaling! They don’t actually believe the things they say!!” into your brain, is like, wild mental manipulation. I see it every time anyone does ANYTHING. Pronouns in bio? VIRTUE SIGNALING! Accept that people behave and believe differently than you.

Isn’t BYD expected to beat them?

I finally understand what "virtue signaling" means. It's what republicans use to describe when non-republicans withhold their money from companies they find politically repugnant..

no

Pretty sure it’s the combination of not meeting N/A safety standards n Tesla heavily lobbying the governments to not allow Chinese (branded) EVs in. Tesla knows Chinese EVs have better pricing n better performance, just not safety. Ppl will flock to buying Chinese EV instead of Teslas.

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I’m led to believe that this event in particular is largely put on by dealerships who probably didn’t want Tesla to be there in the first place

People love to be part of the hate club and to win internet points, without believing anything they’re saying or doing any research themselves. Definition of circle jerking and virtue signalling.

I do my own research, and come to my own conclusions. I don’t just bandwagon hate to get internet points or to please people IRL. This is virtue signalling.

There you go virtue signaling again. (You see the issue with just accusing random people of being inauthentic? You know how many people I see parrot your exact talking points? At what point are you the uniformed “I could never possibly be wrong!” person, repeating the same argument over and over again)

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Bah. You got me!

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BYDs are great. Better build quality than Tesla. And a lot cheaper. They are everywhere is Australia.

Lol... [Joe Biden Takes Hybrid Jeep For a Joyride at White House](https://people.com/politics/joe-biden-takes-hybrid-jeep-for-a-joyride-at-white-house-not-a-bad-day-on-the-job/) but even if you want to dismiss that one..... In 2011, President Obama held a press event on 'advanced vehicle technologies" where GM showed off the Volt for a second time at the white house, Ford showed off an electric version of the Ford Focus. Less than a year earlier, Obama hosted a press event on the recovery of the American automotive industry after they got wrecked during the global financial crisis. Ford showcased the electric transit van, and GM showed the volt for the first time In 2007, Bush Jr held a press event for GM and Ford where they showed off alternative energy vehicles. Ford showed a plug-in hybrid with a hydrogen fuel cell, GM showed off a hydrogen fuel cell SUV In 92, Ford took a new 92 Taurus SHO to the white house on a press event to "celebrate American manufacturing." In 85, Chrystler gave Reagan a LeBaron GT and delivered it to him at the White Hous—a ceremonial event. Reagan then gave a speech about how awesome Chrysler was and how they recovered from the government bailout they receivedn in 79. In 1979, Carter held a press event to discuss EV investments, at which GM showed off an electric prototype of a Chevette which was a lolololol ev car in and of itself with unprecedented 50 miles range going no more than 30 mph with a tail wind, and topped out at a speedy 53 miles an hour which at the time could have kept up with traffic on the freeway for about 15 miles.... In 1961, Ford gave Jackie Kennedy a Ford Falcon at a white house press event, only to have the car packed up and shipped to the Hyannis Port estate. There are a lot more examples if we really wanted to get into it.

Also from what I understand they aren’t designed for North American safety specs. Adding the missing things would not make them considerably cheaper than any other EV and as I understand in Europe they’re similarly priced in many cases

You got wrecked.

Nice work. These people are braindead.

Idk I'm a really detail oriented person and like to do my research and Tesla was far and away the best option for an EV in the US. Now that I've owned it for about a year even with all the protests and politics as a straight up vehicle I couldn't imagine having another EV unless it was a straight commute and charge at home vehicle. Superchargers and supercharging planning, frequent updates and a smooth interface, really cheap premium connectivity and most importantly FSD with a really nice "free" auto steer option. Last of all it's honestly a really affordable car but I got mine with a 0% apr promo. Idk I'm clearly biased but I don't see how someone gives up on all that from a purely practical perspective. Certainly can understand politics playing a role though.

They should have allowed them to attend just to waste their money and make them a laughing stock with nobody showing up at their displaying booth.

You’ve obviously never been in one. They’re not even better than a Toyota Corolla, clearly you’re only in this sub to hate

I'm not sure what you're implying with this, because here in r/teslamotors there's [0.0025%](https://i.imgur.com/oqYbG9Z.png) online right now.

I'm curious who do you think would be owning these bots? Tesla's competition?

I’ve got a BYD ATTO3. Great car. Not out to hate Tesla, I just like my BYD.

Probably some bored dudes wrote a script with AI to control Browser Use. A bunch of browser instances with VPN extensions randomising the IP addresses wouldn’t be hard. But surely reddit checks how old the accounts are and  if they have a normal activity history.

And 80kW "fast" charging, which goes even below that in cold temperatures.

Your sub is pathetic man.

u/jwrig absolutely wrecked you.

Remember that thought when your fellow "protestors" start going to jail. Actions have consequences.

It must be exhausting to view your entire life through this lens.

What booth was it at? Because I don't see Hyundai on the map: https://canadianautodealer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/booths-1000x600.jpg

Well that's a very bold claim, without any backing.

Unfortunately I believe they were removed.

My wife and I each have a Model 3, and environmental concerns aren't in the top 5 reasons of why we bought the first one, let alone the second one.

Im sorry, but you believe doing research and actually studying both sides, facts vs fiction, and coming to your own conclusion based on that is the equivalent of hearing what your friends, family, and Reddit is saying and believe + go along with it? It’s called using your brain. There’s more fact than guess work to most things if you dig deep enough and have above 30 IQ

Are you sure? I feel it is more due to countries put super high tariffs to avoid fair competitions

I invest in both. BYD will beat a LOT of companies but not Tesla. no chance really. BYD makes its money from hybrids still, not BEVs. They will probably start to make a profit from BEVs this year. And even then, Tesla makes 5x more profit per unit as of now. BYD is positioned to destroy EOMs like Ford, GM, Stellantis... Tesla and BYD are going to chew through market share like a 2 company wrecking team.

What about the BMW and Audi? Were they there?

Hold that L

As pathetic as that stock price, yea? Reddit isn't the entire world, it's a small piece of how the entirety of the world feels about Tesla. Go whine elsewhere is that makes you sad.

You're delusional if you think Reddit represents the world. If it did, then Harris would have won the election with 500 electoral votes. And now you got a Reddit front page making it look like the world turned against Teslas, meanwhile in real life guys are leaving their Cybertrucks in the middle of leftist city centres and getting nothing but positive responses from passers by. Anyhow, the stock never dropped below its July 2024 price and is on its way back up again. I suggest you get off reddit and see what's actually happening outside every now and then.

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Very strange case of Tesla Derangement Syndrome. Hopefully a real auto show is created free from politics and adult children

LOL what is the fun in that?

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Honestly I don’t recall exactly where it was on the show floor, but it was certainly a cool car in my opinion.

Maybe they should go out of business

Because that has not lead to millions of deaths in the past....... But yes let's worry about a few idiots vandalising cars. That's the REAL problem.

no idea what you're on about. it's the leader of one country saying "it'd be easier if you were just part of our country" to its neighbor.

As long ago as 2016 I can tell you they spent a lot of money exhibiting at Goodwood.

The Goodwood Festival of Speed held in  West Sussex ? I'm interested in what happened in Vancouver, 2024. What's "a lot of money" anyway?

>“The Vancouver International Auto Show has removed Tesla as a participant in this week’s event, after the automaker was provided multiple opportunities to voluntarily withdraw,” said Eric Nicholl, the show’s executive director, in a statement.

BYD will get Tesla eventually. Tesla's battery and drivetrain tech has stagnated since 2020, while BYD has improved by leaps and bounds. In the time Tesla took to refresh the Model 3, and Y and deliver the Cybertruck, BYD has released 12 new models.

I read the article, but it doesn't say anything about last year, nor if they paid for a small booth, a large stand, were showing a unique vehicle at no charge, or if it was third parties (eg aftermarket suppliers or supporter clubs) participating. I'd like to hear from someone who actually attended these events in recent years.

A lot of people are inauthentic. People who are screaming doom about the company don’t even know that Elon isn’t the chairman of Tesla. How am I suppose to listen to people who just like to scream hate all day.

Let’s punish the one guy who has probably done more single-handedly to lower the carbon footprint of the transportation sector than ANY man alive. Yeah… that’s the person we should go after. So much for Climate Change being an existential crisis. One step forward, two steps back.

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You thought they didn’t spend money on auto shows, I’m telling you they did.

Wait, so Canada has 100% tariff on Chinese cars but when USA says they will put tariffs on Chinese cars people lose their minds?

We put them on same time as you guys as a united front.

I had to unfollow all the r/ “politically neutral interest or topic but somehow all that’s posted is political content that barely has anything to do with the original purpose of the subreddit” subreddits a while back. People get to be unhinged and then gaslight you for wanting to see Cats on Pizza boxes on the “Cats on Pizza boxes” sub.

Yet the auto show promotes on X

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This removal will only encourage anti-Tesla terrorism

Billionaire doesn't want competition for his janky cars.

It's part of the "illegal boycott" as Musk likes to call it.

Virtue signalling doesn't mean "they don't believe the things they say". It means that people profess their beliefs publicly to demonstrate they are on the moral side of the issue to get approval from others, with no need for that statement to be made, often without an accompanying action that would put themselves at any risk for those beliefs.

Are you the one going around wanted 100% tax on the rich?

Pretty sure the concept of terrorism applies against people, not a company

I say this applies to real life but not social media. People on the internet generally follow whatever the current trend is, whether they believe/like it or not. Of course there’s plenty that *are* being honest, but imo the majority aren’t. And even if they are, posts, videos, comments, etc will never represent a sizable portion of the population. Which is why it’s better to just ignore it. What others may or not believe isn’t my problem, I’m living my life regardless.

It’s kind of the same for me. I love EVs but that isn’t what drew me to Tesla, their tech and safety features did. If everything feature wise about the Model 3 was the same, but it was an ICE or hybrid, I’d still buy one without a second thought.

Owners of Teslas are people, albeit I think the threat is way lower than some are making it out to be.

Well, so far it's the stores that are getting hit hard. Tesla's drivers have had their cars keyed and coal-rolled for years now, without anyone calling that terrorism.

Fair, hey at least you are not emitting CO2. It would be kinda hard to get this kinda tech in a combustion car.

Porsche was there, so we got to see actual cars. Nobody wants to see an iPad on wheels made by tech bros who have no idea how to tune a chassis.