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B.C. excludes Tesla from CleanBC rebates, despite allowing other U.S. brands

chrisdh79 | 2025-03-14 09:47 | 822 views

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chrisdh79 2025-03-14 10:59

From the article: British Columbia has announced that Tesla’s products—including its Powerwall home battery, inverters, and electric vehicle (EV) chargers—will no longer be eligible for rebates under the CleanBC and BC Hydro programs. The province claims this move is part of an effort to support Canadian-made products and reduce reliance on American imports. However, the revised list of eligible products still includes American-made brands, raising questions about the policy’s consistency and the true motivation behind Tesla’s exclusion. According to an update posted to the BC Hydro website, the exclusion of Tesla is meant to “preference Canadian goods” and “exclude, where practicable, U.S.-produced goods.” But a quick look at the updated list of eligible products reveals that almost all of the alternatives that remain eligible for rebates are U.S.-based. In fact, of the companies still listed as eligible, only four are Canadian (FLO, Grizzl-E, Hypercharge, Sun Country Highway), while a whopping 73, or 94.8% of the companies on the list, are from the U.S., according to a review by Grok. **“The Government of B.C. and BC Hydro are taking action to preference Canadian goods in our rebate programs going forward and to exclude, where practicable, U.S. produced goods. As of March 12, 2025, Tesla products (electric vehicle chargers, energy storage batteries and inverters) are not eligible for CleanBC and BC Hydro rebates.”** We have reached out to BC Hydro for clarification on why Tesla appears to be the only U.S. company excluded under these new rules, but have not received a reply by the time of publication. We will update this article when we receive a reply.

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Flipslips 2025-03-14 13:48

That’s illegal if true. That’s considered discrimination and will be a slam dunk lawsuit. You cannot discriminate a single company like that.

isdbull 2025-03-14 13:50

Nature, "sustainable", "climate" and so on is only relevant when it fits their agenda.

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Empty_Bread8906 2025-03-14 13:55

More money for the lawyers

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Ljhughes8 2025-03-14 14:04

He said he didn't want the credit . most people buy on price . If he lowered the price hm Tesla would be the only company making money.

feurie 2025-03-14 14:18

Things like the IRA in the US didn't necessarily have to do with the climate. They were about bring manufacturing of the next generation of technology back to domestic manufacturers which everyone should agree with. But the right likes oil. The problem here is that it's not about climate and it isn't about Canadian domestic manufacturing because they're allowing everyone except one company. So they should be up front about it.

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atomicskiracer 2025-03-14 14:42

Do you not understand the trade war, or are you willingly ignoring it because it doesn’t fit your narrative?

Flipslips 2025-03-14 15:16

Not true. The government is NOT allowed to discriminate against specific companies. For this to be legal, they would need to eliminate ALL American companies in this segment, not just Tesla. It is illegal, and if it actually goes into effect Tesla will sue. Maybe if they change the wording they can get it implemented, like if they say Tesla is a national security threat. (Obviously it’s not, and that wouldn’t hold up because they need evidence, but just a hypothetical)

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PrarieCoastal 2025-03-14 15:33

They can do whatever they want. Just like Musk can go in and decimate a work force.

yanman 2025-03-14 15:36

This isn't a trade war. It's a war against Tesla. If you read the article you'd know that 94.8% of the companies that remain on the list are US based.

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isdbull 2025-03-14 16:04

Yes, a war against Tesla and common sense.

toomuchtodotoday 2025-03-14 16:09

They learn eventually. "It's not fair" is not enshrined in legal doctrine.

light_hue_1 2025-03-14 16:15

Yes, it can. What do you know about Canadian law? Of course the Canadian government can have a preference for Canadian companies. It does so all the time. The US does it too! Through the Buy American Act. Biden used that act against Canadian companies when he was in charge. If we don't want people to discriminate against our companies, we shouldn't start trade wars with them.

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throwawayrefiguy 2025-03-14 16:44

Good.

Ecureuil02 2025-03-14 16:46

If you're from the States, this argument is even more ridiculous.

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GeniusEE 2025-03-14 16:49

Because the cars are made in China.

tenemu 2025-03-14 17:09

Did you miss what he said? He said you cant pick one American company, you need to say all of them.

Matos3001 2025-03-14 17:10

Did you forget to read the post?

VIPTicketToHell 2025-03-14 17:16

None of those cars are sold in Canada since the China EV tariffs went in.

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ReticlyPoetic 2025-03-14 17:43

Elbows up!

ReticlyPoetic 2025-03-14 17:44

If they discriminate against all American made EVs is it still illegal?

GeniusEE 2025-03-14 17:48

missed that news - thanks

light_hue_1 2025-03-14 17:49

I'm just amazed by how little you understand how your own government works. The US government literally picks between US and foreign companies all the time based on many things. Including the percentage of their products made in the US. They can decline to buy from a US company because too little of a product is made in the US, and buy form a foreign company because they source from the US. Along with vague things like "national security" which can be invoked without any reasoning to pick between any suppliers. The US does this all the time, picking between US companies, between foreign companies, between both. Yes, Canada can do and does exactly what the US government does. Picks who it wants to work with, doesn't matter if it's a US or Canadian or whatever company. If we don't want to be discriminated against, we shouldn't have started a trade war. No, suing the BC government for this won't work. For exactly the same reason as suing the US Federal government for discriminating against BMW won't work.

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What?

mocoyne 2025-03-14 17:54

What’s the authority for this?

mocoyne 2025-03-14 17:54

Under what authority?

skippyalpha 2025-03-14 18:12

No, they can discriminate against all of them if they want, just not a single one

DeepstateDilettante 2025-03-14 18:41

Ok what’s the Canadian law? And btw even if that were true you can make exclusions within the law that are so specific that, in practice, only one company’s products are affected. For example you just need to find some characteristic or combination of characteristics that are unique to Tesla vehicles and then say “vehicles with these characteristics are ineligible”. It would presumably violate USMCA trade agreement, but apparently that doesn’t matter since USA violated it first.

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flyryan 2025-03-14 21:08

Can you point me to the Canadian law that says that?

flyryan 2025-03-14 21:08

Can you point me to the Canadian law that says that?

midnighttyph00n 2025-03-14 21:30

point him to the Canadian law that says that

Present-Ad-9598 2025-03-14 21:31

Doesn’t this just hurt the customers

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GoldenHolden01 2025-03-14 22:10

Well yes, the idea is to disincentivize buying teslas.

yanman 2025-03-14 22:11

And as shown by the down-votes on my comment, a war against reading comprehension, lol.

Fearful-Cow 2025-03-14 22:14

lol you cant discriminate against a protected class (sexual orientation, race, religion, etc), you can discriminate against companies all you want.

PointyPointBanana 2025-03-14 22:31

Would make sense. Same as the booze, they originally just picked red states and now it's all. Eby needs to start thinking before acting.

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They did it and not stopping… I guess when orange boy decided no agreements mattered this is what you get

ShustOne 2025-03-14 22:42

I keep seeing this comment but I'm having trouble finding a Canadian law making it true

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GameRoom 2025-03-14 22:55

What Canadian law disallows this? Laws that target single companies exist all the time. Like, this is a government. They literally decide what the law is.

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Watrbayby 2025-03-15 03:52

I needed a good laugh today, and just before bed. 6 word response said it all.

thepatinaarena 2025-03-15 04:44

Best news I've heard all day

Significant-Meal2211 2025-03-15 06:17

Great news

Significant-Meal2211 2025-03-15 06:17

Of course why support Tesla

BufloSolja 2025-03-15 09:43

There was a bit different casus belli back then compared to now.

_casshern_ 2025-03-15 09:57

But there's no Canadian EVs!

_casshern_ 2025-03-15 10:06

Yeah, there's a trade war. But there's also no Canadian EV companies!

ne999 2025-03-15 11:00

It’s the chargers and batteries.

Ok-Following-8071 2025-03-15 13:14

"... you need to say..." Okay. Strong statement. Based on your familiarity with which law?

Ok-Following-8071 2025-03-15 13:17

They were targeting alcohol from red states. (the Canadians were)

Ok-Following-8071 2025-03-15 13:20

Why? Your "should" is feels-based and only has weight for you, personally.

MikeNotBrick 2025-03-15 14:23

Why?

SpirtualSherbert481 2025-03-15 15:06

They are being lil bitches

XxjptxX7 2025-03-15 16:22

Theirs lots of non American EV companies.

PM_me_Tricams 2025-03-15 16:22

Shhhh we are winning the trade war my guy

tenemu 2025-03-15 16:27

Here is a case law example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roncarelli_v_Duplessis

tenemu 2025-03-15 16:28

Here is a case law example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roncarelli_v_Duplessis

nevetsyad 2025-03-15 17:06

No, he said all credits should go away, oil, gas, EVs, for everyone.

Present-Ad-9598 2025-03-15 18:28

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Unless you are eliminating 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs, then this is petty, and stupid.

JockoJohnson61 2025-03-15 20:54

Canada will be slaughtered in this trade war, sad to say. It will look like the Russia/Ukraine debacle- except no one is sending Canada $190 Billion. I hope they surrender before it’s too late

skyysdalmt 2025-03-15 21:04

"Laws" are only relevant when it fits Trumps agenda.

skyysdalmt 2025-03-15 21:05

"Petty and stupid" is the American theme right now. So why not go with it?

10Bens 2025-03-15 22:18

"Surrender?"

aaayyyuuussshhh 2025-03-15 22:36

It's not where the brand is from but rather where they things are produced is my guess. Other companies may be american but they produce/manufacture the goods in canada and mexico for example

PM_me_Tricams 2025-03-15 23:57

It was /s

AssitDirectorKersh 2025-03-16 00:24

We’re lucky to have such experts on the intricacies of Canadian trade law here.

Tookmyprawns 2025-03-16 02:33

Much like tariffs.

Chaemyerelis 2025-03-16 03:09

Lol

RingingInTheRain 2025-03-16 05:33

How does this promote Canadian-based products when the products themselves don't change? Does this make the other EVs faster or have extended range? What does this do??

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darthnithithesith 2025-03-16 06:21

as some ev subsidies were sunsetting all of a sudden a couple dealerships were doing THOUSANDS of “sales” every day even during the night.

Present-Ad-9598 2025-03-16 07:19

What

COL_D 2025-03-16 07:36

In the end, it’s the citizen’s that pay the price.

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So?

Upset_Exit_7851 2025-03-16 16:12

And solar

Particular_Quiet_435 2025-03-16 16:24

Yep. Tons of American cars have parts made in Canada. Detroit is a border town.

Mustard-Tiger 2025-03-16 16:35

It sends a message.

RingingInTheRain 2025-03-16 16:38

"Don't buy good quality products or we'll make it more expensive for you" is not a good message.

aaayyyuuussshhh 2025-03-16 17:29

I don't know the brands in questions but I assume that's what they meant. Tesla does not have factories in Canada so they 100% would get tariffs from somewhere at least

sm753 2025-03-16 20:49

Goes to show that all their "environmentalism" is really all just political and performative.

Apprehensive_888 2025-03-17 00:02

You absolutely can. Look what the US did with Huawei.

FutureAZA 2025-03-17 02:01

This is about home charging.

FutureAZA 2025-03-17 02:02

No, they were pushing through weeks of paperwork that had been sitting around. Every sale has to be validated prior to the credit being issued. Claiming fraud is absurd and paints us in an unfavorable light. Let's wait for proof before believing wild conspiracy theories.

Ljhughes8 2025-03-17 06:17

He said both

Advanced-Average7822 2025-03-17 12:22

because the more money Tesla makes, the greater danger to my family.

nevetsyad 2025-03-17 12:35

The way you put it makes it sound like he's against EVs, but fine with other abuse of tax dollars. Wanting all to go away is an important framing of EV credit, and all subsidies, going away.

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No0ther0ne 2025-03-17 15:33

Interesting. Not surprised with their actions based on politics over the last decade or so. Curious which human acts law are they saying he broke and how he broke it? Not that it really matters, he could have just said they are doing it because they just don't like him.

No0ther0ne 2025-03-17 15:36

This seems a bit much, but not too surprised. Can't even say I blame them necessarily, even though I completely disagree with the principal, I can understand the sentiment.

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Thats...100% not true.

VideoGameJumanji 2025-03-18 07:50

This isnt a good thing

internet_thugg 2025-03-18 12:04

Wahhhhhhhhhhhh

Noobuss_ 2025-03-18 15:47

Yes it is, long live the TSLA slump

DownwardFacingBear 2025-03-18 15:55

That case is completely different. The government can absolutely decide which brands are eligible for a tax incentive, for whatever reason they want. That case was about revoking a liquor license for a specific individual. That would be more akin to BC deciding that Teslas could no longer be sold in BC, and even then, that would also be legal if they passed a law with specific guidelines that applied to Tesla. For example, they could pass a law requiring all vehicles to have a speedometer in front of the driver.

ergzay 2025-03-18 21:30

I assume Tesla will sue British Columbia over this. You can't have rules for thee but not for me situations.

ergzay 2025-03-18 21:31

Except there isn't a law about this. They just decreed it. The government has to follow its own laws.

ergzay 2025-03-18 21:32

That's pretty hilarious. I guess a lawsuit is needed to correct their ways.

ergzay 2025-03-18 21:33

That's pretty hilarious. I guess a lawsuit is needed to correct their ways.

GameRoom 2025-03-19 00:46

And what exactly is the law that forbids doing this?

ergzay 2025-03-19 03:01

Ask a Canadian. I don't know Canadian law. But it would be illegal in the US and Canada generally has pretty similar laws to the US.

katui 2025-03-19 06:36

It's more "We won't spend your tax dollars subsidizing the people threating to invade us".

ReticlyPoetic 2025-03-19 06:56

Yeah it isn't good that the Art of the Deal guys is picking on a country 1/10th his size, its almost like he isnt good at the deals.. Its is giving real little D/hands energy. Not good! Now if the "Art of the deal" guy stood up to a bigger country he might get some respect from me and mine. Renegotiate with China or Stop sucking Putins left one and stand up for freedom around the world. Definitely not good..

VideoGameJumanji 2025-03-19 07:54

chill man, idk why you even brought that up

Pacific-Veteran28 2025-03-19 09:47

So i can only guess that the Eby NDP here in BC is some type of recipient from USAID to make this decision. Huh a bunch of ethically challenged politicians try to dip their toes in American politics. By the way Tesla's are made in California

RingingInTheRain 2025-03-19 12:02

Tesla Engineers are going to roll up with the pitch forks in Canada I see lol.

xtoro101 2025-03-19 15:35

Government just trying to make it look they are doing something but in reality they are not..

ImaginationNo1928 2025-03-20 06:20

:))))

ImaginationNo1928 2025-03-20 06:26

There are other American EVs, German EVs, and ofc Korean EVs.

ImaginationNo1928 2025-03-20 06:27

Not very bright it seems. It’s alright, enjoy the ride.

ejactionseat 2025-03-20 06:35

Adorable take.

Calm_Leopard_2050 2025-03-20 15:26

Good call.

ReticlyPoetic 2025-03-20 15:42

Elbows up MAN!

razorrome 2025-03-20 17:44

We have reached a new level of pettiness love to see it. Things will get even more petty, I’ll get my popcorn ready.

VideoGameJumanji 2025-03-20 19:49

dude relax, this is a Reddit thread

ReticlyPoetic 2025-03-20 20:24

I’m sure VW would love for historians to relax too.

Special-Permission-9 2025-03-23 04:38

Logic I see none

GreenKumara 2025-03-24 00:06

> rules for thee but not for me Conservatives love that though.

ergzay 2025-03-24 00:20

I disagree when anyone does it.

SaltyMove5798 2025-03-24 15:38

Wooohooo B.C. Win! Way to go guys :)

darthnithithesith 2025-03-29 01:47

yeah right. waiting until subsidies end to process these “sales” warrants suspicion. It’s their responsibility to submit these in a timely manner. We shouldn’t give them the benifit of the doubt because “maybe they were actually lazy instead of fraudulent”

Heavenly_Yang_Himbo 2025-03-29 12:00

Plenty of cheap Chinese ones are ready to go…BYD is salivating at the opportunity..as we further push Canada away as an ally!

_casshern_ 2025-03-29 12:25

Yes, but arguably letting Chinese EVs in either Canada or the US will be detrimental to the auto industry in both countries. Plus in terms on subsidies, I don’t see BC subsidizing the CCP! lol

Heavenly_Yang_Himbo 2025-03-29 12:27

Yes but the cars will remain cheap, because the CCP will subsidize them… Also it is kinda hard to make an argument that Chinese EV’s would be worse business than American EV’s…when the US is currently engaging in a trade war against Canada and Tesla is being investigated for fraudulent use of the Canadian EV subsidies. So is the US EV trade that much more advantageous?

_casshern_ 2025-03-29 12:43

Ford, GM, etc., have hundreds of thousands of well paid employees and many thousands retirees receiving lifetime pensions. If the government opens the floodgates to Chinese EV, will these quality jobs remain? Yes Canada might dislike the US, but most cars made in the US have parts made in Canada. The industry of both countries is intertwined. Ultimately, car buyers are subsidizing these jobs. If the governments of US and Canada didn’t want to support that industry they’d allow cheap Chinese EVs to be sold in the US/Canada. People would be able to buy a $20,000 EV, and many US/Canada jobs would be lost. Whether that’s good or bad, that’s a government decision and unlikely to change any time soon.

FutureAZA 2025-04-01 19:11

It is their responsibility, and they have. There's a time limit prescribed in the language of the law, and they have something like 30-days to do it. They've met their obligation. All parties know the seller is giving a point of sale credit, and that they're on the hook to get the paperwork submitted. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt because EVERY SINGLE CLAIM is validated prior to payment. The equation doesn't require trust when every single one is verified.

darthnithithesith 2025-04-02 19:16

well it’s been frozen so like clearly the government felt differently

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