I have a feeling that this is going to have the polar opposite effect of whatever they were hoping for. Whats the play here? Because these cars have become an unhealthy subject of politics and they’re trying to fix that by making them even more political??
So Tesla is finally advertising and this is their spokesperson? What a timeline we live in
“We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” — Albert Einstein, who obviously had no idea what he was talking about. 😉
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Plenty exist now and are even better. Look into Volvo or polestar. Or lucid
This was so incredibly pathetic.
Sorry, I should've mentioned that I'm one of the poor Tesla owners who bought a used M3.
I’m in the process of getting a rivian. I was going to wait for the R2 but likely jumping to an r1T now. The Tesla used car value is crumbling and I’m going to get out while I can.
And?? Is there something we are suppose to get excited about it?? Nobody said anything when Joe had teleprompters and scripts at every press conference he attended. He had scripted questions handed to the media and wasn’t allowed to take off the cuff questions. This is a Tesla Thread not a political thread. Move this to the appropriate area.
I’ll save you the embarrassment man. I got $12k and I’ll help relieve your burden
You mean like Ford, Chevrolet, Kia, Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagen, .... ? Or more like the newer EV only makes? Lots of electric cars out there, lots more coming.
Tell us the company is struggling without telling us.... Also trying to court the "drill, baby drill" crowd instead of the "go green" crowd is an interesting tactic
Yes, fully electric with good software. No one is coming close and matching the M3 price.
Rivian
You’d have to be a particular type of person in a particular place to allow yourself to feel embarrassment at owning a Tesla…
I can't get a Rivian for $30k
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YOU take YOUR seat https://images.app.goo.gl/zVwjfZ6nCw67L5Ln7
Ummm the two are the same now bud, where have you been? A lot of late night hooded meetings?
BYD is showing up eveywhere here in australia. its a good sign.
If you actually try them, you'll find the experience of driving them is actually hot garbage compared to similarly priced Tesla. Like it or not, right now buying non Tesla EV is like being an early adopter android user back in the early iPhone days. It will work, but the experience is way less polished.
I would absolutely go for one, but I think we have a 100% tariff on BYD cars because America is too stupid and greedy to actually compete.
They say any press is good press. Not sure if it's true in this case.
Sell it and buy a Kia or Hyundai then……
Yeah I mean I'm a Rivian shareholder but they're losing money on every vehicle and going nowhere fast. (I'd sell but the shares are worth so little it's like holding a lottery ticket at this point)
§ 2635.702 Use of public office for private gain. An employee may not use their public office for their own private gain; for the endorsement of any product, service, or enterprise (except as otherwise permitted by this part or other applicable law or regulation); or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity, including nonprofit organizations of which the employee is an officer or member, and persons with whom the employee has or seeks employment or business relations.
Same boat as you. I love my Model 3. Wanted any other option. But a fully electric SEDAN in the US? Good luck! The only one that comes close in price is the Ioniq 6. And with the deals I had and the tax credit, the Model 3 was about $10k cheaper at similar trim. And even at the same price, the Model 3 is the better car for my needs. I think there is a lot of competition where the Model Y sits. But there is pretty much none for the Model 3.
I don’t know what you paid but there are comparably cheap used EVs from other brands. Ioniq 5 and id.4 comes to mind.
Not unhealthy to me
It’s because they’re built with basically slave labor that’s how they can produce an EV for $12,000 MSRP if they made a factory stateside to avoid tariffs and had to pay what Tesla, Toyota, Honda etc pay their vehicles would come it at basically the same price as other EVs and tbh BYD’s really aren’t that nice it’s like comparing a Nissan Sentra to a BMW model 3.
The ironic part of this is that the auto manufacturers did this to themselves. They wouldn’t partner to manufacture for Tesla so they were forced to built their own infrastructure and this is the result. They are dominating EVs and it’s going to be harder to catch up.
There already is but they will never let them here. The Chinese cars are far and above anything we have here. Just like the phones.
No one n Reddit has ever been within 50 feet of a BYD but glaze them endlessly they’re $12,000 cars and the moment you get inside you understand why
Tbh I’m convinced certain YouTubers are paid by Tesla even though they claim they aren’t.
Tesla the new goya
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It’s a picture on Reddit. It has to be real!
Tesla is down to under 50% of the US market as of the 2024 H2. Globally they aren’t even in first place.
I switched from Tesla to a BMW EV. The driving experience is great. Better in someways than Tesla and worse in others but overall totally comparable.
It’s a real image from Andrew Harnik at Getty
Thankfully they at least (properly) labeled burning peoples Teslas to the ground as domestic terrorism, which it abso-fucking-lutely is
You can’t get a Tesla for $30k either.
MKBHD was, you can pinpoint the exact moment the their partnership ended by his 180 change of tone.
I feel like the insult to injury part of this is the $299/mo lease. This is not real. They should just say if you have enough deductions to offset your income you get the car for $0/mo.
How reliable is Getty as a source?
There are used Teslas going from 20-30k right now though
That’s too bad you feel that way. My Tesla is awesome. Nothing stopping you from selling it.
But it’s going to take years for competition since Tesla was early on the market.
How does a photo like this get taken? Who releases it into the wild? Seems fake for those reasons. Plus his actual hands are like a 5 year old’s. EDIT: lotta downvotes lotta fans of Trumps hands apparently
lol they said *actual* competitor
Are we still pushing this nonsense? It hasn’t been true for a long time now. https://x.com/xh_lee23/status/1893522954803388879
Why don’t you look up what China tariffs US vehicles… I’ll wait
Rivian software is at the level of Model S when it first came out. But hopefully it will be a competitor one day.
I just bought one for 32. Brand new.
And paying them carbon credits while they do it
Honestly I feel like he just started trying other vehicles and realizing Teslas shortcomings
The vPOTUS is a car salesman. Didn't have that on my bingo card.
wow. what an idiot.
Love my Tesla. Don't care about the rotating hate machine focusing on them. They'll be onto bud light or kerosene stoves, or who knows, cotton pants, next.
I saw the news today and placed a deposit for a Rivian R2. Last straw & all. I really love my Model 3 and it’s been a great 7 years, but I’m ready to be done with this company. What a fucking bummer.
He does the repugnant thing so many times and with such intensity that it becomes the norm.
I don’t have an X acct so no idea what you’re trying to show me. What part is untrue?
You know the part which defines what an employee is in this specifically exempts the president and vice president, right? Source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=b3464e805fbe7dd2347838286439bc3a&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:5:Chapter:XVI:Subchapter:B:Part:2635:Subpart:G:2635.702
This is an insane timeline. It’s having the opposite effect on me, I’m looking to get ride of my Tesla and get an Rivian.
The Genesis magma, ioniq5 N, Ioniq 6N, and EV6 GT are all better than the M3P But one has an answer for the S & X besides the lucid air and rivian R1S but their production numbers are pretty low
Very
I’m guessing it was an aid who took the president’s notes before or after the speech. Wish we had the caption.
No account is needed but you can also use nitter https://nitter.net/xh_lee23/status/1893522954803388879
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lol, i’m glad we can agree your slave labor talking point was nonsense then.
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He 100% does not operate that way. EDIT: I work in PR. Have worked with Marques for years across multiple brands. He does not take secret sponsor money and frankly he doesn’t need it.
Try to find better words to express your frustrations in the future.
Everyone can love the performance and convenience of an electric vehicle. My most conservative friends comment that they've thought about buying a Tesla having ridden in mine.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. They are hardly using any human labor in EV manufacturing. Tesla does this too, but China to an even greater degree which helps them cut costs. At the [Xiaomi factory](https://youtu.be/yezR-mH12xs) they have about 20 humans to each 400 robots. If you come in here claiming slave labor is going on, you should have some proof. That’s a really bold outrageous claim to be made without any proof. All you’re engaging in is racist sinophobic fear mongering.
I find that really hard to believe but I'm curious. Is there a place that has an unbiased take on that? Not saying you are but obviously any Chinese outlet will say the cars fly.
He kept buying the Model S riiiight before newer things were added to the lineup lol. Then he sold it for a Porsche 911, which is a very different type of car
Great press if you want your car customized for free with graffiti lol. Or, the "on fire" upgrade with lunatics throwing homemade Molotov cocktails at you.
I don’t think Tesla is all that far ahead honestly. They are ahead in software to most manufactures but on atleast the upper end the competitors aren’t that far behind and then that’ll trickle down to lower cost models. Once Tesla’s software advantage is minimal at best with worse build quality I think they’re cooked personally with how much damage has been done to the brand
Used c40 is pretty affordable Volvo
I mean, they're not perfect, but the value proposition in some of the Chinese EVs is incredible. I thought this was a decent comparison: https://youtu.be/yf98eWBboFI?si=mNHknRb9slisas_a
~~It’s AI.~~ \*Edit- Holy crap I think I'm wrong. Sorry y'all - the picture just looked too perfect and the notes on the card just too preposterous for a president to be holding. *sigh*
~~Man, we can’t get an AI image verification tool fast enough. People believing images like this in a “shoot first, ask questions later” scenario are going to be the death of society.~~ \*Edit- Holy crap I think I'm wrong. Sorry y'all - the picture just looked too perfect and the notes on the card just too preposterous for a president to be holding. *sigh*
I hope you're right... But this time feels different. It's incredibly difficult to repair brand image. Especially after your brand has become toxic to a large population.
Can you define what you mean by “better”?
The messaging on this is hilarious. Tesla is basically the pioneer of EVs that are actually desirable (the Leaf catching strays out here), and you know who has been pretty anti EV for a while. Now there are ethics being broken to benefit the Tesla brand. Truly the wildest timeline going on here.
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This is literally the same BS people were saying 5 years ago. Give FSD on HW4 a try and get back to us.
**“…the likes of which…”** *it’s gonna be a big one*
Better at getting you stranded in the middle of nowhere.
I picked the ones that I liked, thanks
Put on your tin foil hat: the terrorism for teslas and this pushing of the brand could be the way for them to get to martial law. I don’t doubt that Tesla could remotely trigger a cars battery to overheat and catch fire, all the sudden lots of teslas start burning in various “liberal” cities = mass terrorism = martial law.
The man who first said that literally ran a circus😭
Okay are you still waiting
Yeah, so is mine. That's the only thing stopping me from selling it.
I bought a used 2023 M3 for $30k.
You don’t need a twitter account to view a post lol it’s just a link.
I very much disagree that those are better.
I'll take a look, thanks
Against the CT the Silverado EV seems to be better.
What AI is this good at lettering? None, that’s what.
Protecting the American market from Chinese cars is the smartest thing they could have done, shot for consumers but Tesla won’t want actual completion, here in Australia we have a huge range this year of competitors coming that are all Model Y but different. Zeeker have a Model Y but lux, BYD have a Model Y but more trimmings, Leapmotor have a Model Y but cheap and that’s not even mentioning Geely or Xpeng that are also launching their take on the Model Y. Tesla has absolutely dominated the market here with the Model Y but is about to see some genuine amazing looking competition.
They are crappy and very expensive. My uncle has one and it felt like a downgrade
We have ads in the whitehouse now
I drove a Zeekr 7X on the weekend, my daily is a Model Y. I think the Model Y is a genuinely great car but other than autopilot, the Zeekr was more luxurious and had more interior quality of life improvements than the Model Y by a significant margin. My wife has an EQE and the interior matched that in quality and feel. the Zeekr was running Chinese software so their autopilot equivalent wasn’t activated for Australian roads so I couldn’t safely say which would be better, autopilot is pretty good so I don’t see how they could be much better, also supercharger network but that’s becoming less of an issue as they open the network up.
Can you elaborate?
Check out SD Flux… https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/s/M1cpWgkXvJ
The president should not be a car salesman. If you can't understand that and see the conflict of interest, you are part of the problem
In reality every president should always promote US made vehicles and products. This is the way.
I've used it. I would never trust it without my full supervision.
It’s also the supercharger network, though. Can’t tell you how many people I know who wanted to get into the EV world and opted for a Tesla because they felt more at ease with the ubiquity of reliable supercharger stations.
Wife and I washed our hands of ours and got a RAV4 plugin hybrid. 30+ miles on a charge is plenty for our commutes, and we’re happy with the reliability of Toyota.
Are you saying this image is AI generated?
And JerryRigs
Hardware is still ahead as well. You can make a more efficient motor but the price is not economical. Just ask Lucid.
Well that's what Tesla is claiming too. FSD is not a self-driving option and requires driver supervision at all times.
weird how they call it full self driving then...
It's easy to switch beer brands when you don't want to be associated with them, it's a lot harder to do that when you've spent $40k on a car and need to drive to work every day. Those with the funds will offload their cars if they want to move on, others won't look at TSLA when buying a new car. So much of the stock price is tied to the potential growth so unless there are shady gov contracts to make up for all the lost EU and NA sales it'll be a bloodbath when the earnings are reported.
They're there. The Ioniq is a valid alternative in the US. There's plenty of European and Chinese cars that work really well in those markets.
Kinda missing the point, they shouldn't be saying anything like that. The President shouldn't be doing a fucking commercial at the White House for a car company
I just bought my first one (used) yesterday. Hope it doesn't come across as some sort of weird political statement. I couldn't care less about that stuff. I just liked the car after a few test drives and it was affordable.
Old enough to remember when he did a Goya commercial and it made the new for like an hour and everyone moved on to the next illegal thing he did.
I've got a beachfront property in Arizona to sell you if you think there isn't a fair bit of manual rework going on on Tesla's lines, and that's probably also true for BYD's lines. You're never, ever, ever going to see a video of the janky shit that goes on inside these factories.
Extreme depreciation due to perceived quality and dependability is a thing. Also shit branding.
Uhh hate machine already went after bud light
As an idea, not as a qvc host at the White House, working for people who paid for his campaign. This is embarrassing.
It’s not ai. He did this with media there.
It is simply political. Sorry you struggle with something political existing. The issue isn’t notes. It’s the president of the United States low rent shilling for the guy who bought him.
Buy the dip brokies… don’t let your ego keep you poor! Muahahaha
For what reasons? I have an S so I’m pretty much locked in unless I’m going to a lucid but if I had a 3 or a Y I’d be looking at the magma heavily. Thinking about selling my other 2 cars to justify getting one anyway
there's a lot of youtube coverage of chinese cars already here's a fun one that just came out: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QOa\_\_xaCPs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QOa__xaCPs)
lol right slave labor [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG8\_QUD6PdE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG8_QUD6PdE) point me to where the slaves are
Nearly every response to that post it’s obviously propaganda BS so I’m gonna assume the post is too. Multiple publications state the making of the battery is fully automated but the car is not. Given how bad the quality of the vehicles I could believe a robot was just churning them out tbh
That’s a NIO factory not a BYD factory second that’s ONE factory not all of them the batteries and certain aspect of assembly are fully automated it’s the same here but it’s physically impossible for the assembly of the entire car to be automated. Of course they aren’t gonna invite western influencers to their slave shops SHEIN and temu did the same shit but surprisingly they still used borderline slave and child Labor
You're doing it right!! Buy what works for you! I refuse cancel culture and boycotting. I do what works for me. None of these keyboard warriors are living your life or paying your bills. Simple as.
Yup, that's the exact reason we bought a model y instead of any of the other options when my OG model 3 was due for a refresh. I really didn't want to go with Tesla again, but for our use case there were just no other realistic options. Electrify America is the only other charging network that comes anywhere close (and not really even that close) to the ubiquity of the Tesla supercharger footprint and they can't keep half their charging stations working reliably for more than a week at a time it seems like.
Idk man the model Y and f150 are the most popular car on the world with people who take home over 250K annually for a reason. Obviously have the finances to buy whatever car they want yet they just keep getting a new model Y or f150 every 2 years. Majority of the “shortcomings” are super niche things aside from removing the stalks on the steering wheel Lucid and polestar are at a higher price point but don’t even have basics like sentry mode or full self driving
Imagine the outrage if Biden did this.
u're just all over teh place nitpicking trying to find an argument. The US 100% tariff is on all chinese cars, not just BYD. Your understanding of Chinese manufacturing is stuck in the 90s. China hasn't been the place for lowest wage labor in a long time. Advanced manufacturing is all about automation now. The big picture is: right now, Chinese EVs are produced in highly automated factories offering cars with way more features for less money. This is across the industry, whether it's NIO or BYD or Xiaomi (which someone else already linked to).
Brother idgaf to nitpick because at the end of the day it’s my money and I’ll buy what I want with it and you’ll do the same with yours. I’m just giving my opinion
Sell it.
It does come off like some weird political statement…I couldn’t imagine buying one now. You must truly have no soul.
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They actually have a cost-advantage in manufacturing by concentrating on certain models and very few variations. It's not that easy to catch up, as evidenced by the critique directed at former German "high" end manufactures using lots of cheap hard plastic in their cars, making them feel cheaper than the new Model Y. Tesla obviously still has lots of people that go to work every day in the cars they built and ask themselves "What do I miss, what can be improved, what would more people make buy this car?"
Yes, seems much more likely than the cars being set ablaze by the people celebrating and promoting the vandalism of Tesla's on platforms like reddit. /s
That sounds crazy.
sorry, the current reality is pretty crazy as well. welcome to reality.
Be aware you are getting in a much more expensive car with maintenance problems and a fender bender can cost $45k to fix. My buddy works in insurance and they won’t even insure rivians because repairs are so expensive. Also their self driving is no where near tesla. But sure make a high impact financial decision because of politics.
This is a remarkably dumb thought.
I have noticed that none of Tesla’s social media has shared any pics or media from whatever this event was today.
Do they think their base can afford these? They were just complaining about the price of eggs and milk.
Yeah keep buying clothing made by people in the chinese concentration camps. Check the internet, you 99% sure own some
Ubiquity of service centers too. My Tesla is about an hour away. Not the greatest, but I don't live in a big city. Lucid? 3+ and it looks a bit shady to me. Polestar? I assume a Volvo dealer 1.5 hrs away would maybe help me, but the range is bad, the rental I tried had a shot suspension after 40k miles, and I had foot fatigue from their poor one pedal drive.
He very clearly trades favorable reviews for early access to products. I don't think he's taking money, but I do think he skirts the legal line of what it means to be a paid sponsor. He wouldn't, for example, have gotten a guided tour and interview with Apple engineers if he wasn't playing ball and singing praises of every product they release. But, I have to say, your a PR person. Your job is literally that of a paid propagandist. Why on earth would I or anyone else trust what you say?
I hear you. People that currently own a Tesla, I imagine most will continue to drive that car. That doesn’t impact the bottom line. People in the market for a car, it’s really easy to NOT consider a Tesla.
If you’re interested, Rich Rebuilds recently tried out several of them and commented on the build quality. https://youtu.be/3QOa__xaCPs
Well, I'm not *Marques's* PR person. :) So ultimately, don't really care. But he's a very solid dude and out of the current swamp of influencer slop, the way he operates is as close to being editorially neutral as can be. Access journalism has always been a thing, it's just a matter of degrees. On the other hand, you have the Omar/Whole Mars Blogs and the Sawyer Merritts and the Farzads of the world...
You do realize that most of the things we buy electronically is made in China. The only stuff blocked here is stuff designed AND made in China. Also. They are sold in European countries and Australia. It's not like they are ONLY on China. You can check out rich rebuilds recent video. https://youtu.be/3QOa__xaCPs There's plenty of places to go to find not Chinese reporting of the cars. Challenge your bubble for information
Fire science is quite advanced and can easily tell if the fire originated at the battery, or an external ignition source. The vegas cybertruck had the headlights on after the fire went out. It's surprisingly hard to light the battery on fire.
I’m sorry my decision to choose a different car after 8 years of ownership has upset you.
Okay just did
Looks sick for sure, but I'm not seeing any used or for $30k.
uh ok?
Please done use science, the us left science long long ago. Now they will just tell you what to believe and if you are in support, you will .. just do that.
My Model Y lease ends next January and I was going to buy it out for the €20k residual value, but now I’m just going to hand it back and never drive another Tesla until that man is gone.
They don’t even need to do it. The mob is burning them on their own.
Do they come with a free MyPillow now?
I was, but I'm depressingly wrong. This is gonna be the strangest 4 years ever.
He doesn’t praise every Apple product. He bashes a lot of them. He bashed the magic mouse to Tim Cook’s face.
Dunno. I got one. 🤷🏻♂️
They’re going to toe the line to get access and a good reputation. I don’t think it’s as transactional as good review = money from the OEM or an official “partnership” as stated above I have worked with journalists and the ones who constantly trash people or misconstrue answers don’t get invited back or they get totally canned responses. If you want to get backstage access and candid answers, you have to be fair. Apple makes good products and know what they’re doing, you would be hard pressed to absolutely trash a new Apple product the way you could some unproven kickstarter device. If MKD trashed or promoted every product, he’d lose credibility quickly but he’s also promoting tech generally. If he trashed every EV he reviewed, people would stop going to him for info because the viewer is probably already in the market for an EV but wants info on which one.
Biden did do this.
Because it can execute all driving maneuvers? And to be exact, they call it "Full Self Driving (Supervised)"
I love Teslar! This was the dumbest thing I saw
Your take is bunk
Buy now and get free tags... on the side of your car!
BRAWNDO. It's what plants crave!
Nobody had much of an issue with a Ford at the Whitehouse. The outrage came because he left out the most American car company while talking about electrifying America.
Worst on the planet... Really?
In a normal timeline what they did was incredibly illegal because of the Ethics in Government Act and the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act. Shame the timeline has gone to shit.
Smells like desperation. I don’t think this is going to have the effect they’re hoping for
Is that the one he went 90+ in a school zone in?
It's been [literally] ages but I worked at Apple corporate (sw+hw) and we actually seeded reviewers legit early access stuff with the expectation that they'd give honest feedback. Meaning they'd get the product (hardware, software, whatever) and maybe some notes about the state (like this side feature has a known crash if you do xyz or similar) if it's *really* early. And then wait for the review. Sometimes they would take long enough with the product that they'd get an update during the review period, but generally it was what it was at the time. Trust me that people lived in fear of these reviews (like from the Mossberg types). And I'll note that "playing ball" wasn't part of the deal as far as I could tell. MKBHD (and others) can get in that club by having the audience demographics that Apple wants and that's it. Obviously, I'm not recent and I can't speak for every instance, but that's my experience.
And all he succeeded in doing is making sure I never ever buy Goya anything, which I had previously never given a thought to.
Are those Chinese clothes currently sabotaging the entire United States? Is this Chinese shirt currently dismantling Social Security?
Are you tongue-in-cheek comparing this situation to an Albert Einstein quote?
I think a lot of them are merely incentivized. Wanna get interviews and invites to exclusive Tesla events? Want new products sent to you early? Well then your content better match what corporate is expecting, or they'll prop up someone else. Apple and Disney are notorious for their influence on this sect of media. If you say what they don't like, you'll learn real quick what the consequences are.
No, it's very good to *question* the validity of any media nowadays. Your concern is healthy. Question > verify.
Ya mammy
I dunno, used Tesla prices are dropping quite fast with the controversy. It's not a bad time if you're in the market for one.
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MYP isn’t 30K either bro lowest I’ve seen locally is 43 out the door
Yeah I’ve seen a few where they have good things to say. Rich was also shitting on rivian but rivian owners love them he seems like a contrarian half the time but I do enjoy his videos
I think it was 60 on a weekend but yea
Dude he’s completely alienating his customer base. It’s one of the dumbest things I have ever witnessed. “But there’s a sharp partisan divide. Fifty-five percent of Republicans say there’s no chance at all they’d consider buying an EV in the next decade, compared to only 14 percent of Democrats and 28 percent of independents who say the same. The results also showed that while 77 percent of Americans support clean energy investments, only 49 percent support EV investments. In blue states, EVs made up a little over 12 percent of the market, compared to 3.5 percent in Republican-leaning states in the third quarter of 2023, according to a report by Alliance for Automotive Innovation.” https://www.eenews.net/articles/whats-behind-the-republican-hatred-of-evs/
I enjoy my model 3 but there is zero chance I'm buying a Tesla again after this. You'd have to be a really pathetic person to support this type of crap.
Is your Tesla safe man. I noticed one was vandalised just recently in Ponsonby. Keep safe or better get rid of it if you can
>much more expensive car The R2 is slated to start at 45k.
This is what $300 million dollars gets you in advertising. This and complete control of the federal government.
Never buying another Tesla ever again. Borderline embarrassed to drive the one I currently own. Not only are these 2 bad for business, they are actually losers who make anything they touch uncool lol.
You don't have to be so salty buddy. Of course I realize a ton of electronic components are eventually manufactured in China. And why exactly would I be asking for info if I didn't want to learn more? I don't doubt that there are some very nice cars produced in China but your claim that "Chinese cars are far and above anything we have here" is what I find hard to believe.
Look in the mirror
That car is not out yet. I’m obviously talking about their current offerings
It wasn’t just Tesla’s vandalised
> I think it was 60 It was definitely over 90. He also tried to hide it. https://imgur.com/6Mnebzm
Lo
Nah
Cool. Arrest them and charge with domestic terrorism
To have a selling point that says to support the work force of a highly automated production facility is near sided. Elons whole premise was to reduce the number of line workers and Telsa is known for having very understaffed support services... in pursuit of efficiency.
No struggles at all. Just like Michael Bloomberg bought Joe? Billionaires do it on both sides so don’t act like it doesn’t happen with Dems. Maybe you struggle with seeing it through the tunnel vision with Democrats.
Yeah a lot of meetings doing his job instead when Joe was there in a coma not knowing who was running the country. We are much better off now.
I just bought a MY and friend got a referral because he bought the model 3, so yeah their “base” can afford it.
Good luck
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Noice
480 3 months ago , 250 now!!! BUYYYYYYY
Yes, but they talked about putting down a deposit for the R2, so their current offerings aren't really relevant if they're not trading in for them.
illegal boycott!!! lol
Lmao that’s hilarious 😂 How did the editors not catch that
Fuckin looney toons
You forgot the /s. I’m hoping lol
It's better then having your car vandalized
Yes, of course more corruption and crime will sell more cars!
Whew! what a relief! I can now go out and purchase my long awaited Tesla because the president vouches to protect me from domestic terrorism to my beloved car. /s
So funny and cringe to watch this level of desperation on display. Tesla is so done as a brand now. Get rid while you still can.
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Yeah. Such a dumb comment.
Why do you think they haven't caught up already?
Pay for FSD and maybe in 50 years will be ready
Please change the locations you consume information.
I dont have a tesla myself i wanted one before this but does their software have ads? Knock on wood it wont happen
Don't give them ideas 🤣🤣🤣
Very white knight ignorant American of you.
I'm not sure these guys are thinking their moves through that deeply, so it seems to me. Seems like they both operate on whims.
Isn't this illegal.......
Of course they do. Otherwise they wouldn’t bother. The question is whether they are right or not. Looked at Richie rebuilds video about the Chinese vehicles being offered and they literally destroy anything being offered here in the states.
I'm super hyped for the R2.
Traded in my model 3 and got a BMW iX. So much nicer
MyPillow
Its all computer
Lmao 🤣 🐏
What's with the gross orange nail on Donald's thumb? Ew.
Seems like a pretty general quote.. A lot of situations could apply.
Are you not aware of the bud light incident?
Is there any chance that’s not what’s happening there?
You warned them that they were "getting into" a much more expensive car that you knew they weren't actually getting into? That makes no sense.
Dumped my 2023 model y yesterday feels so good. I was so embarassed to drive it. Got a Kia EV9...
THIS PHOTO is the advertisement.
Working class voters can't afford those prices
He would have been a car salesman if he didn’t inherit $100m+
Everyone here forgot the press conference Biden did driving in a Hummer EV, and held the speech in the GM showroom with 2 Hummer EVs in the background? He FLEW to Michigan spending tens of millions of tax payer dollars to do an infomercial for GM. https://youtu.be/90icczoDRoY?si=6tWOHRjBSdiYO99N You only see what you're told to see, and you think you're clever for seeing it. This also didn't age well. Where are those 40,000 charging stalls GM was gonna build?
The president can’t be held liable for anything he does as per the Supreme Court so no lmao
He put more work into that stunt than he puts into being President....
Where do you draw the line exactly, do you use Amazon?
Anyone buying when it was 400+ is getting absolutely annihilated. Buying now is also questionable, the stock should be under more downward pressure after their Q1 comes out, I can easily see sub 200
The VW’s from HITLER were pretty good too ya know.
I’d pay $40.00 for a dozen eggs if I had a Tesla, a Frump, and a Mush to toss them at. /S
These were burning 🔥before this……..
Mike Lindel just another GOP IDIOT getting what he earned!!!
I bought a Tesla Model 3 five years ago because it was the most American made car period. I love it since it has cost me zero $ for maintenance except one set of tires. I don't make my buying decision based on person at a company, I based it in the 99.9% of the people working there... Hard working Americans at the Tesla factories in California and Texas. By the way Tesla full self driving has saved thousands of lives already, but it can't be proven since the accidents didn't happen. What will change people's minds about full self driving are the statistics over time showing the trends versus non full self driving cars electric or gas. Sorry to go off, but why don't people who want to hurt Tesla think about the 120,000 Americans employed there most of whom own stock in the company they work for??!!
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No shit that’s why he said he put a deposit down haha
This is the thing about stupid billionaires -- they have been living in their bubble so long they think everyone can afford $120K Cybertrucks. This dumb stunt probably cost them what few remaining sales they might have gotten from anyone left of Adolph Hitler. I know I'll never buy another Tesla product.
How’s the EV9? Looking at this for our next one, maybe in a few years.
The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.
Thanks!
There's literally orange hair dye or orange face cream stuck all of his fingernail. lol
You and the stupidest comment award of the month.
Little bit of a learning curve but roomy and much better ride with more creature comforts. I am able to charge it with the tesla wall charger.
That was one of the most disgraceful unpresidential displays I have ever seen. Not to mention clearly a conflict of interest.
this is just sad
they really gave the fucking president ad copy
😭😭 they’re either deluded or just lying
like what? the government is going to force you to buy it??
"You and the stupidest comment award of the month." Such desperation.
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I'm getting an Elantra N, could give a shit about straight line speed (rarely even launch my Model 3 Performance anymore) but the Elantra N, GR Corolla, Civic Type R and Golf R are such great hot hatches these days.
Good vented and seats more room . Standard auto pilot is better, no more hard braking at certain areas of the highway.
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