You’re welcome. 😇
I saw this too but isn't this something that could be done even before this update? I thought maybe it would let you force the car to precondition
Yes. It seems so obvious but I didn’t think of it until today.
Before you couldn’t go to non-listed third party chargers say an EvGo charger that isn’t seen on Tesla maps as a charger, but if is a third party station, then now it will precondition going to the third party charger. So this aspect is new. Third-party chargers don’t show up on the charging map that Tesla provides, but they know third party stations are chargers from google maps im assuming.
Ahhh that makes sense. I haven't really used third party fast chargers but this is a good change for sure
I thought it only really works if the Tesla supercharger is quite close to the third party charger. Here in Western Australia, when I go on a road trip to more regional areas, the closest third party DC charger might be 50km away and the closest Tesla supercharger could be 800km away. In this scenario, the car won't start pre-conditioning.
The whole point of this update is that the car now preconditions when going to map POIs that are listed as DC chargers, even if they don't have a corresponding entry in the actual charger list.
Manually pre heat with Teslogic works
Not all charging stations are listed. Hence my pro tip.
How does this work?
Or, on the flip side, if you want to navigate to a supercharger without taking an efficiency hit with preconditioning, navigate to the nearest Panera or whatever.
lol … I was thinking the same thing … driving Perth to Monkey 🐵 Mia doesn’t have any Tesla Superchargers on the it’s path lol 😂 Have been hoping for years now …. Still waiting lol
This is what we’ve always done
Do you really need preconditioning in WA’s warm weather 365 days of the year?
Yes, because the car will actively chill the battery to below the ideal fast charging temp if it doesn't think it's going to fast charge in the near future.
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We have a planned midway stop on our way up to Vermont that involves sit down dinner at one of our family favorite restaurants so I DON’T want preconditioning. We punch in an address right near the Supercharger for the opposite effect so charging takes as long as possible. (It’s a 20 bay stop and at the time we arrive, typically empty. I’m not a complete dumbass.) Would be nice if they’d just allow you to toggle it on/off.
Ludicrous+ mode also works
Wonder if I just put the car in Track Mode before I get to a 3rd party fast charger, that will force the battery to pre-con before I get there to charge.
In Europe I see no difference after the update. Every third party charger that I have ever been too was on Tesla charger list already. Is it really such a big thing in the states?
> Before you couldn’t go to non-listed third party chargers say an EvGo charger that isn’t seen on Tesla maps as a charger, but if is a third party station, then now it will precondition going to the third party charger. So this aspect is new. It did this before as well. I've done it numerous times here in Norway and it's started preconditioning the battery when navigating to third-party DC chargers.
Just give us a button to start preconditioning already! It's so stupid that they suggest workarounds instead of just giving us a button to manually start preconditioning the battery. Other brands have this and I have no idea why Tesla can't make it as well.
Now you can just search for "EVgo”, “Ionity”, “Electrify America”, “Aral Pulse” etc, select the station you want and then it will precondition. As easy as that. I yet have to find a station that Google doesn’t know.
What you wrote was always possible and what most users have been doing for years - now with the new update the car actually starts precondition once you have selected a third party charger (which it would not have done in the past)
You missed the whole point of my post. Read it again.
you are saying, despite the update, if its not on the list, use the closest super charger? that is as I said nothing new, and actually, you could have said "set the closest DC charger as a destination" - now that it also preconditions for non-superchargers... not hating, just pointing it out - I get your point tho.
You're right. Thank you for pointing that out.
think it was confusing some here - but yeah, its better now, can actually choose a non-supercharger nearby, that will help with the timing. we are still missing a simple button to start it manually without setting any charger as a destination at all. one day maybe
Regarding 2025.2: setting a charger outside the "list" did not activate preheating in my case a few days ago. I had to chose a nearby charger (non-Tesla) from the map and it triggered preheating.
This whole thing could be a menu option honestly. "Precondition battery". I'll click it whenever I think I need it and is appropriate. Add the ability to trigger with voice and you solved most of the problems that require such hacks. Tying it to navigation is unnecessarily complicating it.
You‘ve got it wrong. If the charger was in the list of chargers Tesla knows about by default, it preconditions. The update adds if you use Google search to find a charger, in the same way you might use search to find a shop, then the car will precondition if it’s a known charger by Google
Smart! Thanks
That'd be fantastic. I often have to exit navigation in order to stop PC eating a crazy amount of battery to save 2-3mins on arrival. It's not even a busy SuC that I'm heading too.
It doesn't matter if they are listed, mine works now even if they are not listed.
How? How does your Tesla pre condition if the charging station isn’t on the list?
Do you mean how do I do it or how does it know to charge? To do it, I search for the charger I want by name, and select it. I assume it uses text recognition to search for something like 'charging station' in the destinations title to see if it should precondition or not. That's the whole point of this update I think
Yeah but the whole point of my post is that not all chargers come up under this. Tesla has certain requirements for stations to be listed on the Tesla app. My EVCS comes up but it doesn’t pre condition on the way.
Maybe your one doesn't have the right keywords to trigger charging? My one used to never precondition, but now does after the update, even though it's not in the 'charging' tab.
[So apparently there’s some requirements](https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/improving-access-third-party-fast-charging) Tesla’s recent software update aims to enhance battery preconditioning for third-party fast chargers. However, this feature currently activates only when navigating to chargers recognized as “Qualified Third-Party Chargers” within Tesla’s navigation system. For a charging station to attain this status, it must meet specific criteria over a 60-day period, including: • Having at least one compatible charging connector. • Being used by Tesla drivers at least once every four days. • Maintaining an average charge success rate of 90% or higher. If your destination charger isn’t preconditioning the battery, it might be because the charger hasn’t yet met these qualifications or isn’t recognized by Tesla’s system. To address this, ensure your vehicle’s software is up to date, as Tesla continually expands support for additional third-party chargers. Additionally, consider providing feedback to Tesla about specific charging locations to help improve their network integration. For more detailed information, refer to Tesla’s official support page on improving access to third-party fast charging. 
OP has poor reading comprehension.
No thank you. No need to compensate me.
No, those requirements are for the charger list. Again, what changed in this update is preconditioning for chargers that are NOT on the list, merely identified in their generic map POI data as being a fast charger (as opposed to, say, a restaurant or a scenic viewpoint or whatever). Your EVCS should precondition if you're able to look it up on the map and see in the info that it's a charger, even if it doesn't show up in the actual charger list.
That’s what I’m telling you it’s not. I search EVCS and they come up. I set it as my destination and my Tesla doesn’t precondition.
Yes, few (if any?) non-Superchargers are on the charging list in the US. The biggest networks (like Electrify America) are not on the list at all. But most EA sites pretty reliably have map POIs identifying them as a charger, and you can punch in "Electrify America" into the navigation search and they'll come up as regular destinations (which happen to be a charger). Hence this update, the car now preconditions for them.
This seems very obvious
Assuming you have a nearby supercharger to select
The tip was useful right up until the update that you have shared.
Then you didn’t read my post.
It's a great idea in theory. In practice, people who have no idea about it would start clicking it, without any understanding as to what it does (ie. they would click it when on the way home, hoping it makes their home charging faster). Then they'd complain they don't get the range they expected because the car is wasting energy on heating the battery.
Would be SO much easier to have a button to precondition with a confirmation boxes making sure you want to do this and then ask you for a destination so it can try to time the preconditioning.
Not sure people here understand your post, no it definitely does not understand every third party charger *is* a charger therefore you still have to do this for some of them.
I learned from another individual that certain level 2 chargers with low wattage don’t require preconditioning so that may be also why.
I had this situation where the charger isn’t on the list but shows on google maps . I just share the link to my Tesla and it correctly determined it was a charger
How do you send a link to your tesla?
Does preconditioning actually help? Someone in here posted something showing increased battery usage when preconditioning, and the time it took to replace the extra depletion resulted in barely any gains at the charger. Plus, costs more. Was that wrong?
Preconditioning doesn’t harm the battery; it’s actually beneficial. It ensures the battery reaches optimal temperature for efficient charging and performance. Tesla designs it to prolong battery life.
Preconditioning your Tesla before arriving at a charging station helps warm up the battery. This improves charging efficiency, especially at superchargers, so you get faster charging speeds and reduce the time spent there. It also helps preserve the battery’s health.
Yes, I didn't say anything about harming the battery. Referring to speed of charging
uhhh yeah you don't need to precondition the battery if you are doing say home charging or any low L2 charging that using AC to DC charging. Your Tesla does not require preconditioning if you are charging at home since you are charging at most 9.6kW in the USA and converting AC to DC power. The whole point of preconditioning is just to help the batteries charge more efficiently on the go and applies mainly for DC fast charging. If you are not DC fast charging it doesn't really matter since you have inefficiencies since it has to go through the AC - DC converter to charge the batteries.
I agree. There should just simply be a shortcut in the car menu to be able to trigger preconditioning on demand and not have to rely on navigating to a DC fast charger to trigger it.
Find it on google maps app on your phone, hit the share button and find the tesla app
For me at least in the US prior to 2025 software release, it doesn’t. Say it is a destination charger at a hotel or mall, currently in the US, it won’t precondition for that type of charger. Before the update, it only preconditions for superchargers in the US.
Yeah, I don't think it will precondition for destination chargers here either. Those are usually less than 22kW, so you seldom need preconditioning to achieve those speeds. I'm talking about third party fast chargers.
There should be one streamlined way to see all chargers from all companies. I still see it as silly jumping into apps to find 3rd party chargers…
What if the charger I’m wanting to charge at is 110 miles from the closest Tesla supercharger? Will it still precondition?
Probably. Set the super charger as last destination and your charger as a stop. See what happens.
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