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Aren't the Honda Prologue and the Acura ZDX just a rebadged Chevy Blazer EV? I'd assume the drivetrain and battery system is either similar if and if not the exact same. If that's the case why is this taking so long, shouldn't they have gotten access when GM did?
Lot of people buying the Prologue.
Are their charge ports on the correct side though? I find it odd that some OEMs willingly make the poor decision to not put the charge port on the left-rear.
If you pick Chevy blazer in the Tesla app to charge it, the handshake completes so not sure why it is taking so long.
It's the same crap with Kia/Hyundai. If you select Ioniq 5, which is the only one with access right now, on the app you can charge other Kia/Hyundai vehicles even though they "delayed" the rollout.
There's likely some design decisions that went into it. When the Rivian R2 was first introduced the charge port was on the rear passenger side, and the community was an in uproar over it, so they've since confirmed it'll be moved to the rear driver's side. That said, most of these OEMs were probably sold on a "plug and play" type outlet that they can just swap out the CCS connector with a NACS one to get going. Then they'll move the plug somewhere better on a future release.
I highly doubt these OEMs move the port to the correct side. They’re more likely to go bankrupt before making an intelligent decision.
They need to do some redesigns on the cars. Ford will likely put the charge port in the right place on their second generation EV platforms that they're working on.
Great! Now to update the ZDX so it’s not some bizarre Chevy/Honda blend. The cockpit dissonance really brings that car down.
It is starting to matter less and less. V3 are somewhat usable in many configuration bar the most extreme ones, and v4 has a much longer cable that fits everyone. Source: I had a niro which has one of the worst configurations for superchargers, and could do many of them in Europe without parking too badly at many superchargers.
Interesting. I'm just guessing here as to how they restrict access - but when you plug in the CCS protocol is actually HTTP underneath. Your car has a MAC address like a computer. So I suspect they're using a MAC address whitelist based on the address space of different manufacturers. Hyundai probably doesn't have reserved address space for specific models so if one model is enabled then all Hyundais are enabled. Just speculation.
I still hope every manufacturer moves it. If you go to a large CCS charging stop, its chaotic because half the cars park front in. You never know what way somebody is going to go. The short cord on the V3 supercharger and the rear drivers side charge port forces everyone to park exactly the same.
Hypocrites, they poop on Tesla for Musk but when it comes to superchargers now it is ok? 😂🤡
The OEMs are only going to move them during a major design refresh as it is a huge expense to do so and it might even to to late to do it now for some of them as those decisions are locked in pretty early on. Remember the location of the chargers pre Tesla opening it up was not a huge deal didn't mater as most stations went with just slightly longer cords like Tesla V4 went with as even Tesla saw errors in their choice of very short cords as the V3 chargers cords were not long enough for the cybertruck until the truck backed a lot closer and required moving some bollards at some stations. Personally I dont think the location of the charger should matter that much as I think all charging stations should be setup to reach easily to 2 quarter panels at a time on either side of the car. That solves all the issues for the most part.
$50k purchase and repping a badge all the time vs spending $50 once a year on a road trip. I shit on musk, and I drive a Tesla though. I also shit on Bill Gates and use windows. Sometimes I go to Walmart if I need to (rarely) but I don’t agree with their employment practices. I use Amazon for web services even though I think they’re despicable. I hate oil companies but when I have to get gas I still go to a gas station. I don’t know why you’re so easily confused.
I think your confused… i despise the people shitting on Tesla or damaging Teslas BECAUSE of Musk. I shit on Musk to but I love Tesla, Starlink, Paypal and SpaceX.
Are there any non-Tesla EVs available with NACS ports yet? I kept hearing all last year that 2025 would be the switch for many brands
Why not on both sides instead? More options and such.
Complicates manufacturing, unnecessary parts
Have you considered that it is not up to manufacturers to adhere design decisions to make it easier for people to charge at a competitors charging network? With Rapid V3+ and V4 site deployment throughout 2025 and beyond the need for charging at V3s is becoming less necessary day by day. By EOY alone it will be possible to travel through a substantial portion of the US without ever using a V3.
I really hope that Tesla ramps up his super charger locations to be able to support the amount of vehicles using their charging stations to eliminate waiting times for chargers.
 Other OEM's figuring out the best charger port location.
Curious myself i think Rivian will be the first one other that not sure, i would be surprised if Honda does for this year.
Really!? Why? Honda didn’t even make that car. Honda is so behind they can’t even create their own stuff. Embarrassing.
No clue. People love Honda (me included). If they can finally get it right, it’d be great.
It’s a really good looking car. I have an equinox ev (same platform just ever so slightly smaller) and I love it so far.
The best location for curbside charging is the passenger side. Curbside is the only situation where you can't easily design around the issue. Every other charger manufacturer has no problems making cables that reach, and Tesla's v4 heads address this. They'll catch up to the rest of the industry eventually
Gas cars have fuel doors all over the place and we've managed for decades. This isn't a difficult problem to solve
The Ioniq 5 is the first major one. Out of Spec just did a charging test against a Model 3 and the I5 still finished charging faster (and pulled more power in that timeframe) even though no Tesla chargers support 800v yet https://youtu.be/U7F0h1jXlMA?si=OuAVs3ZPF9IUU7DA
Weird. No one cares. Go away.
There's one supercharger near me with only eight stalls and it's always full no matter the time of the day lol.
Maybe they’re restricting it like this due to the various manufacturers policy on free adapters or adapters being supplied to dealers to sell. They need to restrict access to the rate they can supply the adapters. That’s why the native NACS Hyundai got access so quick.
if you check supercharge.info most of the stuff under construction or getting permitted is adding capacity or urban/suburban areas and they’ve basically stopped expanding in rural areas without SCs(nothing in all of WV, very little in Southwest VA, not much in rural TN or AL) most of the rural SCs i’ve seen in development/under construction are from NEVI funds or other subsidized options. Not normal if you look at previous years
I believe that the main reason behind the delays for different manufacturers is software. With the native NACS Hyundais do they just plug in and it works automatically like with Ford? Or do they need to use an app to initiate the charge like GM's implementation?
1. It’s not a Tesla 2. It’s nicer than our ID.4 was 3. Low lease payments 4. It’s a really nice SUV and that’s coming from someone that currently has a Tesla and just traded an ID.4
It’s very cheap on lease as is the ZDX, like half what my Model Y has depreciated 😂
I thought I cared then I thought and remembered that I do not
Changing to the tesla charger is their first dumb move. They outnumber tesla. In Europe Tesla switched to CCS on the cars and chargers 6 years ago, and everyone can use every charger. Except for the now almost dead Renault and Nissans from the 2000s, who need adapters. Its simply better and easier. Tesla just charges non-tesla owners a little more per kwh, so that there's still a tiny benefit to owning one. But then other cars get different discounts elsewhere. I think the tesla charger is a nicer charger tbh, but not when it's locked behing licensing deals
I bought a 2024 Prologue last month at a great price and love it so far.
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