FSD Supervised vs Autopilot Unsupervised

You can't have autopilot unsupervised, it can't even change lanes.

100% this. If I could have FSD, I would pay for it. Wife says no. HW4 FSD is so much better.

Autopilot.

I’m not sure I understand the question… autopilot doesn’t obey any traffic laws. How could it be unsupervised??

To summarize, I prefer Autopilot over the $99 a month for FSD. Going into detail, I’ve had two 30 day trials of FSD. At the time FSD changed lanes too fast for me. It was like a teenager was driving. It’s been a year, so maybe that’s fixed. Regardless I’m not paying $99 a month when I just use Autopilot on the interstate. I pick a lane and stay in Autopilot for the majority of the ride. I suppose if I drove more than 10,000 miles a year FSD might be more appealing. But then again I’m butt hurt new Tesla cars don’t come with Autopilot. “Lane centering” now costs $99 a month for new Teslas.

Look into lemonade insurance, and some others give discounts for using fsd, tell the wife you’re losing money not using fsd lol

They used to have that as enhanced autopilot or something like that where it would change lanes.

I have that. It is a good compromise between FSD and autopilot. 240k miles and it is my favorite feature. I hate that Tesla has nixed this feature. It will likely keep me from buying another in the future

I feel like current insurance options that say discounts with FSD are a scam. I don’t want to be penalized if I choose not to use it. I live in an area that gets snow and I would never use FSD during that time. Overall I would love to get it but it’s not ready for true prime time where I would only use it over driving.

It’s called a hypothetical.

Autopilot unsupervised could take me 90% commute. If I could work (email) during that time, no brainer.

We are at a point where; 1) HW3 FSD V12 2) HW3 FSD V13 3) HW4 FSD V14 are very different things! Without specifying, it would be hard to make an argument for Autopilot over FSD.

Autopilot without question Just keeping the lane without my attention would solve 80% of my driving. It would be a literal game changer

>I live in an area that gets snow and I would never use FSD during that time. Have you used a version of FSD 14.2 or later in the snow? It's exceptionally competent, I would put it better than 60% of experienced winter weather drivers, and better than 95% of the drivers I watched slipping and sliding around in Georgia when I lived there for a short period of time and it snowed. I currently live in a part of the Midwest where we get heavy lake effect snow, bad enough that my wife refuses to drive and it, but she will let the Tesla drive in it. I took it out for a test drive in the first bad snow storm that we had, bad enough you couldn't see any of the lanes on the road, and it was a slick slush. The Tesla did like everybody else on the road, just kind of guessed where it's lane was and did its best. It was taking corners a little too slowly for me to figure out what it would do if it started to slip, so I gave it a little bit of extra juice pedal around a left hand turn where it had lots of room to slide if it needed to, and as soon as it started to slip, it immediately countersteered into the slide, correcting it and recovering without any issues. Obviously you'll want to pay a lot more attention to it, and be ready to take over early if it does something that appears to be stupid, but I have only had to take over five times this winter. Three of them the vehicle forced me because of camera issues, one might have been okay, it just felt like it was approaching an upcoming curve too fast, so I took over, and the last one it was merging on the highway, and the snow plows had merged well before the merge lane ended, and there was a semi in the lane it needed to merge into, so it was about to hit uneven slush at 40MPH and I didn't trust it enough to handle that. If you're on HW3, I agree. Don't let FSD 12.6.4 drive in anything more than a light snow on a well cleared road.

I have HW4. Did the latest trial and the car would drive to fast to feel safe with snow on the ground. I was more than happy with it outside of letting it drive on snow.

People are struggling with your question because it is a contradiction of terms. In a Tesla, Autopilot is just Autosteer (lane keeping). By its very nature, it can't be unsupervised because it does not respond to obstacles or other cars doing stupid stuff. Your Edit doesn't really clarify. There's no way I would stop paying attention for a system that can't keep safe. That's insane. Now, if the question is on whether we would sacrifice supervised FSD that works virtually everywhere for something like FSD that can work only on highways, but unsupervised, that's more interesting. Possibly, but I'd have to experience it to decide. I'd certainly wish for it on a long trip, but it would have to allow me to safely sleep. Otherwise, it's not an improvement.

Since it can't change lanes, how would it work unsupervised when you encounters obstructions in the road -- debris, a crash, construction, etc.? Would the car just stop and sit there blocking traffic because the driver was asleep (as they would be allowed to be unsupervised)? It makes no sense. By definition a lane centering system would need the ability for the driver to take over at any time, which is not "unsupervised."

This needs more upvotes. As worded, the OP's question makes no sense. Perhaps if they were comparing to the old "Enhanced AutoPilot" it would. But without the ability for the car to change lanes to avoid issues it makes no sense to allow it to be unsupervised. That would be far more dangerous than if they suddenly made the current version of FSD unsupervised tomorrow.

Mine does?

You have enhanced autopilot then.

So why if there’s road debris on the highway? If autopilot even detects it, if it can’t stop in time, won’t it just plow through it? Whereas FSD will maneuver around it.

By “autopilot unsupervised” I mean the latest FSD models/tech, but with restrictions of autopilot feature set (highway only). There’s no way I’d trust the current Autopilot stack to be unsupervised for reasons like you mentioned.