Just completed a trip from Virginia Beach to Charlotte! FSD was great until it was going almost 30 mph over in hurry and 23 mph over in standard! Hello, this is wreckless driving with mandatory jail time and car impounded! How does this occur with no user input?
Unfortunately, it’s still ongoing with the current settings. It needs to be patched soon or to allow us to input the max speed that we might allow over the limit.
There were numerous troopers along the way. In many states, +14 over will get you a ticket!
Mandatory jail time for 23 over? 😂 Here in California you can do traffic school for anything under 25 over and get no points on your record, it won't even get reported to your insurance. Takes 20 minutes to do online.
It’s the latest update it seems
I love FSD and have it bought on both of our teslas. That said, this drives me nuts! How easy would it be to go off the speed limit signs and go 5 over? I have to pay way too much attention to speed limits for FSD to be engaged.
I cancelled FSD to save a bit of money and was happily surprised to see the ability to scroll my speed up and down with Auto Pilot
I thought you could set a relative or absolute speed limit setting. Why not use it?
Yep, definitely not Texas also
Strange. In standard mine only does 5 over. Max max does about 15-20 depending on surrounding traffic.
idk I have a 23 M3 and can adjust max speed
Can’t you adjust this in the FSD settings
It does this when the speed limit goes from say 65 to 45. Or when other cars are also doing \~65. It would have been worse if it immediately went down to 50 when everyone around you is doing 65.
Do we really need new posts making the exact same point day after day?
Set a max speed in parental controls
Does Chill not go the exact limit or sometimes even under?
You can “fine tune” within each setting (hurry, standard, etc) by scrolling up or down on the right wheel. Scrolling down enough will bring you to the next lowest setting (from Hurry to Standard) and scrolling up enough will move you into the next highest setting (Chill to Standard). I scroll down when a cop is trailing behind me to reduce speed with out intervening and then bump it back up once they pass.
so don’t use hurry or standard? i’m gonna probably get downvoted to hell for this but complaints like this are why my car drives slow as shit on hurry.
Idk the area but why does it look like a major highway? Maybe it’s using old navigational data and not showing the right speed limit it’s using. Mine does that sometimes but it’s always in my benefit. Like I know it’s 45 in an area but it still says 35 speed limit on the screen but it’s doing 47
No. It does this whenever. Mine will do 15 over in standard on a single lane road with no other car around as far as the eye can see.
One of the things that drives me nuts is when you have the setting on to keep up with the flow of traffic (I forget what it’s called) by using the speed of other vehicles around you. But, it’s annoying when the speed limit is 50 MPH for examples and for some reason a huge pack of cars is going 40 MPH. Instead of doing 50-55 MPH and passing it uses the other cars speed and goes 40 MPH with all the other slow pokes.
We *had* the ability to modify the max speed and they took it away for the 2 additional and redundant settings.
Idk how you have this issue on CA 101 I’m struggling to keep it above 70 and pissing off everyone on the road and I have it set to hurry and 85mph limit
Did they take away the blue steering wheel in the new HW4 FSD? I have the blue steering wheel icon near the speed on my HW3 MY running FSD 12.6.4 that is on whenever FSD is active.
Typical, sitting in the passing lane😐
That's removed in v14 FSD
Well... We had the ability to set a speed, but FSD would drive anywhere from 1-15 km/h below that speed.
I did this today haha. Immediately switched it to chill mode when I saw the radar cops.
Speed control was never great but is dreadful ever since they added Mad Max and Chill. Even the max override setting is blatantly ignored
I think they've determined that set speed limits are less safe than following the flow of traffic. The issue is that if traffic isn't present it tends to speed. And if traffic is speeding then fsd speeds then as well. But in dense traffic it keeps a safe distance and manages quite well. The point? Mad max all the way.
Highway by me is 65. The map goes to 45 for about a mile for some reason and then goes back. The car is going the right speed but the map is wrong.
We also had the ability to tell the car to only make minimal lane changes. Now I can be the only person on the road in the right hand lane and in hurry (v12.6, HW3) and it'll still get over into the passing lane for absolutely no reason. Thankfully I can still set the speed being on HW3 not having v14 yet, I'm dreading the day it gets taken away.
You can change the speed offset settings in your dashboard, you can set max speed over speed limits too… I have mine at 12% over
Why is this even on standard? Why would hurry even be allowed to do 33% over the limit? Y'all are crazy
You had the ability to set a max speed, not a cruising speed.
Just curious, was the actual speed limit 45? I have seen this before when the screen thinks the speed limit is not the same as the actual speed limit. And this road in particular does not look like a 45mph kind of road.
Because the software is shit. That’s how it occurs.
I've never had that. Mine does like 6 over in Standard **unless** it wants to match the traffic flow.
Yeah, Virginia is wild. Also anything over 80 is automatic reckless as well. 81 in a 70? Felony reckless. Ask me how I know… I-95 is a trap!
What’s the speed limit offset set to? I noticed that Tesla overrode it on mine to +40%
What?? I don't drive under 80 on some parts of my daily commute!
Not everyone gets that. I have HW 3.
Meanwhile I’m over here in Mad Max and it refuses to go anything over speed limit as everyone else passes by…
They are doing 30 mph over the speed limit, I’d let them have this one. Maybe turn on the high beams just to warn everyone else tho
I think there's a speed offset setting
I scroll through the settings whenever needed. Sometimes it pulls to the right lane too much and I get stuck behind a slow vehicle, so i switch to hurry and it stays in the fast lane. If it goes too fast, switch down again.
I have the exact opposite problem. In hurry I can barley get it to do the speed limit
This happened to my brother who was driving my car using fsd it was a 45 mph rd in GA and it went up to 68 mph in hurry mode we passed a trooper he u-turned pulled us over but let us off with a warning after we explained what happened
And that’s why I love autopilot more than FSD. Max speed set to 76 and it will go that limit unless there is a car in front of me going slower. The only feature I want from FSD is the lane change on blinker, I don’t miss anything else.
I disagree entirely. Autosteer is robotic trash compared to FSD.
It's been broken since the 14 update. On standard our Y will go 7 MPH over in a 60MPH zone, which is perfect. Then it drops to 55MPH for about 20 miles and it wants to go 15 over the limit in standard, makes no sense. So I drop to Chill mode and it'll go 2 over. These are two very common speed limits around us and I dread using FSD in the 55's.
With all these complaints about v14, it’s probably better for me that I don’t have this update yet. 13.2.9 has been awesome. I wish navigation is better on Tesla though, like we can draw our own route, that for FSD, it’s basically flawless. I always use chill and it’s more than sufficient.
Chill mode will change lane if needed if driving below the speed limit when on right lane. People just need to be patient.
Nothing will let go set a speed under what the car thinks is the speed limit. It regularly doesn’t read school zones, constructions zones, doesn’t slow down for rain/ snow, traffic in the lane next to you, the idiot who insists on pacing you right next to you, etc. I wish we could have the direct setting of max speed that we can change in the fly while still using FSD.
and you can set follow distance with AP as well. Amazing that these two features are removed when you pay 100/month.
Mine also fails to have any speed changes when cycling between standard-hurry-madmax.
Lovely Virginia, where in some places, 5 over gets you tickets!
The problem here is that hurry will do 17 over and standard will do 7. I need a 9-11 mph over option! To be honest, I like the way the car drives in hurry, just stop with the excessive speeding!
No, patience is not needed, a max speed input solves the inability of the AI in the car to determine speed! It’s frankly ludicrous that the car will get you thrown in jail!
You got it in one, however, the car is knowingly going almost 30 mph over! This is getting ridiculous!
Your car must suck, this Y we have is a speed demon! 😎
Doesn’t work for FSD, only autopilot!
This was the other annoying thing, the car was following too closely at 80mph. At this speed, should be 2-4 car lengths following distance. Nope, 1 car length!
No, you can’t!
No, there is no speed control or following distance control with FSD!!
Yeah, you get a downvote. I’m not trying to chill while driving to a destination! Standard is too slow, hurry is too fast! I know you mouth breathers keep pointing this out, but profiles are not the problem, speed control and following distance are!
Stupid software designers thinking that ai software knows best! Ai sucks till it doesn’t!!
Chill goes under the speed limit and makes you an obstacle!
Doesn’t do anything with FSD 14
I miss being in control of the software.
How can you supervise something when you can’t discipline the car for breaking the law!!
They're only doing 30 over because the fsd randomly started to to do so, that's what they said in the caption, before that, they were still sitting there. The passing lane isn't about speed, you pass and you exit the lane, especially when the highway is already clear in front of you
My thoughts exactly
Mine doesn't even get the speed limit right. Shows 60 in the 40 zone, shows 40 on the highway where it's 65. Constantly wrong. I opened tickets but no remedy in months...
If this happens in the future just flick it down to chill or sloth snd then back up to standard. Its annoying but itll be fixed eventually
Thats crazy in ny on my morning commute the bulk ofbus are going 85 to 95 in a 55 and we rarely see cops, 95,295, 495 its like mad max
Try Standard and scroll up on the right wheel a couple clicks
Because according to Tesla, user input is bad so they took away the safety critical max speed setting and left us with something so broken it really needs nhtsa complaints made about it.
Doesn’t do anything!
Saw a lot of this yesterday, car was constantly wrong for more than 10 miles passing numerous speed limit signs.
On the East Coast anything 15 over is unlikely to get you a ticket in most states unless it's also over 80. More than 15 over is reckless driving in many states and problematic though. (Edit: Provided you are moving with the speed of traffic and not the fastest car on the road.)
There is no max setting since the new profiles were introduced. The setting you are thinking of is a notification setting, not an FSD setting.
This is completely false. There is no adjustment. One notch of the wheel changes profiles. Accelerating can temporarily increase speed but it doesn't stay there and there's no way to tell a profile to go slower at all.
Makes an uncomfortable ride for the passengers!!! We are going on 5 months of this bullshit!!!!
Roger that!
Virginia is different buddy… +13 is all that is needed! Over 80 is reckless! In emporia and south hill, +5 gets you a summons! Fucking ignorant statement, thank you!
I do this trying to stay within an 10 mph speed range and had to swap profiles over 1000 times on a 1250 mile trip. On the way back I had to use the accelerator non stop for several hours because the speed gap was 17mph between profiles and my speed was yoyoing dangerously in moderately heavy traffic trying to swap profiles. I was literally bouncing between the slowest and fastest car on the road swapping getting either chill and standard or standard and hurry and the speed changed within seconds. It's horrifically bad.
It's a serious misdemeanor, not a felony, but yeah, certain states going over 80 is potentially instant jail time unless you can get them to issue a defective equipment ticket instead on the road side. NC is the same way.
No. I've had instances of chill doing 17 over the limit (72 in a 55). Basically FSD looks at the road, looks at the limit of 55 and goes "nah, that must be bad data, this is a road where the right lane and left lane are both doing over 65 so the limit must actually be 70" and then proceeds to go 2 over that limit. I know this is the case because when the speed limit goes up to 65 the car suddenly trusts the signs as close enough and slows down to 67.
No, the speed warning offset still exists but that's only for the warning chime and has nothing to do with FSD.
That's the speed warning offset and it's not an FSD setting. It tells the car what speed to play the speed chime at.
That's exactly where the problem is. It looks at roads that have low limits for how the road is and how slow traffic on the road moves and ignores the map and detected limit. It fairly frequently thinks my local 55mph highway actually is 70 and will go 72 even on chill. When the speed limit goes up to 65 it actually slows down because it no longer thinks the speed limit is an error.
See my response to tight squirrel. It explains the behavior clearly and it's based on the fact they don't have a reliable detection system or maps so they have to throw out the actual speed limit for their assumed limit to avoid issues when route 20 reads as a 20mph sign.
This is even more dangerous as it prevents you from being able to escape if you need to accelerate. It also can't be changed while driving.
There is no offset on v14. The only setting is the speed warning offset which is for the chime, not FSD.
Forget 33 percent. I've had hurry do 28 over in a 55. That's over 50 percent over the limit.
When I had to go to court, it was for felony reckless. Unless the rules have changed since 2019
There is no speed offset on v14. The only offset is for the chime not FSD functionality.
Oh hell no it doesn't. I did a 1250 mile road trip on 14.2.2.4 and 14.2.2.5 and I was constantly surrounded by traffic. Hurry was the fastest car on the road and standard was the slowest with no in between. It was literally jumping 17mph between standard and hurry.
Congratulations, that's 12, not v14. They took that away on v14 and it's a major safety problem they refuse to fix.
Yes, until Tesla fixes their broken shit.
*Reckless*
It happens pretty much any time the speed limit is significantly different from what a road like that normally is or when a speed limit is an unusual value. We have a 3 lane divided highway with big shoulders that would be 70mph most places but it's 55 and FSD just straight up ignores the limit and runs on the assumption it's a 70mph limit unless you're in sloth. Seems to be a "feature" they introduced to prevent problems when it sees a route 20 sign and suddenly thinks the limit is 20mph on a major highway.
I've driven through Virginia 60+ times cruising at 80 right past cops without issue.
Interesting, as an alternative, can't the driver roll the little wheel down to adjust their speed?
I can't find a single state that has had felony reckless driving for speed only. If you had compounding factors then it can be though. For example if they claim you were racing another vehicle or driving aggressively in addition to speed or if they argue your attempted to flee, then it can move up to felony. Causing injury is another frequent cause of stepping up to felony. Repeat instances also could be if you were previously ticketed for reckless driving. If it was a construction or school zone, that also triggers lower thresholds. As far as I know Virginia has generally been 20 over or 85+ for reckless driving, making NC even harsher on the books but enforcement tends to be looser in NC.
Well both of you fail to realize that speeding is speeding and it's officer discretion. So comments and experiences on a specific drive by trooper #104 that didn't bother with you excessively speeding is irrelevant.
I was moving with speed of traffic. At my speed I couldn't even be in the left hand lane. At that point 80 is only 10 over the limit and the left lane is doing 90.
I’d stick there for sure. Really wish I could rollback. Speed control and lane change decision making has taken a MAJOR step back
The road supports it, if they need slower speeds, you don't design your road like a race track. You put speed bumps and curves
In upstate NY, a lot of roads have the "End of XX mph zone" and Tesla sees it as a speed limit. So you might be on a highway, it says "End of 40mph zone" and Tesla thinks "ok, guess the speed limit is 40"
In one highway case the sign says minimum speed 40mph, which I get how it can be confused, but if you watch the rendering on the display, it actually shows the sign with the minimum speed text as it goes by. Same in other scenarios... the display processing sees and renders the sign correctly, but it doesn't update the limit to match.
That seems crazy! My Integra Type S rarely gets the sign reading wrong. I can’t believe that Tesla has such great software, except a few outliers
I couldn’t edit the post…😢
Again, try it on US 58 around South hill and Emporia. Try it on us 460 too!
Or, I don’t know, make it a user defined, optional addition to the software! Seems simple to avoid breaking laws.
I have a 26 Juniper and it is NOT false with my model
It’s definitely based on location. My FSD usage is at 98% for like 10k miles and this has happened to me twice but only 15 over on standard
But at 30 over the limit it may not be wreckless!
Be the best
Yeah. Reviewing it now, it seems you’re correct. It appears they upped it in 2020, which makes sense because my ticket was in 2019. However it does look like it’s a class 1 misdemeanor; you’re right. Thanks for the correction.
Are you still on v13 from the factory? It's still a thing on 13 but 14 has never had that. That includes 26 junipers which I know from personal experience driving my parent's juniper.
It would be a good thing. But the law is just an abstract thing made by a small group of people. It's just like speeding cameras. They were installed, at least here in Canada, they brought on 100s of thousands of dollar's every month, a nd they eventually got discontinued because it wasn't helping with the speeding. People and autonomous vehicles, or atleast tesla drive to the design and conditions of the road. But yes, FSD sucks even at recognizing the right speed limit
Before that update it actually stayed right where you set it. That was peak autopilot (not FSD) IMHO, before they made it vision only. The only times I had to correct it was if a car was crossing the highway a little too close in front of me, otherwise it was amazing on hiways. When I use Autopilot now I spend way more time babysitting it since it's always slowing down for corners on a straight road, or trying to take random turn lanes at 75mph on the hiway.
Ok, thanks for the correction
It’s only abstract until you get the summons for $300-500!
Np, I actually found out because I made the same mistake early on and someone had to correct me as well. I'm just paying it forward correcting the same mistake I made.
I’ll be driving from AZ to CA and was about to buy FSD for it. I just noticed my car is in V12 still. Soooooo…. Don’t upgrade it to the current version? Haha
Np, it's a very common misunderstanding. Some people are so convinced I actually did a test where I set it to the min and Max values and demonstrated it didn't impact speed at all.
FSD is leagues above autosteer in many ways, but there are areas autosteer is superior: - With autosteer you can set a speed and have the car drive exactly that speed, something FSD is incapable of doing. - Autosteer will stay in the lane you choose, something FSD is incapable of doing.
I will say it really bums me out too because I love how mad Max drives style wise, but locally (on highway) I'd be doing 30 over if I used it unless I'm in heavy traffic so I can rarely use it.
My first trip off the lot was to a McDonald's nearby. The default setting was mad max and I didn't know about settings at that time. It was amazing.
If you get a [S3XY commander,](https://www.enhauto.com/pages/commander) from Enhance Auto, it can automatically re-enable autosteer when you change lanes. It's called "continuous Autopilot". First you set autosteer to two-button activation so the car switches to cruise control if you turn the steering wheel. Then, if you had a turn signal on when you did that, it re-engages autosteer a set number of seconds after the turn signal stops. It's an excellent feature that should be part of autosteer by default.
I can sometimes use it for local roads where the speed settings work kind of better, but they are generally too slow on local roads vs highways so I'll sometimes be on mad Max and it will be doing 22 in a 25 which is also infuriating, but atleast the accelerator works reasonably well for holding increased speed on mad Max.
I guess it's different for me because I'm in a city?
Could be. Also if your highways have speed limits that match what the road looks like it's much, much better. We have very low highway speeds near me and this confuses FSD badly. My 1250 mile trip consisted of some areas it worked beautifully and others where I literally had to change speed profiles every 6 seconds because it was yo-yoing so violently between slower and faster than traffic. I had to adjust profiles 74 times within 30 minutes of leaving Orlando and I don't think I touched it once in the entire state of Virginia where the limit was 70 so I could just leave it on mad Max. I might have had to adjust for a construction zone once or twice, but that was it. Then 60mph sections in another state were so bad I actually used the accelerator instead of letting it manage speed at all for like an hour and a half.
I’ll have to verify next time I’m in the car, there could have been a change in versions but that’s one of the best things I liked about FSD was the fine tuning of each mode. I hope it wasn’t changed in an update.
Your problem is the 45mph speed limit. 68mph is a perfectly reasonable speed for a multi-lane divided highway.
It's certain road combinations. For me, there is a specific section of road with long term construction that is down to 55. The car shows the speed limit correctly, then proceeds to go 75 on Hurry and standard.
Report it every time. It’s the most ridiculous bug ever and feels like some rouse between Tesla and the cops.
What do you mean? You’re sitting right there?
Question: was everyone else around you going that speed? I’ve found in my 2023 M3P HW3 that when I’m in hurry mode it matches the relative speed of everyone around me. When I’m alone it goes the speed limit or BELOW! it’s odd to say the least
I cancelled my FSD after over a year. I was getting fed up with the speed discrepancies, often going way under the speed limit in hurry or mad max and with countless errors in the maps with incorrect speed zones.
that’s wack, idk why they’e remove it
FSD: Mad max behave on your driving patterns. so if you wonder why it makes quick lane changes it’s base on your driving fast 💨 on the highway.
Their stated reason is something about an automated system shouldn't require the user to adjust settings... So they removed the feature you could set and forget and replaced it with something that requires literally constant adjustment half the time. It is perhaps the greatest unforced automotive error in the history of the industry. It's absolutely absurd.
Considering how much FSD costs, you shouldn't have to do any of that. Is it really so difficult to allow us to set a driving speed separately from a driving profile (sloth, standard, Mad max)?
I have HW3 so no mad max mode. I’ve never heard about mad max mode learning from the drivers patterns, where are you getting that from?
True, but literally everything else (and it's a massive list) is better with FSD. And those two things aren't even simply negatives. They're just different. They have positive aspects too. With FSD, the idea is you just press a button and arrive at your destination. I don't worry about what exact speed it's driving at. Generally it hovers in an appropriate range anyway. And I don't worry about what exact lane I'm in. It picks the lanes it feels are best and generally does just fine handling traffic and getting me to my destination.
Not true anymore. > § 46.2-862. Exceeding speed limit. A person is guilty of reckless driving who drives a motor vehicle on the highways in the Commonwealth (i) at a speed of 20 miles per hour or more in excess of the applicable maximum speed limit or (ii) in excess of 85 miles per hour regardless of the applicable maximum speed limit. https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodefull/title46.2/chapter8/article7 [Changed July 1, 2020](https://wmmlegal.com/change-to-reckless-driving-in-virginia)
I remember going into the FSD settings and setting limits on certain speed limits at some point but maybe that’s changed with updates
In NC, 15 mph over in a zone that is 55 mph or higher is considered a class 3 misdemeanor and comes with a mandatory suspension of license for at least 30 days. I'm very careful when one of my trips takes me through there. FSD is not so careful.
NC is the worst but my parents live there and they said it's if you are over 15 over or over 80. 80 in a 65 won't hit you, but 81 will. Also the license suspension isn't enforceable out of state most places so you just can't drive in NC for 30 days after conviction. Still best to avoid it though.
In this trip, it didn’t matter what the traffic flow was. In hurry or standard, the car was always speeding.
Yup, and I cancelled and sent another message to the FSD team. Five months later, customers are still complaining about this shit! It’s a simple fix!
Multiple times on the way, will be multiple times on the way home!
Pro tip: don’t post pictures of you speeding online
I'm very certain of the law. 70 or more in a 55 can get your license suspended. Yes, there are places where police will ignore that or be lenient. Yes, I've seen people doing 80 in a 55 or 60 on I-85, but you can never depend on escaping the consequences. ETA: If you're out of state, your home state will apply whatever penalties based on their rules, but you can still be prohibited from driving in NC for 30 days and, because this is a criminal offense, appearing in court is mandatory. It's just not worth it.
Nah, my problem is lack of user defined max speed for each mode!
You are very certainly wrong. "(j1) A person who drives a vehicle on a highway at a speed that is either MORE THAN 15 miles per hour more than the speed limit established by law for the highway where the offense occurred or OVER 80 miles per hour is guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor."
You see how it says "Standard" and it's going too fast? Scroll down to "Chill" or "Sloth" and it will go slower. You have the ability to control the speed of the car, make sure you're using it!
Which part are you quibbling about?
80 in a 65 isn't a misdemeanor. 81 is. NC is exactly why I mentioned over 15 over or over 80 in my original post. You responded saying that NC was proof against my post but it was the cause of the numbers I gave originally. Virginia and NC both get pretty serious with their reckless driving enforcement. Virginia more so than NC, but NC has a more draconian definition. When you stay below that, enforcement is much more lax if you aren't driving stupid and traffic is at the same speed.
Nah, v14 is way better, Reddit just lives in a fan fiction world where a vocal minority drives the narrative. Every time someone in your shoes updates to v14 and then makes a post going "holy shit why did everyone make it sound so bad!? v14 is amazing!" I get a little more upset at the vocal minority for doing what they do.
80 in a 55 is 25 over. It is a class 3 misdemeanor. If you'd like, you can get me on the fact that it needs to be MORE THAN 15 over.
Lots of places have very different driving cultures and this is why solving the self-driving problem is so difficult. SR5 down here in SoCal has had a 55mph limit for years for construction and the average speed is like 82mph. If you do more than 7 over in my small hometown in the Midwest, you'll get pulled over every single time. Somehow FSD needs to know that.
Tesla removed it because v14 is going to be what the robotaxi uses. They want a completely automated control system. I get it, but it’s grossly irresponsible to allow the car to break the law without user input!
It’s funny I have a performance and yet FSD loooves treating it like a Prius lol
Whoops!
Yo, driver profile ain’t the problem. User defined max speed per profile is!!!! Sloth and chill are way too fucking slow! How hard is this for you to understand?
I’m accepting delivery of a MyP on Wednesday!
"It's going too fast" "Okay, so use a slower speed profile" "NO, sloth and chill are way too fucking slow!" Do you actually hear yourself? How hard is this for you to understand?
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>FSD was great until it was going almost 30 mph over in hurry and 23 mph over in standard! Okay, so use one of the slower speed profiles when that happens. >Yo, driver profile ain’t the problem. ...? It sure seems like that's the problem, you're literally complaining about it going too fast and the SPEED profiles are how you control that... >Sloth and chill are way too fucking slow! Okay, so speed profiles ARE the problem...? WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING MAN?
Complaining about speeding AND in the passing lane, shameless OP.
I really don't understand why so many people are so frustrated by this. In any given profile, if it's going faster than you want, then just scroll the wheel down to bump it to the next lowest profile. If that doesn't slow it down as much as you want then scroll a little more to bump it down to the next one. With either one or two bumps it will slow down where you want and then you can bump it right back up.
Standard with limit 80 works well for me but does get stuck behind slow drivers. Originally had limit 85 and when I first selected Hurry it went to 85 and I quickly lowered it. Only time I saw it go over my limit was when I was on Hurry and the car in the lane next to me was matching speed so it went to 83 to pass it so I could get over 2 lanes to exit.
Ya I liked the old FSD style telling it a hard number and if it needed to change it changed but this one it’s like “eh i decide what is a good speed for you”
A cop once posted here, nine you’re fine 10 you’re mine…
Max speed was removed in v14
You can’t while driving
I turned off Mad Max mode the other day when it went over 81 on the highway, it's not that fast considering the limit is 65, but it's enough to get a ticket.
If you go into the safety settings not under autopilot but literally just the safety settings. You can set a max speed in there that works great for long road trips. It will not go over whatever you set. Only downside is you get a text/notification on your phone every single time the car reaches that speed
They behave drastically different
I’ve commented about this previously and the latest update doesn’t address it. Same with how closely it follows cars bordering on illegal tailgating that also increases chance of having windshield damage from kicked up road debris. I seriously wonder the level of common sense and intelligence of Tesla programmers and whether they actually drive the cars they program for.
It's far less than that if you're not one of the fastest on the road. They want the bigger tickets. I should clarify this mostly is valid on major interstates where there's people doing 20 over or more regularly. State roads or more minor interstates will be a problem if nobody is going 18+ over and you decide to go 15 over. Going with speed of traffic is an important caveat for my initial statement.
Each setting is completely different. Chill does -5 to the speed limit. Normal will do anywhere from +3 to + 10. Hurry will do 10-18+ and I don’t have the balls not the will to get arrested, so I haven’t even tried mad max.
Going 30 over is good to keep away from all the idiot drivers who loving swerving in their lanes being distracted. Drive slightly faster than traffic and get to your destination. Every second your slow or have vehicles behind you or on the side of you you are at risk of a accident, don't play with those people out there get to your destinations and get back home, i'd rather risk maybe a ticket than getting into an accident, total lossing my Tesla , or having to spend the rest of the day on the phone with insurance companies taking pictures and finding out about a rental car until my repairs are complete IF they don't hit and try and run I don't even have insurance to begin with
Then pick your poison. Criminal speeding ticket or Max speed. Seems like the only options at the moment.
My poison may be another car brand if they don’t bring max speed back
So I hit the accelerator, not the end of the world, but still annoying.
It knows what the speed limit is. Seems like it would be an easy fix.
I am too in amazement how smart/stupid this Tesla design group is!!!
Doesn’t this limit the overall speed of the car?
No it doesn’t… standard is too slow, hurry is too fast! What do you do? How hard is this to understand?
Gosh, you people are stupid! The profiles don’t work the way that I intend to use the car. A simple fix is a user defined speed limit! The profiles aren’t the problem, speed control is! Where I live, +15 is too fast, +7 is too slow! Fix that with a user profile doesn’t do what you want it too and then it gets you a reckless driving ticket! Can you understand that?
Doesn’t that limit the car to that speed? What happens if I need to go 90?
I want to supervise the FSD because it goes too fast? … in FSD(Supervised) You have a problem with this?
I do exactly what I said. If I'm in a particular profile that's going too fast, I just bump it down. That slows it down. When I bump it back up it might speed up just a little bit but it doesn't go nearly as fast as it was prior to the bump down.
Try it with passengers and see how they like you switching profiles! So much simpler to give us a user defined max setting for each FSD profile. I need to find the guy that designed this software and send him these photos. He’s got to be smart enough to see the problem.
Yeah, you can, with a different speed profile. Or by turning it off, slowing down, and turning it back on.
Are you sure that was the actual posted speed? Sometimes my car shows my road being 25 mph but it's actually 55. I think it's a dead zone for service.
>Where I live, +15 is too fast, +7 is too slow! You're telling yourself this, but it's just not true. I promise you plenty of people drive differently than this where you live and it's perfectly fine. You're trying to micromanage something that's not meant to be micromanaged. Can you imagine getting mad that an elevator went too fast or too slow instead of just being happy you're defying gravity without any effort whatsoever? That's what's going on here. We're in the 0.1% of people who don't even have to drive anymore and you're mad that it's going \~2mph slower than you prefer.... talk about first world problems.
This was the exact final straw for me. It was going 55 in a 35 when I finally disengaged it. I find the FSD both amazing and terrifying.
I feel like during disparities with speed limit signs and map data, or a change in speed limit, there is some kind of averaging where the cap is a combination of both speeds
Nah my dad is different. Speed limit 65 and in standard mode it will go 72, hurry and mad max mode it'll go 79 to 83 mph
Lol, I do it all the time with passengers. They don't even notice.
Do we just send the tickets to Tesla to pay them?
It's absolutely crazy how there is no user control for speed when FSD is in control. Sure we set it to 75, but it will choose anything between 0-100 with no way for us to prevent it. So many stupid decisions with such easy solutions, starting to think they like us pulling our hair out.
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This has been happening to me as well. I also find it going 10 under for unknown reasons at inopportune times
Good question, since it is supervised, still a user problem without a solution. Going to a slower profile is not the way!
Well, the car belongs to the passenger and she knows how the car drives! Glad your passengers are clueless!
That’s the problem, in your scenario, I’d like the car to do 74-76! In parts of VA, 79 will get you a summons, 80 will get you jail time!
Does it matter? the car thinks it’s 45 and it’s doing more than 20 mph over. That’s jail time in Va!!!!
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Says who? In some jurisdictions, 30mph over the speed limit is mandatory jailtime.
23 over unlikely jail time. 30 over depends on the cop.
lol you aren’t going to be jailed for doing a little over 70 on that type of road. You work a lot with spreadsheets don’t you lol
You don’t live in Va, do you? Almost 30 mph over the speed limit will most certainly land you in jail!
Wouldn't it be great if we could, umm, I don't know...SET A SPEED??? WTF
I’m frustrated that I have that I paid for FSD yet have resorted to using TACC with lane keep (beta auto steer) as that is what actually works. Just stay in a lane, keep a speed, and don’t hit a car in front of you.
I agree v14 is so much better. My first Tesla is a juniper, my car is currently at the center getting some blemishes fixed so I was given 2021 Y loaner. The loaner is on v12 and it’s so bad compared to v14.
Is the speed actually 45 in that area? If so just change the speed profile to chill and it will go down to that speed
so in fact, your car is the one that sucks?
Seems consistent among ‘26 Model Ys. If yours isn’t acting the same, then, …
Dude, I’m not trying to change profiles every fucking time! Here’s another… https://preview.redd.it/giuc76z7vung1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f78af2664fd5273db5a056e95b430e52200efa43
I’ll still use FSD because it’s awesome, just needs tweaks…
Yes - I’m so sick of it. And the idiots in this place they defend this shit.
The only thing I don’t like about FSD is the last minute freeway exit. It’ll change to the far left lanes just to merge back to the far right to exit. Too close for my comfort.
That's genuinely how I feel about FSD 12, too, but most people are talking about v13.2.9 being better than v14, and that's only true in that it's smoother with the things it does well, but isn't nearly as capable overall.
In standard, mine drives 75mph through construction zones that are 50mph, it's insane. If I change it to chill, it would slam on the brakes.
Yes puts it in permanent “Chill” mode untill you turn it off. That’s why I said for long highway road trips it works well other then that not so much
I haven’t had it go that low on my HW3
That's interesting, since I use autosteer at 130 on the highway (110 km/h) and Mad Max risks a ticket by creeping up as high as 137.
Fsd is not comfortable on any setting on the highway. It always brakes last min. Cannot predict the next movements and act on it well for highways
Right your opinion is different therefore other opinion is vocal minority… Speed control and lane change decisions are a regression from V13.
Not really, highway travel will sometimes need bursts of speed to avoid getting squished by trucks and what not! Had +22 on the way home today! Definite reckless there
This is the problem, my better half was ready to throttle me by the time we got home from changing profiles to arrest the speeding.
Amazing, the people that are still die hard FSD supporters with this level of criticism. We must be a small minority, I guess!
Interesting. My 24 model 3 refuses to do over 50 in a 45 in standard.
Today’s travels… https://preview.redd.it/91dsdotaswng1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa3a34d9ed7163b2d6b1838e2331e404796beab3
Isn't that what the offset is for?
why is the recommended max offset 40%? isn't that insanely fast?
wait is this real? I've never used that
sure is, you set the upper speed limit to whatever you want.
I just want it to stay in the same lane I choose
Is that Rt 64? Just wondering where it’s 45 on a long straight like that. Mine also ignores speed limits. Most of the time it’s okay, but occasionally decides it’s Mad Max no matter what I set the mode to.
Us 58 - Va beach to South hill! Here’s another where standard is doing 15 over https://preview.redd.it/5yifngkij0og1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=913010ca528efa24327d106635999bcfb40d9709
Use the blinker, it will stay there unless FSD is trying to pass. I was attempting to use this technique to arrest the speeding the car was doing, but another fail and another criticism from my better half driving her car. The speeding this weekend was horrendous! I wish one of these assholes would drive US 58 at 20 over every day for a month and see how long it takes to goto jail!!
is it per-road? like I can set 25-45 in city driving and then it'll still go 70 on freeway?
no
"I am just following the traffic, keeping things going." -- FSD.
I turn the percentage to 5 percent and it doesnt speed at all hardly
FSD would suck if it did this. The speed limit data is usually wrong. Also, almost no one here in Texas respects construction speed limits, so having FSD slam on its brakes to slow down is bad.
Set your limit to go 25 over then. I’ve lived in DFW and I’m well aware of how people drive in bigger cities like that. I’d still prefer to go off of speed limit signs and give me the ability to set my speed +5,10,15,etc.
It's also a chronic tailgater on the freeway which is pretty stressful. Had multiple times where the FSD had to start braking because it was getting way too close to the car in front.
Is this for HW4 only? Because I still have these settings in the new update on the 6th.
When you’re in FSD, the right scroll wheel does not set the max speed, it changes the setting (standard, hurry, etc) In the menu you can set the max speed+ override but that’s not something you’re going to adjust in that menu while driving.
Chilll or sloth would fix that…..
Then the car doesn’t know how to drive itself! What about speeding don’t you get? I like the way the hurry profile drives, I don’t like the speed it does! That gets you tickets or jail time in Virginia! Chill and sloth behaves in a manner that I do not like and goes way too fucking slow! I want hurry with speed control! Get it yet?
Can’t have it both ways, they took away custom speed controls. We have profiles now that behave a certain way speed wise, if you don’t like the speeding, change the profile. Just sayin.
I’m saying, it’s not good enough and the speed profiles are inconsistent to straight reckless including following distance. Until Tesla can figure it out, I’d like to ‘supervise’ my car to maintain a speed I’m comfortable with.
You always have control, just turn off FSD. If you want it to not go so fast “do not use hurry or mad max” stay in sloth or chill and enjoy the ride.
No! FSD is the reason to have these cars! It just will get you a ticket. Standard is going 15 over, and I’ll mention it again, chill and sloth are too slow. The car isn’t smart enough to control the speed to avoid tickets, what’s the harm in giving the driver the option of letting the car decide or the owner! Car logic is flawed and unpredictable of speed control. I’m not!!
https://preview.redd.it/pkcb02u6tgog1.jpeg?width=2442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=26a82af543f201081c110d78a64118cf81e8c1b3 Should have been here for v11 KARR was completely different now I can ride nine hours and not speed and not touch the steering wheel.
What speed were the other cars going? It likes to match the pace of other traffic a lot of times. Also, you can always move it back to chill or sloth - then go back to standard if you want to go faster - this usually reduces the standard speed too end.
Personally, I love v14 and it's been a lot better than v13 was for me. I haven't done a safety disengagement with v14, and I've got over 10k miles, including a 15 hour road trip with only 3 interventions - all for parking at super chargers.
In some cases, no traffic to follow!
Keeping up with traffic
My settings don’t do any of that. It’s always random. Settings make zero difference on mine.
I loathe this. I can explain 8 miles or something over the speed limit but this is crazy. I miss when they had the option to toggle to minimal lane changes. 40% offset is too much.
Me too, I like to drive fast but observe a strict +11 adherence to speed limits.
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