The "Daily Cost" isn't the reason people don't want to sign up guys 🤦

I just want max speed back

This is becoming out of touch Tesla wtf, give us $20 a month

I would pay $49/month. No more.

Okay then let me pay $3 when I need it lol

My limit would be 50 and even then, I would only subscribe if I had a lot of driving planned. At 20/month I'd probably permanently subscribe.

For HW3

My car hasn't had a FSD update in over 12months Why pay for something that's not supported ? l

HW3 and lower should definitely have a lower price

$3 a day whether you use it or not. If you could pay $3 a day to use it, I probably would because I don’t do many long road trips.

Drop the price by a bit

Just gotta wait it out for V14 lite in Q2 of 2026

Who buys coffee out every day? Ridiculous statement to make to try and bait me to buy.

Yeah $3 a day is actually quite a lot

Quite a bit

I don’t drink coffee and I don’t have any other luxury things I’m spending $3/day on.

At least lower than Rivan UHD.

idk. I gladly pay it but I'm sure they'd get a lot more buyers at the $50 price point

And minimal lane change

I wouldn’t pay more than 99 tbh

I would pay $3 on days I choose to use fsd. But not $99 a month because sometimes I forget I subbed.

I’ve found it most useful for long road trips but at the same time autopilot does just fine on long highway stretches too. I’m honestly surprised they haven’t “tiered” it yet… e.g. $20 for 24 hours, $99 for a month, or $899 for a year

Too poor to burn $3 a day.

tons of people do

Ive been paying it for about 6 months since it somehow randomly signed me up and it was so good now that I've kept it. Only downside is more and more for my driving job between houses very short 1 block drives I rarely use it and lately stopped is not it as I need to be on phone while driving and the alerts almost time.

Yup

I would easily do 100 if it was truly hands off.

Depends, if you drive a lot of miles per day to work and then errands or your business, FSD has helped me be less tired after a lot of driving.

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“Pay $3 a day to supervise our sw. if it makes mistakes, it’s on you though.”

You're eating into my fuel efficiency, sir 😂 Zero emossions, but I got 4 subscriptions for you. 

49.99

imo Tesla pushing this wayyyyyyy too hard. FSD is good but it’s not everything

FSD sub cost is going to price drop. What was the goal 10 million? And they hover currently around 1 million? So they have to boost subscriptions by 10x. Only way you do that is by price dropping. Now by how much? Well they going have to find a point where the increase subscription count revenue outdoes the decrease in subscription price.

#But your daily coffee costs more!!!

$3 a day for something I don't want isn't exactly a good deal. Call me when it works adequately, and then we can talk.

They should just start charging by time of use

This is the biggest reason I will not buy another Tesla. Once my M3 goes out, I’m not going back.

I like this guys thinking

How many months has version 12.6.4 been released? Maybe release a new version and more people would subscribe.

I prefer driving my car on a day to day basis. Long road trips are the only time I’d consider using autopilot or FSD.

I paid the full 8k for my 2026 m3 so i didnt have to worry about subscription one and done.

Ye $3 for a cup of coffee is still robbery.

Why would I spend $3 a day on coffee? I have a coffee machine at home, it is so cheap it is practically free. Dumbfucks.

I would pay triple if necessary.

Why? It’s worse than rivians UHF in every single way possible - why would they have to lower the price to be LESS than an inferior product?

I just want auto park

Makes me more nervous than my wife driving, not worth the high blood pressure.

I meant the other way around for FSD lower price than Rivan UHF but it still leagues ahead.

Heck I’d pay $3 a drive to have it on anything over 45 mins

Max speed to + 10 over please. Oh and if they raise the price I’m out.

For HW4. HW3 I'd pay max $29.99/mo.

$5 for 24 hours of use and I’m there! I would probably have a $20-30 budget for it in that case needing it only 4-6 times a month

If FSD was $2500 I’d buy. Maybe $5000 with some additional enhancements, the most recent update was the best test I’ve had thus far

I know people with a Tesla you couldn’t pay THEM $99 to use it. They don’t want to and don’t trust it. They wanted lane keeping only which Tesla took away. Now this luxury car has fewer features than anything comparable so now Tesla is losing those customers. I’m sorry but it isn’t only price keeping people from it. They nerfed the incentive for that segment.

i drink coffee like twice a week can yall lower it to that

you’d be suprised

I use it every time I drive which is pretty much every day except the occasional lazy holiday.

$99 a month is totally worth it.

Same, about to patent the idea

If it was actually full self driving then it would be worth it

I'd pay $20/mo for EAP. I'll never pay another dime for FSD. I don't care for it. EAP is all I want.

If I could nap in the car I’d pay $100

FSD works best for daily driving. I find standard autopilot better for long road trips.

I'd pay that for eap, forget fsd on hw3

Perhaps the most useless feature I’ve ever experienced

I personally don’t want my 100 year old grandma driving me. Maybe 30 years driving experience is better than

And they blamed millennials for their daily cafe coffee.

Let's not encourage the development of a renters serf economy where we own nothing and rent everything.

I did. $130 a month in just coffee. Kicked it and another subscription service and now saving $230 a month 🤣

It should be free until it’s eyes off L4

I’ll pay $19.99 for it but for $100 I’ll continue keeping my hands on the wheel and foot on the pedals.

Can we do the daily rate subscription $3/day instead?

I’ve owned my Tesla since 2020. I think I’ve used FSD maybe a total of 5 times. I live in a rural area. No shoulders to roads. Just ravines & ditches on the sides. I don’t need it running me off the road, etc. I’ve driven tractors, sat in my grandpa’s lap as a kid, all kinds of things pertaining to driving. I was driving a tractor and a farm truck at 8. Love the Tesla but I want to be in control of the driving.

I'm still waiting for the wiper fix

You guys complain like they are forcing you to buy it at gun point …

It will never be free because of the billions it costs to power it and develop it. Lower, sure.

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Once it becomes UNSUPERVISED FSD than I can justify paying a $100 a month. When I'm able to take a nap and have my car drive me or be on my laptop or phone in my backseat while my car drives me like the robotaxi does now we're talking.

Hey, no problem let me shell out 60 grand for your car and then still pay you $100 a month for life…🤬

For 24 hours of chauffeur?

For just 3 dollars a day, you can feed one starving billionaire

This. If only fsd would just stray in one freaking lane and stop all that damn lane changing on a long trip.

But it IS the reason a lot of us does sign up… imagine it being $30 a day

Robotaxi is $0.50 to $3.50 a mile depending on the traffic and area. I assume they'll adopt this.

24 hours of chauffeur? How? I still am responsible for anything that happens and I still need to be focused all the time? When I have chauffeur I can sleep when I want, watch a movie when I want.

I drive 170 miles daily round trip on highway and mountain roads for a 6 month seasonal job (no way would I do this commute year round but it’s a skiing job so there’s a trade off). I subscribe for FSD half the year. It works well and I was skeptical at first about how it lessens fatigue, particularly after a long day in the mountain. But it absolutely does. I don’t use it much around town but for a 85mi one way commute it’s awesome!

I’d think about it for to $999/year…definitely would get it for $50/month… My 2 months trial just ended, and auto steering sucks! That it disconnects when you’re changing lanes stupid. The graphics without FSD suck too…maybe it’s a way to make you keep FSD

This cause I have Tesla insurance and it would be cheaper to use FSD to get a perfect driving score lol then to drive on my own

FSD should come with Premium Connectivity and maybe more people would sign up.

I feel like autopilot has gotten way worse lately? Probably to make you move to fsd? Mine is constantly beeping at me even if I’m paying attention. It hits the brakes hard if a car brakes even like 20 feet ahead

Im in the minority it seems, but 99 is reasonable and has been an amazing service for me. If you can spend 40-50k on a Tesla, but 99 a month is too much, then ya probably couldn't afford your Tesla to begin with

This is not attractive until Tesla will assume all liability for accidents while in FSD.

Hell, even if they charged $5 for a 24 hour FSD day pass I would jump all over that a couple times a month, easily. Edit: or as others have stated $49/month would be reasonable. If they offered both options, they would surely have significantly more casual users.

Lower than HW3 can’t even get it.

I have enhanced autopilot and it would be $49.99 a month for me. But with enhanced autopilot you don’t really need it

The last free trial and a recent loaner proved to me this is amazing technology that actually works. The previous versions were scary and frustrating. It has come a long way. I am sure the next few updates will be even better and safer. I think offering a few different subscription options would be beneficial and get more people on board. A yearly subscription option. I thought they were going to do this but have not seen it available yet. I read it was going to be $1,000 per year but that is too expensive. It should be more like $750. Monthly should be $75.00. 14 days should be $50.00. This way you can appeal to people with different needs and incomes. Offering it for just a day or even a week seams like more of a pain to administer for Tesla. Plus your goal is for as many vehicles to have this in operation 24/7. You do not want to incentivize people to not have it monthly or yearly which is a better business model.

I like that. I’d pay for it when in shit ass traffic

Time for us to stop supporting Tesla. They got rid of the option to buy FSD and they completely got rid of autopilot to push more people to subscribe to FSD. Stop subscribing and they will fix it.

I mean, I don't spend $3/day on coffee, either, and who budgets daily? But even if I did, I'd spend it on days I need a coffee... I wouldn't pay $99/month for a subscription and then hope I need a coffee 33 times a month

unless someone offers it free or someone develops an open source equivalent, it will remain that way. In early 00s, Sun microsystems used to sell commercial hardware that runs the website for several $$$. Then linux and running commercial grade services on consumer hardware revolution happened (via google and others) and now anyone can host a website for next to nothing. I wish CommaAI can do some of the features like taking turns and auto lane change equivalents.

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

It’ll be free and standard equipment within 15 yrs

I have HW2.5 and the FSD computer. I’ve used both trial periods and can subscribe no problems.

Maybe when it will be real self-driving

FSD is the reason you won't buy a Tesla? FSD being $99/month? Or something else?

What if you would only use fsd once or twice a month though. Still worth $99 to use it twice?

I’m on hw3. I’d pay 50 tops.

Comparing the cost to a cup of coffee isn’t the flex it used to be. Pretty much any financial advisor will tell you the first thing to cut from any budget would be trips to Starbucks.

It's the same concept as paying for Nextflix or Prime, the cost may not seem worth it if I only watch one movie a month either

Coffee is the *worse* thing you could’ve chosen. Hell I f I had a daily commute I’d probably be one of them.

FSD Rocks!

If they insist on charging 100 a month they should charge per mile that it’s used up to $100 a month cap. That way if I only use it once in a while, I don’t need to pay a full $100 a month

Same goes with me I too have EAP and my cost is 49.99 but in true means I really don’t like getting it as much work already done by EAP.

Great! Can we pay by daily then instead of by monthly?

noooo because then they'll charge something stupid like $5.99 for a day pass, then later say "well we're bumping it up to $120 to keep it in line with the day pass pricing but still offering a discount"

My coworker paid $9 for a Starbucks the other day and hated it. lol

billionaire way of thinking

Car that drives for me for $99!? I’d pay more.

You forgot the asterisk: *Prices are subject to change at any time.

The daily cost absolutely is a reason people don't want to sign up. If I didn't own it already, I wouldn't pay $3 a day. That's more than my cellphone bill and almost as much as my Internet bill and I get a hell of a lot more use out of those. It's still a supervised system and I only drive 10-20 miles most days so it's more expensive than the entire rest of the cost of the vehicle per mile at $100 a month.

Billions to pay Elon you mean.

Give people a $10/day option. Or better yet 10c/min Let's do micro transactions and a battle pass while we're at it

I wouldn't pay $3 a day to constantly have to change speed profiles to try to get it to drive a reasonable speed for the 20 miles I drive on an average day.

Wrong. My daily coffee is $0.25. Which is $7.75 a month

What is this?

Not sure where this is, but I completed over 15K miles in self driving and there have been no issues so far with the exception of snow. The most annoying thing at this point is Tesla's own nagging every time you glance at the screen to control something or select a song.

Make it 3 dollars a day as you use it. If I don't drive 15 days out of a month then charge me 45.

I just drove 400 miles entirely on FSD (including parking at a charging stall) I’ll take FSD over standard autopilot any day of the week

I would like to start a money pot saying we won’t see this “update” until Q1 2027

SAME

Hey, did you know that only $3 per day adds up to $99 per month?!

Never enjoyed driving like some others, so this feature has been huge for me

... I can only give up that cup of coffee once a day. Which I already did because I do coffee at home *TO NOT SPEND $100 EVERY MONTH ON COFFEE*. Stop trying to help me rationalize spending a day or more's income on a luxury. I've got two hours a month to give you. That's the budget.

Pay $3 to sit in anxiety while a computer drives me; a computer its which gets all its data about the world from a bunch of low res webcams… then as I sit there while it slams into all the potholes, ruining my wheels? No thanks! If Elon wants me to pay for it, he needs to become a massive left socialist.. and advocate for policies which work for the good of society so we can pay for public resources to fix roads and make them nice and smooth for his robocars.

That would be a great thing

Like AOL.

2 weeks

My daily coffee costs about 18 cents at home. Make FSD $50 per month or you can keep it, thanks!

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Prime at $140/yr is a steal compared to $1200 for FSD.

Drip coffee master race 

It will be free/included in the vehicle purchase price just as soon as every Ford Chevy and Toyota cone with it which is probably much sooner than we all think.

My model 3 sits idle at least 300 days a year, in the winter whole months go by as it enjoys the comfort of the garage. Not worth it at half the price.

Commute 5 days/week, $3/day, $59 per month and I'd consider it

I rarely drive far so FSD per month isn’t worth it. But I’d drop 20 for a long distance trip. I’d bet they’d make more money

Make it pay as you drive and not a monthly subscription.

Or, hear me out, I pay $99 then Tesla credits me $3 every 30mi I drive with it fully active, as long as data sharing is fully enabled. With a monthly cap of $99 credit. You get your precious FSD data. I get taken to and from work while supervising it. Everyone wins.

" $99 per Month is Around $3 a Day. Your daily unsealed jar of Bull Ants, that end up all crawling over your body to bite you, simultaneously, and cause you seering pain, could cost more than that. "

Got FSD when I bought the car. FSD is the reason I wanted a Tesla. Couldn’t imagine buying the car and then not getting the software to run it.

That advertisement seems kinda desperate. I pay when I need it not because it’s convenient for Tesla. Also if I add up the coffee I have at both home and work it’s about $.66 a day.

Joke's on you, that's already the case.

I literally just read that email. Not only do I not drink/buy coffee everyday. I don’t even spend money everyday. It cost you even if you don’t use it so this was a bad comparison. I’ve had FSD for free for months but I’ve haven’t been using it much in this harsh Michigan Winter we’re having and I don’t see myself adding that much of an expense when my free trial is over. Cut the price in half and I might consider it.

 As soon as they drop it

Just give me a half-off one year prepay deal and I'm all over it.

You used to be able to set the maximum speed in FSD, like a traditional cruise control. Now you just pick from some speed profiles and hope it doesn't land you a ticket 😅

I'll sign up after they give me a 1 month free trial!

Serf or die

Yeah, I want to own my stuff and not feel like I threw away money became I didn't use a feature I rented for a month.  Imagin buying a macbook, then having to rent the OS on top of the huge price I paid just to use it. Insane

Even in AUD thats pushing it for me. It can't cost more than my phone plan whuch is half that.

But that would be u fair to all the people who paid $10k /s

I'd even settle for 16 hours. Ie a waking day. Mostly to avoid a weird overlap. Use it at 8am one morning and 7:50am the next morning followed by a warning about payment 10 min later.

"I'm allergic to coffee, so its free for me right?"

I am very frustrated with the horribly inconsistent speed the car drives in FSD. It cannot be that hard to program. I am also getting frustrated with the car getting onto freeway or pulling out onto a busy road and poking along slowly speeding up to the speed limit. Especially when the on ramp is limited in length.

Yeah I'd prefer the machine I paid for once outright. I got a very expensive machine for its quality but its worth it for good coffee I was promised and to avoid ongoing costs if I use it or not. (This is a metaphor for FSD)

I decided to buy FSD for a month. I enjoy it but I don’t use it literally all the time. I went ahead and unsubscribed today since I will have it into mid-March. They asked why I unsubscribe, I said too expensive. I’m just not ever going to consistently subscribe until they drop the monthly to at least half of the current price.

Its for Elons pay package.

I demo drove a X Plaid the other day for fun and had a little tear in my eye when I saw max speed adjustment for FSD

Yeah at that I could maybe justify it. Send it all day running erends. Oh my friend needs to get to the shops. I'll send my car cos I'm at work.

What speed profile do you use? If I’m on standard or less, it makes almost no unnecessary lane changes

I have too many subscriptions already, I can drive myself, thank you.

Elon is desperate for his pay package.

Yeah it seems that way. The value isn’t there for a lot of us.

I buy whole beans super cheap and make coffee myself. Probably less than a quarter per cup. Can I pay that per day?

f “full self driving”. now added the word supervised. i bought fsd w my 2020 S performance and its got hw3. phantom braking, will run into the curb, only dumb summon that will engage the garage door halfway out, like what the f elon! i did not get full self driving and the car never will be. so owning it or renting it is so stupid.

It was still on v13??

Strong disagree. Every time you need to switch lanes autopilot disengages triggering the regenerative breaking which is super annoying. During lane merges, autopilot swerves to stay “in the middle” of the two lane merges which is unsafe and uncomfortable. FSD is much smarter about it. The only thing it’s missing is manual speed limits - I am shocked Tesla removed those. Even “standard” fsd speed 7mph over the limit and doesn’t even recognize construction zones half the time and doesn’t respect the reduced speed limit so it can go a solid 25-30mph over posted limit which is wild to me

I have a ‘23 model 3 and can adjust max speed in FSD with the right scroll on the wheel.

What hardware are you on? For those of us on V12 there are some annoyances. Overall I think it’s great, but I prefer autopilot on long highway drives because I can relax more and don’t have to police the unnecessary lane changes.

Yup! It had less than 50 miles on it. It was on v13.2.9 I figured it out in the first few seconds when it nagged me hardcore for my phone being in my hand for a second lol. The SA said they stay on that version for 10 days, after that it'll get updated to the newest version

Wow that should be something under your control lol. If it’s supervised let me supervise it haha

Gotta have those sunnies. Without them FSD is constantly nagging. With autopilot I can block the camera all together.

Comma does do lane changes very easily

It is for me.

The problem is it's not programmed. It's trained. AI isn't simple to alter.

On a Tesla based on your indicator?

If it was $50 a month I would consider it but $100 is asking too much. & btw idk anyone who buys coffee every day for $3. I get my coffee for the big big price of $0 (FREE!) at work

Totally agree with you on those points. FSD is so much smarter on merging lanes, and it doesn’t slam in the brakes when a car crosses your path 200 feet away like autopilot does. But on my software if the I have it set two pulls for autopilot I can take the wheel and change lanes without breaking the cruise control. I actually still have the speed limits due to old software. But the lane changes can be really annoying, and there’s no way to turn them off.

Which I believe you also do have to subscribe to

I'm looking forward to the future where I can send my car to pick up my kids from school or practice or drive them to where they want to go without me needing to do it all the time, drive me home from a long day of work where I can just unwind in the backseat without the stress of driving home in traffic, drive me long road trips while I just take a nap similar to a long flight or watch a movie, have the option of using it as my own robotaxi to make money if I want. It can even be our designated driver when we've had one too many drinks. All these and I'm sure many more for others would make the $99 worth it but right now it does none of these things so prefer to drive it myself w

true, but if you can't afford the car. Your going to still be manully driving. Even if you have the car, if you don't have 1.2k to spare, your still not going to be able to afford it. meanwhile I can get a 1k box that works with most cards that were made in the last decade, and doesn't require a subscription.

Lowkey a genius idea, if I could rent it day to day for $3 I’d definitely use it a few times a month. Maybe they could even slide you a deal to rent it for the whole week.

This comment section is hilarious

I’d even heavily consider it at $75 a month, $100 just feels like way too much when my insurance is $180.

Then let me buy it for $3 a day if I feel like it using it that day.

I’m sure if they only charged $20 a month, most Tesla owners would pay for it - and the company would profit more than it does currently through FSD subscriptions and sales

$49 is an instant buy for me. $99- I slightly consider it but pass. If it was $119- wouldn’t even cross my mind.

$20 a month is not happening. $50 maybe

Is it just me or does 100 years of driving experience seem low?

Oh I know it’s not, but my point remains.

Yes let's get some weekly plans going

Even $5 for 24 hours of use would be helpful

They should totally do a 3$ per drive deal. I would use it occasionally.

I’m specifically boycotting because they cancelled the own for life of the vehicle option

That’s too much.

Id pay that to parallel park. Lol.

Why we talking about affordability? It’s a luxury to have FSD, even a Tesla. As I alluded to, specifically those who drive a lot or for their business. If the person can’t afford it, the question is if the person can afford a Tesla? Or is the person stretching to obtain a premium vehicle? If the person doesn’t like FSD pricing then it just doesn’t bring enough value.

Yes, stock openpilot requires a nudge on the wheel and the indicator IIRC, but forks like sunnypilot can be configured to change lanes immediately or after a set delay after putting on the indicator.

Nope! I own the land I live on! Definitely not the bank I pay a mortgage too or the property tax I pay….

Death by a thousand paper cuts.

Only $0.125 per hour!

lol…ultimate insurance policy. Sounds so entitled for a $99 subscription.

I’ll never pay subscription for anything. All they do is continually increase the cost. Pay cash up front in full for everything is the only way to go.

someone stealing 3$ a day is not fun when you dont die for next 300k days

> Offering it for just a day or even a week seams like more of a pain to administer for Tesla. It would be entirely automated, what administration is needed?

A lot less people subscribe to FSD than you were anticipating, Tesla? Fucking womp womp for you, I guess. $100 a month is ridiculous, especially if you have HW3.

Sold

I subscribed August 15 and have used it every day since. it has eyes in the back of its head as well as both sides. It never blinks. It doesn’t get tired. It doesn’t get distracted. It has instant reflexes compared to my two second perception reaction time of an old man. Soon I will let someone else own9 the car and I will just let it drive me .

This is already the case. You're purchasing a license to use FSD, essentially, and in exchange they use the funds to continuously train it.

They removed the ability to fix it's speed when on the highway and it misreads. Also they removed the ability to 'stay out of the left lane' option. It's gotten worse to the point the highway driving today was dangerous. It kept slamming the breaks because it was wrong about the speed limits. I did it this month because we had a long drive and we just ended up not using it because it was dangerous. Idk what changed, I had it like half a year ago with the above options and it was fine. They're making their product worse

Yeah this should be an option. I don’t drive enough to make it worth it to pay $100, but paying per day/mile/minute/whatever that I actually use FSD would make sense for me.

They removed the max speed control in FSD v14. You must be on v13

I love my FSD. Use it well over 95% of the time. It’s brilliant. Well worth the monthly.

Definitely. Until Tesla will pay my ticket, I should have control over the speed. They already acknowledge you need some control (speed profiles) so it’s a painfully arbitrary choice to remove max speed, and makes FSD much less usable for me.

No. I’m a hw3 car so v12. But that makes sense if you have v14. Personally I wish it would stay at 85 and FSD on the highway it like to slow down to 79-80 and I have to remind it that it’s in a “hurry” mode

Everybody wants my daily coffee. Wikipedia, netflix, spotify, ronald mcdonald charity, sounds like i need a daily bucket of coffee

The obvious solution, imo, is to break apart speed profiles into a few settings like lane change freq, max speed, lane preference, following distance, etc. They’d get valuable training data from it too 😢

lol yea I’m sure there are a lot of things I’ve gotten used to be being much better in v14, but gosh darn would I pay extra to get max speed back

The problem isn’t the lack of $99, it’s that FSD doesn’t provide $99 of value to me.

yes, I nominate him/her/they to run Tesla!

Ahh, I had typed “v13 or prior” but deleted ha. V14 is “better” about going faster, but now you either get 62-67 (it’s choice) on standard profile, or 72-78 on hurry profile, when you’re on open 60mph freeways. If I could pick hurry and max it at 70, I’d be golden. As-is it’s very frustrating

HW4 on Model 3. Sorry, should have clarified. I don't know how it works on HW3 -- my friend with a HW3 Model 3 refuses to try it out haha

Not worth $99

I’m a slave working at Rahn Jahn’s serf shop.

well if you have 100 employees who driven a year that would cover it yes?

I would pay $99 for unsupervised and if there's an accident it isn't my fault

Hw2.5 cannot subscribe to FSD. FSD computer is HW3,

I’d permanently subscribe for $20. That’s the only price point at which I would permanently subscribe. I would also subscribe on a given day if I could do it for $3 as suggested here. I usually prefer driving myself though, maybe that makes me an outlier.

What if it will be $5 🎶Tesla can you hear us 🎶

Well I have an Espresso maker so I might if I didn’t. But I’d still want my coffee so it’s irrelevant. Getting FSD doesn’t get me a free coffee too.

I use FP, and it changes lanes automatically when I use my indicator (even detecting cars). Like you said, can be programmed for a set amount of time after using indicator

That will be the price in Europe, according to leaks. 99 euros = 117 usd.

That's absolutely what is stopping me from getting it. If it was free I would use it. It absolutely isnt worth $99 per month, so somewhere in between there is a price that appeals to me.

While I use and enjoy it, I wouldn’t pay at this subscription price and understand why people are shying away.

The trend of people comparing subscription prices to "your daily cup of coffee" is so bonkers. Like maybe if you go to a coffee shop everyday sure, but my coffee costs like $0.20 a cup at home. Also nowadays I've seen it go as far as "for just the same price as your daily lunch sandwich!" Great so now we're offering for people to trade eating lunch for your shitty subscription.

I work remotely, this would save me money. I’d be cool with a toll type system - deposit $50-100 and subtract $3 for each day I use FSD. Grab another $50-100 when that balance is depleted.

I don't even need unsupervised, it's fine the way it is now, just tesla should take full responsibility while fsd is engaged in case of an accident and I'm in

And suddenly, their revenue 20x'd

Exactly

It should be 9.99 a month. Then everyone would get it. Problem solved. When I had it for 3 months free, I only used it during weekends. So not worth 100 a month for me

What about $5

This

i still think that 99$ a month is a good price. what i hate is having to pay 1k for the autopilot to even access this service.

Funny enough they’d probably make a killing if they offered 24 hour timed purchases. They could probably get away with charging $5 or $10 (or even more) and people would buy it out the wazoo.

I would appreciate free FSD for this one TeslaPR Thx 🙏🏼 [https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/s/yb7iCFCepI](https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/s/yb7iCFCepI) https://preview.redd.it/x4j25xh6xylg1.jpeg?width=792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d121e50b641502edec492f877a45fc7ea5ae57d

Don’t give them any ideas! Micro transactions to use the GPU you bought.

They're soooo delulu

While I get what you’re saying, Starbucks wouldn’t exist if that was true for everyone lol

I would 100% buy if it were $50 a month.

The last free stint for me showed FSD is significantly improved for me and my wife. We share the car and it got a lot of local and highway use. Having said that, it's not a necessity for typical local driving at that price. I like that there is a monthly cancellable price. I just bought 1 month knowing 2 long drives were coming. It does allow the drive to be more chill, but I wouldn't pay recurring at $99. It's nice to have, that's it.

Should be weekly rates..forget the monthly. I will go for $9.99-14.99 for 1 week. Only sign up whenever I need it the most or when I have to go on long trips. Monthly is useless coz most people don't drive all the time unless you are an uber-gig employee.

Stop with the daily coffee argument. If I subscribed every time I hear it, I would pay for 100 “coffee” a day. Apart from that FSD could be worth it, if it ever comes to europe, as I drive a lot.

They should come out with a $3 per day subscription price!

Remember, Elon is focusing on getting his $1T bonus. That means maximizing Tesla cash flow to meet the terms of his new payment contract. Don’t expect any bargain rates.

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Hell no. Coffee is like $7 now

So then what’s the reason?

I'm from the UK, we don't have FSD here. What is the reason people don't want to sign up?

So they want to be paid in dollars and driving experience… hell no

Settle daily - That's a great idea! I'll pay for this

Come on guys, think of it as a donation! You can probably add it to your tax declaration.

I feel this the perfect price

He said no more dammit!

Let's take it one step further. That's only 12 cent an hour. I only want to pay for the 2 hours that I drive from SD to LA.

Who pays three bucks for a coffee? I just have a machine at home. I pay that for an entire pack.

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Why are we always comparing expenses to the price of coffee…

Pay to babysit FSD, pay to train it, no thanks.

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It’s going to end up being priced per mile used.

wish i could see that

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Why don't they just give it to you if it's just the cost of a cup of coffee, I mean you did buy a car from them!

The problem for me is . The road are that busy and everyone doing different speeds it spend most of life never getting used.

Be careful what you ask for. They may use that to get you hooked. Lol

It's borderline too high now. If it goes any higher I'm canceling.

Paying $3 a day to be a driver’s ed teacher is bonkers.

That’s Rivian’s planned pricing for their future Autonomy system.

Anyone know when this is coming to other countries?

In the UK, I can still buy it outright for £3,400 (\~$4500). **But** it doesn't actually work because our regulators don't allow it so it would be pointless. But if I buy FSD in the UK and then take the car somewhere else, it starts working. There has to be a loophole here, like getting Turkish YouTube Premium via a VPN.

Maybe it should be pay by mileage? Lol

It would be more, prob 10-18ish

3x31 is $93

FSD (Supervised)**.... So... Not FULL self driving? 😁

We need the statistics of any/all ADAS use in the US. My theory has long been so few even use dynamic cruise control let alone lane centering technology that the idea of FSD is the obstacle. US consumers can be a sucker for a technology package on the car when they buy it. We see this at stealerships all the time. 90% of all in stock cars have the options packages in the top 3 of 4/5 trim levels. But in the long run as someone who drives 25kmiles/year, $99 a month is so worth it.

And it isn’t even like it’s only been a subscription, they just removed the purchase out right option. Then during that removed auto steer (a standard safety feature at this point) to encourage more fsd sales.

It’s really case to case dependent but if you think about it, its very fairly priced. 100$ to 3-7x your safety on roadways the only caveat being you might not like how it drives due to being safer. As someone who drive 50 miles to and from work it’s amazing, your are technically paying for your car to drive it self but what your actually paying for is the time you get back from driving, to be able to think, plan, or whatever else. It’s paying to get your time back not just for your car to drive itself.

Fsd sucks do bad with the constant lane changes I didnt ask for!!!

I enjoy the stimulus from manual driving, besides the base autopilot and cruise control for longer trips is plenty enough

I don't understand the hate FSD receives. I personally use it everyday. The price is well worth it for me with a long commute.

Not me. I make my coffee at home. My co worker is from California and he buys his coffee every single god damn day

Anything more than $0 is too much for a system without USS. My life and my family’s lives are worth more than the couple of hundred bucks Elon saved from removing these crucial safety equipment.

I don’t drink coffee ha ha

Why pay to not drive the best driving car in the world? They’d have to pay us not the other way around.

$99 a month sounds expensive… until you break it down 😂 That’s $3.3 a day. About $0.13 per hour. And if you calculate it per minute… it’s basically free 😭At this point you’re not paying, you’re just dropping spare coins like in a video game hahaha.

I prefer that. Renting depreciating assets is the way to go.

$50 per month

$3 a day budget chauffeur. v. $200 a day Human chauffeur. Fine, pay 60X more and you can sleep.

Bought a 2026 MYP and it came FSD free for 2 months. I used it daily and still don’t think it’s worth $99. It’s phenomenal technology and it probably does work 99% of the time.. the problem is you still have to pay attention and just does on the highway I wouldn’t do. Maybe it’s camping in the left lane, or switching lanes 3-4x right before an exit, or just refusing to keep up with the flow of traffic which pisses everybody off behind you. Thankfully my car has AP.. and it’s just so much more relaxing to use. It stays in its lane. It does exactly the speed I set. And it still works very well in gridlock traffic or on long highway drives.. which is exactly when I find driving to be the most fatiguing. It’s also free. FSD would need to be $49/month.. maybe even $29/month for me to subscribe for what it currently does.

As someone that only drives my M3 about 8000 miles a year, it hard to justify an annual cost of $1200. To me, it’s that simple. Plus, mine has HW3, so FSD in the city will not be stellar, so the value prop just isn’t there for a monthly subscription @ $99. @$30/month I’m interested.

Yes. This is the price point. No matter how hard they try to push the 99, 49 is it. Stubborn mules or just plain stupid.... What is better? 7 to 8 out of 10 signing up for 49, or 2 out of every 10 at 99?

And when exactly will EU-countrys get the offers of monthly pay? (I know the difference with FSD and such, but there is some functions I would like to try)

True true, I have no idea how some people spend $6-$10 a day at Starbucks for coffee. Maybe I'm just not making enough lmao

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$49.99 and I'm in. $99? get lost.

They act like ppl aren’t financing and like the monthly payment on the finance isn’t expensive on those cars. Car payment + FSD makes it more like $23 a day

It should be free with car purchase.

To be fair, you should pay as you go for FSD.

I got this email too… I have fully paid for FSD and am ineligible for the subscription… (I got it for $2K on a HW3 M3 and traded last year during transfer window to a new MY Juniper, so no I didn’t spend $8K)

And it making me take crazy loops around the city into neighborhoods because the map data is wonky.

You still are paid for the land in that case.

Ha

Full self drive is literally THE BEST thing about Tesla. No other EV even comes close. Over 90% of my driving is FSD. Love it and literally the main reason we have one

I think they should have a day weekly or a monthly pass. More people will jump on board cause I don’t use full self driving at all unless I’m like long distance driving.

$20

$100 a month is way too much money. Ill pay $100 to own it forever. Lol

This is definitely the most sensible solution if they want to keep the price. Rent to own is a win-win.

$3 each time for each use ??!!

It seems like mine gets one every two weeks or so.

Really, Tesla? Will it keep the roads safer for me and others? Wow. That's amazing. Sounds like a multi-billion dollar company should just provide the service then, especially since all the hardware is already there. You know, because it's what's best for everyone, apparently. You can afford it. Step up. Make it happen.

I’m not even signed up for premium connectivity so what makes them think I would sign up for FSD at 99 a month.

As someone who also wants the price lower, I also don't agree with this. For them to develop and improve the feature, there are many costs that they incur to do so. Including internet bandwidth to transfer video data, data processing, AI model training, etc. Its not a cheap thing for them to make, it just costs too much for most people to justify paying for.

Odd, whenever i change lanes it keeps cruise control on, and just disables the autopilot. Though i dont have fsd at all.

I make coffee at home... it is far cheaper than $3 a day.

Elon should put the money where the mouth is - those with Tesla Insurance should get a $50 discount on the insurance premium each month with an active FSD subscription w/ at least 80% usage.. because FSD is safer than most human driving or whatever he claims. That'd essentially make it a $49 subscription

Id pay $10 for a day. Would make 2-3 day road trips a lot cheaper then paying for the month.

With software that needs constant improvement, you want this. It would you prefer to be on FSD 1.0

I think this is the sweet spot in price. Especially since they’re not selling 100k cars anymore.

lmao genious

Give me a weekly $25 dollar sub.

You're on HW4

Until it learns to actively avoid potholes and roadkill, no thanks.

I don’t subscribe because I’ve used it in the past and it simply isn’t good enough, it’s more effort to monitor the self driving than to just drive yourself. The only actually useful feature is autopilot on the highway, which surprise surprise, they removed from the base car features.

Every car sold where the customer isn’t using fsd is money left on the table. Just allow $10 per day and $40 per week or something like that to earn more. There is no overhead as the vehicles already have all they need. It’s just a failure to price it correctly. Personally I think $50/mo, $20/wk, $5/d, is what it should be priced at. You’ll definitely double monthly subscribers and then also start picking up a lot from weekly and daily users. Also much easier to convert them to monthly users once they keep using it. Also access to a lot more data with more users.

I pay $99/mo for it. I also have a commute that has me driving rush hour traffic for about 2 hours every day. It's well worth it for me and I trust FSD to keep me safe. I love it.

lol what I meant is you can’t call it a chauffeur until it’s fully autonomous

I did though. I’m ungovernable.

*you are liable for any errors FSD makes

Wait, that's only 13 cents an hour!

Yeah exactly I don’t get why people always talk as if everyone is buying a coffee every single day lol, anyone can make coffee at home

😂

You're not the majority of people though. Im happy it's worth it for you though

Die großen Deutschen Automobilhersteller haben heute übrigens bekannt gegeben, das sie nicht über Level drei gehen werden, weil das zu teuer wird wegen der Entwicklung aber auch LiDAR und die ganzen anderen Sensoren. Wenn Tesla nicht wieder total dumme Fehler macht…

@elon ill pay you 3.5

Is it because it’s shit?

Maybe I'm just old, but i like driving.. That's why..

How about $49 a month ?

Really? For a 6 hour road trip, i would rather FSD drive

Not in Iceland 🤣 it's a one lane, turns all over I rather just dictate. But in the US or mainland Europe..yes But not sure i would have an EV if I lived in either places.. But i haven't rented a EV yet on my travels. I always rent a fiat 500 🤣 specially when I'm in Spain ( like now )

Well I have driven on the entire ring road, and FSD would be awesome on the most stretches

If they cut insurance by $99/mo , sure!

I pay 20 cents for coffee because I make it at home, now lower the price of FSD to 6 dollars a month and I'll sign up for life

I'll believe you I'm still not interested.. It's kinda cool though.

Samsung doesn't charge me for updates to my Galaxy phone. Other softwares don't charge me for updates. Why should we normalize this for cars? The manufacturer can factor future updates into the upfront costs. Otherwise, you're performing a bait and switch on the customer and relying on their emotional attachment to the product in the beginning to cause them to overlook future costs down the road. I hear what you're saying, I just don't like the model. Private property is a good thing, and when you make payments for everything, you can't own private party and it increases your dependency on other people, entities, or companies.

Tesla should cut a deal - lock people in with $999/year deal! $200 savings. Run this promo and feel the numbers.

But its less than 50!

I drive like once a week, thats like 21 dollar a ride, stupid expensive. 😂

I had it for 2 months in my HW3 on two separate occasions. Driving surface streets was pretty nice as it really got me from point a to b with basically zero interventions. Freeway trips were a different story. It constantly switched lanes, even though I set it to the most chill settings, whenever it senses a faster lane. I was so obnoxious and embarrassed as it kept going back and forth into the same lanes. There was also that bug that makes green light and a protected left arrow indistinguishable. The bug is still there because the car chimes on green even though my protected left lane is still red.

https://preview.redd.it/qes9skb1s3mg1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d14e51a52e37b48a2e322059b6d7b7873b96d7b5 This is what the app tells you for HW2.5. Definitely need an upgrade to HW3 to make it work.

If I had an Interstate travel day of 2-3 plus hours, I would pay for a day pass of $3. Otherwise, I don't need FSD at $99/month. It's just way too expensive!

It still shocks me you can't set your cruise control to a set number in a Tesla, and that's a simple function we've had since the invention of cruise control. Why does Tesla not program this in?

Yeah, paying $110/month on your car, outside of the car payment is crazy! FSD is great, but they are asking too much.

Dude, my daily coffee is 30 cents. 50 bucks for fsd, take it or leave it

I might be swayed to buy a Tesla if the major failure rate wasn’t 1 in 5. Everything else is very intriguing, aside from having to trailer my relatively new vehicle 3 hours away.

I think FSD will eventually go down more, not many people can swing $99 + tax a month. If they lower it to $49 a month the subscriptions to FSD will moon. It used to me $199 a month remember and they had no option but to lower it.

100 years of driving experience from who? This thing makes some weird mistakes. Nav says turn right, it turns left. White paint smear on the highway and the thing dove across 2 lanes of traffic. Indecisive lane changes in the newer updates causing it to miss exits and charge stops. Over all I like FSD but it very much still feels like a beta.

At 49 a month I would probably subscribe yearly rather the. Just when taking a trip. I work from home so $99 for it to sit in the driveway most days does not Make sense

By that calculation, that's $5.10/mo. Per Tesla math, you can count me in!

Yeah. When they gave out the free trial I was impressed and definitely believe it's as safe as a human driver. But it nags you so much. The lane assist cruise control barks at me if I look at my phone for two seconds to change a podcast. What else am I going to do if I have to focus on the road anyway. Whens the last time you've seen a passenger stare at the road intently the entire drive?

It will be more then $100 a month once unsupervised is available, Elon has already said this.

I have a 2022 currently and plan on keeping it for 5-10 years. My goal is to buy a used refreshed Highland that someone already outright bought FSD. Sucks they got rid of basic autopilot imo. If they allowed for a daily buy at $3/day I’d start using FSD much more often currently.

it would be much easier to have 10 million subscriptions this way too. they'd be a trillionaire!

Forcing me to pay for something I dont need (full self driving) by taking away (lane keeping) something I need is diabolical!

just say him/her

Or just learn to parallel park?

I’ve got no problem with it. Easily provides enough value to justify the cost.

I'm hoping it is good enough to recommend by HW6, but we will see.

Just do a monthly subscription pack of 5 credited days for $20 where the credits expire in 3 days if unused.  Recharge automatically.

Wow I can afford a Tesla. But I can’t afford $99 a month for something amazing! Clowns!!

$19.99 for a package of 10 auto-park. * Auto-refill when total remaining drops below 10

I love my Model 3 and I love autopilot. But the cost of FSD is the reason I don't sign up. I'd happily pay a one-time fee of around $2500, I'd even seriously think about at $25 or maybe $50 a month. But I'm not paying $100.

RIGHT! Like I didn't buy this car for it to drive itself. It's a nice feature though.

For traffic, Autopilot is good enough, for me.

The cost point of what I'd like the taxi to be. $3 for a day chauffeur in my own car is the move, because I'm damn sure not interested in sending my car to a fleet, As if that was ever going to happen.

The problem here is this is the CHEAPEST it'll ever be again at $99 a month and $3 a day. It's only price increases from here.

On whatever value they assign to it regardless of what you believe it’s worth, yes

Yes. My Tesla is within my budget. Another $99 for a single feature is not.

This… absolutely

How about selling at $5/day for people who doesn’t drive every single day?

For starters, I hate the maps. For whatever reason the map always takes me the longest way home when I’m at a grocery store I frequent. I thought it would learn my behavior but it hasn’t. It makes me wonder what other longer routes it’s taking me on. Next sometimes it wants to speed in school zones. It will be going just 3 mph over and then it comes to a school zone and decides it needs to go 10 over. I can’t figure that one out. Too many bugs for $99. If it were perfect, maybe.

49.95 or less

1.49 plus tax, PRN

So true, can't trust corporations.

I always have trouble understanding theee daily breakdowns. When I worked in sales at sears decades ago they kept trying to push the extended service plans. They’d say oh it’s only 2 dollars a day or something but then it’s 300 up front anyway. Never worked lol

$39.95 a month

Ahh yes the ol' "costs less than a cup of coffee day" sales pitch.

I like my Tesla but what they have to understand is I'm not that serious about driving. I would never spend $99/mo and get the value out of it. Also if you analyze a group of 100 Tesla owners probably 1 would buy the $99 package but 20 would buy a $9.99 package. Math

I’m surprised you had those problems . Did you adjust the FSD settings at all? Only while I used autopilot would it require me to pay full attention and put pressure on the steering wheel … did you try fixing the issues u were having by changing the FSD modes ? Sloth: The most conservative, operating below the speed limit with minimal, cautious lane changes, ideal for relaxed driving. Chill: Drives in slower lanes, makes fewer lane changes, and maintains a more relaxed pace. Standard: Balanced, everyday driving that matches traffic flow and makes routine lane changes. Hurry: More assertive, higher-speed driving with more frequent lane changes and a tendency to use the passing lane. Mad Max: The most aggressive, maximizing speed and, making very frequent lane changes.

Its worth it for me. Though I do have a long commute for work. FSD makes rush hour traffic more tolerable.

They should reinstate the ability to purchase FSD outright.

The feature is already live. If the price was dropped to $20, the take-rate would jump to 60% instead of the current 10%. (numbers are just for the idea) Plus, it would accelerate the learning curve, especially with the complex and diverse road conditions in Europe.

On mine I can set the max speed using the right scroll wheel.You can’t?

HW3 is a 25 dollar/month value. HW4 is worth the 100 dollars/month to me, so I pay for it on my HW4 vehicle and not on my HW3 vehicle

And they'll increase the cost slowly, just like Amazon prime

But will pay $6 for a cup of coffee 🤦‍♂️

One can dream.

Okay yes faxxxxxx❤️ i am probably only gonna use it like a few times a month but it’s nice to have the option there. So there will be months where i can’t justify it

It's literally free/standard with lidar for many Chinese automakers. We have an AITO M9 for when we are out there and it has 3+ lidars in it for less than 75k USD.

Correct. They removed it in v14 😢

just say them

Is it released yet?

Exactly. That’s my number that will get me on board. I don’t do enough highway driving or late night driving (where I enjoyed it the most during my 30 day trial) to justify spending $100/month

Why are you here if you don’t have one?

We have one…. Spouse likes the car but won’t use FSD when free. Take away lane keeping and she’s looking at another brand. Have an older relative same way. It’s a segment people don’t think about.

I won’t drive without it, even if the cost tripled I’d still pay.

Tried it a while back with HW4 and was unimpressed. I cannot imagine paying for it until there are vast improvements.

I purchased FSD on the day before they took it to subscription only.

Laughs in HW3; no, you pay me. I didn't use it when free. It was really bad. Maybe a "drunk pass" but aside from that, gtfo

sounds good. I’ll pay $3 for every day i drive more then 30 minutes and would actually use it. That’s fine right? If it’s $3 a day make it $3 a day. Hell, make it $0.50 an hour of use. I’ll actually use it then.

You know how many times I’ve had to cut my daily coffee to make you companies happy?

Right! Or $21 for the week I need it.

I drove on autopilot, on the freeway, where the nearest car was about 20 lengths ahead of me. I turned around for a maximum of 4 seconds to talk to my daughter and point to the screen on what the car was doing. Tesla beeped at me twice to pay attention. Now, it should do that, because it’s far safer. But I’m not going to pay 99$/month when I still have to watch every second.

Huh? How old are you? You could host a website for free in the 90's on a lot of places, including Tripod, Geocities, angelfire. Subdomains and domains were even free if you allowed a popup. You get what you pay for, and tech requires a lot of work. It's been that way and will continue to be.

No thanks. I’ll wait for another free trial

So let me pay by day than month then

But how much is that in avocado toasts?

The price is 100% the reason I don't have full self driving. That and yet another subscription for something I already own just feels icky

It is the best $100 I spend every month.

We bought self drive for a long across the country drive. While looking at navigation map we got 2 or 3 remaining strikes and self drive got suspended for a week, which totally defeated our purspose. When we called the Tesla, the operator said "well, you still can drive it manually " . So yeah, i rather have my coffee.

I pay $99 but only deduct $3 when I use auto pilot. Sign me up.

Damn that is a great idea...

This!! They need to bring back max speed. The profiles are inconsistent especially between updates. Hurry will go 18+ over the speed limit on the expressway (definite ticket), while Standard goes 7 over. Meanwhile traffic is typically a consistent 10-15 over which is where I’d like to be. And if the speed limit detected is wrong, you’re really screwed. I end up constantly switching between profiles or constantly disengaging. This is the main reason I won’t be paying after my trial.

I have a local road that chill does 17 over in a 55 fairly regularly because FSD is so convinced the speed limit should be 70 that it ignores the 55mph map and signs. Sloth does force it to 55, but given the normal speed of traffic is 65, going 72 is preferable to 55, even if it's in ticket territory.

"You will nothing and you will be happy" vibes...