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Do you use FSD?

GucciTokes | 2026-02-16 23:20 | 127 views

I see countless Teslas every day and yet it feels like I’m the only one who’s using FSD, everyone else I see is driving themselves. Why do you all think that is? Cost? Lack of trust in the software? Both?

Comments (394)
Fun-Sundae4060 2026-02-16 23:24

I’m way faster than the FSD so I drive myself 99% of the time Plus way more fun

Mysterious-Dark-11 2026-02-16 23:25

You’d be surprised how many Tesla owners have no clue what FSD is

Silly_Yellow19 2026-02-16 23:25

97% so far

HeronOrganic3727 2026-02-16 23:28

Yes

sevettjr 2026-02-16 23:35

Well, you can’t trust the software, can you? FSD is always postfixed with (supervised), which means you have to be engaged in the drive, even if the software is doing really well. And you will definitely need to intervene occasionally. Personally, I find it frustrating to use in town, because I’m quicker and more efficient than FSD. I would use it on the interstate, though.

Salty_Leather42 2026-02-16 23:39

It’s great on highways as an upgrade to EAP but it can’t handle the city or imperfect weather unfortunately. Maybe just a HW3 thing …

Automatic-Photo-4919 2026-02-16 23:43

HW4. 95% usage.

_Heathcliff_ 2026-02-16 23:47

I didn’t use FSD almost ever on my first 3, so I didn’t get it on my current one. I just don’t feel the need for it at all around town. I do use autopilot a lot on road trips and I’m not thrilled that that isn’t going to be an option on future vehicles.

diatribe2018 2026-02-16 23:47

I’ve logged 3 cross country near 100% FSD trips. It’s pretty fantastic, having to charge every couple hundred miles isn’t great but it’s a good stretch break

w1lnx 2026-02-16 23:49

I run FSD for every drive, as much as possible. There are some things it can't do gracefully (or logically), so I take over when needed. For example: \- I take over in and out of the parking lot at work. \- I also don't let it back into my own garage (charger). \- Or down the driveway at my farmhouse (110mi away). But pretty much everything else, it does very nicely. Across the country and back, in and out of large cities during rush hour (Portland, Seattle, Spokane, Boise, SLC, Denver, Colorado Springs, etc). Dial it back to Chill mode and supervise. Does quite well.

firstrival 2026-02-16 23:51

I use AP on the highway, but I don't know another person that does. Everyone else says "I'd rather drive myself." I think Tesla was right to not include it. They have the stats. Hardly anyone in the real world would notice.

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exgokin 2026-02-16 23:56

I had the demo for a month. While it was pretty cool, I didn’t find myself using it all that much. Only time I did use it was on the highway. Autopilot is more than enough for my needs. I actually like driving the car.

bobarobot 2026-02-16 23:57

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word-dragon 2026-02-16 23:58

2025 Highland (HW4) drove to Manhattan and back. Holland tunnel, dealing with emergency vehicles, double parked cars, construction, bikes in and out of bike lanes, pedestrians. It came back via Brooklyn and Staten Island, and - oh yeah - saved us from getting creamed by a semi on the last part of our return.

Zachjsrf 2026-02-17 00:00

I use FSD about 98% of the time, im paying $99 a month for it im gonna be lazy. Honestly its why Im glad I have a Tesla. Most ppl who hate on it have never tried it

caspar_milquetoast69 2026-02-17 00:00

95% of my miles are FSD

Gh0stw0lf 2026-02-17 00:02

2026 HW4 Y Performance - every damn day

Tsurfer4 2026-02-17 00:03

I initially read that as your driveway being 110 miles long. I was going to be amazed. Lol. My wife and I also use FSD in 99% of drives with similar takeovers as yours.

Tsurfer4 2026-02-17 00:06

I like being transported in my car...I'd only like driving if the roads were curvy and there was no traffic and the weather was good. That rarely happens on my drives. So, I like that FSD drives for me.

PossibleYam 2026-02-17 00:14

Yeah most times. >90% for sure.

Independent_Ad_4271 2026-02-17 00:15

74% here love it

Empty_Combination957 2026-02-17 00:16

During the last free trial I could swear I was the only one. I think it’s improved since I first tried it in early 2024 but I’m not paying for it.

a9uirre 2026-02-17 00:17

Omg I thought I was the only one peering at their screens

Stivo887 2026-02-17 00:21

There’s still no Altima driver FSD mode. I drive faster everywhere.

GreetingsFromAP 2026-02-17 00:25

There are points where you are reminded it’s not perfect, but for the most part I agree. I generally feel it’s a better/safer driver in most situations than I am. There are times where it makes a decision that I wouldn’t and in standard it is still a bit too aggressive in trying to stay left when a highway exit comes up

ZeroBalance98 2026-02-17 00:26

Same experience here. The people I do know with Teslas think basic autopilot/autosteer is FSD.

Hockeyshot39 2026-02-17 00:27

HW3 - every day 70k of my 100k miles, I’d guess are FSD

SMLBound 2026-02-17 00:28

I’m about 95% FSD and use it every drive long or short, in most cases it simply drives better than I do.

Shot-Bar-7409 2026-02-17 00:29

95% of the time I drive on FSD, HW3.

kittysworld 2026-02-17 00:31

Yes. All the time. If i am paying for it, might as well use it fully. Besides it's safer than me driving.

steebulee 2026-02-17 00:33

I use it every day and 97% of my drive

rcornell86 2026-02-17 00:33

I've been in enough mishaps in the past that I'm worried I'd be impatient and more risky than FSD. I like that it keeps me one step removed, avoiding continuous light road rage lol. I am overall surprised by the low adoption rates because FSD is supposed to be one of the big perks of Tesla ownership.

ryachow44 2026-02-17 00:34

You'd be surprised at how few people used old school cruise control ...

thombrowny 2026-02-17 00:35

I am currently running 50/50. I used to just drive myself and only used for a long trip. But I started loving FSD, especially found out this bad boy drive better than I do...

akg81 2026-02-17 00:36

Everytime I turn it on, I have to turn it back off withing 5 minutes

ss-ss7 2026-02-17 00:38

FSD is incredible. I use it \~85% of the time.

ramanana01 2026-02-17 00:42

Tesla announced there were only around 1.1 million FSD subscribers so no not many use it.

FlatAd768 2026-02-17 00:43

95% of the time when I drive

Putrid-Box4866 2026-02-17 00:43

People always say they’re better than FSD 😂. There’s no way a human will be better than FSD on HW4. Even statistically speaking it has been proven.

DarkSideTroooper 2026-02-17 00:51

75% ish. I prefer to drive myself, except for when I am tired or long highway trip.

Antraxx310 2026-02-17 00:56

80% of my driving is fsd i paid for it ima use the shit out of it.

Legal-Promotion-4875 2026-02-17 00:56

I’ve had FSD since it went to $99 and love it. I just changed it to ‘hurry’ mode and it’s even better. Most of the time I use it on the freeway and have grown to trust it. 👍🏽👌🏽👏🏽🥸

bbmmpp 2026-02-17 00:58

Three guys chasing each other in BMWs on the northern state parkway FSD mode

Branderson391 2026-02-17 01:05

50% of the time since v14 came out. I just enjoy driving it so I'll use it just when I don't feel like driving. Plus I'll cancel once the free year runs out.

Hot_Fee1686 2026-02-17 01:05

Cost

Bright_Mix_3449 2026-02-17 01:19

Something about Lies, damned lies, and statistics

CousinEddysMotorHome 2026-02-17 01:19

Yes.

f2000sa 2026-02-17 01:21

98% FSD here

hmspain 2026-02-17 01:24

I'm at 95%. Of course having HW4 and FSD V14 on my Highland helps!

jerryweezer 2026-02-17 01:28

FSD Every. Single. Drive. It’s amazing having a driver everywhere I go.

Clean_Extension7234 2026-02-17 01:31

FSD LOVES getting behind semi trucks. I like my windshield. Switching to mad max might catch you a ticket at best or a bullet at worst. Regular autopilot with TACC does everything I need when I know where I’m going. Road trip definitely FSD can be clutch though.

ColoradoJimbo 2026-02-17 01:32

I’ve had a couple trials, even paid for a month. I like driving the car, it’s fast and fun, I rarely used FSD when I had a trial and twice the month I paid for it..

poetuan-hou 2026-02-17 01:34

Cost. From the free trial (last year) that I used. It didn't detect school zone and speed through railroad tracks. That's most my driving. When on the freeway. Autopilot works enough for me.

DecentProfessional77 2026-02-17 01:36

Every day

HoneyProfessional432 2026-02-17 01:36

I’ve had all version (AP, EAP, and FSD) for over 6 years on 3s and Ys, HW 3&4. We’ve seen it progress, regress, and then get better. The 2026 Y does great, 14.2.2.3 was a bit of a regress, but still does everything folks here say. It is not unusual at all for it to drive out of our garage, through suburb, onto outer-belt, to interstate, onto another inner-belt, back to outer-belt, and to final destination in another suburb with Zero interventions. Still needs to react to school buses and railroad crossings better. Biggest problem for us is FSD not following Nav, or Nav being wrong. My 2026 M3LR is 4 days old and I can’t wait for it to get updated off the 13.2.9 it came with.

xtrotah 2026-02-17 01:37

Sure am. 96% of the time. I drive ~25k miles a year too

Wraith_Kink 2026-02-17 01:42

I use autopilot every single drive almost on boring stretches but I prefer driving. It’s engaging, driving is like playing a game on the road

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 01:43

hmm.. what year/model is your vehicle?

Taylooor 2026-02-17 01:47

2000 miles on the current software and five of them were driven by me

HazardousHD 2026-02-17 01:52

When I had FSD Nov and Dec for the holidays, I used it on basically every drive even on my HW3 M3 I think people have a warped sense of reality here on reddit. More ppl here use FSD vs the millions of buyers

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 01:52

i’m on HW3 and i strongly disagree.. i have a ‘21 MYLR though so 🤷🏼‍♂️

ConclusionFlat1843 2026-02-17 01:53

I’ve only had my Model Y Performance for a week but I use it everywhere.  It would be interesting to know what percentage of Teslas actually have FSD active.

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 01:53

this is a great point!

beau080 2026-02-17 01:55

Honestly I wasn’t that impressed once the initial excitement wore off. Much lower on the list is that I don’t 100% trust it and of course I can’t completely check out anyway so what’s the point? Driving aint hard.

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 01:55

i was a huge fan of cruise on my 2011 VW Jetta.. used to use it even in neighborhoods on 25mph 🤣

katger18 2026-02-17 01:56

My 2 bros just arrived at texas from chicago using FSD for the whole trip. The trip included planned supercharging at Wally's, Buc-ees and Joplin 44 Truck stop by Tesla. No brainer, no sweat, didn't miss any exits, they said the whole trip was so awesome and relaxed. Even better than Amtrak/Metra train rides(you paid for $$$ only to get 5 hrs delays from a broken engine!!!).

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 01:56

nice, i use chill mode and i love it myself

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 01:56

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GucciTokes 2026-02-17 01:57

that windshield protection plan is great! caught a ding on Friday and am having it fixed for free next week 😎

ipokesnails 2026-02-17 01:58

I've used FSD for two one month trials, and in almost every drive it was incapable of following basic traffic laws by doing one or multiple of the following: - Tailgating - Exceeding the speed limit - Exceeding the speed limit in school/park zones - Ignoring speed signs that the display detects - Staying in the left lane after passing - Turning into the wrong lane on multi-lane roads - Cutting off cars to merge instead of using gaps between cars - Driving the wrong way down one way roads - Slamming on the brakes when shadows or tire marks are on the road - Swerving randomly when shadows or tire marks are on the road - Making left turns when the left turn light is still red - Driving on top of the lane lines instead of staying centered Very few of these situations are one offs or complicated, either. They're either everyday scenarios that you can see are detected on the car's display, or mistakes that any reasonable and observant driver would never do. It's an interesting gimmick right now, and it's helpful if I want to eat while the car is driving itself, but that's not worth anywhere near $100 per month. It would need some pretty drastic improvements for me to trust it without constant babysitting, and the current inability to set the vehicle's speed is mind boggling. ^(2025 Model 3 Dual Motor Long Range)

rasin1601 2026-02-17 02:00

If you didn’t follow Tesla closely (as we all do) would you trust the operation of your vehicle to Elon Musk?

FriendlyFriendster 2026-02-17 02:05

I don't need it. It's nice, don't get me wrong, and I like using autopilot of highways, but it's not a necessity. And $100/month is a lot to spend on something I don't necessarily need.

bosephus6342 2026-02-17 02:05

On my '26 MYP, I'm at about 66% (mostly local driving) but on long drives it jumps significantly since it's great on long trips. Like others, tend to take over in parking lots so I can get to specific parking spots or into my garage. I also use destination-less a lot where I'm not sure the exact name/address of places I want to go.

Codak_Mac 2026-02-17 02:07

How is HW3 these days? Made the jump to HW4 December 2025

nowIn3D 2026-02-17 02:08

I bought a used HW3 MYLR with FSD included and I used it 95% of my miles.

Fragrant_Witness4687 2026-02-17 02:11

Unfathomable. Humans resist change - are creatures of habit. Need a positive outcome (money, sex, recognition) to be motivated to act. Otherwise, wash, rinse, repeat. Some realize or experiment with the positives, like freedom from tedious driving and safety. $99/month is apparently too high a barrier for > 75% of owners. $49/month would double the take rate. $19 would quadruple it. Insurance rates are the key though. Incentivise use with savings on premiums. Those not using FSD will eventually pay double at least compared to those that do. Till then, adoption creep.

colterlovette 2026-02-17 02:12

Oh yes. Didn’t for years, but in the last 12 months, it’s reached expectations in my opinion. I use it almost exclusively on roadtrips. Another time I use it is when I take kids to school in the morning. Allows me to hold my coffee, sit back and have a nice stress free morning chat before drop off. I love it.

Philosopher115 2026-02-17 02:12

Lacking compared to 4. To me, its starting to feel like the difference between autopilot and FSD way back in beta.

[deleted] 2026-02-17 02:14

I drive myself a lot because fsd isn't great. it's stutters. fantom brakes. waits too long on left turns. i honked at another Tesla just sitting at a left turn lane not going when they should and could only to realize the drive was waiting for the car to go vs taking over. come on y'all don't make us wait forever. take over and move YA.

[deleted] 2026-02-17 02:15

also I hate that in hurry mode no matter what it always tries to get in the left lane on the highway. Also if you want to take a different way there should be a direction over ride.

skspoppa733 2026-02-17 02:16

Nope. I’ve tried it out a handful of times and never felt the need to keep trying.

turnerm05 2026-02-17 02:18

Literally 99% of my miles are with FSD engaged. It also baffles me how few people use it.

fatfredjones 2026-02-17 02:20

No because it changes lanes too much and I would prefer that it honored a set speed.

WaffleHouseCEO 2026-02-17 02:21

Just upgraded. Hw3 I prefer AP on highway. It is ok in city with a lot of supervision. Hw4 been amazing

Normal_Choice9322 2026-02-17 02:21

Nope. Had many trials but it still sucks Cost is too much if you don't drive a longer commute. Most of my driving is not highway and it just drives like a loser on normal roads. Oh and still eats potholes

dowbrewer 2026-02-17 02:22

I rarely use my autopilot. I find FSD and autopilot sort of scary and unreliable except on the highway. It is useful for long trips. I hate how it hugs the inside of lanes though.

Clean_Extension7234 2026-02-17 02:23

I’ll pass, only because better solution is to avoid Windshield mistakes to begin with. Also if you tint windshield, replacing the windshield is only half the battle.

SkinnyPete4 2026-02-17 02:28

Ever since they took away the ability to set the actual speed and confirm lane changes, I shut off FSD and just use autosteer on highways. The FSD profiles either drive like old ladies or maniacs on the highway and I have to intervene too much on side roads. So at this point, it was just a waste of money.

wlkngmachine 2026-02-17 02:29

Almost exclusively

Few_Koala2309 2026-02-17 02:31

I had free FSD free for 5 months when I picked up my Tesla in Dec. 2024. I used FSD maybe 3 times no longer than 10 mins each time. It freaked me out, so I never subscribed to FSD and I drive myself. It also doesn't help when I see a post about someone on FSD and they say it ran their car into a tree. I do take posts like that with a grain of salt, but they are always in the back of my mine. I guess you don't miss what you don't have. Plus I would rather put that $99 dollars a month towards a pair of red bottoms. (Girl Math)

liftingislife19 2026-02-17 02:32

Yes almost 100% of the time. I can not understand why anyone with hw4 drives

short_bus_genius 2026-02-17 02:35

I can't get FSD to back in to my drive way. It always wants to pull in forward. Do you have a different setting or something?

Personal-Reception89 2026-02-17 02:35

Almost every time I drive, for most of the drive.

N878AC 2026-02-17 02:39

I only use FSD about 99% of the time. FSD is a safer driver than I am. Why not?

ShivvyMcFly 2026-02-17 02:42

All day every day

Leather-Wheel1115 2026-02-17 02:43

How is your insurance if you use fsd

RergTheFriendly 2026-02-17 02:43

Haven't touched fsd since they broke it for on hw3 last year.

rfallx 2026-02-17 02:46

Do not trust the software at all.

GreatShazbot 2026-02-17 02:47

I live in a very rural and wooded area, FSD just doesn’t perform well enough here to use regularly outside the occasional party trick. I’ll subscribe for a month when I’m doing a cross trip, but that’s about it for me.

retromafia 2026-02-17 02:48

My Tesla only has one camera, so no FSD.

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 02:49

read through the numerous comments here, it may change your mind for the better 😎

akg81 2026-02-17 02:51

I primarily drive a 2019 X but recently bought a 2026 Model 3 for my son and had same experience on it as well. My biggest problem is that it changes lanes from a clear lane to drive behind another car. It seems to me it likes to follow someone else closely.

jabnlab 2026-02-17 02:52

I use it every drive unless its a snow storm. (2026 Juniper) I have an hour commute every day and drive almost 30k miles a year so I get a lot of use out of it. I do take over for most parking lots because I am picky about where I park. Its definitely not perfect but I think it works really good the majority of the time. Just finished a 400 mile road trip with it and it was pretty much flawless, even backed into both supercharger stalls. Probably 99.9% of the trip was on fsd. I just took over for the hotel parking garage.

777_heavy 2026-02-17 02:53

Still safer than standard driving on the Southern State.

tenemu 2026-02-17 02:55

Is that clear lane the right lane? I feel it always avoids the right lane which technically is easier if you aren’t trying to get somewhere as fast as possible.

Radiant-Original3956 2026-02-17 02:56

Every. Darn. Day.

deanhamdon 2026-02-17 02:57

It doesn’t work on 2 of the highways I commute every day !! It thinks speed is 50 when it’s actually 100

Kooch702 2026-02-17 02:58

The biggest problem for me with FSD is the speed control or lack of it for better words. For me it would be much better if it would just try to drive a max speed you set, no matter what profile you choose. There are other things that frustrate me but that is the biggest one. Makes it unusable for me

oneupme 2026-02-17 02:59

Most Tesla owners have no idea how advanced FSD is. They are shocked when I show them in my car. They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

onlytony441 2026-02-17 02:59

Yea that’s my biggest problem… it drives too slow for me most of there time

the_real_DK_ATL 2026-02-17 03:01

I really like driving, so no. That and I am not a fan of paying someone to test their product.

[deleted] 2026-02-17 03:02

Highland also. I’m at about 30% use. I enjoy driving and I’m not particularly fond of how FSD drives. It really depends on the specific session. Sometimes it’s flawless and sometimes it’s goofy.

GoSh4rks 2026-02-17 03:06

Hw3 has been really usable in the bay area for the last year. It's hard to tell a difference between that and v13.

darkness_asia 2026-02-17 03:07

I bought Tesla specifically because of FSD, so yes all the time.

akg81 2026-02-17 03:08

Perhaps yes the clear lane is the right lane, it tried to drive in the slower lane even if I am in a perfectly clear lane. Bro, i won't get anywhere if I did that. I spend 3 hrs a day driving. I pretty much know the traffic patterns. There is also a spot it consistently fails due to a specific lighting condition in the morning when the sun is shining right in front and there is a shadow from above

w1lnx 2026-02-17 03:08

To back in, I back up to the opened garage door. When it recognizes the parking space, tap then press Park. The trick is having the parking space defined within the garage—I added 4” wide white lines to mimic a parking space. But I don’t let it very often. I usually just back it in to the charge/garage slot.

Large_Guard2991 2026-02-17 03:09

Use it every day :)

climberguyinco 2026-02-17 03:10

I'm at 95% FSD on about 7,000 miles since 14.2 came out. Use it everywhere, every day, unless I just happen to want to drive.

hmspain 2026-02-17 03:12

I live in SoCal, so my driving is freeway/highway skewed. Since FSD V14 now takes me from my driveway, and self parks at the destination, my car is closer to a Cybercab now.

Some-Papaya8818 2026-02-17 03:15

My son says he enjoys actually driving it and would not use FSD.

tenemu 2026-02-17 03:17

It’s trying to drive the easiest and safest. It doesn’t care to get you there the fastest by analyzing traffic patterns. Depending where ya live, some right lanes are dangerous considering how others try to enter the highway. As for the lighting issue, check to see if the windshield infront of the camera is clean. It’s a common issue and cleaning helps a lot.

jbot45 2026-02-17 03:18

Strictly cost for me. I really like it but I won’t pay for it. I have enjoyed my trials and I used it constantly through 4 trial periods. If I had a longer commute it might be worth it to me. I don’t drive that much. I have found that I have to watch the fsd pretty closely. The most recent version to me seemed like a step backwards. It tried to run a red light and managed lane changes poorly on the highway.

scott5355 2026-02-17 03:19

Like you been surprised by how many aren't using it. Got three new juniper in my neighborhood and I've passed them and two handed waved at them only to notice they're hands on the wheel. It's free for them right now and they're not using it. Could understand if they had to pay for it.

No_Promotion_6498 2026-02-17 03:22

I like FSD but honestly i dont fully trust it and the car is too much fun to drive. I might feel differently without autosteer which is good to keep me basically pointed in the right direction while eating or taking my coat off.

sadmadtired 2026-02-17 03:22

Hw3 m3: I use it most days for the boring it first half of my trip when I’m driving to work or in traffic. But if the roads are clear or I’m taking a fun route I drive, simply because the car is fun to drive :) Feels like I’m wasting money sometimes, but then comes a time I have no idea where to go, or I’m not feeling well, and hats when it comes in key.

6100315 2026-02-17 03:34

I've been reluctant to even try it again on hw3 just because it was cool when I did try it, but nowhere near fully usable.

120pi 2026-02-17 03:34

Not worth the price. Drop it to $50 and I'd consider it. Both free trials I had did not impress me enough over Autosteer to give Tesla that money over my brokerage account. It made some pretty dangerous decisions on several occasions. 2026 MY.

BigRedditFan101 2026-02-17 03:36

I like driving my Plaid.

DigitalJEM 2026-02-17 03:38

https://preview.redd.it/gpbky3wq6zjg1.jpeg?width=1320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b821508d67a0fbd1640006043971fa80b5edfee You’re not the only one. I didn’t even know I could manually drive my Tesla until just now /s LOL

DigitalJEM 2026-02-17 03:39

I love doing launches. But I’ll let the car do the actual driving most of the time. LOL

RingingInTheRain 2026-02-17 03:40

Yep. I'm sure other drivers find it weird to see me randomly doing things other than keep both hands on the wheel.

androskris 2026-02-17 03:41

My daily commute to and from work is maybe 20 mins total on the highway and another 10 city driving. FSD is nice for long highway stretches but I don't like the weird routes it sometimes takes for city driving. And it changes lanes too much on the highway. Also when I used it last it wouldn't commit to a lane change into the left fast lane so it kept the blinker on and confused drivers behind me. Basically, for my short commute, autopilot is perfect. When I go on a long highway trip or need to navigate in an unfamiliar city, FSD might be an option worth the $99 though.

savedatheist 2026-02-17 03:42

Drove from SF to Yosemite and back this past weekend. Not an easy drive. 100% FSD, it drove better than I could have, like a professional limo driver. Totally worth the $100/mo if you put on lots of miles. It’s likely a combination of people not realizing how good (and safe) v14 is, and the price. $100/mo is a lot for most people for a convenience feature.

runrunQuail 2026-02-17 03:44

After the free trial ended for me I haven’t missed it that much. It was nice but it’s often less stressful to just drive myself. lol The hesitating, choosing bad lanes that take up more time, etc. was making me mad. It stopped in the middle of an intersection once too. I had to take over a lot. I was nearly late for work several times because of it, but when I drive myself I can leave even later and get to work early. It didn’t matter if it was on Hurry or Mad Max. If the cost wasn’t so high I still might continue using it though because I do enjoy just sitting back a lot of the time. Idk

akg81 2026-02-17 03:45

Well it doesn't work for me. I need to get from A to B quick. Driving behind another vehicle instead of a clear lane is not safe, its dumb.

Tasty_Action5073 2026-02-17 03:51

I drive 95% of the time on FSD. From the second I sit in it, I set a destination and click start self driving. I don’t even drive out of my drive way.

Potential-Grass6941 2026-02-17 03:53

I would if I had it. I have a 2018 without autopilot.

MostlyDeferential 2026-02-17 03:57

Blows my mind! I used Eyesight on Subaru and trained several well-educated friends on how to use it in their own cars. They'd never even tried to find out how to use it. I believe FSD(s) is the same plus the FUD the Oppo's put out discourages folks from even believing in it. Heck, I even just saw a post where the person said "Not worth it if I have to stay ready to take over." Huh? Just watch for places of conflict (schools, merges, construction) and how the larger picture of traffic is going; you know just like when we drive normally. Sheesh, really reaching.....

cbcon2 2026-02-17 03:59

I bought my MY because it handles like a go-kart. I just love driving it. I didn't use FSD during the trial period and wouldn't use it if it were included.

Blazah 2026-02-17 04:03

99% of the time if I paid for it for the month.

syspimp 2026-02-17 04:07

90% of my 60k miles are FSD miles.

nate_orenstam 2026-02-17 04:12

I don't have it. I played with FSD during the trial and it was impressive but I'm fine with driving manually or using AP for longer freeway drives.

Conscious_Zebra_1808 2026-02-17 04:14

Same here

wellintentionedbro 2026-02-17 04:16

It’s ineffective as a reliable tool that was promised years ago. I’d rather drive in the city manually and use auto steer or FSD on the freeway.

Hockeyshot39 2026-02-17 04:17

It’s excellent honestly I rarely, if ever get Phantom breaking. Multiple times at night it’s dodged random animals on the road, there was even a few times where people were somehow walking on freeways and the car dipped around and I didn’t even see the person. It’s wild that people complain about it and then people who have never used it say it’s not good at all. I would also love to see the people who have any kind of FSD and say that they don’t trust it, I’m not sure what they don’t trust but I 100% trust it it’s way better than almost everyone. I see on the road today.

Hockeyshot39 2026-02-17 04:19

That’s wild because I literally use it every day so I don’t know why you don’t trust it

StaceyGoBlue 2026-02-17 04:19

University town with students who give zero Fs about walking out in front of you. In addition, some narrow streets and tight turns. And always construction. And massive potholes It would be too scary to use in town

dj31592 2026-02-17 04:20

I use it on most drives at least partially. But I also got my Tesla because I love driving it so there’s rarely a case where i’d use it the entire drive

harryhov 2026-02-17 04:21

My wife has never used autopilot let alone adaptive cruise control.

charleshood 2026-02-17 04:22

I don't leave the neighborhood without FSD.

Teslaaforever 2026-02-17 04:22

80% of my driving is FSD

jasonni1234 2026-02-17 04:23

If I pay for the month I’ll use it.. but still use it more on the highway (even though speed still sucks)

bayarea_fanboy 2026-02-17 04:23

I tried it. Made so many “oh shiiitttt!” mistakes I no longer use it.

saurabh69 2026-02-17 04:26

I am almost 99% on fsd, but my wife is hardly ever on fsd. Still, this is only most probably to my trial. After 3 months, most probably switch to auto steer due to cost 😕

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 04:28

same here in Colorado

mike-foley 2026-02-17 04:28

Cost. I work from home. Don’t drive much during the week. If I could get Friday evening to Sunday midnight for $30/month I’d take it. If I was commuting (ugh!) I’d have FSD for sure.

mike-foley 2026-02-17 04:30

Mine won’t even use regular cruise control in her ICE car. (Not THAT ICE, Internal Combustion Engine ICE)

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 04:31

93%

Pandamyst 2026-02-17 04:32

Never used FSD, but I would love to. Unfortunately, it's not (yet ?) available in Europe

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 04:33

1.1 Million does not qualify as an “only”

Not1Gain 2026-02-17 04:34

I got a loaner 22 MY in Alabama. The HW3 FSD was awful. Constant fantom breaks, constant and unnecessary lane changes, and breaking to slow traffic was always startling, it waited until the last second. I would never buy fsd for HW3… while I have 90% fsd usage for 7,000 miles on my MX hw4.

JacobMaxx 2026-02-17 04:37

All the time, usually on the way home from work. I also, almost always, summon my car to the front of my building when leaving work. ![gif](giphy|H7rpSYHRyYgamxQNqw)

Neat_Welcome6203 2026-02-17 04:40

Or ones that think regular autopilot is self-driving

betsaroonie 2026-02-17 04:40

Me too. I frequently drive 100 miles from Monterey to the Bay Area and FSD will drive the whole way. My husband has a newer model Y with HW4 and had a trial of FSD for a month. His was a little smoother and would drive directly to our garage door, where my 2019 HW3 would drive past my house, but otherwise I’m very happy with it. Takes all the stress out of driving.

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 04:43

Did we need all this gibberish? You could have just said “no.” Funny that with all your extensive experience (/s) it is “incapable,” yet others who use it at >90% daily for thousands of miles somehow love it. 🤔 Gimmick? Ok, Chief 🫡 12k miles @93 % including a cross country trip; flawless

ipokesnails 2026-02-17 04:45

You're right, we should just ignore the basic traffic laws that FSD regularly breaks.

Medical-Frame2180 2026-02-17 04:45

Yes, every time I use my Tesla I use FSD. It’s to the point where I don’t want to drive any of my other cars.

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 04:47

12k miles; no tickets, no accidents. But, then again, my 91 year old grandmother thinks it drives too fast too. Is that you GramGram?

ipokesnails 2026-02-17 04:51

Cute, but I manually drive my car faster and more aggressively than FSD does. You can pretend FSD doesn't do any of the things I mentioned though, but it still does. Tesla owners regularly point out these issues. Just because people like a feature doesn't mean it's perfect. I like FSD, but it needs *a lot* of work to be worth what it costs.

LivenLucky 2026-02-17 04:51

I use it 64% of the time according to the analytics. The car is fun to drive and I enjoy it but my favorite time to use FSD is bumper to bumper driving. Heavy traffic is stressful and annoying and I’m amazed how easy FSD handles it.

SblackIsBack 2026-02-17 04:52

No because I'm not paying the same price as someone getting v14 when my car can only do v12.6.4.

[deleted] 2026-02-17 04:55

Yeah. It’s great at freeway driving and the more abundant parking options are great. Impressively it does a pretty good job at parking itself at businesses too usually.

MECO_2019 2026-02-17 04:55

So true. I have several family members that never use cruise control. FSD would basically have to be perfect (unsupervised) to get them to try it...so I don't push it that much for now.

enpixelate 2026-02-17 04:59

According to stats in my car, 96% of my driving is with fsd. It makes my daily commute so much better.

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 05:00

12.6.4 works much like 14 in my experience.. they’re supposed to be releasing a new HW3 update by Q2 or 3 apparently

joergonix 2026-02-17 05:01

I would argue that only in the past 18 months has it gotten good enough to trust for the everyday driver. That's not a lot of time for something to become commonplace... especially for a company that doesn't do a ton of marketing... and even worse for a company that has a CEO that is actively shooting itself in the foot. People know that Tesla offers autopilot, but for the most part it's always been more of a fringe product that has never quite been good enough. Now it's finally good enough for the mainstream, but it's priced like a luxury item. Most people myself included are not going to pay $100 a month for a feature that won't save them any time or resources. It's a convenience, and one that hasn't been marketed at all.

MECO_2019 2026-02-17 05:02

Discoverability: Adding the big button on the screen was a step in the right direction (v14). Over time, there were just too many ways to turn it on, depending on the model. Old AutoPilot (left stalk), OG 3/Y (right stalk), Updated 3/Y/S/X/CT (right scroll push). Once FSD-Lite comes out for HW3, I hope it is also just a button on the screen - so every HW3+ car will be consistent. I also think they should have plain old P R N D L buttons on the screen, since swipes are not obvious - and they are in the opposite direction that stalk-shifters moved (stalk down = Drive, stalk up = Reverse) vs (Swipe Up = Drive, Swipe Down = Reverse). The guiding principle should be that the car is intuitive and obvious for a first-time Tesla driver.

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 05:08

1.1 million subscribers. 14.7 Million FSD miles driven PER DAY. There will always be trolls and whiners on Reddit (you are the perfect example), but go ahead and show me anything with substance - an injury accident for example. Find a single one in 2026 - just one! Over a Billion miles driven with FSD, surely that will be easy - right? Now go change your diaper GramGram

ipokesnails 2026-02-17 05:12

I didn't say it causes accidents or injuries, I said it breaks traffic laws. And your strawman and childish insults only weaken the point you're trying to make. Are you really going to pretend that FSD doesn't do any of the things I mentioned?

Ill-Connection-5868 2026-02-17 05:13

I got my car 10 days ago, I almost never drive it. FSD is awesome!

MECO_2019 2026-02-17 05:14

Amazon has Prime Day twice a year. Tesla should have "FSD Day" twice a year. Here's how it could work: FSD trial is free for 48 hours. During the trial period, drive at least 30 miles. Trial stats are tracked, and if you use FSD more than 75% during the trial, then you get 50% off of a month's FSD subscription. Use FSD over 90% and win a free month of FSD. So, instead of just handing out free trials, gamify it so that drivers have more awareness and stake in trying it out.

texelectrix 2026-02-17 05:18

I have begun to use my HW3 FSD more, not having had much highway time in which to use it. On the interstate recently it did well (in Chill mode) until I encountered heavy traffic—4 to 5 slow-moving lanes. FSD repeatedly tried to change lanes which would be pointless because all lanes were moving slowly. I had to quit and switch to Traffic Aware Cruise Control, which works great in slow-moving freeway traffic. Pointless lane switching is a problem, even in Chill setting. In town, FSD works fairly well but tried to take an illogical route home on one occasion. I had to turn it off to prevent it from taking the undesirable route. I also lack confidence that it recognizes mandatory right turn lanes in time, so I’ve taken over before finding out how it would deal with being in the wrong lane at the intersection. I need to build more confidence in the system in town, or avoid using it. In general it navigates city traffic just fine. One objection: it seems to use the friction brakes routinely. When I’m driving, I almost always use regenerative braking all the way to a stop. This takes some experience to do well, and maybe FSD can’t handle it.

ThaSpeakEazy 2026-02-17 05:19

Didn’t think I would, but it’s great for highway driving. It has yet to let me down on any situation, and about the only thing I don’t let it do is park, especially in my houses carport because it’s a super tight fit and I’m scared the vegetation surrounding might not pickup as well. Other than that, set and forget from damn near parking spot to parking spot.

TrubbishBish 2026-02-17 05:20

Simple. I don’t use it because I don’t like how it drives.

Sh0Nuff614 2026-02-17 05:20

I had the 30 day trial and it didn’t convince me. If FSD was $20 a month I would bite.

NoTowel205 2026-02-17 05:23

I mean you're literally doing nothing else while driving - I don't understand the fun of FSD or cruise control. You still have to pay attention. It's way more interesting to do something than nothing (same reason manual is more fun than automatic). It's not like FSD or cruise control get you somewhere faster, they just make driving even more boring than it already is

East_Yellow8389 2026-02-17 05:27

I use it all the time unless I'm launching. Especially love it when I am leaving the city late at night and tired. Just set the autopilot, crank some tunes, and chillll... I just love for me how it takes the anxiety out of driving if I got a lot on my mind. And it's not that I don't still pay attention but I feel I got like a driver's ed instructor with me to catch me if I get distracted briefly lol

Classic-Gear-3533 2026-02-17 05:30

Yes, but there are some routes I don’t bother because I know it will make bad decisions i’m uncomfortable about. I’m hoping v14 helps with that. I hope overtime it will become capable of doing more and more routes

GucciTokes 2026-02-17 05:35

it’s fantastic for me in my ‘21 MYLR

ALargeHotCarl 2026-02-17 05:38

It’s all I use.

ALargeHotCarl 2026-02-17 05:42

I have a HW4 MY. For whatever reason mine has always pulled in forward until the parking spot update. I select driveway, open the garage when I’m close and it backs in. Only gripe is it backs in barely enough for the garage door to close. Always feels like 2-3 inches of space in front with 5 feet behind.

Roadglide114- 2026-02-17 05:44

85% of the time

daphatty 2026-02-17 05:52

Cost then trust. In that order.

6100315 2026-02-17 06:16

That's good to hear. I should give it another try. I used it probably before the more recent updates. Are they still updating HW3 or has it stalled for now?

Particular_Park_7112 2026-02-17 06:18

MYP with HW4. I use it everyday. 99% hands free. Occasionally intervene to switch lanes or detour.

6100315 2026-02-17 06:22

I remember there being a lot of hesitant moves it would make, false starts and such that were unnerving and probably made the cards around me confused. Sounds like it has come a ways since then though. I'll have to give it another try.

rydewnd2 2026-02-17 06:45

I see it like this: Autopilot on a roadtrip or extended freeway drive solves a real problem. Fatigue during the monotony of a long drive. FSD with responsible supervision isn’t really solving a problem for me. I can’t turn my attention to other matters because I need to constantly be supervising the car. And my trip is likely so short, fatigue isn’t really a factor. So really it just becomes a tech demo. A very cool one, but one I can’t justify paying that much money for until it’s much closer to unsupervised L4 autonomy.

SpicyElixer 2026-02-17 06:49

I don’t drive much. It’s really that simple. On long trips AP is better in some ways - lane lock + speed lock + chillin.

farmerMac 2026-02-17 06:58

I’ve tried it and don’t like it. I have enhanced auto pilot on my Tesla but it’s turned off. No interest in letting the car drive.

Diddums555 2026-02-17 07:25

Yes I do. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaAustralia/s/PpxXPMhGws](https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaAustralia/s/PpxXPMhGws)

jwegener 2026-02-17 07:45

Only 12-18% of owners pay for FSD according to https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/3089/tesla-finally-reveals-how-many-owners-are-buying-fsd

JustinVincib1e 2026-02-17 08:19

For me, I really enjoy driving the car. Fsd only has value to me when im bored or driving in traffic for extended periods. Otherwise I prefer driving because it's fun and im not going to pay 100 per month for someone to take away my ability to enjoy driving the car. Thats the thing. Tesla would have to make their cars suck to make fsd more appealing for someone like me. They are already doing that by getting rid of autosteer. If they continue to do so my next ev will not be a tesla.

ReasonableBranch7337 2026-02-17 08:20

Me and my wife use HW3 in our 2023 Model 3 pretty much every single day especially when our 5 year old son is in the car. The second he gets in he knows what FSD looks like on the screen and if we’re not in FSD he starts asking for us to do it. He thinks FSD is the coolest thing ever.

wrathslayer 2026-02-17 08:31

I bought my fast, lots-of-torque car to drive, not be driven by. I genuinely like to drive. Also the few times I've tried it when offered free trials, it would do the phantom breaking thing. Not good on the freeway. Granted, I'm on HW3 and stuck on v12 so that may be why. Regardless, I'd honestly rather just drive myself.

Miggy88mm 2026-02-17 09:07

No. It's slow on my drive home from work and hits every pot hole head on. In a 22 model Y is jarring as all hell. I still don't understand why they didn't make these things for comfort.

k95670_monero 2026-02-17 09:08

Yes I’am a 98% FSD user with 8100 miles the first year.

CoolDiamond42 2026-02-17 09:10

Too expensive for me.

Salty_Leather42 2026-02-17 09:35

That’s great if it works where you drive. Looking forward to it being consistent in busy cities and inclement weather.

Salty_Leather42 2026-02-17 09:37

Then it is a HW3 issue then. That’s great news , looking forward to the hardware upgrade.

chankongsang 2026-02-17 09:38

I use it all the time. HW3 for a 22 MYLR. It’s great 98% of the time. That’s a pretty high percentage but it still means I’ll take over sometimes. Even with HW3 I’m glad it will overtake slow cars and move back to the slow lane. Instead of camping in a faster lane and pissing people off

Substantial_Injury_1 2026-02-17 09:40

I own a car to drive it. I've not even used cruised control in my Model 3 yet.

peterge98 2026-02-17 10:16

Europe :/

Peace-wolf 2026-02-17 10:52

I’m at 48% usage now. I assume usage will be higher when winter is over.

JaniceRossi_in_2R 2026-02-17 10:59

I’m at 51% since the percent tracker started. About 6k miles half FSD , BUT it’s winter in Michigan and it was pretty unusable in December and January. It can’t be trusted on ice which we had a ton of. I also do a lot of short trips to schools and practices. Maps has the speed limits wrong for half of these trips. 35 in a 55 constantly. I would use it more if I could

Iknowthings19 2026-02-17 11:02

I use it some, but I like to drive. I didn't buy a car thats fun to drive so I can be chauffeured all the time.

JaniceRossi_in_2R 2026-02-17 11:09

12%

myfufu 2026-02-17 11:32

Last time I used it was last year's free trial. (HW3). I use AP frequently and TACC every drive. Would love some minor improvements to those but I now know that'll never happen. 😑

HistoricalHurry8361 2026-02-17 11:43

I pay for the monthly and use daily it as long as the cameras aren’t dirty enough to cause it to bug out. I’m around 90% usage on last 10k miles.

Brian1961Silver 2026-02-17 12:07

I pay the sub just to avoid deer on my wife's commute. Has probably saved 2 deer we know of. '21 MYLR.

kfmaster 2026-02-17 12:43

For those who never tried FSD, their cameras probably need precision cleaning, and calibration as well. There is a knowledge wall behind FSD, not just a pay wall.

WeCareAboutTreeCare 2026-02-17 12:54

How do you feel about it in inclement conditions?

Away-Scar7754 2026-02-17 13:09

I believe there is still a lot of “trust issues” with FSD. I had 3 months free when I got my ‘25 M3 RWD last April, and I used it very little because I didn’t trust it. When I got the free trial in January I used it probably 70% of the time I drove. My wife on the other hand, never used it because she doesn’t trust it. I’ve not subscribed, would only do it on a month-by-month basis if I had a road trip or knew I was going to be putting on a lot of miles.

Fine-Material-6863 2026-02-17 13:10

I absolutely didn’t trust HW3, I had two different trial months and I don’t think I finished a single ride on FSD, couldn’t bear in for more than 5 minutes. But I do trust HW4, it’s like night and day. Have had it for a week and using it every day for both short and longer rides.

Bonzooloo 2026-02-17 13:13

I just like to drive the car I bought.🤷 FSD doesn't drive like me, so why can't they leave me be.🎶😄 '25 M3P.

Solidarios 2026-02-17 13:13

Just got back from a 4 day weekend from San Jose to Palm Desert. 21’ refresh MX FSD 98% of the way. I interruption due to the rain and the cameras ability to see the lanes. It demanded I take over. Colleague has a 24 MY and it seems to be more confident in the city and freeway with less lane changes. I use it on the freeway frequently and only have issues around large semi trucks bouncing out of their lanes.

MadGeographer 2026-02-17 13:20

It’s good but I never use it. Here’s why: 1) DC area traffic patterns are better left to me doing the driving. Makes me crazy to observe FSD trying to navigate it. 2) I love driving the Performance myself. That’s why I bought it. 3) I have kids and I don’t trust other people AND I don’t trust FSD to do the driving when they are in the car. Taking my kids to school, I had a front end fender bender a month ago when a guy crossed double lines to get to a gas station. Other cars were stopped and he just didn’t see me. I spotted a flash of him through the others car’s windows and I slammed on the brakes slowing my car from 45 to about 15 mph when his nose popped out. Had it been FSD the cameras would not have seen it and we would have hit at 45 mph. The kids were shaken up but alright. And I was glad I was behind the wheel.

ConclusionFlat1843 2026-02-17 13:22

I have HW3 in my 22 MYP. I used FSD 80-90% of the time and I absolutely love it. I have never had the problems I have read about HW3 here on Reddit. But I'm in a small town (20k pop) in a rural area, so maybe a lot of the reason is the kind of traffic (or lack of traffic) I usually drive in.

ConclusionFlat1843 2026-02-17 13:27

Thanks, I just looked that up. Wow I thought that would be higher. FSD was the "secret sauce" that made me buy my MYP.

gotapure 2026-02-17 13:40

Too expensive to try when I know some people got free trials.

RevolutionaryBake362 2026-02-17 13:42

I commute everyday with mine in fsd. Probably close to 90%.

Seriously_2Exhausted 2026-02-17 13:45

I only bought a Tesla because of FSD, and my long work commute. I drive nearly 100% on FSD. I would've just stuck with my 250k miles Hyundai another few years if not for being sold on FSD.

JDD-Sportline 2026-02-17 13:48

I use FSD and still drive myself sometimes.

coffeegirlrb 2026-02-17 13:50

I really enjoy driving the car myself. It’s too much fun. 2020 Model 3

BigBrownBear28 2026-02-17 13:51

I use it everyday for 95% of my driving. I’m on HW3 and it’s been fine; some hesitation from time to time but nothing life threatening.

Meanee 2026-02-17 13:52

Not really. When I need to open up a water bottle or plug my phone in, sure. Sometimes if I am on a really long drive, I will enable it for like 30 minutes. I have trust issues with it. Once it tried to merge me into the truck. And a few days ago, I was stopped behind a flashing schoolbus. FSD tried to go around it into oncoming lane.

undermined-coeff 2026-02-17 13:53

Potholes.

ImpossibleNumber7345 2026-02-17 13:57

I can see why people dont care for it. Its expensive and you are already in the car supervising it, so why not just drive? If I could nap or be on my phone or in some way recoup the time, it would make sense. In the current iteration you cant do anything with this gained time so why bother with the expense.

GivMeTacos 2026-02-17 13:59

98% of the time in FSD

Hockeyshot39 2026-02-17 14:00

It’s done for now until they figure out something

Hockeyshot39 2026-02-17 14:01

Idk I don’t have that issue lol

Hockeyshot39 2026-02-17 14:03

Same here always avoids animals

Hockeyshot39 2026-02-17 14:04

That’s cool, I trust hw3, never had any major issues at all 99% of my drives are hands and feet free

DryParamedic785 2026-02-17 14:04

Yes, daily. Currently, at 93%, if my wife didn't drive it manually, I would probably be at 98%. Love it.

Knicks82 2026-02-17 14:15

I have fsd but only use it around 1/3 of the time, frankly because I absolutely love driving this car and you lose that with fsd. But for longer road trips, annoying stop and go traffic etc it’s a godsend.

Mission_Salad6768 2026-02-17 14:16

I legitimately like driving my own car and only use it on the long boring stretches of highway. Plus the area I daily commute has horrible potholes and drivers that are more unpredictable then gta/sims NPC’s and Fsd isn’t quite ready for that level of insanity

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 14:21

I went right down your list and can honestly say I’ve had NONE of those problems. Zero* I literally just got home from driving my daughter to the airport (SFO) in heavy traffic and a driving rain. 1.5 hours round trip; From my driveway to terminal curbside and back home with one touch of a button. So when you label FSD as a “gimmick” are you really surprised that I view you as an imbecile? Who should I trust? You, with your knowledge gleaned from reading Reddit and a free trial - or should I trust my 12k miles or daily driving, which includes everything from commutes to multiple roadtrips? Whose experience has more validity? 🤔 * - exceeding the speed limit is SAFE if it’s keeping with the flow of traffic. And are you going to try and convince anyone that you drive at or below the speed limit 100% of the time.

AquaticFilter 2026-02-17 14:23

99% of driving since v14 started tracking ✅ Nearly 8000 miles too for that same benchmark. The update initially landed for me right before a huge road trip.

annonymousMDstudent 2026-02-17 14:44

I use it quite extensively. I have the v14 and it tells me how much I use FSD. About 97% of the total driven miles in my car is with FSD.

SodaPopin5ki 2026-02-17 14:50

This is a Tesla subreddit. People here are probably more into their Teslas than the general Tesla customer. So I would guess there's a bias towards FSD usage here.

Complex_Arrival7968 2026-02-17 14:51

*Phantom braking*. I have a ‘20 with HW3 and a ‘24 with HW4 and I don’t see the huge difference everyone talks about. Both are excellent, haven’t had much phantom braking in HW3 for at least a year, lane change frequency can be controlled by using the thumbwheel to change modes, and both wait too long to get in the right lane when leaving freeways. Would love positive speed control in both, neither has it but at least HW3 allows you to use the right thumbwheel to alter top speed. Handy on snow and heavy rain.

JaniceRossi_in_2R 2026-02-17 15:21

Ya, I don’t get it. I like to drive the car, it’s a blast but those lost boring drives that are repetitive it’s a godsend for

Historical_Craft_554 2026-02-17 15:24

26 Juniper, use it almost exclusively. It’s great but not perfect yet. My biggest beef with it is routing. It does not always take the most logical route.

MotorBig7447 2026-02-17 15:24

I liked using the free trial but I won’t be getting the subscription unless I’m planning on driving into big city

Pec0ne 2026-02-17 15:27

I am not paying $100/month unless it is not supervised. I'd rather drive myself.

OliveVonKatzen 2026-02-17 15:33

I have used FSD while on trial and I don't trust it. I drive LA freeways most of the time and there has been one too many close calls. Also, the DAY I got my car, it ran over a curb in FSD and dinged up my rim so I immediately lost a lot of trust. I use the lane/speed assist all the time, but I would never pay for FSD. Even when I had the free monthly trials I would turn it off after a few days.

Rootin-Tootin-Newton 2026-02-17 15:38

I’m as close to 100% FSD as possible, but I too have noticed most drivers on my commute appear not to be using FSD.

ArrivalGreedy2788 2026-02-17 15:53

Try recalibrating the cameras. Worked for me.

reddittracks_you 2026-02-17 15:56

Currently 93% of my driving on 14.2.2.4 is FSD.

HunterIV4 2026-02-17 16:13

There are around 7-8 million Teslas out there. So that's around 12-15% of all Tesla drivers are subscribed to FSD. Even if we assume a bunch aren't being driven, I'd put it at a 20-30% subscription rate at most, which is still pretty low. Personally, I'd consider it for $40-50 a month. At $100 a month, that's just too expensive for something I can do myself. I should note I live in a rural area and drive into the city outside of traffic times, so most of my driving is pretty relaxed. If I had to sit for hours in major city traffic I'd probably consider it worth it, so I think usage also depends on your situation.

Runs_w_monkies 2026-02-17 16:43

Anytime I have the free trial, I barely use it. Even if I do, it's on the highway. On the streets, it drives too slow. I don't trust it at roundabouts, stop signs at big main road intersections, and it takes exits wayy too fast for me lol it's a nice lil trick to show off if someone is in the car with me but that's about it really lol summon is also handy when I'm at work and it's cold af and I want the car to meet me at the door lol

rfallx 2026-02-17 16:53

Most in the Tesla subreddits are bot generated.

Good_Ad_6039 2026-02-17 16:54

26 MYLR AWD 2700 miles 97% FSD a gift to this senior and wife just got her driver license less than 6 months. She supervised and I dozed off. She use chill and me in std mode. Only improvement in waiting is for FSD to park into white lines taped garage backing into so I can insert mobile charger. FSD has no problems drive head into my garage, consistently. Impressive!

FessaFate 2026-02-17 16:56

I bought my Model 3 because I like driving it myself. It gives me joy. With Autopilot I sit in a bus.

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 16:57

No matter how you slice it, 1.1 Million is not “low.” That’s more than the population of 5 different STATES. If you are saying 25-30% of Teslas is “low,” it’s crazy. That’s a large take-rate for a very expensive luxury. Like you said, many people really don’t need it due to their driving habits. There are a legion of soccer moms in their model Y’s that wouldn’t use it if it were free. Many can’t justify is cost and that’s fine. But for those like me, who use it daily, in high traffic, high commute areas and enjoy using it on road trips the utility and take rate is pretty high. In my area thats why you buy a Tesla (and the cost of gas here at $5 gallon).

w1lnx 2026-02-17 16:57

Yeah, therein lies another challenge. It handles weather issues fine… except reading icy conditions before it hits them. It also can’t read whether it’s moderate rain…or a sudden hailstorm. But, it’s supervised. Treat it like any aircraft autopilot. Let it do the monotonous tasks of maintaining speed or land position or fighting with a stout crosswind. Let it navigate. It won’t get tired. But it can absolutely see and react to things far faster than a fatigued driver. It doesn’t get stuck on a phone call, or fiddling with Instagram or trying to update its Facetube or Youbook status. It’s absolutely focused on driving while the people inside can have conversations and ponder what comes next.

Schnitzhole 2026-02-17 16:58

Me and the wife use FSD most of our drives since we got our first Tesla last august (2026 MY). My boss has also been a longtime FSD user. Tesla admitted Only 5% of owners used FSD last year. This year it’s around 12% so it sounds like adoption rate is improving. I think v14 is really the turning point to the tech where it can finally take you point to point reliably with critical interventions being extremely rare. the older versions scared a lot of people off when it did something unexpected. Most Tesla owners have not tried the new versions to experience it for themselves. A lot of people still get scared and cancel on the new versions when it dodges a leaf pipe or tire mark unnecessarily but i’d rather have the system be safe and do that instead of barreling though stuff like v13 and prior. I think we don’t realize how often we as human drivers make similar mistakes to FSD. our brains also see the wrong things at first but we convince ourselves later that we didn’t hallucinate anything at first. Ive also never seen a version of v14 dodging something unsafely and it always avoids other cars as a priority over dodging something which is probably ideal. Im at over 5k miles using FSD V14. I’ll be honest, i wish it was like $50 as the extra $100/mo does hurt average income families like myself much harder. It’s hard to pass up how useful the tech is though and the car just feels like it’s missing the majority of what makes it unique without FSD. both of us feel safer with FSD driving as my wife is a self admittedly not very attentive driver and im the opposite and driving drains me, especially since im susceptible to road rage (FSD helps curb that a lot).

Good_Ad_6039 2026-02-17 17:02

Added notes: 14.2.2.4

bakunyuusentai 2026-02-17 17:20

No, it's mostly because of the cost, but I have to disengage multiple times every drive. I have a model 3 with HW 3 and fsd is great for interstate driving, but around my city it's terrible. Maybe it's just my city, but FSD is constantly taking suboptimal routes. It will go through a route with multiple lights and left turns rather than a route with fewer traffic signals and traffic. It will also often position itself in the wrong turning lanes or camp in the left lane when the right lane is clear on the highway. Also the phantom braking is scary and dangerous when other cars are around. One more scenario that I always disengage for is turning left onto a 2 way road where there's no light and you need to wait for traffic to be clear in both directions. FSD would often jump out into the middle of the road before both ways are clear and just stop and wait. Confusing other drivers at best and getting me t-boned at worst. It really surprises me when I see people praising it here even with HW3 vehicles. I always assume those people just live in suburbs where the most complicated thing is a 4 way intersection. I'd like to try fsd on HW4 to see the difference.

Academic-Frosting-70 2026-02-17 17:24

I only use autopilot

Phianhcr123 2026-02-17 17:25

Cost, can’t fully trust the system, and I like driving like a maniac

RainRepresentative11 2026-02-17 17:35

Almost all of the time. I partly use it so much because thy took away cruise control (or at least made it very difficult to get to). Yesterday, I had to drive over 250 miles home and I had it on pretty much the whole drive.

word-dragon 2026-02-17 17:37

I had HW3, too. It was getting close to my battery warranty (after one HV replacement), so I opted to reset the warranty, and HW4 came along as a bonus!

Busy_Ferret5219 2026-02-17 17:38

My best use case is driving through a new town I am unfamiliar with.

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dailytrippple 2026-02-17 17:50

I got the 48 hour test drive. I barely used FSD. It was like a novelty gimmick, but when I had some place I wanted to go, it was just insufferable to sit there watching it do everything in slow motion around town. Maybe you get used to that? But I would just get frustrated after 2 minutes and take over. I tried on the highway going into work hoping it would be more like a super-cruise control. Nope. This was before the most recent update. It constantly changed lanes and cut people off, and it seemed to go out of it's way to try to cut off other driver with unnecessary lane changes. So I took over. I tried again the next day on the highway back to Tesla dealer. It didn't cut anyone off but it was about to go sailing past the exit before I took over and barely made it. I used the adaptive cruise control on my way home from work, and I loved that. Mind you it wasn't any better than the adaptive cruise I had used in other vehicles, but it worked fine. But now I'm scared off of Tesla. No more development of the cruise control or improvements to autopilot for existing cars, and no autopilot for new cars. I thought the whole point was Tesla's get better all the time? 2025 Ioniq 5s are looking like a better commute car given their latest ADAS systems unless Tesla pushes some TACC/ADAS upgrades, which isn't going to happen by the looks of things.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 17:51

Yeah. Only 1.1 million.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 17:56

It now handles school zones and tracks with aplomb. At least with HW4 fully updated

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 17:57

Bad routing generates at least 90% of my interventions on HW4.

Virtual_Abies_6552 2026-02-17 17:59

I use it all the time and barely ever drive.

Ok_Text2719 2026-02-17 18:01

A couple times a week I see a tesla driving 2mph over speed limit in the left lane. I always assumed it was FSD and the person doesn't care enough to disengage it and move over?

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:01

Of course, you can post these statistics for us.🤡

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:03

Or even sat in a Tesla.

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 18:03

Well duh! Of course they do. They are selling it 🙄 But they don’t consider it low enough to lower prices. That’s the truth metric.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:03

You’re missing out.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:07

97% for me. I turn it off in construction zones, parking lots, and routes I know it will screw up Next updates need to concentrate on sensible navigation, like it used to have. Great improvement in all other areas though, at least on fully updated HW4.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:10

LOL. Troll on, brother.🤡

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:12

Yeah. But I wouldn’t trust it to the likes of you.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:14

I too use it exclusively on road trips. As well as every other kind of trip.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:14

Sad for you.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:15

Exactly the same.

baconntacos 2026-02-17 18:15

Nope. Use it everyday. All DAY. every damn driving trip. Love the hell out of it.

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:15

Yawn.

RareUse7983 2026-02-17 18:16

Would be great to have a “Tesla Glow” for FSD like Lyft 😉

Litig8or53 2026-02-17 18:17

You mean the positive comments, right? Not your trollshit and similar drivel.

RevolutionaryLab654 2026-02-17 18:18

It drives like an old lady and doesn’t work properly for most of my drive. It’s not even close to being worth it for me personally.

sid_276 2026-02-17 18:19

this. my gf's brother has had a HW3 model 3 for 4 years or so and when I asked him a few months ago if he used FSD he said "I have heard something about it but I am not sure what it is". he works in tech btw

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Salty_Permit4437 2026-02-17 18:26

Nearly every drive.

SizeLegitimate9 2026-02-17 18:27

Well pointed out the issues. One more to add: It ignores potholes!!!! I drive a lot in downtown area and I don’t use FSD in certain area. Newer update has improved a lot but still not 100%. I will say it is about 95% there? I did subscribe it to my wife’s Y. My 3 no, due to cost. We take Y on long trips so it makes sense

MECO_2019 2026-02-17 18:34

Good point. I think camera cleaning warnings should display whenever issues are detected, and when they are used for lane changes, reverse, and camera button. For general safety, I think the attention monitoring should be moved to the free cruise control feature. That safety option should be included for all cabin-camera cars - no subscription required.

ProclarushT 2026-02-17 18:38

I am at 85% FSD according to my car. That’s probably about where I will stay. There are a few regular roads and situations that I handle my self. I ask other Tesla owners if they like FSD all the time, more often than not they don’t even know what it is.

Powers5580 2026-02-17 18:53

Not aggressive enough for me, yes I am a Masshole

ramanana01 2026-02-17 18:56

Compared to how many there are on the road and how many Elon needs to get his bonus, yeah only 1.1 is a small number.

chevyman142000 2026-02-17 19:02

I own it and do not use it. It wants to sit in the left lane on highways and does not keep a consistent speed. Yes, I am unfortunately on HW3.

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-17 19:07

And they settled at $8k once they hit their mark - like any novel product/ service. You can flail around trying to justify 1.1 Million is “low,” but in the autonomous driving space, and considering the competition and the fact that it’s still supervised, 1.1 Million is enormous.

Traditional_Ask262 2026-02-17 19:08

I bought a used 2020 Model Y last summer and have never tried FSD, even during the initial 30 day free trial. At the point that Tesla takes legal liability for anything that happens while FSD is engaged, I might consider trying it.

Dangerous-Space-4024 2026-02-17 19:12

I’ve noticed the same thing and I’m not sure but I have 8 thousand suspicions why

Revolutionary-Cup954 2026-02-17 19:38

Not really. Its ok. When they give me the free trial in decembers I use it a couple of times, then go back to driving myself. I like driving and it feels wierd to be in the drivers seat doing nothing

False_Research_9598 2026-02-17 19:44

I have owned my juniper for five months now. At first I rarely used FSD. I increased my usage every month and now use probably 90% of my miles. I gained confidence in its capabilities and love using it now. I instantly get a relaxed feeling when I turn it on. Even though I pay attention to the road I get in kind of a meditative state when using it. I rarely have to intervene when it is on. The only time I do is for the same reasons other people have mentioned like manually parking in a parking lot or deciding to go a different route.

TexasLonestar77 2026-02-17 20:08

This is pretty much me in Greater Houston. According to my MYLR, 94% of my driven miles are FSD. It’s been a Godsend for freeway traffic stress. Perfect? No, of course not…, but pretty damn good.

Graywuff 2026-02-17 20:09

Cost, plus I'm a "car guy" that actually enjoys operating the car myself. I'll use Basic Autopilot on long highway stretches but that's about it.

10per 2026-02-17 20:10

Despite having paid for it in full, I didn't use FSD much up until recently. I had to make several trips out of state in a very short amount of time...FSD drove 95% of the way. It's made huge improvements since just a few months ago. I actually trust it now.

HipHopGrandpa 2026-02-17 20:19

Every. Damn. Day. FSD is the main reason I bought the car.

deathbyvegemite 2026-02-17 20:28

I have a HW3 2019 Model X, and i use FSD all, the, time... I can't imagine not healing it...

No-Row5573 2026-02-17 20:47

I use FSD (supervised) every chance I get! Love it 95% of the time because it will take routes I never thought of.

Soggy_Media485 2026-02-17 21:02

$149 (AU) a month for a novelty feature. I'll use it when it comes with the car as included functionality. Really hate subscription culture.

Left_Ticket5464 2026-02-17 21:05

I have used it exclusively the past two years of my M3 lease and love it. It has calmed me down so much compared to my previous style of driving. I think it’s worth the mental health benefits alone. I also see the majority of other Tesla drivers driving themselves.

Soggy_Media485 2026-02-17 21:11

What an overly simplistic view of the human species. You probably throw me in that bucket because I won't subscribe to it. But I don't subscribe because I'm tired of subscriptions, it's not good value for money, and the price will likely only go up from here. The total value proposition of buying a particular vehicle is important to me, if FSD was that great, it would be built into the standard price of a Tesla (like seat warmers). Furthermore, it's to slow, it makes a lot of mistakes, it can't seem to drive in the centre of the lane, eats pot holes and cuts corners into gutters. It also seems to have a different personality each time you drive it. Sometimes it's confident and makes good decisions, other times I'm having to intervene and encourage it every few minutes

fatherpride03 2026-02-17 21:22

I used it every time they gave me a free trial, but I would simply never pay what they charge to keep it. Not for lack of affordability but simply principle. Why pay for $100 a month for something I can do myself.

midnight_to_midnight 2026-02-17 21:24

No

Ok-Safe-3125 2026-02-17 21:25

I have FSD but only use it on hwy or rural roads and that is with me taking over on merging. I have no idea how some people have such great results and mine and most people I know with FSD it's so spotty. FSD tracker aligns with my experience as well. Great for long commutes but pretty spotty in the city, especially dealing with crosswalks. Heck even robo taxi doesn't seem to work as well as what many people on here claim

J2048b 2026-02-17 21:29

I rarely use it and paid for it for about 8-10k its worthless

Andrew878D 2026-02-17 21:44

I love supervised FSD , but I’m not rich enough to spend an extra $100/month especially when I don’t even drive that much anyways. If I were driving greater than or equal to an hour a day I’d probably pay for it.

MrBenzNY 2026-02-17 21:57

All the time!

elonsusk69420 2026-02-17 21:58

The only time I don't use it is if I'm the first one in line on side roads. I use it on the highway nearly 100% of the time. The take rate is pretty low so most people have no idea what it can actually do.

TheDavidCall 2026-02-17 22:04

I’ve had it for free as a demo for almost 2 months since I bought my new Model 3. And no. I do 99% of my own driving. I just don’t need the feature and I’d rather drive than babysit.

AJPro7 2026-02-17 22:14

Only on longer drives. Not for daily commutes.

VictrolaBK 2026-02-17 22:16

I use it daily, and take over from FSD at least twice per trip. Stupid car is nowhere near aggressive enough for NYC traffic.

apcompgov 2026-02-17 22:22

I don't trust it.

VictrolaBK 2026-02-17 22:22

I had never once used cruise control before FSD.

Complex-Attorney-483 2026-02-17 23:07

I use it daily

Salty_Leather42 2026-02-17 23:29

I’m thinking of doing the same with HW5. Hopefully they bring back FSD and FUS transfer :)

Hushed_Rl 2026-02-17 23:56

Cost 100% also value prop. to me is low because I like driving

Whole_Occasion_6225 2026-02-18 00:29

Been using FSD for over a year now. Before that, had EAP on my previous car. I very much like using it but deactivated it recently because I wanna try giving “manual” driving a shot again. I was mostly using FSD to relieve driving stress before. The cost is a barrier for sure. They should lower the subscription cost.

patatesboy 2026-02-18 01:13

No, I really enjoy driving my car. When I had the 3 month trial I barely used it. Maybe if I had a Toyota Camry I’d be down to be driven around with FSD, but not when my car goes to 60 in 3 seconds.

skspoppa733 2026-02-18 01:20

Why? lol For most of my driving it isn’t a very useful feature, which is okay.

GucciTokes 2026-02-18 01:54

read through the comments here and watch some videos, maybe you’ll change your mind 😎

Mtnaltum 2026-02-18 02:48

Cost

cclem0013 2026-02-18 02:50

Cost

shlomo5746 2026-02-18 03:27

Not worth it at all. For 10$ a month sure. Specially for something the car already has and you are charging me for nothing. Yeah you update it once in a while but 100? No thanks. I didn’t buy a personal computer. It’s a fucking car and I don’t want to be in it unless I have to.

Lanky_Beyond725 2026-02-18 04:08

I use it almost all the time.

ryachow44 2026-02-18 04:11

first of all it's safer, way safer,similar to auto pilot on an airplane. it takes the boredom out of drives, there's a vast amount of people that driving is an unwanted chore.The "workload" with FSD engaged is substantially less. I drive on average 150 -175 miles a day, for me its a game changer.

djmikewatt 2026-02-18 04:27

Which is why I think Elons biggest gaff is the refusal to market Tesla with traditional marketing channels. A really good FSD ad campaign paired with some incentives would make them so much money.

Eighty1Savage 2026-02-18 06:50

I use it all the time here in Hell-A, I mean Los Angeles

Unlucky-Gene-2565 2026-02-18 08:00

I use it daily and on nearly all drives.

Unlikely99 2026-02-18 08:41

While I do agree to some extent my commute is boring as hell and would love to have FSD for it. But regular AP makes it ok. When I want to drive I have a RW manual car thatI can enjoy. All rides are not the same.

hotdogsrnice 2026-02-18 11:17

I'll use fsd if I have a headache or eating etc...otherwise I will drive myself. Fsd is fine, but I prefer being in control and I don't mind driving.

hotdogsrnice 2026-02-18 11:22

15% of something is a low percentage, the op's comment was "why dont the teslas i see use fsd?", well it is entirely reasonable to say...because the majority of teslas dont have fsd

hotdogsrnice 2026-02-18 11:29

Lol, im not sure if you've tried it since they have more modes but the mad max mode could be described as the altima mode. It has me going 25-30 over the speed limit and changing into whatever lane gets me around the traffic

Low-Froyo908 2026-02-18 12:06

how many grok bots are in this sub? everything feels like an ad.

DCGuinn 2026-02-18 15:02

So they swapped the computer and cameras?

word-dragon 2026-02-18 15:15

Reset the warranty by trading in the 2020 for a 2025. New cameras, new computer and got it repainted from white to quicksilver. Lol.

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-18 16:04

First off: Every Tesla has FSD “Why don’t I see Teslas using FSD?” How would you know? Is there some secret FSD greeting I don’t know about? Is there some indicator outside the car that I’m unaware of? The fact is, you don’t know who is or isn’t using FSD from outside the car - thus you are making an assumption. If you want purely anecdotal evidence, i have 3 friends who have Teslas and we all use FSD - so in my experience 100% of all Tesla drivers use FSD. 🙄 If you could define who actually would benefit from FSD - heavy commuters, travel by car for work, road trippers - you would find that it’s a fairly small percentage of Tesla owners. However, of those who would benefit I would bet that there is a very high “take rate.”

MaikJay 2026-02-18 16:13

Checking my stats and I’m at 84% of 3351 miles. 2800 is FSD for me here in SoCal. I’ve gotten more comfortable using it with each update and the combo of just telling Grok my “to do” list and it setting it all up for me is a really nice feature and then being able to edit it on the fly is a big plus for me. I’m still driving at the start and usually at the end of a destination but that 80% in between, I let the car take over. Being able to switch between the 4 different modes helps too. You learn the differences between the modes and depending on traffic and my mood I like being able to control how I want the car to respond on the go. What’s nice too is being able to nudge the car and change lanes while in FSD. You’re still in control without having to take over the wheel. I wasn’t a fan of the initial change from controlling your speed to controlling the driving modes on the right thumb wheel but I prefer it now. I see it as a +-5 mph feature so no more scrolling the wheel to adjust your speed. Just a click up or down now. On my regular routes and just in general I’ll take over in areas where I know the roads are bad and send in a report hoping it’ll help in future updates to recognize potholes and rough, uneven roads. It’s definitely not perfect but there’s been significant improvements made in the year I’ve been using FSD. It’s become more responsive to what seems like everything and that’s what I want to see.

hotdogsrnice 2026-02-18 16:18

Buddy, this isnt the tesla shareholders meeting. 15% of teslas on the road have an active fsd subscription. That isn't a lot and is a perfectly reasonable answer for the Op's perceived observation. My kids sandbox has 3 million grains of sand, it isnt a small number!!!!!!!!!

thinkdeepforinsights 2026-02-18 16:44

In the Bay Area it seems like every Model Y and def every Model Y Juniper has FSD turned on. I don't see people with their hands on the wheel.

Tacos314 2026-02-18 22:03

I use FSD all the time, I have a friend that never uses FSD, tried it on HW3 and does not think it's worth $100

pikaboo16 2026-02-18 22:11

I use FSD all the time, but it may look like I’m driving as I still have to keep my hand on wheel. I have an older Model S with no internal camera. But I agree, many of my friends who have Teslas drive manually. I don’t understand.

PM_ME_YOUR_CTOE 2026-02-19 00:19

Yes

AdministrativeNet579 2026-02-19 02:53

I only purchase FSD for long trips. I enjoy driving it around town.

poisonoushero 2026-02-19 06:06

its too annoying, i have to be focused and holding the wheel might as well be driving

GucciTokes 2026-02-19 07:15

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No-Asparagus8047 2026-02-19 09:05

I use FSD most of the time. I have a hard time driving at night and after a long working day. FSD gets better with time and updates. I own model y juniper and just purchased FSD one time paid last couple days. It worths.

SocraticBruin 2026-02-19 10:18

Me too but not in hrs of stop and go traffic on my commute multiple days a week.

SocraticBruin 2026-02-19 10:19

60% of the time

Not1Gain 2026-02-19 14:40

lol thanks for the spell check. I know how to change modes… hw3 was far more aggressive in chill than my MX hw4 in mad max. The phantom breaking was a constant in all modes. This could be in a difference in geographical region. I’m southern Alabama where tesla are not super common as compared to large metropolitan cities.

Hockeyshot39 2026-02-19 14:41

Weird

Complex_Arrival7968 2026-02-19 14:51

Yup, I just don’t understand why people’s experiences are so different - I’ve never even tried Mad Max on my HW4 car but I have noted that my HW3 in Chill drives faster than my HW4 in Standard like you said. And the rare instances of phantom braking are usually caused by tire marks on the asphalt or shadow, like driving under a bridge in bright sunlight. I’m in SoCal and that’s the area where most of the training takes place or so I have heard. Still, some people even in SoCal have had bad experiences with HW3. It’s kind of a head-scratcher.

Not1Gain 2026-02-19 15:07

The phantom breaking I experienced would literally be for anything and nothing. It would do it at potholes or just when the road split into a Y. The only thing I can figure why people’s experiences are so different with HW3 is the cameras and how clean people keep their cars. Also, people do lots of different types of driving. If your sitting it traffic for the majority of your drive HW3 might be flawless. Where I’m at everything is straight and high speed, with the slower processor it’s probably just not near good enough at processing information to be smooth like hw4.

Complex_Arrival7968 2026-02-19 15:11

Have you noted anything about the time of day? I have experienced the majority of phantom braking in bright sunlight, usually straight and fast like you say, and late morning to midday.

Not1Gain 2026-02-19 15:19

I only had the HW3 loaner for a week and a half. But it seemed like it did it basically anytime between sunrise and sunset. The only time it seemed to not phantom break was when it wasn’t bright enough to see detail on the road

misterdoinkinberg 2026-02-20 13:02

All the time. It’s getting hard to drive on my own.

ipokesnails 2026-02-20 23:11

What part of the comment is trolling? Some FSD drives are fine, but most of them do at least one of the things I mentioned.

ipokesnails 2026-02-20 23:23

I drive faster than FSD, that's not the issue. I get it, you spent a shitton of money on FSD. But if you remove your sunk cost glasses for a minute, stop the childish insults, and actually pay attention to how FSD drives, you'll notice the glaring flaws. Some FSD drives are fine, but most of them have at least one of the issues I mentioned. FSD is far from perfect, otherwise Tesla would label it as fully autonomous. Tesla [defines FSD as a level 2 system, requiring regular intervention.](https://docs.cpuc.ca.gov/PublishedDocs/Efile/G000/M598/K100/598100914.PDF)

bigantone88 2026-02-20 23:31

Everyday. It’s epic.

Groundbreaking_Box75 2026-02-20 23:55

Whatever you say Hefe 👌

Dry_Situation_3582 2026-02-21 03:22

I only drive when I have to.

Dry_Situation_3582 2026-02-21 03:23

I love HW3 FSD.

Relative-Sky2139 2026-02-21 23:18

It was included with my used car but I don’t use it

Litig8or53 2026-02-22 01:54

“I don’t understand” is the salient point of your post

Litig8or53 2026-02-22 02:05

Still waiting.

Litig8or53 2026-02-22 02:05

You can lead a horse to water…..

Litig8or53 2026-02-22 02:08

Either you don’t have a Tesla, have never used FSD, or are trolling.

Litig8or53 2026-02-22 02:08

Good for you.

Litig8or53 2026-02-22 02:10

Thank you, troll, for that insightful analysis.

Litig8or53 2026-02-22 02:11

But cheap if you do need/want it.

Soggy_Media485 2026-02-22 05:44

I have a Tesla, and subscribed to FSD for 4 months. Including the current version.

w1lnx 2026-02-22 20:30

I'm running about 94% FSD. Some things, it can't do. Some things, I won't let it do for legal and safety reasons. Otherwise, I treat it exactly like an aircraft autopilot.

Sammy_Saddles 2026-02-22 21:51

Auto drive on the freeway and long straight roads, but I don’t enjoy fsd so I disable it. Plus the interior camera feels way more picky on fsd

Litig8or53 2026-02-23 06:54

Amazing then that your experience so differs from reality.

Soggy_Media485 2026-02-23 07:58

Amazing that you're so adverse to any criticism of Tesla. Most people don't subscribe to FSD because of cost or it not being fully developed. Think I'm in the majority champ.

Litig8or53 2026-02-23 21:49

Majority of what? Ignorant posters?

Soggy_Media485 2026-02-24 05:30

It's right there in my response. Majority of Tesla owners don't subscribe to FSD. Which is backed by data.. how does that make me the ignorant one? Think you are projecting.

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