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Basically all Cybertrucks get birthed through a tunnel that goes under the highway now. [Looks like the tunnel shaves off 1,000m and about 60 seconds to the manufacturing time.](https://x.com/omead/status/1884331478718525520?s=19)
Old news
The tunnel existing is old news. That it is now in use is newer news
I dunno, ~30 feet a day (assuming 5 working days) doesn't sound particularly impressive? Like big boring machines do that distance in less than a week
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It’s like model trains for billionaires?
Their website says they can tunnel a mile a week, so I imagine they were trying to be safe in regards to not collapsing the highway
Through famously without the train part...
Caption should have called it the Cybertruck birthing tunnel
Innovation is also how businesses get better.
Very cool
Do the trucks drive themselves through and out of the tunnel?
I would imagine the long term goal is to have them self drive through the tunnel and automate it, but I can't imagine that's what they're doing at the moment.
Okay but when are you going to open a service center that’s closer than an hour and a half away from me
Is it just me or does this seem like a pointless vanity project? I get the obsession over every single second when manufacturing at a high volume but this is just moving the completed cars to a parking lot where they're going to sit for a lot longer than the 60 seconds that it saves them in travel time. There seems to be no point to it besides giving the boring company something to do for 9 weeks. Maybe the real value add is they can be driven autonomously through a private tunnel instead of needing a human to shepherd it across the public road each time.
When more people buy Teslas in that area. I'm in central Florida and I've got about 4-5 service centers within an hour or so of me, and they're opening up another. Our wait times at all those service centers is about two months though...
From start of dig to actual use? Think they finished the actual dig mid December. This is everything being complete and actually beginning use as the final step after manufacturing. Bit of a difference
So, it's ~60 seconds saved per car. If you make a car every minute then this can get you an extra truck a day. It seems silly, however, I work in the medical field and the principle is the same. The organization I work for uses an application called Imprivata to allow our medical staff to tap their badge into a workstation, thus saving the time the doctor/nurse would have spent typing in their username/password and allowing them to spend more time with the patient. Some facilities go as far as using Bluetooth proximity, so that just being near the workstation will log the doctor/nurse into the terminal. In today's market shavings seconds off of a process is how you make more money. Imprivata has a whole marketing thing about it [here](https://www.imprivata.com/node/104611) where they advocate that for the organization outlined in the article, they're saving them about 425 hours a month by having medical professional not have to re-authenticate repeatedly. Albeit, that's an aggregate total across the whole organization, not a specific process like the Cybertruck thing, but you get the idea. If you can spend money to save time, the seconds add up to being able to be leveraged elsewhere.
As a Model Y owner with 83k miles… what service are you looking to get done exactly? I had a local shop switch the tires I ordered off Tesla when I needed that done. Besides that… do you know how to change the air filter and fill the washer fluid?
My control arms creak in colder weather. Dunno if that’s something that a local shop could address. Do I need them lubed or replaced? Also when I put the car in park or drive the parking brake actuator screeches super loudly so I’d like that to get looked at. But yeah I can change the air filter (although it’s a total PITA) and the washer fluid myself :)
You increase throughput by opening production bottlenecks. In a car factory, it's the assembly line, not driving the car around. In a hospital it's the professional treatment of the medical staff or operating room availability or complex diagnostic devices (like MRI). Making patients in a hospital run from place to place won't help if they need to wait for the doctor anyway. Making the doctor login faster frees a bottleneck so he can accept more patients a day.
Grease. The control arm needs grease. I saw it on YY the other day. Apparently it’s pretty common. The brake actuator screeches? Sure it’s not the pad that’s too worn? Unless you’ve got Tesla prepaid or unless it’s covered under warranty you can use a local shop for suspension stuff. I’d pick someone that has at least worked on them. And I always order OEM parts. YMMV ✌️I’ve got 3 Tesla service centers under 40 mins away and I’ve never even been to one of them.
But it's not getting you an extra truck a day out of some finite resource. It's shrinking the metaphorical conveyor belt. The throughput is the exact same. It's only shortening the time it takes to transit from point A to B. This reduces the overall time of the entire manufacturing process but that 60s saved is just spent waiting in a parking lot. This impacts the "cycle time" as it's called if you measure the time it takes from start to parking lot but it's a superficial gain since it doesn't get the car to the customer faster. In your example NurseTime is a finite and costly resource so it makes sense to shave off time from non-value adding actions where possible since that's the bottleneck in health care. Seconds matter! In this example the bottleneck is the slowest machine in the factory. Say the gigapress is the bottleneck and it can only produce 1 frame per minute. No matter how fast every other process is you can never get more cars than that bottleneck's throughput allows. If Tesla added a teleporter capable of instantaneous transit to the parking lot it wouldn't enable them to start making tons of additional trucks per day. It just shortens the time to get to the parking lot, which shortens the overall "time to parking lot" by 60 seconds. It has no real-world impact on anything that actually matters because it doesn't make more trucks possible and it doesn't make faster delivery to the customer possible. The real metric that matters to Tesla is cars manufactured per minute and that's governed by the bottleneck
I look forward to automated parking, sending it down the tunnel and going to a lot/space. Bet that'll be soon. Edit. Yep, wasn’t even 24 hrs. https://x.com/tesla_ai/status/1884457749226090590?s=46&t=Zp1jpkPLTJIm9RRaXZvzVA
Impravata is worthless at every facility I’ve worked at, because they will not allow a badge tap to log in. So you still need to type in your password. I can type my username and password far faster than grabbing my badge and scanning it and then typing my password.
Bet they already have that for their internal build! Will definitely be sick to see it happen.
By then they will pry be self delivering themselves.
We're in the video was the 60 seconds saved mentioned? Where are you getting that figure?
The post on X has text which says over 60 seconds of times saved.
Apart from improvements to self driving they would need to have a way to immediately perform camera calibration which usually takes at least a few miles of driving. Edit: and it appears that Tesla is now doing just that at Fremont as vehicles now drive themselves from the assembly line exit to the onsite storage parking lot. https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/1icmr40/teslas_now_drive_themselves_from_the_factory_to/
Not in the linked video, you can clearly see drivers when the trucks exit the tunnel.
Especially given we know they're bringing the "destination options" here soon w/ space, garage etc. etc.
Yep. And it won’t let you log into multiple workstations. Plus any new workstation needs updates. Fastest just to use one computer all day
Every penny saved and every second saved is a cost reduction. This equals more margin. It’s a simple fact.
You could maybe argue that this somehow makes a little bit more money by improving margins ever so slightly with the time saved. There’s zero chance this would help production since the bottleneck is after production
If by connecting the 2 sides with a private tunnel, it could allow them to use FSD, making it not requiring any human driving it to the lot and put human resources to other tasks.
I think we’re at the point with tech companies where all the CEOs are just competing with each other and trying to show off what stuff they can do.
The boring company is basically just a single boring machine that Elon bought to do vanity boring projects. It shouldnt come as a surprise it basically does what a normal boring machine does.
Probably lowers their insurance as well. Instead of tens of thousands of vehicles driving through a parking lot and on a public road, now the vehicles never leave the property and don’t drive past parked cars, incoming/outgoing trucks, pedestrians, etc.
>Apart from improvements to self driving they would need to have a way to immediately perform camera calibration which usually takes at least a few miles of driving. For something driving that slow in a known path, do they really need camera calibration?
Do you remember the other tunnels they dug? There is no chance it digging anywhere near 1 mile a week. Even on a good day they were digging like 100 feet a day.....
Could be a proof of concept for boring and a slight bonus for tesla.
Looks like a close squeeze... Can the driver exit the truck in an emergency?
Per their wiki, they have at least 4 machines. 3 of which they built and designed in-house. One of which was capable of a mile per week. They've built several tunnel connections in Vegas.
But it’s not…? This is many many pennies and a lot of engineering hours spent on a project that does not improve throughput. Saving a second does not magically create value. The ROI here is terrible.
Somebody has to be paid to drive these trucks to where they need to go.
I believe the prior path also required use of a public road, which has its own issues. And who knows how much busier that road will get over the following years.
Giant waste of money, just looking for ways to siphon Tesla money out.
So crossing this road was the bottleneck in Cybertruck manufacturing, not the actual manufacturing process itself?
I clearly did not say that.
Neat
The tunnels in Vegas can’t even self drive, years later
And how long will it take to pay off that tunnel cost?
This isn't gonna directly save money because those employees are still gonna work 8 hours a day. They can move a lot more cars in those 8 hours now, or they can work on something else more valuable
"In a car factory, it's the assembly line, not driving the car around." How can one be this ignorant?
When I was in them the driver told me they can no problem at all, they're just not legally allowed. That is going to change when all the new tunnels open he said
The hourly employees that drive the cars have no idea what the cars can do or what the plans are. Why would they want to have their jobs taken away? Elon has said nothing about why the cars can’t drive themselves, if the Nevada or Vegas government were in the way he’d be shitposting non stop about it.
What would those hourly employees do if they were only qualified to drive cars? It’s not like they were assembly line specialists. Those minimum wage drivers were likely fired, and again it would take decades to justify the cost of not just using people. It’s purely a vanity project. I could spend a month automating some work that takes me 10 minutes to do manually but it’s not worth losing 160 hours to do that.
Trust me they'll find plenty of work for them to do. People like that end up as catch all
Okay, 2 questions. why is the outbound lot on the other side of a highway? And do they have a plan for when it rains?
Probably because that's where they bought the land. And how do Ford, and others, deal with rain on the cars? Dealership lots? Or are you referring to the tunnel? Presumably the tunnel would have drains in it.
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