Test Drove the new Y (I have a 2020 Y)

What's the dark headliner

I test drove a 2023 and new Juniper. Ended up going with the 2023 as it was a way better deal but I may upgrade in the future when the used ones have depreciated by half.

I have a 2020 too. The subscription autopilot means it’s my only and last Tesla.

The headliner is black instead of grey. I had a very early 2021 (no heated steering wheel, no new console) It’s definitely quieter, even around town at least where I live. The powered rear seats were a nice touch. The screen is larger, and more responsive. I got 16800 with just under 80k miles, which was $200 less than CarMax, and given the hassle, and FSD transfer I just traded it in. The 0.99% didn’t hurt either. I was going to get a new one later this year anyway, I just got it a little earlier.

I'm sure it's a slightly nicer car than the og Y but not enough to upgrade. Maybe once AI 5 comes out.

Is the Juniper that much better than the 2023 (which has comfort suspension), or just incremental? Curious about road noise and suspension. Thanks!

I traded my Y 2021 for a new Y 2026 last week. Transferred FSD. So much happier with the new one. FSD is so much better. I shopped around where to sell the 2021. Tesla offered me the lowest. [Driveway.com](http://Driveway.com) offered the best price-- $24,100. They picked it up this morning.

Honestly I didn’t spend enough time in it to tell a huge difference in the suspension. Brand new is better, but the 2023 is good enough. The biggest upgrades in my opinion are the refined interior, the ventilated seats, and much quieter cabin. The seats in the old MY are actually more comfortable though.

It’s a night and day difference on all accounts. One thing to consider upgrading for before the end of this month is FSD transfer.

I thought carvan offers the highest

carvana was 2nd highest offer, they offered $23,700

A headliner that’s dark.

Whats a headliner

The fabric on the celling and upper side pillars (minus the glass roof of course).

Ohh that looks good?

Don’t love the look of the new Y. But I hear the ride is smoother is that accurate?

It's really not. This is some serious coping to justify buying the new model. The overwhelming majority of things that are reasons for buying the car are the same. It's still an EV, still has access to the tesla charging network, the in-car software, the phone app, the power and acceleration, the space for passengers and cargo, the full glass roof, the sound system - all the same for a 2020 or a 2026. These are the main reasons you buy the car. The differences? FSD - better in the newer ones, but still drives itself on the old ones. For those that trust it, there's no difference. Suspension - better for sure, but still not great by any means. Spend $2k to purchase and have someone install 2026 suspension into the 2020. Problem solved. Processor chip - no question, new one is faster and smoother. It's makes things take 1/8 of a second instead of 1/2. Hardly world changing. Sound dampening - better yes, but only noticeable if you drive your car in complete silence. Most people listen to music or have conversations, so not a real factor at all. Looks - totally subjective call. IMO both versions look ok. Not great, but not bad. Blends in to the pack of standard SUV. Interior - both have the minamilst thing going. Better finishes in the new one, sure, but still nowhere near a luxury car. Things like losing the stalks IMO are a real downgrade. Ultimately a personal choice, but for me the most important things about the Y remain the same, and spending an extra ~$30-35k after trade in to upgrade is a reckless decision.

For me and it was a night and day difference. I was pretty set on going used like 2022-2023 until I drove my friend's Juniper. Suspension alone and driving on the highway sold me.

A little softer and quieter for sure

Spot on! People tend to hype things up to justify their spending on wants rather than needs. You read all this stuff here like 'no brainer upgrade, night and day difference, changed my life, how was I still using that old and crappy 5 years old car omg' and all other comical hyperboles like it's some damn phone costing few hundred bucks. Sure, it's their money to burn but exaggerating shit is a daily thing I read in many subs like this.

Driveway bought my Honda for 5k more than carvana when i bought my m3. Driveway sells their cars through a private dealer network, so I guess their tactic makes more money than being the dealer that sells the vehicle.

If you're really interested in upgrading, check to see what Carvana will give you for your car. I was going to trade my old car in to Tesla, and Carvana gave me nearly three times the amount Tesla was going to give me.

What has been ⁠done differently with the back seat seatbelts?

Two “bad” things on the new vs old model 3s are the loss of plastic between the door sill and the footwells and the loss of the heated central rear seat. the first is actually a worse design that leaves you dragging mud across the carpet even if you have floor mats. the rear seat thing seldom matters. I also think the appearance of the rear end was better on the old model. Seems boring on the new version. Everything else is better.

They are moved up so the outside ones don’t get stuck on the side kinda hard to explain.

Try carmax. On my recent 2022 S, Carmax was $8000 more than Tesla on the sale of my car to them

Thank you! The sheer amount of people making poor a financial decision by trading a 3-6 year old car for a slightly better new version of the same exact car is staggering.

I know exactly what you mean. I kept thinking it was because the back seats needed pushed back further, but that wasnt the case. Nice that that has been adjusted. Wish i had the money to upgrade

Spending $25K to $60K (whether new or used) on a depreciating asset is almost always a poor financial decision.

poor ≠ less optimal… at a certain income/savings level negates a lot of the downside. it’s not a blanket cars are a bad decision however from a purely financial perspective it will be less optimal for long term wealth building.

Given that when my time on this earth will come to an end, I’ll have more 💰than I do now, I can afford the occasional splurge, and enjoy my time here.

1) However unlikely, they could revert back to selling the included version outright and still offering the subscription model. 2) It takes some patience while shopping but you can purchase a pre-owned with FSD included.

I agree. I have a 2023 MY LR AWD which should have had some sort of suspension upgrade, but I hate it. Drove a rental MY 2026 RWD premium and suspension was MUCH better. If I buy another Tesla, that will be the configuration I would select.

How much did you spend on your 2023 if you don't mind me asking?

$34k from Tesla inventory for a 2023 Long Range AWD (HW4) with acceleration boost. Total was a bit over $37k.

good points. Plenty of cheap aftermarket options from AliExpress to address the carpet concerns though. Should have been included from factory though.

Thanks! I'm new to the EV game and want to get into a Model Y with HW4 for as cheap as possible (with fair mileage of course)

Try Carvana. I know they sell used, but I’ve sold two cars to them for more than anybody else would pay.

You might be able to get it cheaper outside of Tesla if you are willing to scan through FB market, and regular dealerships. Tesla charges a bit more but you get extra warranty, and their trade in process is as easy as it gets.

Same driveway.com bought my 2018 Accord for 22k whereas everywhere else offered 14-16k. I thought it was a scam but then read about their history. Process was just as easy as carvana.

Driveway also offered us the highest. But they wouldn't accept a title with a lien and the lien release letter. They wanted a clean title. I've sold lots of cars, and never had anyone insist on a clean title when the release letter accompanied the title. Ended up selling it to CarMax for slightly less, but they wouldn't pick it up. I was transferring plates, so it was logistically difficult to get home after completing the sale. CarMax gave us a Lyft ride home. Carvana was the lowest offer. About $5,000 less than CarMax.

Just beware that if you’re doing a FSD transfer, you must maintain ownership of the old vehicle until after you take delivery of the new vehicle. This means that you have to come up with the money to float while waiting. In my situation, the difference between Tesla and others was $200, and it wasn’t worth the hassle.

Wow 24k for 2021 Model Y is awesome How many miles did you have on it?

I had about 42k miles on it