FSD for a reason

FSD is the new luxury

I’m a military veteran, and have quite a bit of chronic pain, especially in my neck and shoulder. Nothing too extreme but driving does become fairly uncomfortable after 30 minutes or so, especially with my arms up holding the steering wheel. That’s why I bought a Tesla, personally. It’s meant a lot more freedom for me, being able to drive a lot more comfortably and for a lot further distances.

Call Uber or taxi if it is not an emergency, and you can't drive.Emergency call an Ambulance. Stop risking other people's life fucking idiot.

Same neck pain. FSD lets me travel. thx for your service

You’ve obviously never used the current FSD. I was using FSD and it slowed down to avoid hitting a marten that crossed the road just in front of the car. A marten. So an animal about the size of a cat. Would I have hit it were I driving? I’m not sure, but it’s at least a 50/50 shot. It’s a better driver than more than three quarters of the people I know, it never falls asleep driving or drives while drunk or medicated or in pain or upset. Also, where do you get off using that level of vitriol against a retiring surgeon traveling to help someone who is in pain and a veteran who likely sustained an injury working for you and is using the feature to get around? Have some empathy if you can’t have respect.

I do have a 2026 Model Y with FSD, and previously owned 2023 model 3. "A 50/50 shot" lord!

FSD is not a fully L4 autonomous system. Not paying attention while using it is dangerous, both for the driver and others. FSD is a L2 system that requires driver attention.

I know there’s still a ton of haters and a bunch of people that are skeptical but I think the data shows and also just from pure experience that FSD is quite simply amazing We really don’t need to be driving anymore. Artificial intelligence and computer vision for driving honestly should just be completely replaced by robots with human supervision I bought my Tesla model Y and instantly bought FSD last year. Based on my auto pilot stats it’s driven 55% of all my miles since 14.2

absolutely fucking wild we have people in a Tesla subreddit thinking that FSD causes more life-threatening situations than actual human drivers

even an L2 system that requires driver attention performs better than human drivers that require full attention human drivers on the road are fucking irresponsible and imbeciles Maybe you’re an excellent driver but you can’t vouch for the millions of other people that are putting on make up or on their cell phone or doing whatever the fuck on their car while driving

So, a system that is being monitored properly by a driver that is paying attention is better than a driver without ADAS help? I agree, but that's not what you were saying. You seem to be stating that Tesla's FSD without supervision is better than human drives and besides that being against the law..it's simply not true. Also, the stats on the Tesla AV system have shown it to be more likely to get in an accident than human drivers. I own a Tesla and have used FSD for over 15,000 miles. I wouldn't trust it on its own. I don't trust ASS in a parking lot. You can save your colorful descriptions of some drivers you may have encountered...they're not facts, not stats based and really not a needed as part of a discussion.

Right? I wasn't asleep!!! I was waking up and needed to get there in 15 min- it was 4 am. I monitored the road the whole way but I also had to be talking to the OR staff on the phone which is safer if not distracted by driving!

I think FSD is excellent for the right person. I'm just not that person and I genuinely hate using it even when it doesn't do stupid things. I'm just a horrendous passenger. I need to drive for my sanity. I cannot ride with other drivers. I hate cabs. I hate sitting monitoriing my Tesla I cannot have a conversation with about what it is going to do next. Genuinely hate it.

You're not being reasonable about what the system actually is. It's a flawed camera only system that has continued to improve, but at base value it is a camera only system which is easily fooled. It has nearly killed me twice having no way of apparently detecting ice on a road surface and still using heavy handed throttle and steering inputs. Who is to blame if the tired "driver" gets into an accident? Now I'm not saying this person's angry response is justified, just the opposite, but you're both completely wrong here. Why are there so many FSD apologists here? It's embarrassing.

Ower of a 2022 model Y hardware 3 with FSD... Night driving was terrible... Was passing a service center randomly last month and when itside to speak to them about it. Turns out the Infra red interior camera was malfunctioning... It was replaced under warranty super quick, super easy... If FSD even stayed the way it currently is on Hardware 3.... I am still a happy customer even after paying 10k for FSD.. it has saved me from other idiots at least 2x that I am aware of!

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> You seem to be stating that Tesla's FSD without supervision is better than human drivers No, I always think there should be a human in the loop. But yes, I am saying that an FSD supervised system + human driver is better than only human driver with no system. Tesla is advertising it specifically with 'Supervised'; the whole car is beeping at you if you're not paying attention or buckled up. > Also, the stats on the Tesla AV system have shown it to be more likely to get in an accident than human drivers. I don't think this is true. By what metric? Where is the data for this? The NHTSA has published numbers for accidents in the US for 2024: https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/nhtsa-estimates-39345-traffic-fatalities-2024 Tesla has their own numbers: https://www.tesla.com/fsd/safety Based on the numbers, it seems pretty safe? Do we believe Tesla's numbers?

It’s nice letting tech have your back. It’s like having a solid backup driver at the touch of a button. I’ll admit I toggle in and out of the system more often than I wish, but I very rarely intervene out of necessity or fear. I’ve used FSD long enough, and in enough variety scenarios, to gauge its ability. In most situations it’s arguably better than the average driver. I say this with the confidence and perspective stemming from my near perfect driving record which happens to span over 40 years and 1/2 million miles. The secret, I’ve found, is knowing when to turn it off or turn it down. It’s not infallible nor particularly cautious with speed. I’ve learned over time when it works really well and when it might struggle or act different enough from my wants that I I’ll want to take over.

Call an ambulance? To take him to the hospital to operate??? lol.

I’m sorry is that a typo? You bought it and have only used it 55% of the time since 14.2?? Do you sure the car with someone who doesn’t use it?

The latest numbers that came from their trial in Austin. There were a few articles written about them. They had a higher accident rate than humans alone. It was also far worse than Waymo. The OP stated they were working on their phone while driving...that's what worries people. FSD is not capable of safely allowing that to happen. There are ways to defeat Tesla's attention-monitoring system...you see people chortling about it in here and other forums. Unfortunately, it wasn't until fairly recently that Tesla started using the word supervised...and that was only because they lost some court cases. There are plenty of people that think it is Full Self Driving and treat it as such....and that's unfortunate.

This. I always turn it off when i near my destination. It can't know where i like to park so i do it myself. Lots of complaints on Reddit about parking lot entrance choice confusion. No kidding! Don't use it for that

Observing the rapid advancement of the past year and a half I’ve been impressed. I expect it to gradually become even more refined, more capable, more customized to the individual as time goes on.

Great to hear! I have a2022 too and while mine is not great at avoiding potholes, it’s awesome on roadtrips!! Great for decreasing fatigue

Ugh, as an ophthalmology resident with frequent home call.. i want this so bad. Have lined up a used tesla sale but of course its right as I wrap up primary call years.

My wife was just saying that all residents should have this car. We know too many stories of bad post call wrecks

OTOH, if you can't stay awake on your way to the hospital, I'm not sure I want you performing my surgery.

>- I'm half asleep and this amazing car drove me in safely as I woke up and managed getting things ready on the phone if you cannot pay attention while driving you should not be driving. period. This is still supervised FOR A REASON. i'd be ok if you were only endangering yourself. but you're not. you're endangering others on the road around you

I don't have a Tesla yet but after trying one with FSD I *really* want one. But every Tesla I pass on the highway has a driver in control. Why do so few people use FSD? It feels like 90% of the reason I want the car.

Don't mind them

you're right - i should just be wide awake the second I get called at 4 am. What kind of fool am I to think that I could operate on someone 40 minutes later (it takes a bit to get someone to the consented, prepped, anesthetized etc). I should just quit. Thanks for being the voice of reason. Don't know how I've done this for 30 years without your wisdom.

nobody was on the road in my town at 4 am. but nice try

Honestly just go test drive it. FSD is phenomenal.

>I don't have a Tesla yet but after trying one with FSD I *really* want one. I did lol

In that case, I completely agree with you. They are all idiots. I don't understand why they purchase the one car in america that can drive itself. Then drive it manually.

Yeah it's PHYSICALLY nicer, as well as mentally. My shoulders are down, I lean back and relax. Felt like stepping 50 years into the future.

No, not nice try. Facts. Please educate yourself on what fsd is and how you're supposed to use it.

I was 100% supervising it Karen. People like you are why doctors are quitting in droves

Well it cost money so...

There are a lot of us with HW3 and below, older cars. FSD mostly sucks for us (lots of weird lane change errors and phantom breaking in my case during free trials.) Also I would assume a lot of us (me!) actually like to drive our speedy electric cars. Don't get me wrong, FSD is mostly amazing in newer HW4 cars, but paying $100/month for it to do what I already don't mind doing is too much. Maybe I'll change my mind when my current HW3 Model 3 lease is up later this year and get a new HW4 equipped model... but I don't think so.

It's probably because 80-90% Tesla that are on the roads today don't have FSD

At least we agree that you sound like a fool.

your genius is astounding- you could be President!

$3.30 a day isn't a lot of money.

That isn’t a lot I agree, but you can do more with that money too specially if you go out very rarely or not go very far.

$99 + taxes a month is a lot, especially if you have a lot of other subscriptions already as it is.

Surgeon too and like FSD because it takes away a lot of the mental work of driving. I got it so I could get home at the end of the day when I’m tired though rather than going in early.