Speeding issue with FSD

you can set your own speed offset. I chose +5mph.

Set to chill or sloth. It still speeds through school and construction zones. Don't rely on it.

I'm waiting for the class action lawsuit to arrive. How can the government let a vehicle manufacturer have speed profiles that allow the vehicle to travel intentionally over the speed limit, and not by a little amount too. Standard mode had me doing 77 in a 55 at 3am in dense fog one morning. Holy shit. Did they not just get hit with a $240 million dollar compensation payout for one of their machines running a stop sign? Do the people that develop FSD even know how to drive?

FSD 13 yes. FSD14 no.

I completely agree. I sometimes drive on country roads near small towns where you get a ticket for going less than 5mph over the speed limit. It was convenient to be able to dynamically adjust max speed offset through the steering wheel dial. Another pet peeve is how closely FSD follows (actually tailgates) at highway speeds. Tesla should be responsible for windshield replacement when it’s damaged from FSD following too closely against driving rules and standards.

On my highways if you’re not going 70 in a 55 people will be eternally pissed at you

Doesn't your scroll wheel adjust your preferred speed?

Nooooo. No it does not

Hw3 vehicles still can adjust speed. At least in my 19 m3p I can still. The hw4 loaner I had , I couldn't.

That's not a solution when it goes dangerously under the speed of traffic. And as you mentioned even those modes can go dangerously fast.

I have mixed feelings on this post. On the one hand, the profiles go way too fast in certain situations due to the speed management being fundamentally broken in v14. (It appears to use what it looks like the speed limit should be instead of what it actually is because it doesn't trust map data or its own visual detection of speed limit signs because they are too error prone.) On the other hand, not providing a mode that will speed excessively is inherently less safe. Not giving a 20mph over mode doesn't mean that people give up and don't go that fast. It means they don't use the system and go that fast. Would you rather have the idiot doing 20 over driving themselves while looking at their phone or have FSD doing it for them? That's the real trade off you are deciding between.

Ok, but I've had chill doing 72 in a 55 before and passing most cars on the road while sloth dropped to 55 and was a road hazard. The car seemed to have decided the speed limit was 70 rather than 55 and discarded the actual speed limit as bad data.

Not with HW4. It’s one of the very few disappointments that I have with it compared to HW3 software. I miss the ability to dial the desired speed.

In the Silicon Valley Standard is 68-ish while Hurry has taken me up to 80.

You can use the accelerator pedal.

Only if you hold it down and force the speed manually. It doesn't stay faster on v14.

Yes. It’s like driving on rails

That's not a solution as that stops all braking and requires constant input. Continuously swapping profiles is a much better option at that point as you get 15 seconds or so of reasonable speed before having to adjust again. Both are still fundamentally broken work arounds.

Be careful what you wish for lol - the next question could be - how could the government allow a vehicle to be produced that can go past a legal speed limit? It was a question asked in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts when discussing speed limits. "Don't let them make a car that can go faster than the legal speed limit" I understand your gripe but don't wish for too much government involvement.

Yes it does. You adjust the profile accordingly. It is admittedly extremely difficult to do, requiring actually touching the thumbwheel while self-driving. A great peril for the thumbless.

Mine just puts it in different modes in FSD. Beast mode, for example. Can’t choose the speed like I used too

Yes yes and efn yes.  Come on Tesla you are not always right.  This speed limit fiasco has been a thing for at least two years.  I didn't sign up for fsd only to have to check my speed every efn 5 seconds.  My driving record is spot less.  One ticket for 15mph over could cause my insurance to double and it makes my ulcer worse.  Just let us choose a speed profile or choose total speed control.  Whats the problem with that?  I have been pro tesla for 7 years.  This is my only real gripe over and over.  If I get a ticket you will join me in court.

I wish there was an easier method to just slow down a bit with you disengaging. Like press and hold the speed limit sign on the screen would be awesome

You make a valid point, but I think my point got missed. It's not that I don't want the car to be able to go over the speed limit; I do. But I want to make that decision, not some rando software engineer.

I agree with you - there should be a setting on the car that is a max speed. Out of everything tesla can create why this isn't a feature is mind boggling!

All I want it to do is keep up with the car in front and not camp in the passing lane. So my top speed is set higher than the speed limit just in case traffic is flowing faster. It’ll just go slow if there’s lots of traffic. I’m surprised I haven’t got a ticket, knock on wood. Have to be careful and scroll the top speed down if there’s no traffic. Still needs improvement where I’m mentally willing it to back to the right lane after passing someone. Sometimes it does and sometimes I have to use the signal. I’m on HW3 but heard HW4 is much better

It truly is mind boggling. This is why I did not buy FSD for $8K 10 days ago. And I'm sure they cringe every time they get my recorded messages after FSD disconnect.

You cannot. You must pump the accelerator or it’ll turn off FSD. I have doubts that you or artisticarnold even drive a Tesla or use FSD. If you depress the accelerator for more than a few seconds, alarms will begin to ring. If you don’t release the accelerator after the alarm starts, it turns off full self drive and dings you from unsafe driving. How about instead of having to solve this issue as a driver that they fix the problem that they caused. No one asked for this goofy shit. Sloth? Mad max? How about speed profiles where we can select the offeet that we’d like? It’s not even something that would take them time to implement.. they broke this in an update.

The point of this post is to draw attention to this obvious mistake, made by a company that pretends to be very proud of this technology. They broke it in an update and they need to fix it in an update. This is perhaps the lowest and juiciest hanging fruit I’ve seen in software design. Fixing this will substantially improve FSD user experience.

Surprisingly, HW3 has some essential functionality that HW4 doesn’t. They took away our ability to encourage the car to not change lanes as often. We can’t control the speed offset at all. I’ve seen the car doing more than 10 miles an hour over the speed limit in chill mode. In hurry mode, it’s a regular occurrence to see it more than 20 miles an hour over the speed limit. Standard falls somewhere between these two. The main issue with this is that I can’t reliably find a setting for the car to go 10 miles an hour over the speed limit. In my area this is the typical speed of travel. I can’t imagine how furious I would be if I ended up getting a ticket in chill mode. The police will leave you alone if you do 7 to 10 miles an hour over.. but they will pull you over if you do more than 10 miles an hour over the speed limit. My current choices are sloth mode (often dangerously below the speed limit) or other modes that put me at risk of an accident or ticket. This is on Tesla to fix. It’s embarrassing that they let this problem go so long.

It’s a legit concern and doesn’t seem like a lot to ask from Tesla. First world problems but I’d rather not worry about scrolling the speed up and down depending on traffic or the speed limit. Wanna just set it and forget it. And i don’t want a ticket either. Come on Tesla do it!

Imagine. Speed profiles 1-5 (or they can keep the goofy sloth-mad max names). Each one has a default goal offset, but they can be adjusted in settings. Sloth - 5 mph below to no offset, chill - max 5mph above, standard - max 9mph above, hurry - max 14mph above, mad max - max 22mph over. I don’t think it’s useful to diminish the issue by calling at a first world problem. Looking at it from the perspective of it being a system, it’s a serious problem. It’s a pretty significant distraction and certainly increases risk. Choosing a setting called standard and realizing the car is driving more than 30% above the speed limit is quite alarming.

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Yes, but now I'm having to handle half the control of the car when it's supposed to be driving itself and could if Tesla hadn't removed a critical feature.

Why this bot is blindly arguing for a company’s objective mistake eludes me. Maybe they have HW3 and aren’t familiar with the actual issue?

And how did your chosen speed hold up in traffic?