How did I do

wtf are some of those fees? Dealerships really love to screw their customers. “Emission inspection fee”… lol?

I have the same car but at 36k miles and got appraised at $23k, this could’ve been lower or mine should’ve been higher

$500 for a carfax report ?!?

Deputy

When did you buy your RAV4?

1 year and 4 months ago roughly

Yeah it’s insane. This was after getting other fees removed.

All depends on getting a good price for the trade in and looks like it’s not a great price

If you’re happy driving it, don’t look back. Just enjoy it.

Wow, they really screw you with all those fees. I would have requested to take them off. They will definitely make money off your trade-in.

Idk man. Coulda gotten a 2023-2024 for 30k with less miles and hw4

Have him under bluebook and then whacked another $1500 off in fees. Fucking dealerships.

Well you got taken to the cleaners with that trade in value for starters.

I traded in my 2021 Model 3 with fully paid FSD and 22,000 miles for $23,400.

I have a 2021 model Y AWD (41750 miles) which i will be soon upgrading. Tesla is offering me $20400, Carmax around the same. Carvana offering is $23700

Beware. 2021 has battery issues. A lot of ppl reported it on reddit.

When it comes to all those fees, I would have been like Neo in the Matrix. "How about I give you the finger, and you give me my money back?"

Gov fees? lol

Did you own the toyota or how much was left to pay off? Thinking of doing the same

How do they even do an Emission Inspection? “Hmm, no tail pipe. Smell anything Bob?”

It says on the paper that the payoff was $14k

Next time just outright ask them for the outdoor price, which is everything that will be on the bill of sale. Then ask them to see all the fees and if they run you around on not giving any of those two out, it is because of the hidden fees they have. When it comes to these buy here pay here / we finance everyone, they will always have these fees. Go a legit dealership with brand reputation and you can call them and the brand out for things like this…but they know they can’t do all that stuff.

You'll get to whoever is offering $23k, they'll do a hands on appraisal and the actual offer will be the same as everyone else.

Congrats

Why’d you post it you already knew you did spectacularly poorly?

What if they’re not?

Unfortunately, that wasn’t a great trade. You traded a reliable car with less miles for one that will is out of warranty and will be out of battery warranty depending on the state soon. Couple things to look for will be wheel bearings, and pack degradation.

No FSD, yeah I wouldn’t be happy either

Not a fan of high mileage used EVs. Time will tell.

Auto nation is the worst try to just cancel the whole transaction.

The mileage on your Tesla is very high. You legit traded your vehicle for one with 16,000 more miles on it. Yeah, I don’t think you did very well at all here.

this is SEXY AF

Which trim? And what condition? I’m assuming like new

$500 for a $45 carfax report.

Your rav4 would have outlasted the Tesla

They made you pay $500 for a Carfax report? The price for 1 report is $45. Dealers buy in bulk and only pay $15 - $20 per report.

Customer APPRCIATION

This. They traded for a car with *more* miles.

Honestly would have kept the Rav4

It was a good move, u cut your car debt by $20k. Only thing I don’t like about autonation used is they don’t negotiate, they say they base their prices off what the local area is selling similar cars for but to that I say, the car dealerships advertised price is nearly never the best price. I think you could have gotten that for $18k/$19k if you called around. Trade in for that was probably $16k/$17k.

What the fuck is “customer apprciation”?😭

Our prior 2021 LR DM MY had 53k miles and was never in for service. Friend had the same with 80k miles and the same, never was in for any issues. Check lower control arm bolts.

Trading a 5 year old RAV4 for a 5 year old EV, with more mileage and punching close to 100k miles. Yep. I guess what’s important is you’re happy.

Forget that. The fact they considered buying a pre-comfort suspension model is the biggest mistake.

Doesn't have battery issues no more than the Rav. Just routine replacement every 3 yrs. Thats the least of OP's concern.

Not just that. Control arm bushings/breaking too.

No this is true. The 2021s had all sorts of problems.

Wheel bearings? Thats one I haven't heard of. You mean suspension arm bushing?

I was talking about HV battery.

That as well. But wheel bearings are starting to fail more regularly around that many miles.

Tell me this is BS just to get us raging over how stupid this is.

They seem happy about it, but they wanted to know how their deal was. My advice is to not look anymore for better deals, just drive and enjoy the car.

Learning from massive mistakes is the human experience in a nutshell

I just saw that… wtf is that?! “We’re going to charge you $250 because we appreciate you.” 😂

VIT

Ahhh HV. Perhaps anecdotally but statistically its a rather insignificant difference from '22 MY or other '21 models. Wouldn't overly concern me.

Where are you hearing this? I stay close to these kinds of reports but this is new to me. My wife has a '21, myself a '22. Just the '21? Imagine it would have to be looked at by mo/yr not just year given how Tesla production changes more so quarterly than annually.

He actually received $250 for whatever “custom appreciation” is. Note the + symbol in the middle.

The Tesla service center.

Rpeputable source, they would know. AI supports this although thru 3rd party sources, not Tesla officially as expected. GTK, thanks.

I would recommend to buy directly from Tesla.

I definitely missed the symbols

The left side + is adding to the price, but I think you’re right that the right side + would be adding to the trade-in value.

Yeah. Dude also got a 2021 model Y...which I think is the year that has the highest battery failure iirc.....

Am I missing something? How did they cut their car debt by $20k? It looks like they still owed $14k on their car. The final balance says they owe $17k. That isn’t reducing the debt, that is an increase.

HW3....not good.

Oh you would just request no fees? Lmao as you wish your majesty

I negotiate all my deals in writing even before I set foot at the dealership. That includes vehicle pricing and trade in. I also get reapproved for a loan with my bank so I am in out of the dealership. A little research can go a long way to save a lot of $$. But don’t take my word for it.

Did u actually do any research?

Wow. I just read through these comments and no wonder the guy deleted his reddit profile. What a bunch of a-holes. I joined this sub because I just got a high mileage '21 MY that I'm super excited about and I was looking forward to sharing and learning. No way am I doing that now.

=Very Important Tax.

My 2020 MYLR was doing good until I had to replace both upper and lower control arms

Yes you literally just tell them, “I know for a fact all these fees are optional according to the internet and my research. Take them off and come back to me with a real deal” Dealer took them off after he “talked to his manager” And that was that.

Dude got banned or deleted his account lol

Sheesh 85k miles?!

How many miles?

Also, 2021 Rav 4 is a good vehicle. If it was in good condition, should have kept it.

That’s why I hate dealers. They make up fees and they remove them to make the customer feel better.

idk i did a carvana, we had a rip in the seat amd they still just took it onquestions asked after a quick test drive around the parking lot lol

not true at all... toyota quality has degraded terribly in tthe last 10 years. I build software for fixed ops (service) we track this across throusands of different dealers, toyotas are no linger the mr reliables they use to be

What's the trade pay off 14k?

Enjoy your car!