Should i just keep my my 2023 hw3 but it has autopilot Did aitopilot just change name?
You are correct, the new cars don't have it. They are retiring the Autopilot name in the process. I don't use autosteer much, but it would drive me crazy if I didn't have the option. I don't really want to use FSD.
are the other threads with hundreds of comments not good enough? We had to make another??
Either buy a used one (not from Tesla) or keep your (probably perfectly fine) 2023 if you use autopilot.
Not a name change. Enhanced Autopilot is no longer available. 2026s now come with the less-capable cruise control (with traffic awareness). I spoke to a Tesla sales rep about this just before your post to learn if Enhanced Autopilot transfer will be honored alongside FSD's (current) March 31 2026 FSD deadline. They said no. Appears we would have to trade in before February 14 2026 and purchase FSD ($8k) to keep more advanced functionality. Odd move as it disincentivizes owners with Enhanced Autopilot from a trade in. Not interested in trading in to degrade functionality (to Cruise Control).
See if you can get the FSD for cheap on your current car and then if you buy a new Tesla, you can just transfer it. But make sure you check deadlines for each since FSD outright purchase last date is Feb 14.
yeah no more autosteer in new vehicles
Absolutely bonkers that Tesla is doing this. They are making their cars worse for new buyers
It’s a ploy to get you to subscribe to FSD
I'm out. Won't get another Tesla if basic lane centering isn't standard like ALL other manufacturers.
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Isn’t the EAP to FSD cost much cheaper - like 2-4k? I know it’s not the full 8k since you’re already halfway there. Check in-app. I would upgrade, then transfer.
The people that this matters to should just not buy a Tesla. That’s the solution. They’re not taking it from current owners. If enough people choose another vehicle instead they’ll get the hint.
Yeah, I get that but it’s just awful. I will not buy a Tesla now because of crap that that. I hope the Chinese EVs come to the US soon
Yes but the quality of those other manufacturers is suspect. Tried a Polestar rental recently in the past year and it almost tried to run me off the road when it encountered an exit off ramp like how AP was 7-8 YEARS ago.
My question is do they still have the capability and they are just removing it. If so just go buy a comma 4x we've already developed lane centering tech through that and you can get it back.
Atleast it's a post talking about the actual car and it's features, and not some idiotic "Here's a photo of my mass produced car I'm now part of the family" post.
transfer is gone too. no more transferring is allowed
With the new cars not having Autosteer, does that make the used cars that do have it more valuable?
To be fair it’s hardly standard on all manufacturers. It usually requires one of the upper trim levels.
So now a 2025 junipers are a unicorn?
Probably not in the dollar sense but more valuable to me !
Lmao quality issues are Tesla's number 1 problem. That's why people have checklists of what to look for when taking delivery.
Honestly I've seen people say it both ways what you need to do is call the Tesla sales department and ask them your question because they are the ones going to give you the correct answer
Exactly. I was going to buy a Performance Y. But now I might not. I’m not writing online complaining about the removal, I’m simply not putting in an order. The people complaining online still want a Tesla LOL otherwise there’s no reason to complain, just get something else. Everyone that already has it doesn’t need to complain either since they are not removing it from existing users.
I think Tesla is moving on to AI. They don’t really care cars. So sign on their wagon get the FSD or don’t buy their car.
No
Full Self-Driving (Supervised) Transfer Program For a limited time, customers who place an order for a new Tesla vehicle by March 31, 2026 may qualify for transferring Full Self-Driving (FSD) (Supervised) from their current vehicle to their new vehicle. https://www.tesla.com/support/fsd-transfer
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Screenshot your installed options? Pretty sure you’re confusing AP vs EAP. Do you have navigate on autopilot with automatic exits and entering the freeway, auto park, and summon?
True, to some you require the next trim up. But in others it's just standard. But even with the next trim up like my 2022 Forte, it cost me 22.5k. Half my 51k Model Y awd. And its lane centering works great.
You are correct. Just checked specs. I have autopilot, not enhanced autopilot.
I have a 2020 Model Y w/ H3. Please answer this embarrassingly dumb question for me. I find myself not using FSD because it changes lanes so much. There are so many times I would just like to have it on cruise control where it stays safely in the lane. Is this auto-pilot? Do I have that feature, and I'm just haven’t figured out how to use it correctly?
I wouldn't be surprised if they reintroduced it later as a lower cost subscription.
They should just charge a nominal fee for auto steer, like 1k or something. BMW did / I think still does something similar for their advanced drivers assistance system and allows for like hands free highway driving, auto park, etc. I believe it’s $1700 for that extra pkg
Absolutely they are, since the Juniper refresh started in with model year 2026.
No, 2026 junipers ordered before mid-Jan still have autosteer.
Most of the cars have it as standard (line centering). Toyotas, Honda, VW, etc. can you give example of new cars without line centering !?
Muskster needs to hit his numbers to keep the board happy.
Ordered a Junioer Model Y from Colombia in November 2025 and is supposed to be delivered in March. Will it come with Auto steer?
Yeah keep the other one if you want the autopilot. Price will probably go up on the old ones in the used market since it has it included.
Personally, I found regular AP to be crappy, and either used FSD or just drove myself. I’m not mourning the loss of AP at all.
In your Autopilot menu does it say anything about Autosteer (beta)? If the option is there then enable it and activate autopilot and you’ll get the cruise control with lane keep.
Same. I have a 2021 MY and I was planning on getting a M3 this year, but I’m looking at other EVs now that don’t pull such nonsense. Such a shortsighted move on Tesla’s side IMHO.
Well I mean the ones that released from March 2025 to Jan 2026. Didn't realize the last year ones were called 2026.
This is disappointing. I use auto-steer a lot.
A couple years ago I had a Nio or something as a rental, same thing, it lost the line while taking a junction to another freeway and almost ran me off the edge.
Like those checklists don’t exist for Porsche, Audi, BMW, MB, etc? I’ve had horrible panel alignment issues on BMW and Audi before.
Why not buy a used from Tesla?
Prospective Model Y buyer here and really disappointed by Tesla’s decision. Even my wife’s basic Hyundai Tucson has lane centering, and a 10-year warranty to boot. What a dumb common feature to remove. Now I’m back to reconsidering all the options after having settled on the MY.
I think that’s the case for most people. They just want to complain though.
I got a Kia K4 as a rental car. I’m not sure how much they cost but I was jealous of how well lane centering and adaptive cruise control worked. I could switch lanes and it stayed on didn’t slam on the brakes. It was really nice.
None of the rental cars I’ve had recently actively center you in lane. Everyone has Lane Departure Warning which is a completely different capability. That’s just beeping when you go over the line.
Do you think they’ll offer auto steer transfer to a new car? Lol
It would be a weird move, but I also wouldn't be surprised. I don't like the direction the automotive industry is going with subscriptions.
I’m hoping for BYD to enter the American market one day
I don't think it's happening. By 2027, software from China or in Chinese cars will be banned and by 2029, hardware completely banded in cars. Very slim to none chance for Byd to be coming here. Geely is sort of in trouble too since they own Volvo. Should be interesting how this plays out.
Same. I tried fsd on HW3 and it was terrible.
They really don't. Not like the Tesla subreddits people think it's basically a requirement these days and it really was
This is correct! My 2026 MYP that I bought last Dec have it.
I use Autopilot all the time. I have HW3, so FSD didn’t wow me at all and wouldn’t be worth the purchase or subscription. Autopilot is way better than regular cruise control. I use it often, and I’m thankful for it.
Mazda, only on top signature trims last I checked.
I beg to differ. I went through a checklist for an Audi A3 and still ended up lemoning it. Also regularly scour NHTSA TSBs for issues to report under warranty for every manufacturer.
It's really only making me look towards R2 or orther EVs for next vehicle. No ADAS in this price segment is simply unacceptable in 2026. AP was already cutting it thin with no lane change included without EAP or FSD active. This makes used vehicle a significantly better value proposition than new. Bonkers.
I asked a few times but no one seemed to have an answer. Is lane control/auto pilot going into FSD on only new purchases? Cause I can’t imagine they can take away a feature that it was bought with?
Well If you had that experience we can just generalize that for everyone everywhere. Great idea
Heard Tesla might start charging for OTA updates too unless you subscribe to FSD. I wonder what Tesla would charge for a single OTA update.
I doubt that...FSD take rate it under 20%, so 80% currently have Autopilot. So if just a third use it that's more than all the FSD users.
Less than 20% of Tesla owners have FSD.
its the cars best feature money grab move
How can you buy FSD for cheap. It’s a fixed $8k right?
It will likely have autosteer removed.
True that. Tesla is taking on a gamble At this price point, some ADAS even offer the ability to change lanes just by triggering the turn signal. BMW offers collaborative steering - you can avoid a pothole without disengaging the AP
Thats why my itch to upgrade from my 24 MYLR is pretty much gone. A tesla without autosterr is just another car.
If they want people to buy FSD then simply lower the price to 4 or 5K and allow people to not subscribe but to pay it slowly over time at no interest. The way they are doing it doesn't make any sense.
Some cars have enhanced autopilot and to upgrade it to FSD is just $2k.
If you bought the car with AutoPilot you will keep it. If you buy a new car with TACC then you’ll only get TACC.
I wouldn't own another car w/o FSD.
Why? I thought I'd miss autopilot in my Cybertruck, but now I couldn't imagine owning a car w/o FSD.
I think what you'll see is a base tier of supervised FSD @ a lower price, and an upper tier of unsupervised FSD.
Right, and the lane keep assist, or whatever tesla is calling it is a comparable product to what those brands offer.. I'd argue "autopilot" was well beyond their lane keep products.
Same here. I don't think people realize the difference between lane departure assist and actual autopilot. Those were not the same product.
not how that works
I was fine with autopilot, and had no desire to ever buy or subscribe to FSD. Then I bought a vehicle that came with it and now I wont own another vehicle w/o a system comparable to FSD.
It's my understanding they were no longer putting development time into autopilot.
They should just chart $30 a month of supervised FSD. If you miss autopilot, just enable FSD w/o a destination while you're on the highway and works in a very similar manner.
yes
They will still have a system like your wifes Tucson, or a basic lane centering. It just wont be as capable as Autopilot was, which is miles behind FSD. The two systems compared below. [https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en\_il/GUID-ADA05DFF-963D-477D-9A51-FA8C8F6429F1.html](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_il/GUID-ADA05DFF-963D-477D-9A51-FA8C8F6429F1.html) [https://ownersmanual.hyundai.com/docview/webhelp/doc/8bf31204-4eb5-48f8-a3be-f1c555de698f/id6690c7bd777.html](https://ownersmanual.hyundai.com/docview/webhelp/doc/8bf31204-4eb5-48f8-a3be-f1c555de698f/id6690c7bd777.html)
Absolutely how that works. They have stripped away: free supercharging for life (old MS), paid for FSD, paid for EAP, acceleration boost, free premium connectivity (old MS and MX) from used cars traded in to them.
They will have a basic lane centering feature like other manufacturers. Comparisons can be found below. [https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en\_il/GUID-ADA05DFF-963D-477D-9A51-FA8C8F6429F1.html](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_il/GUID-ADA05DFF-963D-477D-9A51-FA8C8F6429F1.html) [https://ownersmanual.hyundai.com/docview/webhelp/doc/8bf31204-4eb5-48f8-a3be-f1c555de698f/id6690c7bd777.html](https://ownersmanual.hyundai.com/docview/webhelp/doc/8bf31204-4eb5-48f8-a3be-f1c555de698f/id6690c7bd777.html) [https://www.toyota.com/safety-sense/section/discover/feature/pcspd/vehicle/rav4/2025/](https://www.toyota.com/safety-sense/section/discover/feature/pcspd/vehicle/rav4/2025/)
Buying from Tesla means they can do anything, you either agree and buy it or not. They have the right to remove anything that wants, it’s up to you, the buyer to whether accept or not.
No, it’s for himself. He has the target to meet so he can get the $$$ .
Autopilot disappearing is only in the US?
I fully realize this. Rental cars are special downgraded versions of cars that are cheap and stripped from many functions. Look at any Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Subaru , etc. all of them have line centering (not line departure ).
I never checked Mazda , so honestly I do not know. It looks like this year Mazda does provides more options as standard, including CTS. But I may be wrong
Thanks, that’s good to know!
Ford tore apart a bunch of Chinese EVs in their lab and decided to replicate their cost structure. Hopefully it works out for them. And us.
I think they're killing/slowing sales for a reason. There's got to be something happening behind the curtain that will change in a few months.
FSD is FSD. No need to worry if FSD has lane centering 🤣
Thanks for the info! I guess no BYD for me then 🥲
You could buy one in Canada and drive it down though.
Yes, $2000 to go from EAP to FSD lifetime.
Even the most basic Hyundais do this. It’s standard like power windows at this point. This is a big mistake.
I'm horribly impatient with FSD. Drives me nuts the way it hesitates and doesn't maintain speed.
The political powers in this country are not about to let that happen. They hate the idea of US consumers having free choice.
Lane assist is not the same as lane centering. And the new models sold no longer have lane centering. You can get plenty of $30k cars with lane centering.
Auto Pilot is no longer standard. Tesla is trying to push everyone toward an FSD subscription. Definitely don't replace your 2023 with a new 2026. I'm keeping my 2021 HW3 Model Y indefinitely, mostly for this reason (it also has ultrasonic sensors, which they've sense removed FFS).
Wait why didn’t I think of this. I will do some research on that, thank you!
They don't want people to buy it.
They really overestimate how many people care about FSD and how many people think it’s worth what it costs
Oh agree, they genuinely want continued prescription income. It's honestly BS and I know will blow up in their face in the future.
It hardware also. Some suppliers are own by former intelligence agency. There is a list compile by the Senate.
At this time only US and Canada. Grok says they are unable to remove it here in Australia as we have legislation for lane keeping software being mandatory in new vehicles. Edit: so it seems that they will need to at least upkeep autopilot here. We are a fairly small market being 1%/2% of total market though.
Yup. I use autopilot every day and will not be buying another Tesla without it. I probably wouldn't buy another Tesla anyway, because...you know. But now I REALLY won't.
I don’t think you are getting my question - in new cars you will not have autopilot/lane centering UNLESS you pay for the FSD subscription. I was asking if they are taking it out of already purchased cars as well
Only in North America.
Went from a MYP to a BYD Shark (pickup). Insane build quality and noise deadening is better than wifes 2024 Range Rover vogue. Hopefully u can buy them in from Canada soon.
Wait, what? I have a Juniper and it still has basic autosteer
All car I companies are doing it
I won’t be back with all these anti customer moves
Don’t get me wrong, I’m in the same boat and think this entire plan is truly moronic… But you can’t compare a HW3 car with a 2026 car. Night and day different tech when it comes to processing power, cameras, etc. Which, again, is why this path forward is absolutely baffling. It really does feel like they’re (he’s) trying to kill off Tesla.
Except that's not lane centering but LKA, a primitive assist that's been around for ages. This is the actual lane centering on a Tucson and Teslas won't have anything comparable anymore [https://ownersmanual.hyundai.com/docview/webhelp/doc/8bf31204-4eb5-48f8-a3be-f1c555de698f/idc97669c99f8.html](https://ownersmanual.hyundai.com/docview/webhelp/doc/8bf31204-4eb5-48f8-a3be-f1c555de698f/idc97669c99f8.html)
Which is great if you can get FSD. People in the UK or elsewhere… good luck!
No way in hell I would buy another Tesla . You can take your buggy FSD and shove it up you know where as far as I am concerned. 🤔
Its only in the US bcs here (EU) that shit is legally required (yes lane assist & other ADAS systems are legally required).
What are tax implications and insurance? Seems hard to do?
Im out.
If you would have bought it last week, you would have autopilot. They turned it off for all new sales, including existing inventory that already had it included. They didn't even lower any prices when they disabled the feature!
My ‘22 tundra blows. It’s like a pinball. Don’t know if newer models are better. Just sold it because I couldn’t stand it.
I did 90% of a 1100km trip with autopilot and it was great, did what it was suppose to do and don't need FSD for nothing, I'm from europe btw.
2026 models purchased in 2025 still have it.
FSD is pretty amazing on surface streets, but it kind of sucks on open freeways especially since you can't control the speed. Just keep me in my chosen lane at my chosen speed.
Tundra had a more serious issue with the actual engine .... Good, you sold it
I tried FSD for two months on HW3 and honestly prefer autopilot. I just want to stay in one lane on my commute to work and chill with autopilot, not deal with whatever nonsense FSD is trying to do. The problem with FSD even on chill mode is maintaining speed and distance between cars in front of me. Autopilot does it better. FSD would be nice for city streets but it doesn’t have any flow with stop signs and is too clunky to work with the other cars. Not worth the $108 a month.
Yeah once Tesla fails to grow sales again in another quarter they are going to change their stance on this. Tesla is officially on the “we’re just trying random stuff to increase revenue by any means” stage. They have no long term plan and severely underestimated how beneficial their tax credits were helping sales.
A lot just have the safety feature lane keep assist which will usually nudge you back into the lane once it detects you are leaving the lane, With those you have to manually steer to stay in the center of the lane. Lane centering and autopilot is different as it's actually keeping you in the center of the lane. A lot of manufacturers do offer it now though. Honda's have it on pretty much all their Trim levels (LKAS) Toyota also has it on pretty much all their trims (Toyota LTA) Mazda only on it's highest trim Cruising & Traffic Support (CTS) Ford is complicated but some trim levels only have the Lane-Keeping System (Standard) Chevy basically only has it's Lane Keep Assist (Standard) unless you either get the highest trim packages or pay extra. VW pretty much standard on all models all trims Travel Assist (Proactive Centering) BMW - Not included with base models and usually a extra package. Mercedes - Not included with base models, costs extra
How about in 2021 you had autopilot with lane change and it would do highway to highway if you were using navigation. Poof gone. Even though it was a feature of the car. Edited: Autopilot used to be more than just cruise control. You could use the turn signal and car would change lanes automatically. If you were using navigation, car would automatically use freeway interchanges.
Yep Tesla is tanking the hopes of freedom to drive. It’ll be I-Robot next
What?
It is quite a gamble but frankly people are wrong about every other car having an autopilot equivalent. The lane keeping on my Bolt was terrible. It bounced between lanes and was jerky. And you had to keep steering. The old Autopilot was above and beyond most offerings but I do think Tesla highly overestimates the consumer value on FSD. Even if you could objectively find a way to value FSD at $99, that still doesn’t mean consumers will act accordingly. For example, I used to spend like 12 hours driving to Vegas on the weekends to avoid paying $200 on an airline ticket. Even if the value is there, it’s just too easy for people to say never mind I’ll drive.
Dont you get bored during the 12 hour drive?
Only because there is no competition from Chinese market in US,they will flop in Canada
Don't alienate your faithful Tesla owners, Tesla. This move is just dumb and I can't get behind it or defend the brand with decisions like this. I love FSD. It should really be included in the price of my car though. But, I do use it all the time. If I had to pay $99 a month forever and the car is cheaper, okay. However, auto steer gone? Dumb decision. My other half uses auto steer but is not comfortable and will never use FSD. Specially in our Canadian weather.
HW4 Is another ballpark
Ford has been so bad for so long don’t get your hopes up..
It is there!! Sweet. Thank you. But does that disable FSD? I saw it is the currently activated option in that same menu. Is it an either/or scenario?
Yes, I believe it's Autopilot (TACC+Autosteer), or FSD. Can't have both enabled.
Tesla FSD does not avoid pot holes
Yes that's what I am saying, BMW lets you tug the steering a bit FSD keeps the steering locked, moving it breaks the FSD So collaborative steering is something that AP and FSD lack
I have a MYP order from Nov 21st, coming to Mexico. No VIN yet. Im not taking delivery if it doesnt come with Autosteer
Can you ask the service advisor?
Yes, and that's the problem with the majority of the comments on here. Everyone is saying Tesla is taking something away that is also a free feature on "insert brand" car. I'd argue autopilot was lane centering on steroids, and other brands are offering "lane assist" as their free feature. Now Tesla is on par with the base offering of everything other manufacturer, which is lane assist. Dumb move IMO, but no one else was offering a feature close to Autopilot for free.
The new Tesla's without Autosteer don't seem on par with the other brands because it doesn't steer for you. I can do my daily couple hours on the highway with another brand now and never be responsible for any steering.
Yep.
It is. Wonder if they will bring it back when sakes drop.
Nah my experience with fsd on hw3 seems more like hw4 , at least mine does On a beta update
Lol just get FSD and move on
I bought a MYP with autopilot in the build contract. Tesla only delivered TACC! what's up with that?
You should check the exact wording on your purchase agreement as if thats the case its illegal and you can refuse the car for not being what you paid for
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