New Model Y vs. Used Model Y

Probably not the answer you’re looking for but it depends on how much money you want to spend. If you have money to get the new one, it’s the better car. If you don’t, get a used one. It’s a great car as well and it’s not a huge difference when compared to the new one. Then there’s depreciation and all that as well.

Used is currently the better buy. However, pricing is kind of all over the board. I would have as much patience as possible because pricing is not likely going to be going up.

For me it is always new for electric. You never know what were the charging habits of the previous owner. They make the most difference.

The improvements are kinda huge though. It depends on your budget really, but if you getting legacy definitely get the later year models with insulated glass, and newer chip. Don’t know what year, prolly at least 2022. Just know the range, comfort, and hw4 isn’t there. If you can get used 2026, maybe that makes sense.

I would say the used pre-juniper are a better value (slightly used cars almost always are) but the Juniper is pretty sexy. I would take a pre-juniper over a "standard" juniper anyways.

If you can get the top trim of juniper then get it. But if not get an older 2024 AWD or performance, same computer and camera quality, still a decent suspension and looks better in the front (imop)

I’m jealous of the deep red. Too bad not available in the USA.

Haha it’s actually the ultra red that is just in a dark environment

Yeah good call I’d say go with a 2023 or newer if going used.

There are too many variables to answer that question for all scenarios. Price, condition, history, location, expectations, ... How long is a length of string?

Yeah the new Standard Model Y is an interesting trim…

Did this exact thing. Still has warranty, and option to extend. I had to price around but finally found one with zero accidents.

We are older, like late-60s and mid-70s. She looked for a car to replace the last one we’d bought which was about 24 years ago. We have NEVER owned a new car, always used. When she decided on a MY we bought new. After all, from all those years of driving a car forever, having always paid cash, we had put away more than enough to pay cash for whatever we wanted.

even the worst chargers won't affect the battery more than -10% capacity

used HW4, sell a few years later to get a used Juniper

:-(

New cars are for suckers. New Teslas are for rich people or HUGE suckers. I bought my MYP 1 year old with less than 10k miles for HALF the new price.

This. Look for something from about July onward of 2023. That will get comfort suspension and new chip and should also get HW4 and matrix headlights. Plus, if you can get a late 2023 with all these specs the car will be identical to anything built in 2024/25 pre-Juniper.

It’s so region specific. In my area prices on pre-HW4 Y’s have come down but used Y’s with HW4 have held firm if not increased slightly.

You said you made a review? Can you please link to it? And which model year legacy did you compare it to?

Here’s the link!! https://youtu.be/-HEiz_PmLBE?si=PE-63-Zn5pE40YyO

Just got a used 23 Y with hw4 in October. Had a 21 Y with 90k miles on it as my trade. Primarily got rid of it due to user inflicted issues lol. But, I will never buy a new ev again. Cost of ownership of the 23 one will be half that of the 21. Edit - bought the 21 new in June of 21.

10% is a big chunk. Even more if you charge only 80% It's a personal choice but I don't want any new (used in this case) car that I buy to come with that much degradation. If money was the problem, I wouldn't buy electric in first place

I’d take new juniper over used (whatever it’s called)

The first junipers are a year old now. Maybe find one with higher mileage for a bigger discount. I'd work out how many miles I would put on and buy one where I'd get to the cut off mileage by the warranty cut off in 8 years. I test drove the Y and didn't like it. I would have wanted the Juniper for sure. But it's personal, if you're ok with it and want to save the money, go for it. Since the launch version included FSD, you should be able to find one easily used, that is if people are willing to part with them. That's what I'd go for.

yeah, it depends on your driving habits I use it for short-range only so I don't care about my total capacity if you're willing to pay an extra $5k to $10k to get 30 extra miles on a full charge, all power to you

I would never buy a new Y again now that Autopilot is gone…

Bullshit

Yeah, that's why I say it's all over the board. There have been some short term market gyrations with the end of the federal rebate. That has led to increased demand for the newer used Ys. So, yes, in some instances prices are higher today but I don't see them going up from here. There are a mountain of used Y that will be entering the market with HW4 that will likely prevent any future value increase barring any macro inflation causing event. I think anyone serious about buying a used Y, especially with HW4, should be patient and wait until they find a decent price. I've been seeing some '24 and '25 Ys priced near or at $40k and that's kind of ludicrous. Heck, I've even considered getting rid of my Juniper RWD I bought in June because I'm curious if I could dump it without a loss (I paid $37,500 new with rebate).

The better buy is largely going to depend on features, miles, and price. I actually prefer the exterior styling of the pre-Juniper model, but I like the interior of the Juniper.

I think if someone needs a car asap, go with used. Or save up for a brand new one or wait for good incentives for new one.

If you're buying a Tesla I assume you are interested in self driving. If that's the case do not buy an older model Y. The hardware upgrades to the car make a huge difference in self driving and will continue to. It's also quieter and better in most meaningful areas that matter for a car.

I was looking heavily to buy soon, but now may wait a while and just get a used one since after next weekend won’t be able to purchase FSD. I think driving your own car without FSD is eventually going away, but I still like driving so a HW3 car would probably be ok for me especially if it comes with auto steer still and or previously purchased FSD.

I don't care if you believe me but it's true if you count the $4k I got back from my state. I exaggerated the miles a bit, it had 14k. I bought a 23 MYP in October 24. The price was $33k, used from Tesla. I got 4k back, so I paid $29k. That's around half what the original owner paid just over a year before, $59k+TTL.

I think the Juniper is just a much better car TBH

> There are a mountain of used Y that will be entering the market *Sooooo* many leases ending over the next couple years, and soon they'll all be HW4, too.

Small private dealership that I bought mine from held the car for me while they drained the battery below 20% and performed a health test, with the caveat that I could back out if it tested under 90% ('23 bought in Oct).

I went used and bought a '23 MYLR in October w/ 16k miles for $31k. HW3 because I really don't care about FSD and HW4 cost more. Figured that if I decide later that I really like/want FSD it'll be an excuse to upgrade. I'd rather spend the extra money on even better suspension (aftermarket) than the Juniper, forged wheels, audio upgrades, etc.

I’d just get a juniper honestly

It’s still around im pretty sure it’s just called auto steer they had to change it because some jerk in California sued them

Autosteer is removed.

Used, just smarter in reality.

The 2026 are still holding their value. I need them to drop under 40k but who knows when that will be.

I'm hoping we can see them under 40k this year.

I think you’ll love either, but if you’re going to keep it for a while, might be better off with the Juniper.. IMHO..

The HW3 used model Ys are quite inexpensive. HW4 immediately adds few thousands. This is very obvious when you compare 2023 HW3 and HW4 cars with the same milage. That said, I just went for low milage 2023 HW4. It is less than 2/3 of the price for the new and still has about two years of warranty (the original remaining warranty plus one year when you buy from Tesla used in inventory).

if you can buy a used in full, do that

New with fsd

No it’s not. It’s just in a different package.

Get a new one. It’s the best

If you have to ask, legacy would be a better buy.

How much did you end up paying for a 2023 HW4?

I am torn right now on buying a '23 MY. Right now, ive found a few HW4 that are asking around 28k. Like you mention, most right now are HW3... If i wait until around the summer time, do you think the prices for '23 HW4 drop to around 25k?

$34900 + $1000 shipping, 26k miles. LR AWD with 19 wheels.

Not necessarily, you might just get more choices available. You might also get a lower mileage units for about the same money.

HW4 is a gamechanger if you use FSD which is only for late 2023 models and later if going used. I just got a new 2026 MY AWD last August and the improvements, especially with the suspension and ride quality and quietness are very noticeable. I also much prefer the new styling. Used APR being 7% or more and resell value being less can actually make the competitively priced newer models be a better financial decision if financing. People often don’t factor in the newer model Will also be worth significantly more when you go to sell it and the warranty period is much longer. All are great cars at the end of the day so just get the best you can afford within your budget.

There are plenty used Juniper model wise that arranging from 40,000 to 45,000 all the 2023 to 2025 model wise arranging from 25,000 to around 38,000 depending on the mileage and if it’s a performance or not