Bought my used 2023 standard range awd model y at 68k miles, hit 70k and now it already needs battery replacement. 2k miles was not enough to build confidence. Is this a special case of being unlucky or par for the course?
I wonder if the previous owner noticed something and sold it for that reason
The battery should be covered under warranty no?
The replacement would be under warranty anyway tho so it would be no trouble for them to just go in. Range was fine and everything seemed normal up until the alert
Isn’t it eight years?
It is but it seems so early for a replacement. Maybe just an unlucky case
Actually lucky in this case as you will get a better battery than the current that will last longer.
This is a good thing. Better to replace it now under warranty than to have an issue later. No cost to you
This is very unusual for any EV. Even for ones with known battery issues, the failure rate is still really low. Model threes don’t have known battery issues so yours must be an outlier. It is good that the software caught it and that the replacement will be covered under warranty.
That’s what usually happens. Remaining capacity isn’t a health bar, and a Tesla battery with 94% capacity can fail tomorrow due to a voltage imbalance in one module.
8 yrs / 100k miles. May only get a refurb pack at 70%+ SOH tho.
This happens way more often than Tesla stans like to admit.
20,000+ miles per year is somewhat stressful on a pack, 80 miles/day 5 days/week, so +20kWh charging every day. I do 80 miles/week on my Model Y, not counting roadtrips. Home charging is at 4kW, too
Who said Model 3 doesn't have battery issues? I just had the same error last week and got it replaced with a refurbished battery. Stay away from fucking Tesla. It is piece of shit.,
and tesla doesn't replace their batteries in a modular way. it's all or nothing which is really an environmental disaster. Under warranty, they'll give you some other used battery to replace yours. And it might still be a hassle.
Could be loose or corroded connections. Was the car from an area of salt water? May not be cell failure. But knowing Tesla, it wouldn't surprise me if it was. I find it odd that it happened just after you purchased it. Id have Tesla pull a report of how often the warning was shown. Then based on that have a lawyer contact the seller if it happened before you purchased it. There may be local laws about not advising you of a known condition. A lawyer will know. Gone are the days of passing a used car down to a child, if its an EC, because by time you are ready to pass it on, there is an expensive battery to replace.
May as well replace it while there's still a company to do it.
True. You usually get a reman, not a new battery.
Unfortunately they give refurbished batteries as replacements.
My guess is that it is the BMS- Battery Management System. Mine failed at \~150k. $1700 to fix. Might be under warranty for you, but I doubt it is a full battery replacement. The previous owner likely did not know. I don't think this warning goes away once it comes up. I'd take it in pronto and get confirmation.
Modern ICE cars aren't much better. Every minor problem requires a DRM-locked dealer diagnostic or calibration, turning a rock hitting a headlight or radar sensor into a $3200 repair.
Failure rates are way higher than anyone like to admit. I learned my lessons and would under no circumstances own an EV out of battery warranty.
Given the devaluing price of the cars, wouldn't it make more sense just to buy a new to you "junker".
I came from a 2001 manual Honda civic so I think I understand your logic but give me an example of your idea of a “new to me junker” that would replace this car
There's a chance of that, but just a chance. They will give you a Remanufactured battery pack and do a cursory check of modules for obvious problems, then "try" to give you same or better range as before. If they are out of stock on those, then you might get a brand new battery, but it's kinda rare. If you end up with a Remanufactured battery pack, That means one of the modules, or a fuse, or the BMS or something had a horrible issue that had to be fixed. Now because of that, there's a chance your Remanufactured pack will have mixing and matching of battery modules of different ages, which could provide worse long term performance compared to non-mixed modules. Those "good" modules in your reman pack were "good modules" but they were taken out of "bad" packs where there might have been trouble with other cells in other modules in the "bad" pack. Now at the time the remanufacturing department checks things out, the modules would seem problem-free to them, but for many kinds of cell problems they are undetectable for a while, then pop up months or years later. So you never know if future problems might be just on the horizon. Also, their definition of "good" has gone through a lot of revisions to save on cost, for example, there could be a handful of cells that literally already blew their wirebond fuses in your Remanufactured pack, which is rare but happens. but if the range on the remaining cells is "close enough" it could pass without a lot of scrutiny on why those other cells were blowing fuses. So you could get lucky, and get a reman pack that outlasts the car, that certainly happens, or you might get a brand new pack... that's possible, or you might just get one reman pack failing after the other after the other. it's really a crapshoot
To me, this kinda feels like a good thing. You're going to be getting a new battery that you weren't expecting, and it's covered by the warranty.
Note: They don't replace modules on your CAR. The battery itself is replaced in a modular way, or there wouldn't be remans. It's just not something your local service center or mobile tech can do.
But it comes with free Frogurt!
Getting a a 2001 manual Honda civic today.
it's never a brand new battery.
Except if it’s a non-Tesla EV.
Yes I imagine a real car company would be different.
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