Part 2: Tesla Model Y: Worst decision in my life... Even more then my old BOAT

I wish I had $150k to just piss away on things like this. 20 Toyotas! I've had only 7 cars in my life, and have been driving for over 45 years!

Then your old boat what?

It's amazing how many bars Tesla manages to raise... None of them are *good* bars to raise, mind you, but... they're sure raising 'em! Boats were the bar for bad mid-life crisis investments, congrats Tesla for making boats the more sound financial mistake!! Happily, boats are also far more enjoyable cash sinks, too!!

I think people were misled thinking they were saving the environment. Not my more or less true for a tesla vs any other ev. And on whole I don’t think pure EVs deliver in that promise when you consider material resources use, precious metals and lack of recycling the battery

I didn't expect it to go into boat territory so fast

Video kinda AI slopp tho

I can't just let this slide, these big oil talking point has been debunked. There is absolutely a benefit to producing the energy in a central location as opposed to in each individual ICE vehicle. The battery materials are 99% recyclable and their are a growing list of companies doing just that. Their lack of complexity reduces the environmental costs of production. We literally just invaded another country cause some idiot thinks it will bring down the cost of gasoline. Seriously, piss off with your BS.

Ok here is a cleaned up statement. EVs trade local emissions and oil dependence for upstream mining, manufacturing emissions, and grid dependence — often with a net benefit, but not always.” And maybe learn how to have a polite discussion or educated debate and sharing of opinions rather than being an uneducated and crass caveman tough guy.

My energy is produced on my roof.

Anyone who tells you a boat is an investment is either dumb or lying

Why are you crying. You bought a car during the Covid shortage when prices were 10 to 20k over msrp.

Did the Tesla ever report accurate range? Friend's model Y always overreported range on every trip we went together.

I can see why you sparked him off though - some points you make are just demonstrably false, so repeating them seems deliberate or ignorant.

Old info I had

Every guy that's trying to convince their significant other they should buy a boat.

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The range gets more accurate the closer it gets to zero. This was a Musk demand to create an algorithm to fudge the range without people ending up stranded. https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-ev-lying-range-much-worse-elon-musk

I refer to my 3P as the worst car decision I have ever made, and I have made some really bad moves when it comes to cars.

What are the two best days in a boat owner’s life?

Tesla is infamous for overrated range figures. Almost every independent YTer that isn't financially tied to Tesla (e.g. have TSLA shares and/or share referral codes) reports the same findings. My Audi and Cadillac EVs both outperform their official range figures, as does Ford, VW, Nissan, Hyundai, Mercedes, BMW etc. The only brands that are iffy are Polestar and Rivian, which while not underperforming usually meets or just falls a few miles slightly off their official figures. Tesla? Oh boy: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-batteries-range/

The day they bought it and the day they sold it.

No sympathy for anyone spending $75K on a model Y when a gently used Telluride in top trim can be had for $40K and is better in every single way, including cheaper insurance cost that would offset the gas price

The day it sank

No suspension wear?

Ooh, even better, you can claim insurance without spending over a year trying to find a buyer.

It’s like the olden Ah counters. Whoops didn’t realize voltage drops

Me too. Strange.

Entry price of wakeboard boats went from $40K in 2000 to well over $100K in 2025. After 25 years, mine only lost 50%. So while not appreciating, they definitely had a good couple of decades..

The issue is the cost to maintain a wakeboard boat... I have some friends who had them and they were constantly having issues with either the ballast system not working (sometimes not pumping the water out of them) and a bunch of engine issues since Wakeboard boats often put way to much straight on the engines.

It's a hole in the water that you pour money into.

Wow neither did I.

On the other hand people over here are raving about the new VW ID.7, not that I can or would afford that car, but VW seems to have made a ton of things right with this one. Not everything there are still minor complaints though about smaller stuff! But what struck me most was, that a comment like "The driving assisstant is actually helping me instead of trying to kill me like my old Tesla did"

You can get a VW ID.7 for less money and it still is by miles the better car in every aspect except for having an insane drug addict at the helm!

I dunno about that, VM hasnt done anything right in the 40 years I have been a car enthusiast. The best they have been known for is being a car that you have to throw away in about 5 years.

I wouldnt touch a Hyundai with YOUR junk. WE traded the Tesla in for a new Luxus NX 450h+ Plug in Hybrid thats still been getting my wife 100 mpg and we never have to worry about stopping at chargers. Besides the fact that its 10000x better then a Tesla and 100X better then a Hyundai.

OP managed to find both the worst time to buy it after Tesla had massively boosted prices during the post-pandemic parts/vehicle supply shortages (and Tesla boosting influencers in the youtube recommendations algorithms) and the worst time to sell it given that used MYP prices are still sitting at $25k (in the US, OP is Canadian), maybe on account of the refreshed MYP MSRP seeing a $6k price hike since OP sold theirs. I wouldn't be surprised if they traded in their car, making the situation even worse. I would say that now that the US tax credit is gone, used MYP prices may have held up a bit better since the BBB's passing, but OP's in Canada, so not sure exactly if that's had any influence on used vehicle prices there. As to OP only getting 50% SOC from 60 miles of driving (vehicle is rated at around 300 miles of range) that's about 40% of the claimed range; I have to imagine that this is the range during winter when they sold it, likely during rain / snowy weather, probably driving around 80 mph on the 60 mile commute, and I imagine OP has snow tires on it since the summer tires it comes with would be dangerous in the winter. It's also feasible that OP wasn't plugging the car in at night or pre-conditioning the vehicle and the battery was cold at the start of the commute. This can eat electricity as it tries to heat the battery; albeit the heat pump should have helped there; but would have lost efficiency the colder it got. Still, 60% range drop off in winter, if accurate, is surprising. Regarding insurance... I mean I'm pretty sure that it was well known in late 2022 that Teslas were seeing higher insurance rates. Making it worse, the MYP is considered a performance vehicle that's subject to higher insurance rates. I'm glad OP got out of their swasticar, but yeesh, this was just bad decision after bad decision. Sounds like OP has no trouble affording it though, which is ironic. If one doesn't care about money, then why does one complain about bad financial decisions that cost them money?

>I wouldnt touch a Hyundai with YOUR junk.  Melba? that you?

I haven't followed their technology, but their reputation for quality after the days of the old air-cooled Beetle has not been good.

I had a Telluride and it was a great car other than the fact that was hard on gas

Yea Lexus is a great choice if you want boring interiors and old people style . Congrats on your nx450h that I’m sure you overpaid for

\^\^\^ Thats some serious cult like rationalization/assumption there... holy... welcome to reddit.

Where did I assume, outside of how you were managing to only get 40% of the claimed range? Are you suggesting battery degradation was the cause?

As my friend with a boat used to say, it is better to have a friend with a boat than it is owning a boat

Im sure continued dialog with you would result in a change of reason, right?

It’s amazing. Of course it is the buyer’s problem.

I had a deiselgate "sportwagon" and I thought the quality was pretty good. Not many things went wrong, although regular maintenance was sometimes expensive (like to clean the lubricant out of the transmission). Not as good as the Honda I have now, but not bad.

Or brakes?

? I pay $150/mo for my 2023 Model Y Tesla insurance. Not great, not terrible, about what SF quoted me 2 years ago. In 30,000 miles I've done one tire rotation and bought a bottle of washer fluid concentrate to replace that. No complaints, really. Feels good to have paid $40k OTD for a car with similar performance of an S5.

yuppo, I got my 2023 MY AWD new at model year end for $6000 off list which was already $16,000 under 2022 list prices.

30,000 miles in my two years old Model Y AWD. No complaints, yet. Phenomenal to finally get a 4-sec class car I've always dreamed about for $40k OTD, that's ~$16,500 in 1990 money, half the cost of e.g. the 3000 GT-VR4 then.

cold does kill range, yes, hell, even cold air gives more air resistance.

it's all facts. I was in the market for Teslas 2022-23 and passed on the 2022 prices since they were just so out of whack and FOMOd all to hell. I looked at the MYP but got a SF quote and saw it was way too much to insure, so in late 2023 I settled on a Model Y AWD, with list price $16,000 under the 2022 pricing plus another $6000 off that. Plus the 2023s had $7500 off courtesy the Democrats so the car was like half the cost of the 2022s on an OTD basis. I did OK.

Unless I'm mistake, the range drop of winter driving on the highway is estimated at around 40%. OP experienced a 60% drop.

also depends how fast you go. 80mph will take that next 20%

True, that's why I suggested that in my above comment. ;)

Been driving one for 5y and at the beginning it was rather optimistic but then it gets used to your driving style and becomes extremely accurate, especially on long roadtrips.

Sorry, but I disagree. A Kia? Really? I'd rather buy a 2004 BMW X5 than a Telluride since it'll be more reliable.

Complaining like a grumpy old man... It's an EV, it will lose range in cold weather. I've no clue what you've done to break it, but I'm sure it wasn't on its own. And it lost value because it was bought and sold at the wrong time.

Get a cybertruck. Heard they got a few to spare [https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1qbwusj/teslas\_cybertruck\_is\_falling\_far\_short\_of\_elon/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/1qbwusj/teslas_cybertruck_is_falling_far_short_of_elon/)

Tesla will have a lot of one time customers

I'd switch too but god damn $75K for one car is insane

yeah you dont want to own your own boat, you want to have a friend that has a boat

Me as well, honestly, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize that the interior quality is dogshit, that elon is a n\*zi and that FSD is a pipe dream that will never materialize into anything meaningful. wasnt happy that I had to buy bumper stickers early last year when he did that fucking salute

bro that thing just fuckin looks corny, lets be honest

a car that is $75K should always be better then a $45K model y though, no? its not really a flex to be better for like a 60% price increase

I mean OP was driving a tesla in canada, not really sure his concerns about range can be taken seriously given how cold it is over there.

yeah this dude is definitely coping. I saw my model 3 that I paid $40K for back in december 2020 reach a high of like $62-65,000 in late 2021/early 2022 when gas prices spiked because of russian ukraine war, I could have sold it for a massive profit and bought a beater, but I ended up buying another tesla at the absolute worst time right before massive price cuts in late 2022 for reasons I won't discuss here, but I paid like $50,000 for the car at the time which is hilarious now given its a standard range model 3. I could've bought that car like 6 months later for $10K+ less with the ev credit and prices where they were. OP prob bought the model Y around the same time as I recall they were 60k+ at the time.

I remember seeing the pretty Model 3 images on the Tesla site and thinking the prices weren't THAT bad LOL. "I can afford it" is a helluva drug...

Every time I see a Tesla on the road I think to myself "there's someone who makes a lot of bad life choices". That goes double for every time I see a DumpsterTruck.

I’ve had all three days. And you left out “gave it away to charity”