bikesnotbombs
2026-01-06 15:21
we know from available courtroom testimony that they've faked many demos, why would this be any different? also, why just the one, you'd think if they could reliably do it, it would be more cost effective and 'cool' to do so.
all just a grift to distract from the actual shitshow last year was for them and keep the stock propped long enough to tie access to the spacex ipo to owning tesla shares
Bendy_McBendyThumb
2026-01-06 15:23
There’s an extra point I’d like to add, if I may.
Of all the predictions Elon Musk has made regarding FSD, there’s only one that’s been achieved and on time. That’s less than 3% fulfilment (1 out of 34).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk
StinkPickle4000
2026-01-06 15:43
Everyone knows this! When does bubble pop?!
Retox86
2026-01-06 15:48
Well it have achieved its main purpose, hyping the market cap of Tesla. They dont need to solve it, just make people believe they will do it.
TryIsntGoodEnough
2026-01-06 16:28
I have a friend who has the feature that the Tesla will drive itself from its parked location to you to pick you up... Holy hell was it slow as dirt, we could have walked from where we were to the Tesla and back multiple times by the time it finally navigated his driveway
Confident-Sector2660
2026-01-06 16:45
that feature caps out at 6mph
6mph is the fastest it can go for a sueprvised product. Otherwise you can't supervised it and can't prevent an accident
Confident-Sector2660
2026-01-06 16:47
They did not remote operate the tesla during delivery. It was the same car that came off the production line. Tesla FSD is safe enough to make a drive like that in isolation with no issues.
There would be intersections with poor visibility or high speed cross traffic that would cause issues. There would also be the issue of the car not driving with the bumper camera which is an issue at scale. Not for singular drives
No-Share1561
2026-01-06 17:09
Bubbles can last as long as idiots exist.
Spillz-2011
2026-01-06 17:15
So I think fsd is good enough that if you use the right route and check it before hand you have a good chance of success. It’ll do dumb stuff but they overfit on routes elon and important influencers and that makes success more likely in those areas while other places suffer.
I don’t think it would be hard for them to be 99% confident they could have a one off delivery thats a success. Similarly they can have one off trips in robotaxi that they are confident will work that elon can take to show that they have full autonomy by end of 2025.
So fake is maybe too strong. FSD probably managed the delivery on its own but it’s not something they can do reliably so they don’t.
BrainwashedHuman
2026-01-06 17:36
The problem is that since it can’t do the 1% then they need a safety driver. Which defeats the whole purpose according to the people hyping that video.
Munkadunk667
2026-01-06 18:17
It's funny you think the Elon shills can see reason.
J_M
2026-01-06 18:50
Musk = PT Barnum 2.0
Spillz-2011
2026-01-06 18:58
That depends on the product. The product is the stock not FSD. If you can show success one time stock goes up.
Quercus_
2026-01-06 19:08
That one-off publicity stunt delivery was over a route that had been highly validated with multiple tests before they did it.
And I will guarantee you that in the follow car that was filming it, there was a safety engineer with their finger on a stop button.
Current reporting is that they're running about six cars at a time, actually operating in their test area in Tesla, with a safety driver in the right seat, able to stop the car, and they've still had about six fender bender accidents in 6 months. That's one accident per car for 6 months.
The whole thing smells like marketing stunts, not engineering tests, while they desperately try to figure out how to make it work.
WCWRingMatSound
2026-01-06 19:33
There’s also the legal problem. Driverless cars in a parking lot is already a question mark, but public highways / interstates is definitely something that needs to be discussed in a public space.
[deleted]
2026-01-06 22:20
I saw the list before. The robotaxi is still red.
To quote the boss of Waymo, "if you need a license to drive, it's not autonomous"\^\^
[deleted]
2026-01-06 22:27
\*All demos.
I have yet to see 1 demonstration that isn't faked by either tampering/cutting or making claims without showing anything to back them up.
The Optimus "watering plants in the office" video was cut together from 20 different attempts.
I could have faked that one better in an afternoon.
And don't get me started on SolarShingles (which he was found NOT GUILTY by a corrupt judge).
but yea...
Faking 1 demo is enough for NEWS to pick up on it. The average idiot doesn't understand follow-ups.
Elon is front-running the narrative.
[deleted]
2026-01-06 22:28
When does the sun go out?
ArQ7777
2026-01-06 23:26
Elon tested it then dropped it. No big deal. There are more ways to make money.
ahmadr2
2026-01-07 06:38
You will change your mind if you try the amazing AI4 FSD version 14.2.2.2.2.2.1.13
Retox86
2026-01-07 10:27
But they did obviously remote supervise it, so in my opinion they could aswell had a safety driver in it, no difference.
I wouldnt say its safe enough to do a drive like that with no issue, more like it can manage to do it 99 out of 100 times without an incident in good weather and traffic conditions. And Im confident that if you sent them away unsupervised they would cause a crash eventually, just a matter of time.
nice1bruvz
2026-01-07 12:39
What where’s that shitty racist AI Musk put a ring on surely that can drive cos it sucks at everything else
nice1bruvz
2026-01-07 12:40
5 to 7 billion years. You’re welcome.
jyn573064
2026-01-10 03:11
I wish you are right as how much you are passionate about it
[deleted]
2026-01-10 14:29
He just talked about robots being too surgeons
My guess about medical scams is spot on.
Not hard to do if your adversary is a bumbling idiot
UnlessRoundIsFunny
2026-01-11 18:21
But this is just part of their genius and nimbleness! See, too many of the FSD deliveries were crashing on their way to customers, and *some* customers wouldn't accept delivery.
Not the *real* fans, but...nonbelievers.